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Posted: 3/18/2016 2:46:50 PM EDT
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 2:47:25 PM EDT
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Spain.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 2:47:30 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War My guess as well |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 2:48:03 PM EDT
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I know jack shit about this war, but after a quick read I find it fascinating that the republicans were the same as our extreme left today; young, stupid, and/or poor. Forget the "extreme left" ; the ordinary American liberal democrat has bee brainwashed by the likes of NPR to idolize the Spanish republicans (Marxists/anarchists) - bringing up only Hemingway' "romantic" involvement while covering up the atrocities those leftist fucks & soviet Marxists inflicted on Spain. And yes - the other side was indeed assisted by Hitler. NPR always mentions that too. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 2:58:12 PM EDT
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you. They were incredibly lucky the fascists won the war. If they hadn't when WWII got rolling it would have finished off what little was left of Spain. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:01:21 PM EDT
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#BLM protests? Lol |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:07:02 PM EDT
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#BLM protests? Lol Trump rallies. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:08:08 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:16:25 PM EDT
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That was my guess. I'd not heard of the SCW Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My first guess is Spanish Civil war. But the dead children make me think it was the Genocide of the Armenians after WWI by the Turks That was my guess. I'd not heard of the SCW The SCW was Spring Traning for the Germans and Russians prior to WWII. Several German aces got their first kills in Spain. TC |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:20:53 PM EDT
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you. The leftists ate their own. The right was under Franco. He wasn't run by the Nazis or fascists. They helped him. He chose to be neutral through WW2, and his government continued up until the 70s. I think this is much like the Allende vs Pinochet thing in Chili. The left controls the narrative so Pinochet was a bloody dictator. Except he wasn't as bloody as the guy they wanted, and he in fact saved his country. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:22:35 PM EDT
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The leftists ate their own. The right was under Franco. He wasn't run by the Nazis or fascists. They helped him. He chose to be neutral through WW2, and his government continued up until the 70s. I think this is much like the Allende vs Pinochet thing in Chili. The left controls the narrative so Pinochet was a bloody dictator. Except he wasn't as bloody as the guy they wanted, and he in fact saved his country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you. The leftists ate their own. The right was under Franco. He wasn't run by the Nazis or fascists. They helped him. He chose to be neutral through WW2, and his government continued up until the 70s. I think this is much like the Allende vs Pinochet thing in Chili. The left controls the narrative so Pinochet was a bloody dictator. Except he wasn't as bloody as the guy they wanted, and he in fact saved his country. More or less, yes. Plus he took a bunch of communists on helicopter rides. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spanish Civil War |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:25:19 PM EDT
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I laughed out loud in Pans Labyrinth when the guy fighting the commies was the big bad villain.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:49:40 PM EDT
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Franco had very close ties to Germany. Germans were free to come and go.
But he was smart enough to know that siding with them in a shooting war was suicide. After the war Franco rounded up the commies and shot them by the thousands. I have a Russian Mosin rifle that was in Spain for that excitement. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 3:55:09 PM EDT
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This. The nun is the clencher. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Spanish Civil War This. The nun is the clencher. Yep, plus the architecture. Those Leftists were burning churches and killing anyone not on their side. I can't call Franco a bad guy, seeing what he ended and prevented from getting much worse. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:02:51 PM EDT
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you. The Nationalists were by no means predominantly fascist, and the Nazis did not run the show. You had those parts of military that opposed the Left (often not based on ideology, but just based on what the Left was doing), you had the Carlists (conservative Catholics who also disagreed with the regal succession before the Republic came into being), other conservative groups, and then the quasi-fascist groups like the Falange. While the Falange was not true Fascism, it didn't matter much in the end as Franco purged the true believers from the leadership, leaving it a hollow shell. Interestingly, the Muslims all sided with the Nationalists, as they felt it was better to fight for the prophet Issa than in the name of atheism. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:11:59 PM EDT
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Spanish, possible Guernica
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:12:45 PM EDT
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http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz5906HiKH1qa3ee7o1_1280.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/f2/a2/0cf2a2624a12479efc3bca276b574112.jpg http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/16/media-16374/large.jpg http://www.artinsociety.com/uploads/9/7/8/7/9787095/4240279_orig.png [added the warning in the title - Paul] Spanish civil war |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:13:45 PM EDT
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Turks cleaning house on Armenians?
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:15:55 PM EDT
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The Catholics had their own military forces, too. They had no love for the commies. Franco was much nicer toward them.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:20:13 PM EDT
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My first guess is Spanish Civil war. But the dead children make me think it was the Genocide of the Armenians after WWI by the Turks The body count is about half what you'd see in the typical Armenian Genocide pictures. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:24:35 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War This. I think the first was taken in Barcelona. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:25:32 PM EDT
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The first couple of photos give it away.
