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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:16:31 AM EDT


Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation.

Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California.


Mr Musk, who has donated huge amounts of money to research into the dangers of artificial intelligence, said that he hopes his prediction is true because otherwise it means the world will end.

“The strongest argument for us probably being in a simulation I think is the following,” he told the Code Conference. “40 years ago we had Pong – two rectangles and a dot. That’s where we were.

“Now 40 years later we have photorealistic, 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, we’ll have augmented reality.

“If you assume any rate of improvement at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality, just indistinguishable.”

He said that even if the speed of those advancements dropped by 1000, we would still be moving forward at an intense speed relative to the age of life.

Since that would lead to games that would be indistinguishable from reality that could be played anywhere, “it would seem to follow that the odds that we’re in ‘base reality’ is one in billions”, Mr Musk said.

Asked whether he was saying that the answer to the question of whether we are in a simulated computer game was “yes”, he said the answer is “probably”.

He said that arguably we should hope that it’s true that we live in a simulation. “Otherwise, if civilisation stops advancing, then that may be due to some calamitous event that stops civilisation.”

He said that either we will make simulations that we can’t tell apart from the real world, “or civilisation will cease to exist”.

Mr Musk said that he has had “so many simulation discussions it’s crazy”, and that it got to the point where “every conversation [he had] was the AI/simulation conversation”.

The question of whether what we see is real or simulated has perplexed humans since at least the Ancient philosophers. But it has been given a new and different edge in recent years with the development of powerful computers and artificial intelligence, which some have argued shows how easily such a simulation could be created.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:17:19 AM EDT
[#1]
'Kay
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:17:33 AM EDT
[#2]
First time I've heard this idea.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:18:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Well if that's the case someone needs to upgrade my life.
I want the fine ass good wife/girlfriend, rich guy option added.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:18:42 AM EDT
[#4]
It certainly is a theory to consider.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:18:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:19:43 AM EDT
[#6]
Why would he warn against AI if he believed were living in a simulation? Wouldn't that be moot? If there was already technology out there to create a simulation THIS good, then it's likely that AI's already been invented in real life and is likely why we're in a simulation to begin with.

Just getting his name in the papers.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:19:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:21:08 AM EDT
[#8]
The only thing Elon Musk is good at is getting taxpayer's money.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:21:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:22:27 AM EDT
[#10]


So all we have to do is get naked, overload the CPU, and then we can jump off the edge.

And now, human music.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:23:54 AM EDT
[#11]
Dude sounds like a Bond villain more and more.








Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:24:59 AM EDT
[#12]
if I find out, I've been "virtually" mowing my grass all these years, I'm gonna be pissed off!















Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:26:27 AM EDT
[#13]
IDDQD











Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:26:59 AM EDT
[#14]

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Fucking this.

 



Hand me billions and billions and you'll get more results and less lip.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:28:19 AM EDT
[#15]
He needs to put down whatever he's smoking.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:29:30 AM EDT
[#16]
This is why you don't drop acid while you're watching The Matrix.

That warning label is on there for a reason.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:29:56 AM EDT
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No it isn't. He is a nutcase.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:31:34 AM EDT
[#18]
The Berenstein/Berenstain Bears thing might be proof if it's a simulated reality. There was a glitch that changed Berenstein to Berenstain.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:33:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:33:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Great. Now I've got to send some agents to take him out before he finds the One.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:33:33 AM EDT
[#21]
In before he gets caught in an FBI sting trafficking blow to keep Tesla afloat.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:33:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:03 AM EDT
[#23]
No, we're not.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:09 AM EDT
[#24]
So, if we are in the matrix, why can we not do some matrix type shit? People have since forever thought of magic and similar, it seems to be near instinctual for humans to long for more than what is. Magic and otherworldly powers have been themes of every culture for a long long time. More primitive ones yes, but think about this, the belief in magic has become more taboo as our technology increased, and increased exponentionally. Perhaps the ones controlling the matrix tweaked it to work out that way? Mebbe they wanted a 'stronger bread and circues' to keep the Neo down. Perhaps this matrix is hardcoded to prevent those abilities latent within us. Maybe this world is a jail for us.

