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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:20:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Good luck to him.
ETA: what principles? |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:21:18 PM EDT
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IBT... Oh forget it... Trump =
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:22:28 PM EDT
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He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter ......and? 
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:23:34 PM EDT
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Trump has principles?
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:23:44 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:24:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ......and? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter ......and?  |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:26:47 PM EDT
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FPR
FGOPe |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:30:22 PM EDT
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Trump has principles? Even if he somehow did (and he doesn't, of course, unless that principle is "Trump first"), it's pretty obvious, and now openly stated that they aren't conservative ones. However, a lot of his supporters seem to be just fine with that, or supportive of the fact. The rest will dismiss or ignore it. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:31:22 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.     
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:32:29 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:35:38 PM EDT
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He is correct, it needs to be changed.
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:36:36 PM EDT
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Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". If people like Trump are the ideological replacements, then yes, it's a bad thing. The GOP has many issues, but it's the only real vehicle left for the conservative movement to be able to get anything done, politically, as tough as that's been given the dominance of the more progressive neoconservative (and apparently also Trump coalition) types. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:37:04 PM EDT
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:37:36 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you have idiots claiming to be conservative thinkers railing on Trump 24/7.
I argue that this is an example of why people like Mark Levin are ideologically smart but not practically intelligent when it comes to politics. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:40:30 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you have idiots claiming to be conservative thinkers railing on Trump 24/7. I argue that this is an example of why people like Mark Levin are ideologically smart but not practically intelligent when it comes to politics. Why would conservatives not oppose someone who ideologically is their enemy? |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:40:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:45:45 PM EDT
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Even if he somehow did (and he doesn't, of course, unless that principle is "Trump first"), it's pretty obvious, and now openly stated that they aren't conservative ones. However, a lot of his supporters seem to be just fine with that, or supportive of the fact. The rest will dismiss or ignore it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has principles? Even if he somehow did (and he doesn't, of course, unless that principle is "Trump first"), it's pretty obvious, and now openly stated that they aren't conservative ones. However, a lot of his supporters seem to be just fine with that, or supportive of the fact. The rest will dismiss or ignore it. Well,it's hardly as if the GOP has been remotely conservative since that brief blip in the 90s. It certainly hasn't been this century. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:45:55 PM EDT
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The "GPOe" and the "Conservative" people all suck.
I want free economics and free personal decisions. Trump does that better than anyone. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:47:28 PM EDT
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Welcome, other candidate.
Split the party.  |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:48:43 PM EDT
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He's going to get all the female votes.
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:49:12 PM EDT
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He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter *sigh* 
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:51:16 PM EDT
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The "GPOe" and the "Conservative" people all suck. I want free economics and free personal decisions. Trump does that better than anyone. No he doesn't. He uses the government to get special favours, get people evicted so he can build his businesses, openly admits to paying people off, and says he thinks the government should be involved in healthcare, housing, etc., that it should redistribute wealth (via an expanded "entitlement" system), etc. Being a businessman does not make one a free marketer, and I doubt he could actually articulate free market principles. Conservatism believes in the free market, not for its own sake, but because it is essential for the existence of liberty. You can't have a truly liberal political system and have an illiberal market at the same time. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:51:18 PM EDT
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He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter ......and? *ouch* |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:51:39 PM EDT
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Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". so now we are supposed to vote for the republican non-conservative? |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:51:58 PM EDT
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At this point I really hope he wins so we can learn our fucking lesson.
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:52:29 PM EDT
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The "GPOe" and the "Conservative" people all suck. I want free economics and free personal decisions. Trump does that better than anyone. See how you like 100 million illegal aliens from Mexico and OTMs excercising their free economics and free personal decisions....bwahahahahaha.... |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:52:44 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:53:30 PM EDT
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Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. that's a good way of putting it. but I thought we called them "democrats" |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:53:38 PM EDT
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Good for him. Fuck the Republican Party. They are all RINOs anyway. Telling the difference between a dem and repub, these days is like telling the difference between a person from Dallas, and a person from Ft. Worth. There is a difference, but the generalities are so similar, nobody can tell the difference, unless you're in "the beltway".
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:53:51 PM EDT
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sooo, you are not a conservative then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. 