My mother survived the war. Very scary stories from her childhood…the commies dragging the family out of the house looking for guns and a printing press my grandfather had. Never found it, but they slapped him around and shot up the Icons on the exterior of the house……I saw the riddled house in the early '80's. Gramps never fixed it. Priests wore plain clothed for the most part to avoid being murdered. Finding shelter in the faithful's homes. My aunt, her elder sister recalled a Stuka crashed nearby their home, so everyone in the town ran out to help the pilot….one very pissed off German crawled out, refusing help from anyone. My uncle Paco fought as a Loyalist, his brother on the other side. After the war, he found out he and his bro was in two of the same battles. Funny and sad now…the country is pretty much a commie fest now. PS a good movie, for those that hate reading, is There Be Dragons. It's the story of Opus Dei and is an accurate depiction of the war. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:47:06 PM EDT
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Forget the "extreme left" ; the ordinary American liberal democrat has bee brainwashed by the likes of NPR to idolize the Spanish republicans (Marxists/anarchists) - bringing up only Hemingway' "romantic" involvement while covering up the atrocities those leftist fucks & soviet Marxists inflicted on Spain. And yes - the other side was indeed assisted by Hitler. NPR always mentions that too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know jack shit about this war, but after a quick read I find it fascinating that the republicans were the same as our extreme left today; young, stupid, and/or poor. Forget the "extreme left" ; the ordinary American liberal democrat has bee brainwashed by the likes of NPR to idolize the Spanish republicans (Marxists/anarchists) - bringing up only Hemingway' "romantic" involvement while covering up the atrocities those leftist fucks & soviet Marxists inflicted on Spain. And yes - the other side was indeed assisted by Hitler. NPR always mentions that too. You are totally bonkers. I would argue that "the average liberal democrat" knows virtually nothing about the Spanish Civil War. Both sides committed atrocities during that horrible war. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 4:48:40 PM EDT
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I don't know what they are from but that first picture is awesome.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:08:02 PM EDT
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Seriously? There was this iconic photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Soldier Hemingway wrote about it in For Whom the Bell Tolls. Orwell was in it and it caused him to turn against Stalinism. A pretty good movie, IIRC English, was made about it in the '90s. But from the commie perspective, of course. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was my guess. I'd not heard of the SCW Seriously? There was this iconic photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Soldier Hemingway wrote about it in For Whom the Bell Tolls. Orwell was in it and it caused him to turn against Stalinism. A pretty good movie, IIRC English, was made about it in the '90s. But from the commie perspective, of course. I'm an American history buff. I missed out on world history due to going to vocational school. 
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:12:11 PM EDT
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My sister in law is Spanish, and her family was on the Nationalist side. They still don't like Commies.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:15:13 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War My vote |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:18:37 PM EDT
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I had distant relatives fight and die in that conflict on the Nationalist side.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:28:28 PM EDT
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The Spanish Civil War by Hugh Thomas is considered an even handed telling of the history. It is long though. When I read it, I kept a scratchpad of notes just so I could keep track of all the groups and leaders involved. For Whom the Bell Tolls is a good fictional account of the war from the International Brigade perspective by Ernest Hemingway. I've been meaning to learn more about this, any other good books? |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:23:01 PM EDT
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My sister in law is Spanish, and her family was on the Nationalist side. They still don't like Commies. they must be outraged at the changes in that country, especially the removals of anything Franco related, like the statues they've taken down. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:27:00 PM EDT
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I know this was wasn't common knowledge. I don't think the Spanish ever fully recovered, or ever will. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what's the story behind that nun? The Republicans desecrated Catholic graves and pulled the bodies from the caskets. It should also be noted "Republicans" in this case were commies. for those who don't know. I left it on purpose to out the idiots.
I know this was wasn't common knowledge. I don't think the Spanish ever fully recovered, or ever will. Spain never recovered from an unfavorable balance of trade in the 15th Century. 
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:33:11 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War This |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:42:09 PM EDT
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I have a Remington mosin with scw markings. Most likely went there with American volunteers.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:43:25 PM EDT
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I have a Remington mosin with scw markings. Most likely went there with American volunteers. Sitting behind me I have a nice model of a Stuka dive bomber. It went there with German volunteers.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:51:53 PM EDT
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Must've sucked to be in Spain at a time where you had two sides to choose from: The commies run by the Soviets or the fascists run by the Nazis. I mean, what the fuck. Any other choice and both sides would kill you. Some days, you take a side. Other days, "Expend all remaining on my position." |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 7:53:58 PM EDT
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The next American Civil War. Starts late 2016.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:01:05 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:05:36 PM EDT
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The next American Civil War. Starts late 2016. You mean war of liberal aggression. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:11:31 PM EDT
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You mean war of liberal aggression. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The next American Civil War. Starts late 2016. You mean war of liberal aggression. Don't call it that, in the analogy you're using the liberals won. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:14:52 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War Beat. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:15:13 PM EDT
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I respect those who answer "Spanish civil war",
Yet the rifle on the young mans shoulder looks like a Japanese Arisaka" to me. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:18:38 PM EDT
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I respect those who answer "Spanish civil war", Yet the rifle on the young mans shoulder looks like a Japanese Arisaka" to me. Probably a Mexican Arisaka sent to Spain, if that's what it is. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:19:46 PM EDT
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Spanish civil war.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:28:28 PM EDT
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FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS...ERNEST HEMINGWAY
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:36:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz5906HiKH1qa3ee7o1_1280.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/f2/a2/0cf2a2624a12479efc3bca276b574112.jpg http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/16/media-16374/large.jpg http://www.artinsociety.com/uploads/9/7/8/7/9787095/4240279_orig.png [added the warning in the title - Paul] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fko5fYIBJFU |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:36:48 PM EDT
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It was trial run for WWII. Germans and Russians were fighting each other by proxy. The German Condor Legion was legendary. First time airplanes were used for mass civilian bombing. Look up Robert Capa. He was the guy who did the Normandy Invasion photos. Got his start in the Spanish Civil War. was also the first time troops were transported by air to a battle area. In the book "The Dirty Dozen" the main character was veteran on the SCW. It was truly a brutal killing ground.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:40:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I respect those who answer "Spanish civil war", Yet the rifle on the young mans shoulder looks like a Japanese Arisaka" to me. Two strikes... |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:40:58 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War That would be my guess, or maybe somewhere in the balkans/eastern europe during WW 2. Like romania or hungary. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 9:41:32 PM EDT
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Spanish Civil War |
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