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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:41:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:47:33 PM EDT
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Where is your pain? Tylenol is weak for back pain. Advil messed up my digestive system, now I do nicely with Robaxin and Tramadol, but you need a prescription for them.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:13:10 AM EDT
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Where is your pain? Tylenol is weak for back pain. Advil messed up my digestive system, now I do nicely with Robaxin and Tramadol, but you need a prescription for them. I'm speaking general purpose type stuff. Could be headache, could be back, and whatever else. Medical conditions prevent me from using NSAIDs |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:22:21 AM EDT
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I'm speaking general purpose type stuff. Could be headache, could be back, and whatever else. Medical conditions prevent me from using NSAIDs Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is your pain? Tylenol is weak for back pain. Advil messed up my digestive system, now I do nicely with Robaxin and Tramadol, but you need a prescription for them. I'm speaking general purpose type stuff. Could be headache, could be back, and whatever else. Medical conditions prevent me from using NSAIDs Tylenol is the only non NSAID analgesic I know of. Go to the doc and get some real meds if nothing OTC helps. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:42:51 AM EDT
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Not sure what conditions you have but celecoxib might be an option.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:54:20 AM EDT
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Not sure what conditions you have but celecoxib might be an option. That's a nsaid Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:54:37 AM EDT
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Tylenol isn't "risky" unless your liver is shit or you drown yourself in liquor in order to swallow it. Robaxin or oxy maybe? Why no NSAIDs op?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:01:48 AM EDT
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So you need a non non steroidal anti inflammatory drug? Wouldn't that by definition be a steroid of some sort?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:14:23 AM EDT
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edit: regarding celecoxib
Yes but its a selective COX2 inhibitor vs the usual non selective ones. Still can get GI bleeding but less anti platelet. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:18:14 AM EDT
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:42:10 AM EDT
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID. My googling leads me to believe that the only non-NSAID's aside from acetaminophen are opioids. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:46:33 AM EDT
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:16:54 AM EDT
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Propyphyl.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:58:24 AM EDT
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Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. Just an anecdote about Tramadol - I can't sleep worth a damn when I take it. It makes me tired, but I can't actually sleep when I take it, maybe 20-30 minutes at a time and then up for 3 hours. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:32:56 AM EDT
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I've stopped taking tylenol for the most part. The dosage recommendations have been changed a few times and acetaminophen has been linked to many ailments any accidental over doses. One of my mother in law's co-workers died from cirrosis of the liver, she never drank but took two-four tylenol's a day for many years. (anecdotal I know)
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:36:55 AM EDT
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Serrapeptase. It's a lifesaver look it up
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:41:14 AM EDT
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I'm restricted to non-NSAID pain relievers but concerned about acetaminophen. Is there something that's a bit less risky, can be taken after you've had alcohol, etc? I was in a similar spot recently with a knee reconstruction. Tylenol doesn't do shit for pain with me, so I got oxy. Only took that for the first two weeks post ok, but two months out I'munis taking tramadol as needed. Not sure if it's anysafer than oxy, but it seems to help with the pain. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 4:42:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aspirin is an NSAID. My googling leads me to believe that the only non-NSAID's aside from acetaminophen are opioids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID. My googling leads me to believe that the only non-NSAID's aside from acetaminophen are opioids. Yep..oxy and hydro for me. I take aspirin for head aches though. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 4:58:28 AM EDT
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Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. Robaxin has a very low rate of drowsiness. Roughly the same as the placebo in clinical trials. Plus it sucks for non-muscular pain. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 10:55:39 AM EDT
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Only time I take Tylenol is for fevers, works faster than anything else OTC. Painwise, in the words of Dalton, " Pain don't hurt."
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:37:14 AM EDT
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I've stopped taking tylenol for the most part. The dosage recommendations have been changed a few times and acetaminophen has been linked to many ailments any accidental over doses. One of my mother in law's co-workers died from cirrosis of the liver, she never drank but took two-four tylenol's a day for many years. (anecdotal I know) I take it sparingly. Only when the pain is getting really obnoxious and preventing me from doing something. But yeah, that's the kind of thing I worry about. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:38:03 AM EDT
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Move to Colorado.....
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:39:18 AM EDT
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Tylenol isn't "risky" unless your liver is shit or you drown yourself in liquor in order to swallow it. Robaxin or oxy maybe? Why no NSAIDs op? 
