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Posted: 7/4/2017 7:01:59 PM EDT

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This probably ruined 4th of July BBQ plans for a few high ranking people in Washington who will now find themselves working today.

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If the 4th fell on a Sunday this year they might not have noticed

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:05:01 PM EDT

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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team. Not that they are on my team.

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Honolulu and Anchorage are within reach and a Pearl Harbor 2 scenario on Camp Smith involving missiles isn't a pleasant thought, especially since I love the MWR program they have

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:05:23 PM EDT

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Tha's a good question.

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We have eyes on all this stuff in real time.

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:05:56 PM EDT

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so first I've heard of this. Is California still there? Or did anything happen at all?

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:09:18 PM EDT

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Sure, I'm leery of professors generally but the Naval War College and Tom have a reputable track record, even if I disagree with him from time to time. Plus, I like to review all sides in a matter before finalizing my own conclusions.

Russia & Japan have made their statements but there's still a few others I'm waiting to hear from after the holiday

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:10:57 PM EDT

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Coincidental that Xinping just happened to be visiting Putin, maybe there's a few chess games being played at the same time.

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I'm sure it wasn't just to announce another 10 billion in new trade deals

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:15:31 PM EDT

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Take the next one down. Do SK or Japan not have defensive missile tech? Or are they all just sitting ducks now?

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China and by extension North Korea and Iran are going with a stratagem over overwhelming defense with a mass of missiles. Different war gaming has produced different outcomes in the last few years. China feels confident it can produce an favorable outcome regarding Taiwan & the S. China sea but Iran & N. Korea aren't quite there yet in my estimation

2030 is my guess as to when it could become dicey based on conversations I've had at the Naval Postgraduate School

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:18:22 PM EDT

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The real problem is political, not military.
South Korea doesn't have the resolve to end to the Nork nuclear program. They could have stopped it 10+ years ago, when NK detonated their first nuclear bomb.

The South Koreans seem content to rollover and allow NK to have nuclear bombs and missiles. They don't care, because Americans will protect them.

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Large segments of the South Korean population believe one day North Korea will be absorbed and South Korea will control their military assets. Personally, I think it's wishful thinking but Korean nationalists are not the easiest people to converse with

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:25:23 PM EDT

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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:25:45 PM EDT

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There are still a LOT of good Americans in California who can't get out. In a state that big, there are probably more decent people than total populations of other states.

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39% of the state is conservative, although me, James Woods and Mike Rowe are among the handful along the coastal area north of Orange County

Posted: 7/4/2017 7:43:46 PM EDT

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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 2, 2017

It happened. https://t.co/KKgf9d8G6X
Jeffrey Lewis (@ArmsControlWonk) July 4, 2017

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Well, a nuke wasn't involved.

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:10:37 PM EDT

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BREAKING: US secretary of state confirms North Korea's missile test was with an intercontinental ballistic missile.
The Associated Press (@AP) July 4, 2017

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:13:09 PM EDT

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This is from a missile expert.

John Schilling estimated the Hwasong-14 could travel 10,000 km with a light warhead. We'll see if performance lives up to expectations.
Jeffrey Lewis (@ArmsControlWonk) July 4, 2017

That basically includes California.

10,000 km = 6,214 miles

NK to LA = 5,806 miles

Shit, even includes Denver. Pretty much the entire western portion of the United States.

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Not to mention if the Norks stick one on a ship and get it closer to the US shore.

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:14:21 PM EDT

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Seoul isn't in KY either but that won't stop me from questioning a 70 year old strategy that leaves their main existential threat within artillery range of their Capitol city.

Who the Hell thought it was a good idea to just keep growing Seoul all this time and therefore leaving SK's throat exposed?

I guess it doesn't matter much when you rely on us for your well being and national security.

Now I'm just a poor dumb Hillbilly but the strategy as it has been played is suicidal for the good guys.

And inevitably, here we are with no good options......AGAIN.

FUCK.

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All the people who kept moving there, building their businesses there, etc... I imagine.

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:14:46 PM EDT

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U.S. requests U.N. Security Council meeting on North Korea missile launch https://t.co/Zpfa37dpaY pic.twitter.com/39vBLOfGkD
Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 4, 2017

US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley calls for emergency UN Security Council meeting on North Korea missile launch https://t.co/cMg2FYJTH7 pic.twitter.com/g3KN8L6GJJ
CNN (@CNN) July 4, 2017

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:17:37 PM EDT

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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.

