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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:10:35 PM EDT
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think you can see the channel forming in this pic... not sure how old it is...
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:10:51 PM EDT
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Looters should be shot How about a free ride down the Oroville slip 'n slide? |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:13:01 PM EDT
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might be some more erosion near the Main spillway. Not at the break but it looks like down stream from that a new channel seems to be forming left. http://i.imgur.com/yfVOxOQ.png That from recently? No good. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:16:13 PM EDT
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"....might be tied the earths' magnetic field being at an extremely low level..." I don't understand why people aren't flocking to this guy and his theories. The magnetic field thing is the missing link we've been searching for all this time. Obviously, this guy gets it!  "....might be tied the earths' magnetic field being at an extremely low level..." Sooo... This explains why my compasses don't work... 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:16:26 PM EDT
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That from recently? No good. While not good... isn't really that bad either. Erosion down hill from the break doesn't really hurt... that much... So long as the main spillway doesn't erode back toward the gate house it's fine. For now that's been stable... I just hope it remains so. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:23:49 PM EDT
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A post completion project that pulled the ejection handles a pile of money in. Conclusions? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My guess is that a ski jump at the current break in the spill way could be a temporary repair to the main spill way that would enable them to build a new spillway. I'd think that the time to construct a temporary jump would be shorter than the additional excavation and potential blasting work required for a complete new spillway. The other thing I was wondering was the auxiliary gates near the e-spill that were never finished. With modern equipment I wonder if those could be connected as a new diversion tunnel. The challenge there would of course be figure out how to do it if the lake levels are above the inlets. Also, If you are referring to the submerged inlets they were for another set of turbines or power plant feed. IIRC they ran into unsuitable conditions to finish them. A post completion project that pulled the ejection handles a pile of money in. Conclusions? They found the rock was not suitable for tunneling to build a second powerhouse. The same fractured bedrock found in other parts of the dam site. So they abandoned the second powerhouse project after they had built the inlet gates. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:26:30 PM EDT
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How about a free ride down the Oroville slip 'n slide? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looters should be shot How about a free ride down the Oroville slip 'n slide? on Live TV ? 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:28:19 PM EDT
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on Live TV ? Trump tweet or YouTube |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:30:25 PM EDT
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How much would an inch of rain over 24 hours raise the inflow? |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:33:16 PM EDT
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on Live TV ? Trump tweet or YouTube both |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:41:40 PM EDT
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Oroville Dam Repairs Continue Some of the earth moving equipment has the Great Lakes Dredge & Dock company's logo on it. I'm not surprised they are part of this. They are a big company. They are getting ready to do a huge beach replenishment project in Ocean View and then the Outter Banks. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:42:51 PM EDT
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I'd like to see a wide angle picture that includes the damn dam for once, so e-spill/spill/dam, all in one picture. Is that so hard?
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:45:57 PM EDT
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Finally! That last link has what I'm looking for.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:46:32 PM EDT
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I'd like to see a wide angle picture that includes the damn dam for once, so e-spill/spill/dam, all in one picture. Is that so hard? 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:47:02 PM EDT
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might be some more erosion near the Main spillway. Not at the break but it looks like down stream from that a new channel seems to be forming left. http://i.imgur.com/yfVOxOQ.png |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:50:49 PM EDT
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think you can see the channel forming in this pic... not sure how old it is... http://i.imgur.com/W8Xy4Y0.jpg |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 5:55:17 PM EDT
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That makes it look not as bad. Seems like it starts much lower on the broken lower section instead of right there at the main break. Still going to be bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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think you can see the channel forming in this pic... not sure how old it is... http://i.imgur.com/W8Xy4Y0.jpg That makes it look not as bad. Seems like it starts much lower on the broken lower section instead of right there at the main break. Still going to be bad. From the photos, there has been water running down the hill outside the spillway for a couple of days. But it's clean water, indicating it's not eroding anything. This new flow might be an indication that flow has dug down to a point that it's on solid bedrock and is seeking a new flow path. The new flow is eroding the dirt along that new flow channel and we see the muddy water as a result. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:01:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:01:21 PM EDT
