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Posted: 8/7/2017 6:55:14 AM EDT
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No... 1 larger than 7/16 is 15/32. We use metric on some projects, but its more labor intensive due to all the converting and double checking. Line said above, we machine in .001's, even if the print is metric. Personally, I'm a fan of SAE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay. We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part. Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench? Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s? We use metric on some projects, but its more labor intensive due to all the converting and double checking. Line said above, we machine in .001's, even if the print is metric. Personally, I'm a fan of SAE. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 6:59:57 AM EDT
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Nazi Germany used the metric system.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:17:55 AM EDT
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No... 1 larger than 7/16 is 15/32. We use metric on some projects, but its more labor intensive due to all the converting and double checking. Line said above, we machine in .001's, even if the print is metric. Personally, I'm a fan of SAE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay. We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part. Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench? Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s? We use metric on some projects, but its more labor intensive due to all the converting and double checking. Line said above, we machine in .001's, even if the print is metric. Personally, I'm a fan of SAE. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:28:01 AM EDT
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It ain't metri-fuck-cation. It's fucking metrication.
Make units of time, units of degrees and global position handily divisible by 10, or GTFO. But, muh sekints tho. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:36:28 AM EDT
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The measurement overlords will never let us switch. There is too much money to be made...go buy two sets of wrenches please.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:48:30 AM EDT
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The baby jesus gave you believers 10 fucking fingers, but you fight base 10. Y'all stupid, yo. I can specify a weight as 0.001 pounds-force, or as 0.001 Newtons. Same with dimensions, 13.753 meters, 13.753 yards. The key there is understanding the definitions of those four measures. Want to talk about milli-inches? We can do that, too. "Milli" has a definition separate from an SI measurement system. There is no SAE system of measures. At best that is a standardization of dimensions of screws or other common devices to prevent jackasses from making 7/13.7 screws for widely distributed assemblies, although I know without a shadow of doubt that there is some completely dumbass PhD that believes he should select threads that are "perfect", instead of stuff that is producible and maintainable at an affordable cost. Guaranteed. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:48:40 AM EDT
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I already use enough of both systems working on my American vehicles.
I can visualize SAE measurements, I can't with metric. You know who used the metric system? Communists. Don't be a commie. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 7:56:27 AM EDT
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I hate surveying in metric .
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:00:43 AM EDT
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Damn those pesky multiples of ten.
16, 32, 64 -- FTW |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:02:38 AM EDT
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Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s? 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:06:34 AM EDT
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The "foot" is a useful length, centimeter is too small and meter is too big.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:09:15 AM EDT
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Metric is for simpletons. I rather enjoy fractions and decimal equivalents, inches to miles conversions... oh, the list goes on 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:09:59 AM EDT
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what about pressure?
Why use bar? 0-1.4 bar when you could use a more precise range of 0-20 psi |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:10:11 AM EDT
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Metric sucks. I won't use it unless I have to.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:10:42 AM EDT
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LOL We accepted it, not saying I like it but we were smart enough to adopt to it. Not so much south of the border apparently.  |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:12:28 AM EDT
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Nazi Germany used the metric system. And I cant believe that 49% of the people that answered this pole are commies 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:21:51 AM EDT
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Nazi Germany used the metric system. And I cant believe that 49% of the people that answered this pole are commies How very dare you..... 
It's third world shitholers like you Septics that are holding back human development don't you know. It's only you guys, Liberia and Burma that still officially hold the Imperial system exclusively. 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:22:51 AM EDT
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The world over, the length of ones dick is expressed in inches. Why? 'Merica, that's why.
