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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:39:46 PM EDT
PA is good people and those have been OOS for awhile.
Go! http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-advanced-micro-dot-with-push-buttons-and-up-to-50k-hour-battery-life/p/kt-md-ads/ 
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:42:35 PM EDT
[#1]
PA chargin 169.99 for it. Good price imo
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:43:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few.
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:46:53 PM EDT
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I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few. Whoa, when did they ever get that low? Black Friday sales? |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:48:04 PM EDT
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Whoa, when did they ever get that low? Black Friday sales? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few. Whoa, when did they ever get that low? Black Friday sales? Never. The MD-ADS has never been $89 Quoted:
I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few. Wrong product
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:51:51 PM EDT
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Seems to be pretty solid. I put one on a M92 with an Ultimak gas tube mount, no issues yet.
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:54:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Mine is awesome! Maybe it's time for another...
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:54:35 PM EDT
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Sigh.... There went another $350. Thanks a lot.
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:55:19 PM EDT
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Seems to be pretty solid. I put one on a M92 with an Ultimak gas tube mount, no issues yet. The Scorpion needs a RDS on a riser after installing a Zhukov stock. This will fit the bill there nicely. I have a few of the $89 dollar sights and other than the shorter battery life, they're good to go. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:55:38 PM EDT
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Sigh.... There went another $350. Thanks a lot.
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:56:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never. The MD-ADS has never been $89 Wrong product Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few. Whoa, when did they ever get that low? Black Friday sales? Never. The MD-ADS has never been $89 Quoted: I'll Wait until they're $89 again and grab a few. Wrong product I wish I would have bought a few more of the original Microdots when they did that. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:57:21 PM EDT
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I got a brand new HoloSun HS403A for $123.99 shipped. Shitty part was they came on sale a day after I ordered a PA AMD for $152.54 shipped. Needless to say the PA got cancelled.
ETA The PA AMD wasn't ordered at PA. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:58:51 PM EDT
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:59:55 PM EDT
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Yesterday PA was selling the same sight for $119 on EBay. "Lightly used" with a three year warranty. I fent.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141872308817?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:01:10 PM EDT
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Yesterday PA was selling the same sight for $119 on EBay. "Lightly used" with a three year warranty. I fent. http://www.ebay.com/itm/141872308817?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Damn, I would have bought two at that price! |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Yesterday PA was selling the same sight for $119 on EBay. "Lightly used" with a three year warranty. I fent. http://www.ebay.com/itm/141872308817?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Aw what the fuck. I would have jumped on that deal. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:08:16 PM EDT
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They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:10:24 PM EDT
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Damn, I would have bought two at that price! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yesterday PA was selling the same sight for $119 on EBay. "Lightly used" with a three year warranty. I fent. http://www.ebay.com/itm/141872308817?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Damn, I would have bought two at that price! I had three in my basket at one point. 
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:11:02 PM EDT
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I have one. But got it a while ago. I don't think anythings changed though, has it?
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:12:26 PM EDT
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Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro 
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too  )
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:22:34 PM EDT
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ACSS Micro  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygTotally awesome. 
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:32:34 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint?
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:51:58 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? They're tough as shit with incredible battery life, but even Marshall will tell you - if you're using it for duty get the Aimpoint. I use it on my HD rifle and it's been kicking for over a year and a half. Survived some drops at the range. I tend to not drag my rifles behind me on dirt roads or run them over, though
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:59:47 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:01:54 PM EDT
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How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:02:53 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? I have three Aimpoints and three Advanced Micro Dots. Honestly, there's probably no difference to the casual user. The glass on the current MD-ADS is comparable to a T1, but not as good as a T2. Full disclosure, I had one micro dot that was DOA, and replaced immediately by PA. Since then I haven't had one issue with moderately heavy use. My home defense gun wears an Aimpoint, but if PA was all I could afford I wouldn't have any problems running it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:13:06 PM EDT
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Want!
Looking forward to the akou review. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:03:30 AM EDT
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Bump for the day crew.
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:06:11 AM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? No comparison. Fine for a range toy. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:24:53 AM EDT
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love mine
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:38:21 AM EDT
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I have two of these and they're great.
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:38:39 AM EDT
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Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:41:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat rifle is entirely too clean. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:54:41 AM EDT
[#33]
Will a LaRue mount fit this PA and which model to fit it?
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:55:40 AM EDT
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That rifle is entirely too clean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
That rifle is entirely too clean. it was un fired in that picture. new build |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:55:51 AM EDT
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ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygCool!
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:57:08 AM EDT
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The Scorpion needs a RDS on a riser after installing a Zhukov stock. This will fit the bill there nicely. I have a few of the $89 dollar sights and other than the shorter battery life, they're good to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems to be pretty solid. I put one on a M92 with an Ultimak gas tube mount, no issues yet. The Scorpion needs a RDS on a riser after installing a Zhukov stock. This will fit the bill there nicely. I have a few of the $89 dollar sights and other than the shorter battery life, they're good to go. I forgot, I have the advanced micro dot on my Scorpion too. 