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This was GDs biggest, and most education SAFE THREAD ever. And like every safe thread, in the end, it fails to deliver The dam isn't safe until May |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:03:18 PM EDT
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That makes it look not as bad. Seems like it starts much lower on the broken lower section instead of right there at the main break. Still going to be bad. Everything below the break is likely to be totalled by June anyway. What matters is that the erosion doesn't make its way up the hill. It sort of looks like it could undermine more of the hill and create problems later, long way to go still. I still think the end of the upper spillway is sitting on genuine bedrock, they would have ripped the top off the outcropping that was clearly there until they got to something unrippable, otherwise there wouldn't have been a hump in the spillway. If you look at that erosion channel from the E-spill the weathered schisty stuff isn't that deep. ETA-just saw the last pic, yeah that's not good. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI've been wondering if throttling back those gates would change the angle of the "waterfall" and get into some new dirt under the spillway. That thing does not need to get any shorter! |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:39:25 PM EDT
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Got some new pics pulled off of CADWR Source on my Album
Some good shots from bellow the main spillway of the dredging effort. They're just using land based equipment to try to clear a channel close to the far bank opposite the main spillway discharge. 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:47:38 PM EDT
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Got some new pics pulled off of CADWR Source on my Album Some good shots from bellow the main spillway of the dredging effort. They're just using land based equipment to try to clear a channel close to the far bank opposite the main spillway discharge. http://i.imgur.com/8yPdAAh.jpg Holy shit. Good luck with that. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 6:52:34 PM EDT
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Holy shit. Good luck with that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got some new pics pulled off of CADWR Source on my Album Some good shots from bellow the main spillway of the dredging effort. They're just using land based equipment to try to clear a channel close to the far bank opposite the main spillway discharge. http://i.imgur.com/8yPdAAh.jpg Holy shit. Good luck with that. +1 |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:02:52 PM EDT
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+1 Why so negative about this???
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:20:04 PM EDT
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-during-oroville-evacuations-1487372201-htmlstory.html
"Although Butte County sheriff’s officials say there were no reports of looting during recent evacuations below Ororville Dam, there were a handful of burglaries and robberies that targeted fleeing residents, officials said. The incidents began Sunday night, hours after authorities ordered more than 100,000 people to flee to high ground, according to the Butte County Sheriff’s Office. About 6:30 p.m., deputies said, Cody Bowles, 27, and Lucia Ripley, 31, carjacked the vehicle of an Oroville resident who was packing it to flee. The resident left the car running and was moving in and out of the house with items when the couple jumped into the vehicle, officials say. When the resident confronted the pair, they ran him over, seriously injuring him, officials say. Authorities are looking for the pair. About half an hour later, authorities said, Teran Washington 25, and a 16-year-old boy used a shotgun to blast through the front door of a local market and tried to ransack the business before they were confronted by neighbors. Though the two got away, deputies later searched their home and say they found the shotgun and arrested Washington and his young accomplice. The next morning, Michael Matlock, 31, was seen riding an ATV in Gridley and towing a gun safe, authorities say. Tailed by state Department of Water Resources employees who became suspicious, Matlock ran away when his vehicle got stuck on railroad tracks, investigators said. The ATV, the trailer and the gun safe had all been stolen, officials said. Matlock was identified as the ATV driver and arrested on suspicion of burglary, vehicle theft and looting during an emergency, officials said." |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:23:38 PM EDT
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-during-oroville-evacuations-1487372201-htmlstory.html "Although Butte County sheriff’s officials say there were no reports of looting during recent evacuations below Ororville Dam, there were a handful of burglaries and robberies that targeted fleeing residents, officials said. The incidents began Sunday night, hours after authorities ordered more than 100,000 people to flee to high ground, according to the Butte County Sheriff’s Office. About 6:30 p.m., deputies said, Cody Bowles, 27, and Lucia Ripley, 31, carjacked the vehicle of an Oroville resident who was packing it to flee. The resident left the car running and was moving in and out of the house with items when the couple jumped into the vehicle, officials say. When the resident confronted the pair, they ran him over, seriously injuring him, officials say. Authorities are looking for the pair. About half an hour later, authorities said, Teran Washington 25, and a 16-year-old boy used a shotgun to blast through the front door of a local market and tried to ransack the business before they were confronted by neighbors. Though the two got away, deputies later searched their home and say they found the shotgun and arrested Washington and his young accomplice. The next morning, Michael Matlock, 31, was seen riding an ATV in Gridley and towing a gun safe, authorities say. Tailed by state Department of Water Resources employees who became suspicious, Matlock ran away when his vehicle got stuck on railroad tracks, investigators said. The ATV, the trailer and the gun safe had all been stolen, officials said. Matlock was identified as the ATV driver and arrested on suspicion of burglary, vehicle theft and looting during an emergency, officials said." Thank God there was no looting.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:23:45 PM EDT