The US was wise not to let her competitors slow her along the way to greatness with the adoption of some other, arbitrarialy defined units of measure. Units of measure might be styled for users' convenience, but every unit of measure is arbitrary. I've tried to think of a unit of physical measure not arbitrarliy defined, but can't. Seriously: why not define the arc measure of a circle as 100 or 1000 -whatevers? Why not define the length of one day in 100 whatevers? The answer to those questions is the logic behind why the US didn't bother adopting some other arbitrarly defined units of measure. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:32:55 AM EDT
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I always find myself trying to convert metric units to our units for comparison. I haven't yet gotten to the point that I intuitively know that 37 centimeters equals X inches. I am guessing it is 11 inches or so....about a little more than a third of a meter.... My point is it would be nice if I automatically knew what the metric equivalent was without having to do all those mental gymnastics. As I learned Spanish at the same time if speaking Spanish I use metric. Guy at the Taco Truck asked where I was from and told him 90 km from here to the east. He laughed and asked why I didn't use miles. I simply never learned the words as they weren't used in Spain. A two liter hug of milk is close enough to a half gallon as to be no difference at all. We already drink beer in 33cl containers anyhow. A dozen eggs is a dozen eggs. To get proficient at it you stop trying to convert and just go with it. The new LT who signed off on my paperwork was confused about the measurements on the contract for bars on the windows. I told him I just used a metric tape measure and I didn't really know how many feet and inches it was. The First Sergeant who was s crusty old bastard told the LT that the contractors didn't care how many Argents (old French measure of distance still used on continental horse tracks) it was from the shop to the base either. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:41:21 AM EDT
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 Attached FileThe rod on the left is metric. That shit for surveying is an abomination . Rod on the right is the correct way |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:45:06 AM EDT
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I did purchasing in Spain for the Marine Corps. I simply forgot about inches and feet for projects I was putting up for bids. Threw out my sae tape measure and used a metric one. Once you stop trying to convert it it is simple. As I learned Spanish at the same time if speaking Spanish I use metric. Guy at the Taco Truck asked where I was from and told him 90 km from here to the east. He laughed and asked why I didn't use miles. I simply never learned the words as they weren't used in Spain. A two liter hug of milk is close enough to a half gallon as to be no difference at all. We already drink beer in 33cl containers anyhow. A dozen eggs is a dozen eggs. To get proficient at it you stop trying to convert and just go with it. The new LT who signed off on my paperwork was confused about the measurements on the contract for bars on the windows. I told him I just used a metric tape measure and I didn't really know how many feet and inches it was. The First Sergeant who was s crusty old bastard told the LT that the contractors didn't care how many Argents (old French measure of distance still used on continental horse tracks) it was from the shop to the base either. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 8:56:28 AM EDT
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I'm pro metric, any measurement system that goes down to a micron (one thousandth of a millimeter) and divisible by 10 has got to be easier to grasp and work with than the same measurement in SAE. Example; A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter or 0.001 mm, or in SAE about 0.000039 inch.
0.000039 inch ? Absurd at best. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 9:10:10 AM EDT
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Eggs here are ten packs, not dozens. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 9:58:20 AM EDT
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Celsius is arguably the best part of the metric system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck metric, and fuck Celsius.
Celsius is arguably the best part of the metric system. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:20:37 AM EDT
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I'm in favor of it, but I work with it every day. I wish food boxes or recipes would list metric measurements as well.
It just makes sense. 1 mL = 1 cc = 1 g After almost 25 years in a lab, I know what 1L or 50 mL looks like. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:28:48 AM EDT
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Eggs here are ten packs, not dozens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I did purchasing in Spain for the Marine Corps. I simply forgot about inches and feet for projects I was putting up for bids. Threw out my sae tape measure and used a metric one. Once you stop trying to convert it it is simple. As I learned Spanish at the same time if speaking Spanish I use metric. Guy at the Taco Truck asked where I was from and told him 90 km from here to the east. He laughed and asked why I didn't use miles. I simply never learned the words as they weren't used in Spain. A two liter hug of milk is close enough to a half gallon as to be no difference at all. We already drink beer in 33cl containers anyhow. A dozen eggs is a dozen eggs. To get proficient at it you stop trying to convert and just go with it. The new LT who signed off on my paperwork was confused about the measurements on the contract for bars on the windows. I told him I just used a metric tape measure and I didn't really know how many feet and inches it was. The First Sergeant who was s crusty old bastard told the LT that the contractors didn't care how many Argents (old French measure of distance still used on continental horse tracks) it was from the shop to the base either. Europe as well. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:36:26 AM EDT
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Same here. Europe as well. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:37:07 AM EDT
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Bar |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:40:56 AM EDT
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The "foot" is a useful length, centimeter is too small and meter is too big. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 10:51:32 AM EDT
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Well WTF is 285?! 
