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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:16:47 PM EDT
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Possibly next term
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:17:35 PM EDT
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Possibly next term FBHO FHRC |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:19:22 PM EDT
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Not in this country, but they're actively working on it.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:19:49 PM EDT
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Not yet.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:20:38 PM EDT
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Not yet. This.... Hillary would make Bill look like a piker.... |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:20:51 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:31:09 PM EDT
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Possibly next term Yup, grit your teeth boys, she is going in dry |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:34:39 PM EDT
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Possibly next term Absolutely!! |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:35:32 PM EDT
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FDR was close. But not quite as corrupt as FBHO.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:45:45 PM EDT
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What are you talking about? This is the most transparent administration in the history of the US.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:46:22 PM EDT
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Not in this country, but they're actively working on it. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:49:48 PM EDT
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:52:39 PM EDT
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Not in the USA there hasn't. If you want to see this level of corruption elsewhere you'd have to look at nations south of us. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:52:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FDR was close. But not quite as corrupt as FBHO. FDR & Johnson were my first two picks. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:01:45 PM EDT
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:02:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:02:51 PM EDT
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There has never been a more obviously corrupt Administration. Whether its the most corrupt or not who knows. Previous cooks tried to at least put on a public facade...
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:03:39 PM EDT
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NO Possibly under Woodrow Wilson, but there isn't really anyone left alive that can remember what it was like. Any who were just experienced it as very young children. We truly are on the razors edge now. Really the entire western or modern world for that matter is. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:04:32 PM EDT
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP?
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:05:41 PM EDT
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Nuclear deal with Iran
Slimeball mid east refugees Major hassan workplace violence Keystone piipeline |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:05:44 PM EDT
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I was going to say FDR but there is something about this administration that seems so much worse
I think it is just that they are so open about what they do. They have this attitude of being untouchable and to date, they have been  |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:05:46 PM EDT
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office. LOL, not at all. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:06:34 PM EDT
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP? Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:07:07 PM EDT
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Possibly under Woodrow Wilson, but there isn't really anyone left alive that can remember what it was like. Any who were just experienced it as very young children. We truly are on the razors edge now. Really the entire western or modern world for that matter is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Possibly under Woodrow Wilson, but there isn't really anyone left alive that can remember what it was like. Any who were just experienced it as very young children. We truly are on the razors edge now. Really the entire western or modern world for that matter is. Wilson? I doubt it. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP? Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal. That is not a metric. Those are just examples. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:10:14 PM EDT
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office. That's laughable. They were minor league, compared to what we have seen the last 7.5 years. Do you feel dirty and repulsed even associating with gun enthusiasts on this site? |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:11:15 PM EDT
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NO FDR, for one. LBJ would also give Obama a run for his corrupt money. But it's up there. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:11:18 PM EDT
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I was going to say FDR but there is something about this administration that seems so much worse I think it is just that they are so open about what they do. They have this attitude of being untouchable and to date, they have been
Yep. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:11:24 PM EDT
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That is not a metric. Those are just examples. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP? Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal. That is not a metric. Those are just examples. What other administration did anything like run guns to drug cartels or use the IRS as a weapon against citizens and get away with it? |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:11:25 PM EDT
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Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Everybody forgets the 2009 raid on the Gibson guitar factory. Somewhat insignificant, but one of the early signs of what was to come. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:14:42 PM EDT
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Black lives matter.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:14:45 PM EDT
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LOL, not at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office. LOL, not at all. Do you even Patriot Act, bro? Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:15:41 PM EDT
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I was going to say FDR but there is something about this administration that seems so much worse I think it is just that they are so open about what they do. They have this attitude of being untouchable and to date, they have been
Could it be the fact that this administration is openly raciest(possibly Muslim) and anti American? |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:15:51 PM EDT
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What other administration did anything like run guns to drug cartels or use the IRS as a weapon against citizens and get away with it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP? Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal. That is not a metric. Those are just examples. What other administration did anything like run guns to drug cartels or use the IRS as a weapon against citizens and get away with it? That is irrelevant. The OP is trying to make a comparative claim against other administrations but no one has provided any way of measuring that claim. Its analytically retarded. I thought conservatives were supposed to be analytical,but all I am seeing here is anecdotal evidence and feelings. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:16:11 PM EDT
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The reconstruction era after some states said they wanted to SouthXit, was pretty bad. I suspect Grant's administration was probably the most corrupt on record. Ironically, he himself wasn't that bad, but the rest of the administration was supposedly just out of control.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:18:54 PM EDT
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We have had a very checkered past in this regard.