Perhaps we were once a mighty galaxy conquoring species using our powers and this matrix is humanities prison to keep the rest of the universe safe.

........ok time to take my meds again.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:46 AM EDT
[#27]
uh, no.

No we're not.


Idiot....is he bunk mates with Hawking?
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:35:15 AM EDT
[#28]
I'd like another opinion
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:35:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:35:50 AM EDT
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IDKFA
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:36:40 AM EDT
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I'm thinking more like Howard Hughes in the later years.  If his hygiene starts to slide and he holes up in the penthouse, he'll be near the end.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:38:57 AM EDT
[#32]
Smart people can say really fucking stupid shit sometimes
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:39:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Here's hoping for a good division by zero.

Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:41:00 AM EDT
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IDDT

I want to know where all the hot women are.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:41:59 AM EDT
[#35]
Musk is a fucking douche nozzel.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:42:30 AM EDT
[#36]
Is that why he re-married the same woman who already divorced him once?  Was he hoping for a reboot?

Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:43:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Time to get the chainsaw and boomstick and set things straight, I guess.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:43:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:44:54 AM EDT
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He totally misguided. Our known Universe is but a tiny cell, part of a vastly larger creation, which is itself a tiny part of ANOTHER level of existence.


Chew on THAT, Elon.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:45:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:45:28 AM EDT
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Watch the movie "The Thirteenth Floor" it is far better then the Matrix in making the case about living in a simulation.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:45:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:47:35 AM EDT
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I want to say there was an episode of Through the Wormhole a couple of years ago that talked about this idea.


 
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:47:52 AM EDT
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That feels like a solid sig line material right there.

 



Perhaps a meme/caption contest?
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:50:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:50:47 AM EDT
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He's steadily losing it.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:53:15 AM EDT
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It's a theory that's becoming popular.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:54:39 AM EDT
[#48]
It's got the critical ingredient of the perfect crackpot theory that will keep it from ever dying.  It's completely impossible to conclusively disprove.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:55:43 AM EDT
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Probably because he's conning people out of billions and his new electric car will tank at launch while he runs away with the money in his Bond supervillain yacht.
Link Posted: 6/2/2016 9:59:50 AM EDT
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http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/simulation.jpg

Elon Musk has said that there is only a “one in billions” chance that we’re not living in a computer simulation.

Our lives are almost certainly being conducted within an artificial world powered by AI and highly-powered computers, like in The Matrix, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO suggested at a tech conference in California.


Mr Musk, who has donated huge amounts of money to research into the dangers of artificial intelligence, said that he hopes his prediction is true because otherwise it means the world will end.

“The strongest argument for us probably being in a simulation I think is the following,” he told the Code Conference. “40 years ago we had Pong – two rectangles and a dot. That’s where we were.

“Now 40 years later we have photorealistic, 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, we’ll have augmented reality.

“If you assume any rate of improvement at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality, just indistinguishable.”

He said that even if the speed of those advancements dropped by 1000, we would still be moving forward at an intense speed relative to the age of life.

Since that would lead to games that would be indistinguishable from reality that could be played anywhere, “it would seem to follow that the odds that we’re in ‘base reality’ is one in billions”, Mr Musk said.

Asked whether he was saying that the answer to the question of whether we are in a simulated computer game was “yes”, he said the answer is “probably”.

He said that arguably we should hope that it’s true that we live in a simulation. “Otherwise, if civilisation stops advancing, then that may be due to some calamitous event that stops civilisation.”

He said that either we will make simulations that we can’t tell apart from the real world, “or civilisation will cease to exist”.

Mr Musk said that he has had “so many simulation discussions it’s crazy”, and that it got to the point where “every conversation [he had] was the AI/simulation conversation”.

The question of whether what we see is real or simulated has perplexed humans since at least the Ancient philosophers. But it has been given a new and different edge in recent years with the development of powerful computers and artificial intelligence, which some have argued shows how easily such a simulation could be created.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html
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Mr. Musk could always suck-start a .357 and learn for sure.
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