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Posted: 4/9/2017 7:40:56 AM EST
In the market for a .338. Originally wanted a SRS, but decided that was too expensive, then wanted a TRG but can't sell the wife on the 4k for the rifle, so now I am looking for something for 3k or less.
Which would you choose? Armalite AR30a1 
MPA 338 
Or just get a Savage 110FCP for less than half the price and could always put it in a chassis 
Or some other option I haven't considered. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 7:42:45 AM EST
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Does NH have any ranges long enough to justify it?
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Posted: 4/9/2017 7:43:52 AM EST
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Does NH have any ranges long enough to justify it? |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 7:44:29 AM EST
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Of those 3 Id go Savage. Does Tika have a .338 offering in your ball park?
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Posted: 4/9/2017 7:55:24 AM EST
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Of those 3 Id go Savage. Does Tika have a .338 offering in your ball park? |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:00:16 AM EST
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The Savage and a chassis would easily be my pick.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:01:52 AM EST
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If you can't afford a decent quality rifle, how in the hell are going to afford to shoot it? (even if you handload?)
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:01:55 AM EST
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Good friend has the Savage. Good rifle.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:06:54 AM EST
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If you can't afford a decent quality rifle, how in the hell are going to afford to shoot it? (even if you handload?) |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:07:50 AM EST
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Only see hunting rifle type options from tikka http://www.weatherby.com/products/rifles.html?caliber=37 |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:15:18 AM EST
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Perfect for home defense
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:41:27 AM EST
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:43:46 AM EST
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Brother, if you're worried about price then .338 is NOT for you. Those things shoot $5 bills.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:52:37 AM EST
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Posted: 4/9/2017 8:56:32 AM EST
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I wouldn't get the Savage personally as while they shoot well I just don't want one in 338LM.
I would go with the AR30-A1 of your choices. If you could go $4K (I would sell something to make it happen) the TRG or MRAD (some are available for $4250 right now) would be my choices. The MRAD would actually be my choice since it is a switch barrel. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:06:40 AM EST
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Buy the savage and a single stage press.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:16:30 AM EST
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I went the Savage route. I built a 300 win mag based on a Savage model 111. Used MDT Tac 21. I have less than $1700 in the gun minus optics. Have not purchased scope that I want yet. Scope in picture is cheap model until I get a new one. Good project to learn about bolt action rifles.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:17:01 AM EST
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If you don't reload then get the savage and a press. If you already have a press buy a used TRG-42. They're a superb rifle built for used in cold weather (it's cold in Finland after all). Makes some of the options you listed look and feel like toys.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:31:14 AM EST
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The benefit of buying a Savage is easy barrel change and fair aftermarket support.
The local manufacturer's rep had a .338 Lapua model they drug around to demonstrations for at least a couple of years that had a defective trigger. There's good news there, too, there are good aftermarket triggers available. I really like the effectiveness of the tank brakes on Armalite rifles. I don't care much for the blast of gas, but it's a small price to pay for recoil such that the scope reticle stays on the target. I'll probably buy the Sako model 85 I linked above later this year. I have a couple of other rifles and a project to sort out first. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:33:25 AM EST
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Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop .338 Lapua or something like that?
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:53:09 AM EST
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Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop .338 Lapua or something like that? |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 9:55:04 AM EST
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The Savage is good IMHO.
How much you want to spend on the scope now? |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:03:25 AM EST
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I have the savage and I have Zero complaints
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:04:02 AM EST
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The Savage is good IMHO. How much you want to spend on the scope now? Looking at Bushnell Elite Tactical series for a scope |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:09:58 AM EST
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Why .338? Last I checked the ammo price made .50 looked like a cheap date.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:12:14 AM EST
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Buy the savage and a single stage press. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:16:32 AM EST
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whats with the love of the metal stocks?
shit you could have a nice one built on a 700 with a can for 2k easy. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:24:47 AM EST
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Posted: 4/9/2017 11:55:33 AM EST
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Why .338? Last I checked the ammo price made .50 looked like a cheap date. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 1:05:54 PM EST
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If you don't reload then get the savage and a press. If you already have a press buy a used TRG-42. They're a superb rifle built for used in cold weather (it's cold in Finland after all). Makes some of the options you listed look and feel like toys. Attached File
If OP can't find a minty used one and can't sport for a new one, I'd look at the Savage offerings, but that's just me. Gotta reload if he's going to shoot it more than once a year. Chris |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 1:15:51 PM EST
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Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop .338 Lapua or something like that?  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 1:18:30 PM EST
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Because .8 BC and it outperform .50cal in nearly every way. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 1:22:47 PM EST
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Will you hunt with it?