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:41:03 AM EDT
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Aspirin is an NSAID. My googling leads me to believe that the only non-NSAID's aside from acetaminophen are opioids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID. My googling leads me to believe that the only non-NSAID's aside from acetaminophen are opioids. Or steroids. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:52:14 AM EDT
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I'm restricted to non-NSAID pain relievers but concerned about acetaminophen. Is there something that's a bit less risky, can be taken after you've had alcohol, etc? I have been taking Goody's Headache Powder ( acetaminophen ) for about ten years now, I take nowhere near the maximum daily dose, but use it once weekly for my tension headaches, so far the liver and kidneys are doing well. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 11:58:53 AM EDT
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If your issue is pain associated with inflammation or injury, check out MSM (methylsulfonylmethane). It is a natural anti-inflammatory, safe for use with other medications, non-toxic, and extremely low risk of any sort of side effect.
It helps flush toxins out of your body on a cellular level, and allows better oxygen and nutrient delivery to damaged tissues. You will see it often in combination with joint nutrients such as glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate. I've taken MSM for a decade for bad knees and various other issues. Take 3,000-4,000 mg 2x or 3x daily. Morning, mid-day, and as close to bedtime as you can. It may not completely eliminate your pain, but it will certainly help. You can take whatever other pain killers you want to in combination with it if necessary. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:07:30 PM EDT
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I'm restricted to non-NSAID pain relievers but concerned about acetaminophen. Is there something that's a bit less risky, can be taken after you've had alcohol, etc? I think the most important question is what is causing you to be restricted from NSAIDs? If its for the increase in BP, heart failure, or fluid retention I would be more concerned with not drinking alcohol to begin with as opposed to the 6-7 tylenol a day you would need to be on to be at the "max" daily dose of APAP for your minor aches/pains |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:30:03 PM EDT
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I think the most important question is what is causing you to be restricted from NSAIDs? If its for the increase in BP, heart failure, or fluid retention I would be more concerned with not drinking alcohol to begin with as opposed to the 6-7 tylenol a day you would need to be on to be at the "max" daily dose of APAP for your minor aches/pains Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm restricted to non-NSAID pain relievers but concerned about acetaminophen. Is there something that's a bit less risky, can be taken after you've had alcohol, etc? I think the most important question is what is causing you to be restricted from NSAIDs? If its for the increase in BP, heart failure, or fluid retention I would be more concerned with not drinking alcohol to begin with as opposed to the 6-7 tylenol a day you would need to be on to be at the "max" daily dose of APAP for your minor aches/pains Ulcerative Colitis, so GI bleeding is the problem. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:42:12 PM EDT
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:45:48 PM EDT
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I've stopped taking tylenol for the most part. The dosage recommendations have been changed a few times and acetaminophen has been linked to many ailments any accidental over doses. One of my mother in law's co-workers died from cirrosis of the liver, she never drank but took two-four tylenol's a day for many years. (anecdotal I know) Ruh roh... As a long-time sufferer of back and joint pain... I'm probably screwed then.  
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:47:16 PM EDT
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition. Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:48:12 PM EDT
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I take a couple of tumeric pills in the morning, my shoulders hurt when I dont and dont hurt when I do.
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:49:59 PM EDT
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Is medical marijuana legal in ND?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:52:13 PM EDT
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Is medical marijuana legal in ND? Irrelevant. My job wouldn't allow that or opiates. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:56:00 PM EDT
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Is ibuprofen NSAID?
I just got a prescription for Duexis. It's a high dose of ibuprofen mixed with famotidine. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:59:44 PM EDT
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Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition. Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Yeah, but they have a version of Tylenol thats legal for over the counter sale in most countries. It has a small amt of opiate in it, maybe something like 15% of the pain reliever. I think the ones you named have a lot higher percent. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:07:48 PM EDT
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Have you tried DMSO.... I have heard people who swear by it.......
