![Bravo Company BCM](/images/2016/banners/sticky/BCM_StickyBarAd_225x40.gif)
![Login](/images/2016/spacer.gif)
http://rationalgun.blogspot.com
"Bathe her and bring her to me. Save the bathwater."-hockey sew |
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
I picked up a generator before all this. I got it for $400 so technically it's a budget buy. It was pretty much brand new. It has electric start but the battery was dead. Started first pull every time. It's a Craftsman with an 11hp Briggs and Stratton. 6300 running watts and 9100 surge. I powered my fridge, a 10,000btu portable AC for my room, and some lights. Meter showed it was only a 20% load and I got about 18-20 hours off of the 7 gallon tank. The guy I bought it from gave me 2 heavy duty special cords for it and I looked them up. They were about $150-160 a piece. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/262514/IMG_2669_JPG-299273.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/262514/IMG_2670_JPG-299271.jpg View Quote ![]() <-- knows what an 11hp Tecumseh sounds like ![]() |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
I like my Glocks like I like my women; 19, hard bodied, and in my pants. - NY_Shooter
NorCal Callsign: Hooligan |
.40 S&W Supreme Leader & Dictator for Life
![]() ![]()
![]() ![]() |
I heart this thread
|
End the Political Establishment
Communists & Socialists aren't people |
Is the Predator 2000 really a Yamaha clone or a Honda clone?
|
|
|
|
Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
I'd say more of a Yamaha clone based on the engine size alone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
|
"Band-Aids don't fix bullet holes" - Taylor Swift
|
|
I got a little power meter from Amazon. This one.
|
|
Team Ranstad
Proudly Deplorable |
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Is the Predator 2000 really a Yamaha clone or a Honda clone? View Quote Take it for what it is worth... Joeak74 Joeak74 6 months ago Great job on making the video Mike! I have two of these generators (so I can parallel two of them) and they are incredible generators! They are a copy of the Yamaha EF2000IS, and a "Red" version of the "wen 56200i". The engine is a clone of the Yamaha EF200Is's MZ80 engine (80cc). It has a cast iron liner, forged rocker arms, and does NOT use a fuel pump like Honda's EU2000I. One less failure point. A well designed and long lasting engine. It also has a fuel gauge like the Yamaha (i know you know this), and you CAN shut off the fuel to the carburetor and run the carburetor dry by putting the "Off, Run, Start" switch right between the "Off " and 'Run" positions. That way you never have to worry about having fuel sit in the carb and get old. This information is in the "Wen 56200I" manual. Just put it between the two positions, run it dry , and then turn it to "OFF".You can't do this with the Honda (unfortunately). The stator is also copper wound and a quality unit. I would recommend getting a aluminum magnetic dipstick/drain tube kit for it, and an hour meter (easily installed). These are the same parts that the Yamaha EF2000IS uses. This generator does produce a "Clean Sine Wave", and is safe for all your sensitive electronics. One last thing... the box states 66 decibels of noise which is incorrect. It has to be a typo. Its much less than that. This predator generator is VERY,VERY quiet.I've tested it with a basic sound meter and multiple apps downloaded on a galaxy 7s. There are no industry standards that I know of for generator decibel tests, but I believe that most tests are taken in the middle of an open field with no wind at 25 feet and ambient noise level of about 30-40 decibels. When I tested mine, I was getting 53-57 decibels 3 feet in front of the unit (esc switch on), 30-40 decibels at 25 feet away from the side of the unit (ESC switch on), and 53-57 decibels about 3 feet from the back (exhaust) side. When I would go back to the front of the unit and turn OFF the ESC switch and stand 3 feet away I would get about 62 decibels. Obviously the more load on it the more noise produced. these readings are with the ESC ON, which is equivalent to about a quarter load (up to 400 watts) I'll update after another test at a higher load... say around 1200 watts. I use to own a Honda EU2000IS, and they are awesome,, just not $1000 awesome. $2 a watt is ridiculous. This predator is VERY quiet, extremely durable, produces clean power, and won't break your wallet. I get just under 14 hours of run time on a tank of fuel with a 300 watt load. One last thing i would like to add ...The Honda EU2000 is now made in (memory)Thailand or Malaysia, and the Yamaha EF2000IS is now made in China. Both made in ISO 9001compliant factories. |
|
Have fun...shoot often...