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:56:04 PM EDT
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The "GPOe" and the "Conservative" people all suck. I want free economics and free personal decisions. Trump does that better than anyone. Give me a break. If you're a Trump supporter, that's your choice, but to pretend that he's some sort of "keep the government out of our lives" kind of guy is absolutely ridiculous. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:56:21 PM EDT
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Well,it's hardly as if the GOP has been remotely conservative since that brief blip in the 90s. It certainly hasn't been this century. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has principles? Even if he somehow did (and he doesn't, of course, unless that principle is "Trump first"), it's pretty obvious, and now openly stated that they aren't conservative ones. However, a lot of his supporters seem to be just fine with that, or supportive of the fact. The rest will dismiss or ignore it. Well,it's hardly as if the GOP has been remotely conservative since that brief blip in the 90s. It certainly hasn't been this century. The GOP has never been 100% on the Right. Neither major party has. But it has often served as a vehicle for the Right to accomplish things, with varying degrees of success or failure. The Democratic Party used to as well, but that had mostly ended after Coolidge's election, when both major candidates had nearly identical far-Right platforms. The GOP is, in the end, the party used by the post-war conservative movement, and until the rise of the neoconservative movement, had been successful for a time in re-orienting the party in that direction. The neoconservative movement then diminished conservative influence until you got Bush II in office. The TEA Party Movement, while not entirely composed of conservatives, to be sure, plus related movements, were the backlash against years of a marginalized conservative movement. People like Cruz getting into office in some races was the result. Trump took advantage of the anger, found a less principled and less informed audience to whom he could play demagogue, and got to where he is today. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:57:10 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.God always has mercy on us..... |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:57:25 PM EDT
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Good for him. Fuck the Republican Party. They are all RINOs anyway. Telling the difference between a dem and repub, these days is like telling the difference between a person from Dallas, and a person from Ft. Worth. There is a difference, but the generalities are so similar, nobody can tell the difference, unless you're in "the beltway". Yeah. Remember when the Republicans in our State legislature fucked us this past session by not passing open carry or campus carry? Fuck all of em, right? |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No he doesn't. He uses the government to get special favours, get people evicted so he can build his businesses, openly admits to paying people off, and says he thinks the government should be involved in healthcare, housing, etc., that it should redistribute wealth (via an expanded "entitlement" system), etc. Being a businessman does not make one a free marketer, and I doubt he could actually articulate free market principles. Conservatism believes in the free market, not for its own sake, but because it is essential for the existence of liberty. You can't have a truly liberal political system and have an illiberal market at the same time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The "GPOe" and the "Conservative" people all suck. I want free economics and free personal decisions. Trump does that better than anyone. No he doesn't. He uses the government to get special favours, get people evicted so he can build his businesses, openly admits to paying people off, and says he thinks the government should be involved in healthcare, housing, etc., that it should redistribute wealth (via an expanded "entitlement" system), etc. Being a businessman does not make one a free marketer, and I doubt he could actually articulate free market principles. Conservatism believes in the free market, not for its own sake, but because it is essential for the existence of liberty. You can't have a truly liberal political system and have an illiberal market at the same time. That's it. I'm back to Cruz |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:58:13 PM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.I'm sure you'll still be posting happy little emoticons when hillary passes the next AWB. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 11:59:06 PM EDT
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We are fucked regardless. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:00:28 AM EDT
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Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. We're seeing the demise of the Conservative party, or even ideology. What you're seeing is the rise of the Democrats vs the Socialists. That's what we're going to see. Those are the two parties we'll be electing from here on out. If this election didn't show you that, I don't know what will. liberty and freedom at this point in our history is dead. We're on our way to communism. It's what the people crave. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:01:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The GOP has never been 100% on the Right. Neither major party has. But it has often served as a vehicle for the Right to accomplish things, with varying degrees of success or failure. The Democratic Party used to as well, but that had mostly ended after Coolidge's election, when both major candidates had nearly identical far-Right platforms. The GOP is, in the end, the party used by the post-war conservative movement, and until the rise of the neoconservative movement, had been successful for a time in re-orienting the party in that direction. The neoconservative movement then diminished conservative influence until you got Bush II in office. The TEA Party Movement, while not entirely composed of conservatives, to be sure, plus related movements, were the backlash against years of a marginalized conservative movement. People like Cruz getting into office in some races was the result. Trump took advantage of the anger, found a less principled and less informed audience to whom he could play demagogue, and got to where he is today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump has principles? Even if he somehow did (and he doesn't, of course, unless