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-during-oroville-evacuations-1487372201-htmlstory.html "Although Butte County sheriff’s officials say there were no reports of looting during recent evacuations below Ororville Dam, there were a handful of burglaries and robberies that targeted fleeing residents, officials said. The incidents began Sunday night, hours after authorities ordered more than 100,000 people to flee to high ground, according to the Butte County Sheriff’s Office. About 6:30 p.m., deputies said, Cody Bowles, 27, and Lucia Ripley, 31, carjacked the vehicle of an Oroville resident who was packing it to flee. The resident left the car running and was moving in and out of the house with items when the couple jumped into the vehicle, officials say. When the resident confronted the pair, they ran him over, seriously injuring him, officials say. Authorities are looking for the pair. About half an hour later, authorities said, Teran Washington 25, and a 16-year-old boy used a shotgun to blast through the front door of a local market and tried to ransack the business before they were confronted by neighbors. Though the two got away, deputies later searched their home and say they found the shotgun and arrested Washington and his young accomplice. The next morning, Michael Matlock, 31, was seen riding an ATV in Gridley and towing a gun safe, authorities say. Tailed by state Department of Water Resources employees who became suspicious, Matlock ran away when his vehicle got stuck on railroad tracks, investigators said. The ATV, the trailer and the gun safe had all been stolen, officials said. Matlock was identified as the ATV driver and arrested on suspicion of burglary, vehicle theft and looting during an emergency, officials said." Move on, nothing to see here. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:32:06 PM EDT
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Why so negative about this??? It might seem insignificant given the scale of the problem, if you've never drained a pond with the heel of your boot. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:39:21 PM EDT
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Chainsaws gassed and batteries ready, bar oil done, everythings sharpened and ready to cut. Hacked out the dam overflow again, on my property, came close to going over last storm. We'll see what happens with this one. Winch truck is ready too, got extra tarps and tie downs, weighted down the sheds, etc. Fun living in a flash flood area with Eucalyptus trees that the city refuses to take care of, even though it's on their property. Hope they have good insurance, they're gonna need it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. Heavy winds and rain coming in. Fun living in a flash flood area with Eucalyptus trees that the city refuses to take care of, even though it's on their property. Hope they have good insurance, they're gonna need it. Rain is starting now. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:44:36 PM EDT
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Video from Yesterday. Think I see a very little beginning stream that is the channel on the left of the main spillway there. Will post some screen caps in a sec.
 Oroville Dam Aerial Video - Feb 16 2017 https://youtu.be/j8DYb_3XPF4 |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:49:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:52:54 PM EDT
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I will take that bet. These http://nalfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/KSC-69P-631-numbered.jpg are the engineers that slide ruled their way to greatness. IM me for my address. Quote HistoryQuoted:Posted: 2/11/2017 12:41:04 AM PST Quoted:
One thing. The spillway was suppose to have been built on bedrock. But in the pics of the hole, you see dirt and rocks. So now they say that the Espillway is built in bedrock. I've got 5 Pmags saying bullshit. Ed I will take that bet. These http://nalfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/KSC-69P-631-numbered.jpg are the engineers that slide ruled their way to greatness. IM me for my address. Back on the 11th I put out a bet of 5 Pmags. threedogs took it. Well it seems to be a tossup as to bedrock and shitrock. So we've decided to call it a draw. But there has to be a winner. So I've decided to award two people in this thread Gold Memberships. They can be anyone but shit posters or Oregon Duck fans. 
Master_of_Orion will be the decider of winners. (so you can bitch at him) 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:53:42 PM EDT
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Did they rock in the channel the e-spillway overflow cut down the hill or did it just scower all the dirt away? Im guessing it's all scowered out, but it looks like freshly laid rock.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:03:53 PM EDT
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Screen caps from Yesterday's video. http://i.imgur.com/GSN9P2u.png http://i.imgur.com/2ESmIEA.png http://i.imgur.com/LcFwH67.png http://i.imgur.com/d6VHU72.png Album The third and fourth images...look at all of that water back there. Really gives it scale. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:07:09 PM EDT
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Simulation of the Emergency spillway breaching.