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." –– Mark Twain NRA Endowment Member |
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
I’m gonna build an enclosure for it with acoustic panels to help with the noise and protect it from the elements. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By danpass:
PARDON ME, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? ![]() <-- knows what an 11hp Tecumseh sounds like ![]() Part of my plan was to use those heavy foam workmats stapled/glued to plywood. Cheaper than dynamat. |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By onealphay2k:
Thanks! I bought one. $329 shipped to FL is hard to beat. Looks like Westinghouse sells the same one with good reviews. I bought the HF one last week but haven't opened the box yet. Once this one arrives in good shape I am going to return the HF and save $100. I did notice that the seller has horrible feedback, but I am willing to take my chances. eBay always sides with the buyer. I am in no rush so I will play this out if necessary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By onealphay2k:
Originally Posted By uwp:
Originally Posted By BIKECOP29:
Originally Posted By GLHX2112:
I'm seriously considering ordering one of those too, since it looks like its a clone of the Predator... $359 with free shipping and no taxes.... that kicks the shit out of the HF deal for the same Gen. Pretty solid reviews on Amazon and Newegg. a clone of a clone for the duromax on ebay for $330 and free shipping and no tax(?)? Quip-All 2,200 Watt Gas Portable Inverter Generator (CARB) 2200I http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quip-All-2-200-Watt-Gas-Portable-Inverter-Generator-CARB-2200I-New-/282606848712 apparently from this company near Atlanta: http://www.cpooutlets.com/quip-all-2200i-2-200-watt-gas-portable-inverter-generator--carb-/qpln2200i,default,pd.html who collects tax in (if purchasing direct from them I guess): California, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi and Tennessee ![]() |
|
|
Originally Posted By danpass:
I had considered a similar plan but didn't follow through. Part of my plan was to use those heavy foam workmats stapled/glued to plywood. Cheaper than dynamat. View Quote |
|
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite forum on the Citadel.
|
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Building your own enclosure for a generator not designed with one, don’t you have to worry about heat build-up and airflow? Or is it basically the same engine, just with no cover? View Quote |
|
|
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite forum on the Citadel.
|
Well I got my magnetic drain plugs and some "alternative" plugs to get rid of the "Torch" plug that is in the Pred2000.
Which plug should I use the Champion or the Denso? ![]() |
|
Have fun...shoot often...
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." –– Mark Twain NRA Endowment Member |
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
I stole this from a Youtube video response... Take it for what it is worth... Joeak74 Joeak74 6 months ago Great job on making the video Mike! I have two of these generators (so I can parallel two of them) and they are incredible generators! They are a copy of the Yamaha EF2000IS, and a "Red" version of the "wen 56200i". The engine is a clone of the Yamaha EF200Is's MZ80 engine (80cc). It has a cast iron liner, forged rocker arms, and does NOT use a fuel pump like Honda's EU2000I. One less failure point. A well designed and long lasting engine. It also has a fuel gauge like the Yamaha (i know you know this), and you CAN shut off the fuel to the carburetor and run the carburetor dry by putting the "Off, Run, Start" switch right between the "Off " and 'Run" positions. That way you never have to worry about having fuel sit in the carb and get old. This information is in the "Wen 56200I" manual. Just put it between the two positions, run it dry , and then turn it to "OFF".You can't do this with the Honda (unfortunately). The stator is also copper wound and a quality unit. I would recommend getting a aluminum magnetic dipstick/drain tube kit for it, and an hour meter (easily installed). These are the same parts that the Yamaha EF2000IS uses. This generator does produce a "Clean Sine Wave", and is safe for all your sensitive electronics. One last thing... the box states 66 decibels of noise which is incorrect. It has to be a typo. Its much less than that. This predator generator is VERY,VERY quiet.I've tested it with a basic sound meter and multiple apps downloaded on a galaxy 7s. There are no industry standards that I know of for generator decibel tests, but I believe that most tests are taken in the middle