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Yeah, right.

Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:19:08 PM EDT

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Not to mention if the Norks stick one on a ship and get it closer to the US shore.

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Or a submarine.

Posted: 7/4/2017 8:45:25 PM EDT

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I'm sure it wasn't just to announce another 10 billion in new trade deals

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"They talked about their grandchildren."

Posted: 7/4/2017 10:28:51 PM EDT

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All the people who kept moving there, building their businesses there, etc... I imagine.

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Clint Eastwood voice /// Then they shoulda thought of that when they decided to move into a war zone /// Clint Eastwood voice

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:13:13 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/5/2017 3:15:38 PM EDT

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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:23:47 PM EDT

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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.

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Yea I was listening to it. A women will have no effect on a third world dictator.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:24:49 PM EDT

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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other.

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Posted: 7/5/2017 3:30:33 PM EDT

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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.

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I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:32:59 PM EDT

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I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.

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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.

I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.

I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:36:49 PM EDT

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Be sure to clap during the announcement, the state will be watching you as you watch the state

http://newfocusintl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/northkoreantelevision.jpg

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I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:41:40 PM EDT

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I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.

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I would have much preferred her give a speech letting everyone at the UN know that 10 minutes ago we had a drone launch a hellfire missile up Lil Kim's ass

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:44:09 PM EDT

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Hawaii seems to be flying under the radar

Good

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:49:00 PM EDT

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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 2, 2017

It happened. https://t.co/KKgf9d8G6X
Jeffrey Lewis (@ArmsControlWonk) July 4, 2017

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Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:51:37 PM EDT

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Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...

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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 2, 2017

It happened. https://t.co/KKgf9d8G6X
Jeffrey Lewis (@ArmsControlWonk) July 4, 2017

Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...

Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't have a nuclear weapon that can do that yet. They have an ICBM that can with no warhead.

Posted: 7/5/2017 3:54:05 PM EDT

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Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't have a nuclear weapon that can do that yet. They have an ICBM that can with no warhead.

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Even their PROTO ICBM isn't capable...

Think abt it...

Posted: 7/5/2017 5:12:42 PM EDT

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Yeah, right.

Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.

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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.

Yeah, right.

Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.

I think he was talking about economic war against China, not a shooting war.

It's already cheaper to do business in Mexico because of Chinese Yuan inflation and their attempts to raise standard of living and domestic consumption of Chinese goods.

Posted: 7/5/2017 10:06:01 PM EDT

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I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.

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Be sure to clap during the announcement, the state will be watching you as you watch the state

http://newfocusintl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/northkoreantelevision.jpg

I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.

Or how badly photoshopped the TV looks

Posted: 7/5/2017 10:07:48 PM EDT

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I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.

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Her speeches sound like she's reading a childrens book to 4th graders.

Posted: 7/5/2017 10:29:09 PM EDT

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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.

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maybe she will remove some more civil war memorials ... that will show she means business

Posted: 7/5/2017 10:45:12 PM EDT

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What if the warhead is loaded with this and launched at the beginning of a 49ers game?

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Posted: 7/5/2017 11:59:06 PM EDT

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RAW: North Korea launches ICBM (state TV footage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD9styRiuYQ

Posted: 7/6/2017 12:07:53 AM EDT

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-vows-tougher-action-on-north-korea-after-missile-test/ar-BBDMOlY?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr

"UNITED NATIONS — The United States toughened its military pressure and invective against nuclear-armed North Korea on Wednesday “any country that does business with this outlaw regime.”

The American actions came a day after North Korea conducted a successful test of an intercontinental ballistic missile that appeared capable of hitting Alaska and Hawaii and was described by the United States as a “dangerous escalation” in what has become a crisis for the Trump administration. Claiming the test had been timed to America’s July 4 holiday, North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, described the missile as a “gift package” to the United States.

The proposal for broader sanctions appeared aimed especially at China, North Korea’s most important trading partner. It was part of a vocal public effort by the Trump administration to push President Xi Jinping of China by linking improved American-Chinese trade relations to solving the North Korea problem — and threatening worse trade relations if China does not help more."

Trade between China and North Korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. So much for China working with us - but we had to give it a try!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 5, 2017