 Oroville Spillway Failure Simulation https://youtu.be/zPLq1RxXois also... WHAT? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Back on the 11th I put out a bet of 5 Pmags. threedogs took it. Well it seems to be a tossup as to bedrock and shitrock. So we've decided to call it a draw. But there has to be a winner. So I've decided to award two people in this thread Gold Memberships. They can be anyone but shit posters or Oregon Duck fans.
Master_of_Orion will be the decider of winners. (so you can bitch at him)
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:07:45 PM EDT
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The third and fourth images...look at all of that water back there. Really gives it scale. The second photo could you imagine if the whole thing let loose? Just topple the mountains |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:08:35 PM EDT
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Simulation of the Emergency spillway breaching.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPLq1RxXois
https://youtu.be/zPLq1RxXois also... WHAT? You didn't get the memoo? Ed |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:19:35 PM EDT
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Did they rock in the channel the e-spillway overflow cut down the hill or did it just scower all the dirt away? Im guessing it's all scowered out, but it looks like freshly laid rock. It's SCOURED out. That blueish stone appears to be granite, and it also appears that the depth of the bed is relatively stable, there is still a lot of erosion at the banks of the channel. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:19:41 PM EDT
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Dunno if it's been mentioned in this thread or not, but my local (MT) TV station just reported that during the Oroville evac orders someone broke into a Vietnam vet's house and stole 20+ medals. So many POS' running around.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:23:14 PM EDT
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You didn't get the memoo? Ed So I have no idea who would be deserving. My first thoughts were ProFryan but he's already at platinum... or Chokey but he's a lifer... so... both of which I had to look up while writing this as I had no idea what level they were at. Also... did someone up me? I thought I was at Bronze... If someone did. Thank you very much. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:31:14 PM EDT
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CA DWR are amazing.
These look like perfect reservoir conditions to be going into flood season with! 
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:33:51 PM EDT
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I 100% didn't even know there was a bet going on... I've spent most of my time looking other places than Arfcom for pics and video to then bring into the thread. So I have no idea who would be deserving. My first thoughts were ProFryan but he's already at platinum... or Chokey but he's a lifer... so... both of which I had to look up while writing this as I had no idea what level they were at. Also... did someone up me? I thought I was at Bronze... If someone did. Thank you very much. See it's easy 
Just pick somebody and let me know Ed eta; try doing this a dozen time a year |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:36:28 PM EDT
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Back on the 11th I put out a bet of 5 Pmags. threedogs took it. Well it seems to be a tossup as to bedrock and shitrock. So we've decided to call it a draw. But there has to be a winner. So I've decided to award two people in this thread Gold Memberships. They can be anyone but shit posters or Oregon Duck fans.
Master_of_Orion will be the decider of winners. (so you can bitch at him)
Ed Ed, please let me pick up one of the golds. Doesn't seem right to me otherwise. I'm good with whomever MoO chooses. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:46:32 PM EDT
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See it's easy
Just pick somebody and let me know Ed eta; try doing this a dozen time a year ok. Lorduss and HDLS Looked back through the early pages of the thread and they stood out. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:48:44 PM EDT
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I will take that bet. These http://nalfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/KSC-69P-631-numbered.jpg are the engineers that slide ruled their way to greatness. IM me for my address. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One thing. The spillway was suppose to have been built on bedrock. But in the pics of the hole, you see dirt and rocks. So now they say that the Espillway is built in bedrock. I've got 5 Pmags saying bullshit. Ed I will take that bet. These http://nalfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/KSC-69P-631-numbered.jpg are the engineers that slide ruled their way to greatness. IM me for my address. Here's the bet. Seems like a wash to me. I've got @Lorduss. Log out and log back in again. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI made it 4 minutes before i just couldn't take that narrator's voice anymore. I kept expecting to hear George Noory break-in any second. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 8:58:52 PM EDT
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might be some more erosion near the Main spillway. Not at the break but it looks like down stream from that a new channel seems to be forming left. http://i.imgur.com/yfVOxOQ.png eta: covered |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 9:01:53 PM EDT
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It's SCOURED out. That blueish stone appears to be granite, and it also appears that the depth of the bed is relatively stable, there is still a lot of erosion at the banks of the channel. From what I recall, that's not granite as seen there. Granite underlies the dam, but what you're looking at is metamorphic country rock. Likely greenstone, which is typically altered basalt. |
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Posted: 2/17/2017 9:01:58 PM EDT
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ok. Lorduss and HDLS Looked back through the early pages of the thread and they stood out. Good man. No pressure see 
Gold Members inbound Ed |
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