All I'm saying is L x W x H makes the most sense when dealing with dimensions and such. At least for us Americans anyways.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On the surface but is 75% of 285 hard to understand? It's how tall the sidewall is. I do understand the frustration though.
All I'm saying is L x W x H makes the most sense when dealing with dimensions and such. At least for us Americans anyways. (Divide 285 by 25.4 (mm/inch)). 11.22 inches wide by 32.83 inches tall (for a 16 inch wheel) 11.22*.75*2+16=32.83 |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:01:00 AM EDT
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That's actually one of the best reasons I've seen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "foot" is a useful length, centimeter is too small and meter is too big. I am 183 cm tall. Anyone familiar with that can quickly grasp it, despite the size of the number. It's just short of two decimeters short of 2 meters. 30 more than 1.5 meters, etc. 2 meters is a tall dude. 10 centimeters is roughly a man's fist. Meanwhile, feet and inches often causes problems. I've seen a lot of Americans have problems converting 6 ft to 72 inches. And, an inch is too large of a unit for precise height measurement, so a lot of folks do the "half inch" thing. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:06:48 AM EDT
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The biggest problem in SAE is multiple units of non-base-10 makes things a real fucking headache. WHY do people use feet-inches, instead of decimal feet. Same for weights. Oh your AR weights 7lbs 5 1/2 oz. Why not just say 7.4 lbs?? structural detailing is the worst, spot checking to make sure dimensions add up is a unnessisary chore... add 4' 11 7/16" + 1 4 3/4" + 11 13/32" + 13/32". Does that equal 6' 7 1/2" OAL? 
or, if it had been done in metric, add 1434mm + 245mm + 23mm + 125mm Does that equal 2032mm OAL? Much easier to check right? (numbers made up, but which one of these is more likely to be entered incorrectly in your calculator) Seems what really holds us up is construction and building industries. BUT MUH 16" O.C. jesus just do 40 or 40.5cm close enough and to be fair, alot of supposedly metric countries are NOT 100%. They still use miles and mph in the UK for road, and I will say that Fahrenheit does work as a nice 0-100 scale for the weather, 0= really cold and 100 = really hot, any deviations <0 or >100 = off the scale deadly, avoid. 
We also use the the same units for discharge measurements, in ft and tenths to get a discharge in CFS (cubic feet per second - approx 448.8 gpm) Of course we then measure the temperature in centigrade
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:18:52 AM EDT
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And it's an absolutely nonsensical reason for anyone used to centimeters. You guys say this due to lack of familiarity. I am 183 cm tall. Anyone familiar with that can quickly grasp it, despite the size of the number. It's just short of two decimeters short of 2 meters. 30 more than 1.5 meters, etc. 2 meters is a tall dude. 10 centimeters is roughly a man's fist. Meanwhile, feet and inches often causes problems. I've seen a lot of Americans have problems converting 6 ft to 72 inches. And, an inch is two large of a unit for precise height measurement, so a lot of folks do the "half inch" thing. I am not joking when I say that metric is for simpletons. I've known many people who've grown up with the Imperial system work with metric easily. I've seen some of the best and brightest from Germany struggle after over a year in country trying to determine how large a 12oz steak is. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:21:34 AM EDT
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In hydrology I use decimal feet (engineers scale) for depth to water. The feet are divided into tenths and hundredths. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QDbKqJztFo4/hqdefault.jpg We also use the the same units for discharge measurements, in ft and tenths to get a discharge in CFS (cubic feet per second - approx 448.8 gpm) Of course we then measure the temperature in centigrade  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:28:55 AM EDT
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The world over, the length of ones dick is expressed in inches. Why? 'Merica, that's why. The US was wise not to let her competitors slow her along the way to greatness with the adoption of some other, arbitrarialy defined units of measure. Units of measure might be styled for users' convenience, but every unit of measure is arbitrary. I've tried to think of a unit of physical measure not arbitrarliy defined, but can't. Seriously: why not define the arc measure of a circle as 100 or 1000 -whatevers? Why not define the length of one day in 100 whatevers? The answer to those questions is the logic behind why the US didn't bother adopting some other arbitrarly defined units of measure.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:38:46 AM EDT
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Do you honestly think the USA couldn't have made it to the Moon if it used the metric system????  
