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Posted: 3/25/2016 10:54:28 AM EDT
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Awesome ruling.
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Posted: 3/25/2016 10:55:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome ruling. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 10:56:10 AM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car.
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Posted: 3/25/2016 10:57:47 AM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"?
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:00:46 AM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:01:40 AM EDT
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Something like this needs to make it to the top.
Why can my gov employer who is bound to uphold the constitution tell me I can't have the same CCW rights on gov property (locked in car OK) as a Ohio citizen? 
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:02:02 AM EDT
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Good
Here in Florida, it's a Felony for your employer to ASK if you have a gun in your car. 
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:23:01 AM EDT
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Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:31:43 AM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car. This |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:32:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. The contents of the car are generally considered to retain a "bubble" of personal property. Your logical extension is just that... an extension, which doesn't apply. The law is not extended in that way. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:35:21 AM EDT
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But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. If the company offers secure access or its patrolled by a security guard the law does not apply. If it concerns company enough they can take steps. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:36:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. TX law in regards to firearms is that a companies 'premises' are its buildings only and not parking lots or drive ways |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:37:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:38:11 AM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car. What if there is a dead hooker in your trunk? |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:40:00 AM EDT
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:40:37 AM EDT
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Something like this needs to make it to the top. Why can my gov employer who is bound to uphold the constitution tell me I can't have the same CCW rights on gov property (locked in car OK) as a Ohio citizen? God forbid anyone who might drive thru the post office parking lot and drop a letter in the mailbox while they have a firearm in their car. 
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:44:24 AM EDT
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Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation. 
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:46:38 AM EDT
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..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
Exactly. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:48:37 AM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Part of me stopped caring. I just want my side to win. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:49:21 AM EDT
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..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines!        
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:50:44 AM EDT
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Wonder if this includes teachers? Probably not, but good ruling.
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:52:46 AM EDT
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Wonder if this includes teachers? Probably not, but good ruling. Good question. Nolo? |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:55:13 AM EDT
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Good question. Nolo? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder if this includes teachers? Probably not, but good ruling. Good question. Nolo? Same question for a TWIC site? |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:55:52 AM EDT
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Wonder if this includes teachers? Probably not, but good ruling. I thought they could already. I seem to recall one of those school murderer crazies was stopped by a MS teacher that ran to his car to get his own gun and stopped the killer. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 11:58:18 AM EDT
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Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. Not when the firing is a violation of your constitutional rights. Just like they can't fire you for being black or Jewish . |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Unless you work for the federal government.
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:02:36 PM EDT
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I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines!
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:03:33 PM EDT
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Good. Please let this ruling resonate across human resource departments everywhere!
HR best slow their roll when it comes to bogus, PC policy and my personal protection. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:04:55 PM EDT
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The gun laws here are great, but I HATE our courts. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:13:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they could already. I seem to recall one of those school murderer crazies was stopped by a MS teacher that ran to his car to get his own gun and stopped the killer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wonder if this includes teachers? Probably not, but good ruling. I thought they could already. I seem to recall one of those school murderer crazies was stopped by a MS teacher that ran to his car to get his own gun and stopped the killer. He was parked way away from campus to keep w/i the law. IIRC he ran something like a half mile to retrieve his gun and get back to the school. -J |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation. Friday, end-of-day. "Thank you for your service, Mr Smith. Your services are no longer required. This additional check covers your severance pay. Have a good weekend." Over the years, I found that 2 weeks pay solved a lot of 'issues', and arguments. Same as when somebody gave 2 weeks notice, write a check, out the door, NOW. IMHO YMMV But, back on topic, a good decision, but possibly a bad precedent. Camels nose under the tent flap, etc. But whatever is in the parking lot, meh. Around here, the guns in the parking lot is amazing. Show and tell at lunch time. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 12:18:52 PM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car. What if there is a dead hooker in your trunk? She was a call girl... |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:35:31 PM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car. What if there is a dead hooker in your trunk? She was a call girl... No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:38:59 PM EDT
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God forbid anyone who might drive thru the post office parking lot and drop a letter in the mailbox while they have a firearm in their car.
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Something like this needs to make it to the top. Why can my gov employer who is bound to uphold the constitution tell me I can't have the same CCW rights on gov property (locked in car OK) as a Ohio citizen? God forbid anyone who might drive thru the post office parking lot and drop a letter in the mailbox while they have a firearm in their car.
Quite the renegade you are. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want.  |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:44:27 PM EDT
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I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines! RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #Fuckyourcouchwefinallygoodatsomething!!!!!! 
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:45:32 PM EDT
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FPNI!
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:46:18 PM EDT
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Awesome ruling. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:46:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:47:01 PM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? My car, my rules. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:48:54 PM EDT
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Good. It is absolutely no ones business what I have in my car. What if there is a dead hooker in your trunk? She was a call girl... Escort |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:48:57 PM EDT
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Unless you work for the federal government. Or Grand Gulf Nuclear Generating Station. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:51:00 PM EDT
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..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
Yes. Correct. A baker shouldn't have to make a cake that is against their beliefs. But this is GD...critical thinking is bad. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:52:22 PM EDT
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Not when the firing is a violation of your constitutional rights. Just like they can't fire you for being black or Jewish . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. Not when the firing is a violation of your constitutional rights. Just like they can't fire you for being black or Jewish . Your rights only extend as far as the next person. If you are using private property to park your car, the employer can tell you to not have certain items in that parking lot. An employer should be allowed to get rid of employees for any reason..just like they should be able to hire for ANY reason. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:52:28 PM EDT
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RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #Fuckyourcouchwefinallygoodatsomething!!!!!!
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Awesome ruling. Negative ghostrider. It's horrifically bad. In a free country, an employer should be able to fire you for any reason they want. ..including race, creed, color, gender, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.
I'd trade the right to fire me for having a gun if we would wipe out all protected classes. Ain't gonna happen though. So, MS values its Firearm-Americans and we are a semi-protected class. Pay attention, we have more social justice coming down the pipe. We're here and we're strapped, step off or you might get capped! Wolverines! RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #Fuckyourcouchwefinallygoodatsomething!!!!!!
In the last few years we have gotten: Enhanced Endorsement, OC clearly defined, and "Purse Carry." Coming down the pipe are: Permitless carry, Church protection, doing away with suppressor registration, and maybe a smack on some activist judges' peepees about redefining what a court room is. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:53:13 PM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? His car on their property isn't "their house their rules". The car is a legal extension of your home in many states. BTW if you run a business and open it voluntarily to employees and customers, it isn't "your house, your rules" anymore, by law. You are now beholden to fed, state, and Local regs, cannot by law violate certain civil rights of employees and customers, and are subject to legal action if you allow something to happen on your property. It's voluntary. You don't have to allow employees or customers on your property. Good luck turning a profit. Owning the land and structure don't make you a sovereign country of one. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:53:53 PM EDT
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? My car, my rules. Don't park on his private land? Go park on the street. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:55:43 PM EDT
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But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about arfcom's favorite canard of 'Their house, their rules"? Doesn't apply to cars which are considered the owners property. Same way the company can't go through your personal cell phone whenever they want. But the car is parked on their property. A logical extension of that argument would be if its on you personally and they can't search you at work. Since you are your own personal property. Legally, searching someone against their will would leave you in a world of hurt, based on circumstances. Pretty sure my employer has no legal basis to let me go for refusing a cavity search. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:55:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome ruling. |
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Posted: 3/25/2016 2:56:23 PM EDT
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That's awesome. |
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