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:11:17 PM EDT
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What about this stuff:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_salicylate -it was in the old "Doan's Back Ache Pills" |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:12:26 PM EDT
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Naproxen (Aleve)
celecoxib (Celebrex) |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:13:03 PM EDT
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Naproxen (Aleve) celecoxib (Celebrex) nsaids |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:13:48 PM EDT
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What about this stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_salicylate -it was in the old "Doan's Back Ache Pills" nsaid |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:13:48 PM EDT
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Yeah, but they have a version of Tylenol thats legal for over the counter sale in most countries. It has a small amt of opiate in it, maybe something like 15% of the pain reliever. I think the ones you named have a lot higher percent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition. Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Yeah, but they have a version of Tylenol thats legal for over the counter sale in most countries. It has a small amt of opiate in it, maybe something like 15% of the pain reliever. I think the ones you named have a lot higher percent. Good point. I had some of that stuff from Canada years ago. It was pretty weak. The WoD is kicking ass and taking names though. Everyone in America enjoys unprecedented liberty, and addiction-free and pain-free status. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:17:01 PM EDT
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Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition. Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Percoset is the brand name of oxycodone combined with acetaminophen |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:17:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nsaids Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Naproxen (Aleve) celecoxib (Celebrex) nsaids Whoops, missed the 'non'. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:21:33 PM EDT
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NSAID....Non Steroidal Anti Inflammatory.
Tylenol is a Pain reliever. Ibuprofen and naproxen (Motrin/Advil and Aleve) are NSAIDs and are available over the counter. A 'Non-NSAID'...isn't real specific. Viagra is not an NSAID....nor is Rohypnol. You're looking for a pain reliever that's not an NSAID (i.e...an non-NSAID pain reliever)? Depends on the pain. Muscle Relaxants. Anti-Depressants (Cymbalta). Anti-Siezure meds (Lyrica). Etc. can all have some effect on various types of pain (but not work for all of them). Generally as an over the counter, you're limited to Aspirin (the original NSAID), Tylenol (Pain Reliever) or Aleve/ibuprofen (also NSAIDs). |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYeah, but they have a version of Tylenol thats legal for over the counter sale in most countries. It has a small amt of opiate in it, maybe something like 15% of the pain reliever. I think the ones you named have a lot higher percent. That would be tylenol-3 with codeine. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:29:17 PM EDT
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Percoset is the brand name of oxycodone combined with acetaminophen Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tylenol with a small amount of an opiate (don't remember which one) is supposed to work very well---they're supposed to synergize with each other--and is legal is much of the world, like up in Canada. You might be able to get a prescription for that with your condition. Hydrocodone and Percocet are both opiates combined with acetemataphine. Percoset is the brand name of oxycodone combined with acetaminophen True. Another one is Endocet. All of it's pretty weak sauce for me at this point. Just dries me out. I've been on 60mg of prednisone this past week. I'm headed for a lumbar fusion before long. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:33:46 PM EDT
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Why do you have to be able to take it after drinking alcohol?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 4:01:14 PM EDT
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Just an anecdote about Tramadol - I can't sleep worth a damn when I take it. It makes me tired, but I can't actually sleep when I take it, maybe 20-30 minutes at a time and then up for 3 hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My standby is Aspirin. I don't think it qualifies as a NSAID, but it works on pain unlike tylenol for me. It's perfectly safe as long as you drink it with enough water since stright pills could be hard on your digestive tract. Remember it's natural (although the stuff in the bottle is synthetically made). It is a blood thinner, umm be careful if you have issues with that. Aspirin is an NSAID Tylenol is the only option OTC, and should be safe and pretty effective in the usual dose. Robaxin is a muscle relaxant and will make you sleepy and affect your ability to drive. Tramadol is now controlled like Oxycodone, hydrocodone. Just an anecdote about Tramadol - I can't sleep worth a damn when I take it. It makes me tired, but I can't actually sleep when I take it, maybe 20-30 minutes at a time and then up for 3 hours. Hate to hear this, take it every day. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 4:45:48 PM EDT
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Tylenol is the only non NSAID analgesic I know of. Go to the doc and get some real meds if nothing OTC helps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is your pain? Tylenol is weak for back pain. Advil messed up my digestive system, now I do nicely with Robaxin and Tramadol, but you need a prescription for them. I'm speaking general purpose type stuff. Could be headache, could be back, and whatever else. Medical conditions prevent me from using NSAIDs Tylenol is the only non NSAID analgesic I know of. Go to the doc and get some real meds if nothing OTC helps. Acetaminophen 325mg....helping my knee/joint pain a lot. See my avatar.  
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