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:40:43 AM EDT
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The decimeter doesn't exist? |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:45:51 AM EDT
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Personally, I think we should go back to the cubit.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:51:04 AM EDT
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For those of you that manage to read this far before posting -
There is no such measurement system as SAE. The SAE sets down some standards for thread dimensions and similar matters. It does not define a system of measures, the SAE uses the US Customary System, which is similar to the Imperial System of measures, and simultaneously, the SI system of measure. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 11:59:40 AM EDT
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For those of you that manage to read this far before posting - There is no such measurement system as SAE. The SAE sets down some standards for thread dimensions and similar matters. It does not define a system of measures, the SAE uses the US Customary System, which is similar to the Imperial System of measures, and simultaneously, the SI system of measure. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:08:02 PM EDT
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The problem has nothing to do with the base of the counting system.
I can specify a weight as 0.001 pounds-force, or as 0.001 Newtons. Same with dimensions, 13.753 meters, 13.753 yards. The key there is understanding the definitions of those four measures. Want to talk about milli-inches? We can do that, too. "Milli" has a definition separate from an SI measurement system. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:14:29 PM EDT
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The problem has nothing to do with the base of the counting system. I can specify a weight as 0.001 pounds-force, or as 0.001 Newtons. Same with dimensions, 13.753 meters, 13.753 yards. The key there is understanding the definitions of those four measures. Want to talk about milli-inches? We can do that, too. "Milli" has a definition separate from an SI measurement system. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:20:36 PM EDT
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I'm weak and couldn't resist. I'll give myself a day off on Friday, I'm going to be installing a generator transfer panel and a sub panel, and need to decide the horsepower of electricity I want to supply to run my well and a few appliances.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:26:10 PM EDT
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Metric is awesome but sae is here to stay. We machine in thousandths here even if it's a metric part. Metric is much simpler, know what's one bigger than a 12mm wrench? Know what's one bigger than a 7/16s? Eta...damn |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:40:03 PM EDT
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So do they sell eggs in 10 packs in metric countries? Beer in 10 packs?
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:50:14 PM EDT
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I'm pro metric, any measurement system that goes down to a micron (one thousandth of a millimeter) and divisible by 10 has got to be easier to grasp and work with than the same measurement in SAE. Example; A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter or 0.001 mm, or in SAE about 0.000039 inch. 0.000039 inch ? Absurd at best. Anybody who matters knows what that is. 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:52:10 PM EDT
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Same here. Europe as well. I do 3 egg omelets. So, what am I supposed to do with the extra egg? 
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:54:00 PM EDT
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And it's an absolutely nonsensical reason for anyone used to centimeters. You guys say this due to lack of familiarity. I am 183 cm tall. Anyone familiar with that can quickly grasp it, despite the size of the number. It's just short of two decimeters short of 2 meters. 30 more than 1.5 meters, etc. 2 meters is a tall dude. 10 centimeters is roughly a man's fist. Meanwhile, feet and inches often causes problems. I've seen a lot of Americans have problems converting 6 ft to 72 inches. And, an inch is two large of a unit for precise height measurement, so a lot of folks do the "half inch" thing. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:55:01 PM EDT
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Metric is absolutely the way to go. The problem comes from having our feet in both systems. One or the other please.
Metric makes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sense. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 1:03:21 PM EDT
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See my edit. The decimeter is trash and nobody uses it |
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