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Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:01:59 PM EST
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This probably ruined 4th of July BBQ plans for a few high ranking people in Washington who will now find themselves working today.
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If the 4th fell on a Sunday this year they might not have noticed
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:05:01 PM EST
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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team.  Not that they are on my team.
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Honolulu and Anchorage are within reach and a Pearl Harbor 2 scenario on Camp Smith involving missiles isn't a pleasant thought, especially since I love the MWR program they have
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:05:23 PM EST
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Tha's a good question.
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We have eyes on all this stuff in real time.  
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:05:56 PM EST
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so first I've heard of this.  Is California still there? Or did anything happen at all?
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:09:18 PM EST
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lol
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Sure, I'm leery of professors generally but the Naval War College and Tom have a reputable track record, even if I disagree with him from time to time. Plus, I like to review all sides in a matter before finalizing my own conclusions.

Russia & Japan have made their statements but there's still a few others I'm waiting to hear from after the holiday
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:10:57 PM EST
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Coincidental that Xinping just happened to be visiting Putin, maybe there's a few chess games being played at the same time.
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I'm sure it wasn't just to announce another 10 billion in new trade deals
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:15:31 PM EST
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Take the next one down. Do SK or Japan not have defensive missile tech?  Or are they all just sitting ducks now?
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China and by extension North Korea and Iran are going with a stratagem over overwhelming defense with a mass of missiles. Different war gaming has produced different outcomes in the last few years. China feels confident it can produce an favorable outcome regarding Taiwan & the S. China sea but Iran & N. Korea aren't quite there yet in my estimation

2030 is my guess as to when it could become dicey based on conversations I've had at the Naval Postgraduate School
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:18:22 PM EST
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The real problem is political, not military. 
South Korea doesn't have the resolve to end to the Nork nuclear program.  They could have stopped it 10+ years ago, when NK detonated their first nuclear bomb. 

The South Koreans seem content to rollover and allow NK to have nuclear bombs and missiles.  They don't care, because Americans will protect them. 
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Large segments of the South Korean population believe one day North Korea will be absorbed and South Korea will control their military assets. Personally, I think it's wishful thinking but Korean nationalists are not the easiest people to converse with
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:25:23 PM EST
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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:25:45 PM EST
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There are still a LOT of good Americans in California who can't get out.  In a state that big, there are probably more decent people than total populations of other states.
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39% of the state is conservative, although me, James Woods and Mike Rowe are among the handful along the coastal area north of Orange County

Link Posted: 7/4/2017 6:43:46 PM EST
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

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Well, a nuke wasn't involved.  
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:10:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:13:09 PM EST
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This is from a missile expert.

That basically includes California.

10,000 km = 6,214 miles

NK to LA = 5,806 miles

Shit, even includes Denver. Pretty much the entire western portion of the United States.
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Not to mention if the Norks stick one on a ship and get it closer to the US shore.
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:14:21 PM EST
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Seoul isn't in KY either but that won't stop me from questioning a 70 year old strategy that leaves their main existential threat within artillery range of their Capitol city.

Who the Hell thought it was a good idea to just keep growing Seoul all this time and therefore leaving SK's throat exposed?

I guess it doesn't matter much when you rely on us for your well being and national security.

Now I'm just a poor dumb Hillbilly but the strategy as it has been played is suicidal for the good guys.

And inevitably, here we are with no good options......AGAIN.