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Posted: 4/10/2017 1:52:22 PM EST
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50 cal 750 gr. Amax BC is 1.050 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because .8 BC and it outperform .50cal in nearly every way. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:01:44 PM EST
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Get the Savage - it already has the aluminum chassis built into the stock with full free float barrel.
Practice/learn with the factory barrel and order 2 custom barrels at the same time for upgrade/replacement. By the time you've shot out the factory barrel you should have your custom barrels in and ready to swap out. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:05:26 PM EST
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I don't know how long Savage barrels last but TRG barrels last 4,000 rounds. It'll take a stack of money to burn it out.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:07:31 PM EST
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Brother, if you're worried about price then .338 is NOT for you. Those things shoot $5 bills. For me, it would make no sense. No range around here beyond 500 meters. A waste of my time to get a caliber like that. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:07:58 PM EST
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You missed the point. Not many rounds out there can be chambered in a lightweight rifle and humped all over Gods green earth. A .338 (or .375CT) will do everything a .50 will do and more...minus payload delivery (MK211), if you care about anti-material capabilities. If you're going from the trunk of a car to the range bench and back then that might not matter. 
For a pure anti personnel sniper rifle , you are correct in the 338 being superior. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:09:04 PM EST
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50 cal 750 gr. Amax BC is 1.050 A Match .50 BMG has very high BC. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:09:33 PM EST
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I got a savage 110 and nowhere to shoot the mfers.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:11:22 PM EST
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Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop .338 Lapua or something like that?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvzinVM7aWAJust my opinion though. The plate is practically free swinging so it will be harder to penetrate - put it up against a 250 pound weighted backstop and lets see it again. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:14:29 PM EST
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I don't know how long Savage barrels last but TRG barrels last 4,000 rounds. It'll take a stack of money to burn it out. I remember him saying that they were getting about 4,000 rounds before the barrels failed their accuracy requirements, which was something like 25cm at 1000m. He also mentioned that the army quickly ditched the Sako stainless steel barrels in favor of the chromoly 'black steel.' They were shooting the 250gr. Scenars, IIRC and getting hits out to 2000m as a rule. It was good stuff. I do remember one SH member stating that at 1600 rounds he reabarreled because his throat was already toast, so who knows? Chris |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:14:45 PM EST
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I think their test methods are flawed. Just my opinion though. The plate is practically free swinging so it will be harder to penetrate - put it up against a 250 pound weighted backstop and lets see it again. it was not in any way free swinging. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:15:46 PM EST
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I don't know how long Savage barrels last but TRG barrels last 4,000 rounds. It'll take a stack of money to burn it out. They are very good barrels. Hammer forged I think. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:18:31 PM EST
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Get the savage and spend the rest on glass.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:22:23 PM EST
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just build one
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:23:27 PM EST
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Depending one what your intended use is the MPA is built on a custom action, and they make good stuff. Most people I know who have a 338 don't spend much time behind it.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:26:08 PM EST
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Okay, they shot a plate at 100 yards with a 300 grain 338. the plate was taped to a standing steel target (much harder than a human body). It proved the point that that it would stop a 338. the point is that if it will stop the 338 it will stop the shit you are likely to get with. it was not in any way free swinging. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think their test methods are flawed. Just my opinion though. The plate is practically free swinging so it will be harder to penetrate - put it up against a 250 pound weighted backstop and lets see it again. it was not in any way free swinging. Like I said I think the test method is flawed. You make a product that is supposed to save lives and the test method looks like a Wile E. Coyote experiment = not much confidence. Buy all you want but that shit looks too funky for me to believe it's reliable. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:26:31 PM EST
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:28:48 PM EST
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Savage and spend the money on glass. Then go chassis route later if you want.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 2:51:09 PM EST
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Buy once, cry once. Sako TRG just a little over that budget, not going to buy anything better.
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