that principle is "Trump first"), it's pretty obvious, and now openly stated that they aren't conservative ones. However, a lot of his supporters seem to be just fine with that, or supportive of the fact. The rest will dismiss or ignore it. Well,it's hardly as if the GOP has been remotely conservative since that brief blip in the 90s. It certainly hasn't been this century. The GOP has never been 100% on the Right. Neither major party has. But it has often served as a vehicle for the Right to accomplish things, with varying degrees of success or failure. The Democratic Party used to as well, but that had mostly ended after Coolidge's election, when both major candidates had nearly identical far-Right platforms. The GOP is, in the end, the party used by the post-war conservative movement, and until the rise of the neoconservative movement, had been successful for a time in re-orienting the party in that direction. The neoconservative movement then diminished conservative influence until you got Bush II in office. The TEA Party Movement, while not entirely composed of conservatives, to be sure, plus related movements, were the backlash against years of a marginalized conservative movement. People like Cruz getting into office in some races was the result. Trump took advantage of the anger, found a less principled and less informed audience to whom he could play demagogue, and got to where he is today. Now it's time to enjoy the show while people try to justify valueless opinions.  |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:02:17 AM EDT
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Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. yup. "WE NEED TO DEPTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!" "IF YOU DONT VOTE "R" YOU ARE A COMMIE!!" bit of a mixed message |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:05:21 AM EDT
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Trump is and always has been a moron. FDJT.
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:05:25 AM EDT
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Yeah. Remember when the Republicans in our State legislature fucked us this past session by not passing open carry or campus carry? Fuck all of em, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good for him. Fuck the Republican Party. They are all RINOs anyway. Telling the difference between a dem and repub, these days is like telling the difference between a person from Dallas, and a person from Ft. Worth. There is a difference, but the generalities are so similar, nobody can tell the difference, unless you're in "the beltway". Yeah. Remember when the Republicans in our State legislature fucked us this past session by not passing open carry or campus carry? Fuck all of em, right? And who can forget when the republicans in Congress passed that gun ban right after Sandy Hook. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:08:08 AM EDT
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And who can forget when the republicans in Congress passed that gun ban right after Sandy Hook. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good for him. Fuck the Republican Party. They are all RINOs anyway. Telling the difference between a dem and repub, these days is like telling the difference between a person from Dallas, and a person from Ft. Worth. There is a difference, but the generalities are so similar, nobody can tell the difference, unless you're in "the beltway". Yeah. Remember when the Republicans in our State legislature fucked us this past session by not passing open carry or campus carry? Fuck all of em, right? And who can forget when the republicans in Congress passed that gun ban right after Sandy Hook. Fuck them all. Trump has a hot wife and he doesn't eat boogers. Oh, and he also has electrolytes. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:08:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are fucked regardless. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:09:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for him. Fuck the Republican Party. They are all RINOs anyway. Telling the difference between a dem and repub, these days is like telling the difference between a person from Dallas, and a person from Ft. Worth. There is a difference, but the generalities are so similar, nobody can tell the difference, unless you're in "the beltway".  I'm pulling for ya. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:11:24 AM EDT
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I read somewhere that the ROPe is looking into running a 3rd party...effectively forfeiting the election to Hillary. So i guess it does'nt matter anymore if the party can unify. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are fucked regardless.
The election was already forfeited thanks to reality TV fans. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:11:32 AM EDT
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And who here honestly expected the dumbass to any thing other than look like a spoiled rich Kid.
If he goes back on any of his promises the people need to drag him out kicking and screaming and give him the QADHAFI farewell beating. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:14:43 AM EDT
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Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". The difference between a GOPe and a DNC politician hasn't been detectable by any measure when it comes to fiscal responsibility in quite some time. Lindsey Graham not being happy about the current situation is positive reinforcement. They only want to be in power. They don't want to change. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:15:28 AM EDT
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To be fair to Trump, he is right.
Republicans are 23% of the voting public. He would lose if he had all of the Republicans and ignored the Independents. Plus he set the record for the most Republican primary voters in history. So he probably has more than enough Republicans voting for him. He needs Independents to vote for him. It is math more than philosophy. He doesn't need to unite the Republican party, not if he actually wants to get elected President. The only people who don't get that are a really small minority. 
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:16:44 AM EDT
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Why would we miss the GOP? Every time they have the house or the senate or both. They get absolutely nothing done. Democrats pass stuff without even knowing what most of it is. Pretty obvious the Republican party just represents itself and not the American people. |
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