FUCK.
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All the people who kept moving there, building their businesses there, etc... I imagine.
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:14:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:17:37 PM EST
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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.
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Yeah, right.  Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped  the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:19:08 PM EST
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Not to mention if the Norks stick one on a ship and get it closer to the US shore.
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Or a submarine.
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 7:45:25 PM EST
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I'm sure it wasn't just to announce another 10 billion in new trade deals
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"They talked about their grandchildren."
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 9:28:51 PM EST
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All the people who kept moving there, building their businesses there, etc... I imagine.
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Clint Eastwood voice /// Then they shoulda thought of that when they decided to move into a war zone /// Clint Eastwood voice
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:13:13 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:15:38 PM EST
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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:23:47 PM EST
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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.  
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Yea I was listening to it. A women will have no effect on a third world dictator.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:24:49 PM EST
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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other.
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Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:30:33 PM EST
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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.  
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I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.  
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:32:59 PM EST
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I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.  
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Niki Hailey is giving a strongly worded speech to the UN SC right now. Fwiw.  
I heard parts of it while I was at work, unfortunately I think we're past the point of strong words doing much good.  
I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:36:49 PM EST
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Be sure to clap during the announcement, the state will be watching you as you watch the state http://newfocusintl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/northkoreantelevision.jpg
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I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:41:40 PM EST
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I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.
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I would have much preferred her give a speech letting everyone at the UN know that 10 minutes ago we had a drone launch a hellfire missile up Lil Kim's ass  
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:44:09 PM EST
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Hawaii seems to be flying under the radar

Good
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:49:00 PM EST
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

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Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:51:37 PM EST
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Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.

Pretty STUPID...

It HASN'T HAPPENED...

Yet...
Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't have a nuclear weapon that can do that yet. They have an ICBM that can with no warhead.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 2:54:05 PM EST
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Yeah, that was my first thought. They don't have a nuclear weapon that can do that yet. They have an ICBM that can with no warhead.
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Even their PROTO ICBM isn't capable...

Think abt it...
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 4:12:42 PM EST
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Yeah, right.  Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped  the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.
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It's way too late for war with Best Korea.

The only option now is to starve them out by choking off China economically.

Ruin China and North Korea is done. We can ruin China economically in months, if we choose.

Yeah, right.  Oh, by then way, we are still at war with North Korea and have been for over 50 years. An armistice was declared which ended hostilities. But, did not end the war. We are and have been at war with North Korea. We just temporarily stopped  the fighting. Good luck with that ignorant idea of ruining China in just a few months.
I think he was talking about economic war against China, not a shooting war.

It's already cheaper to do business in Mexico because of Chinese Yuan inflation and their attempts to raise standard of living and domestic consumption of Chinese goods.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 9:06:01 PM EST
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I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.
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Be sure to clap during the announcement, the state will be watching you as you watch the state http://newfocusintl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/northkoreantelevision.jpg
I enjoy how there are no cords going into that telephone.
Or how badly photoshopped the TV looks
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 9:07:48 PM EST
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I agree.

Her delivery was on a par with mine when I was in the 7th grade.
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Her speeches sound like she's reading a childrens book to 4th graders.
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 9:29:09 PM EST
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maybe she will remove some more civil war memorials ... that will show she means business
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 9:45:12 PM EST
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What if the warhead is loaded with this and launched at the beginning of a 49ers game?

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Link Posted: 7/5/2017 10:59:06 PM EST
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RAW: North Korea launches ICBM (state TV footage)
Link Posted: 7/5/2017 11:07:53 PM EST
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-vows-tougher-action-on-north-korea-after-missile-test/ar-BBDMOlY?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr

"UNITED NATIONS — The United States toughened its military pressure and invective against nuclear-armed North Korea on Wednesday “any country that does business with this outlaw regime.”

The American actions came a day after North Korea conducted a successful test of an intercontinental ballistic missile that appeared capable of hitting Alaska and Hawaii and was described by the United States as a “dangerous escalation” in what has become a crisis for the Trump administration. Claiming the test had been timed to America’s July 4 holiday, North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, described the missile as a “gift package” to the United States.

The proposal for broader sanctions appeared aimed especially at China, North Korea’s most important trading partner. It was part of a vocal public effort by the Trump administration to push President Xi Jinping of China by linking improved American-Chinese trade relations to solving the North Korea problem — and threatening worse trade relations if China does not help more."

Link Posted: 7/5/2017 11:09:38 PM EST
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What if the warhead is loaded with this and launched at the beginning of a 49ers game?

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http://www.filminamerica.com/Movies/TheRock/rock27.jpg
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Link Posted: 7/5/2017 11:22:28 PM EST
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Pentagon explains why it didn't shoot down North Korean ICBM
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