The Grant administration. Andrew Jackson was pretty ruthless but he did pay off the national debt. When John Adams was in office, Thomas Jefferson (his VP) spent a lot of time sabotaging his agenda behind his back. All the while publicly professing the utmost friendship towards him. FDR's administration had it's moments too. Nixon had him moments and LBJ ran one heck of a political machine. We just see so much more today. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:18:59 PM EDT
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FDR comes to mind, but he didn't have the absolute information technology the current administration does.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:20:25 PM EDT
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Everybody forgets the 2009 raid on the Gibson guitar factory. Somewhat insignificant, but one of the early signs of what was to come. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Everybody forgets the 2009 raid on the Gibson guitar factory. Somewhat insignificant, but one of the early signs of what was to come. Yes, this is what we need to list here. Keep it coming. Illegal payouts to Obamacare insurers. Iran nuclear deal. Solyndra and other corrupt green economy payouts. $4.9 Billion in subsidies to Elon Musk. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:21:08 PM EDT
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Lincoln was pretty good at ignoring the constitution.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:21:47 PM EDT
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Do you even Patriot Act, bro? Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office. LOL, not at all. Do you even Patriot Act, bro? Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War. That's nonsense. Patriot is small potato's compared to FDR's destruction of the 10th amendment. But this is about corruption, which is really a different thing. We have long been a post constitutional republic, now we are a banana republic. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:22:09 PM EDT
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I believe that Grant's was the most corrupt.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:26:59 PM EDT
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Yes, 93-01
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:28:48 PM EDT
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the one that gave the power to print US money to a private banking cabal
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:33:07 PM EDT
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Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? The infiltration of the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations in all levels of the federal government. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:33:15 PM EDT
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I believe that Grant's was the most corrupt. This Grant was a drunk, and everyone around him was stealing everything that wasn't nailed down. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:44:41 PM EDT
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That's nonsense. Patriot is small potato's compared to FDR's destruction of the 10th amendment. But this is about corruption, which is really a different thing. We have long been a post constitutional republic, now we are a banana republic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office. LOL, not at all. Do you even Patriot Act, bro? Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War. That's nonsense. Patriot is small potato's compared to FDR's destruction of the 10th amendment. But this is about corruption, which is really a different thing. We have long been a post constitutional republic, now we are a banana republic. 4th Amendment, 10th Amendment... Fuck it, they're just amendments, man. 
But yeah, we're arguing about tyranny when the thread was about corruption. Obummer is bad and may be worse than Bush Jr, but I still think it was afully convenient that he was involved in oil, Cheney in defense, and look at what them boys done did. 
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:53:45 PM EDT
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The infiltration of the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations in all levels of the federal government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? The infiltration of the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations in all levels of the federal government. The firing of an IG for investigating corruption: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/fired_for_doing_his_job_walpin.html |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 4:56:07 PM EDT
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4th Amendment, 10th Amendment... Fuck it, they're just amendments, man.
But yeah, we're arguing about tyranny when the thread was about corruption. Obummer is bad and may be worse than Bush Jr, but I still think it was afully convenient that he was involved in oil, Cheney in defense, and look at what them boys done did.
As I previously wrote, we have been post-constitutional since FDR. Oil? Cheney? That's Chomsky type nonsense. Bush had one of the cleanest administrations, hence the need for Democrats to make stuff up. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 5:03:25 PM EDT
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Don't forget what the Obama EPA has done to:
Coal Oil Mining Their extreme left wing attack on those industries is criminal. |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 5:04:28 PM EDT
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Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO Let's start a list: ACORN voter fraud. DOJ cover up. ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation. Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns. .50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound. DOJ coverup. IRS targeting of political opponents. DOJ cover up. State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya. Clinton email security scandal. DOJ/FBI coverup. What am I forgetting? Loretta Fuddy's tragic death from a boating airplane accident. The shoot down of the Seal Team 6 guys after the Bin Laden raid. I am sure there are more. It is hard to keep track of all their crimes mishandling of all the things. EDIT: I forgot about all the meddling to stimulate the Arab Spring uprisings, etc... |
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