It does work very well with it, although I'd say not nearly as hard use as the M92. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:59:47 AM EDT
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Does PA have any red dots that will hold up to a .454 Casull revolver?
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini.  |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:00:59 PM EDT
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Picked one up the previous time they were in stock.
Pretty solid product IMO. Shot a case of ammo with it by now and no problems. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:05:38 PM EDT
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ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygI've been pondering what I'm gonna replace my EOTech with. I think I just found my answer - thanks! |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:08:06 PM EDT
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Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini. and you could say the Lamborghini needs tons of maintenance which costs 1000s of dollars a year, and the escort just keeps on running. its not a very good analogy |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:17:33 PM EDT
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I've been pondering what I'm gonna replace my EOTech with. I think I just found my answer - thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygI've been pondering what I'm gonna replace my EOTech with. I think I just found my answer - thanks! Yeah, I've been impatiently waiting for the acss to come out. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:26:11 PM EDT
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and you could say the Lamborghini needs tons of maintenance which costs 1000s of dollars a year, and the escort just keeps on running. its not a very good analogy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? Not quite. Diminishing returns. If your life isn't on the line and you already have a few quality optics, getting 85% of the quality for 25% of the cost is worth it. In all honesty, I'd rather outfit 4 rifles with the ADS than one with a T1. Or one rifle with a case of ammo and 20 mags than one T1 and no ammo Sure, except that wasn't the question. In a apples to apples side by side comparison between the two there is no comparison. One is an escort, the other Lamborghini. and you could say the Lamborghini needs tons of maintenance which costs 1000s of dollars a year, and the escort just keeps on running. its not a very good analogy Furthermore, you can abuse the escort and take it on rough dirt roads and it will hold together just fine. Abuse the Lamborghini a little on a rough dirt road, and it will rip off some air splitters, fascias, and probably break. Who wants to work with tools that break when used hard. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:31:31 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? A Ford Escort is cheaper, more reliable, less finicky, and easier to repair. A Lamborghini is fast, flashy, and designed to compete with a Ferrari based on bravado and appearance rather than performance. Wait, which optic is which car? |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:32:52 PM EDT
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I just read the reviews and one reviewer mentioned worthless in bright sunlight. I removed my burris and flipped up the buis due to this very issue. Even if overcast and shooting on snow the dot would disappear. Any red dots made that would work in the conditions in my ao, or do I need something with an illuminated etched reticle?
I've been seeing these for under $200. Bushnell 1-4 throw down |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:36:07 PM EDT
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I've been pondering what I'm gonna replace my EOTech with. I think I just found my answer - thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because they're new. When the market is saturated with them and they're taking up shelf space, they'll blow some out cheap. I'll be waiting. They've been out coming up on 2 years... they have problems keeping them in stock. With the new models coming out (70k hour battery life, lifetime warranty and one with the ACSS reticle) I don't think these will be around if they sell out again. Do you have a link to this for more info? This is the first I've heard about new models or one with the ACSS reticle. ACSS Micro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fN5Lj1mctM
SHOT show talking about 70k hour life and lifetime warranty (shows a rheostat and blacked out logo too )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTuEP6eMygI've been pondering what I'm gonna replace my EOTech with. I think I just found my answer - thanks! Check out the new holosun 503gu. Head over to the main optics forum on here and check out the reviews and testing. Mine is coming in today, but I had to order straight from holosun. No one else was carrying it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:37:51 PM EDT
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How do they compare to an aimpoint? How does a Ford escort compare to a Lamborghini? A Ford Escort is cheaper, more reliable, less finicky, and easier to repair. A Lamborghini is fast, flashy, and designed to compete with a Ferrari based on bravado and appearance rather than performance. Wait, which optic is which car? ill keep running my escort
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:39:24 PM EDT
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Does PA have any red dots that will hold up to a .454 Casull revolver? I have an early fixed base model on my Saiga 12 probably 450 slugs and many more full power loads, good to go! As always YMMV, ask Marshal in the PA forum.. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:42:32 PM EDT
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PA sells them on eBay for the same price with $7.33 shipping. Looks like it's just a buck higher than if I choose the PM option on their site.
NM...Sold-out. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:49:12 PM EDT
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I just read the reviews and one reviewer mentioned worthless in bright sunlight. I removed my burris and flipped up the buis due to this very issue. Even if overcast and shooting on snow the dot would disappear. Any red dots made that would work in the conditions in my ao, or do I need something with an illuminated etched reticle? I've been seeing these for under $200. Bushnell 1-4 throw down They are wrong. The PA is just as bright as an Aimpoint. |
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