of an open field with no wind at 25 feet and ambient noise level of about 30-40 decibels. When I tested mine, I was getting 53-57 decibels 3 feet in front of the unit (esc switch on), 30-40 decibels at 25 feet away from the side of the unit (ESC switch on), and 53-57 decibels about 3 feet from the back (exhaust) side. When I would go back to the front of the unit and turn OFF the ESC switch and stand 3 feet away I would get about 62 decibels. Obviously the more load on it the more noise produced. these readings are with the ESC ON, which is equivalent to about a quarter load (up to 400 watts) I'll update after another test at a higher load... say around 1200 watts. I use to own a Honda EU2000IS, and they are awesome,, just not $1000 awesome. $2 a watt is ridiculous. This predator is VERY quiet, extremely durable, produces clean power, and won't break your wallet. I get just under 14 hours of run time on a tank of fuel with a 300 watt load. One last thing i would like to add ...The Honda EU2000 is now made in (memory)Thailand or Malaysia, and the Yamaha EF2000IS is now made in China. Both made in ISO 9001compliant factories. View Quote |
|
|
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Building your own enclosure for a generator not designed with one, don’t you have to worry about heat build-up and airflow? Or is it basically the same engine, just with no cover? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Originally Posted By danpass:
I had considered a similar plan but didn't follow through. Part of my plan was to use those heavy foam workmats stapled/glued to plywood. Cheaper than dynamat. Add a couple in-line, 6" duct fans moving air OUT & horizontally at the top of said box. Plug them into the generator via a pig - tailed plug. Install a couple / three soffit vents. One over each fan and one or two down low ( for intake ). Locate a metal, threaded floor flange on the box where it would meet up with the Benny's exhaust and add the appropriate length pipe to eject the genny's exhaust out of the box. I built one of these for my Yamaha inverter 2800 back in '07 or '08 because the mfr said to NOT run it in the rain. I attached the 2800 and 2' X 4' box to a 2" receiver so it would power my RV while running down the road or stationary. Worked like a charm, but it was too heavy for one guy to install in the receiver. Our needs changed so I disassembled the box. |
|
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does. |
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Well I got my magnetic drain plugs and some "alternative" plugs to get rid of the "Torch" plug that is in the Pred2000. Which plug should I use the Champion or the Denso? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/142497/Plugs-319166.JPG View Quote |
|
Team Ranstad
Proudly Deplorable |
Originally Posted By Truman_Sparks:
Where did you get the drain plug? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Truman_Sparks:
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Well I got my magnetic drain plugs and some "alternative" plugs to get rid of the "Torch" plug that is in the Pred2000. Which plug should I use the Champion or the Denso? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/142497/Plugs-319166.JPG https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Ef2000iS-Magnetic-Oil-Dipstick/dp/B004DMQ85W |
|
Have fun...shoot often...
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." –– Mark Twain NRA Endowment Member |
Originally Posted By Bones45:
Oddly, the manuals for all their generators specify stabilizer treated gas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bones45:
Originally Posted By Stoop:
Originally Posted By SKWEE-G:
In three days we used 6 gallons of fuel. We have 15 gal on hand and would have been good for a while. Ended up running out of sta-bil which is a requirement per the warranty info in the manual |
|
|
.40 S&W Supreme Leader & Dictator for Life
![]() ![]()
![]() ![]() |
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
I stole this from a Youtube video response... Take it for what it is worth... Joeak74 Joeak74 6 months ago Great job on making the video Mike! I have two of these generators (so I can parallel two of them) and they are incredible generators! They are a copy of the Yamaha EF2000IS, and a "Red" version of the "wen 56200i". The engine is a clone of the Yamaha EF200Is's MZ80 engine (80cc). It has a cast iron liner, forged rocker arms, and does NOT use a fuel pump like Honda's EU2000I. One less failure point. A well designed and long lasting engine. It also has a fuel gauge like the Yamaha (i know you know this), and you CAN shut off the fuel to the carburetor and run the carburetor dry by putting the "Off, Run, Start" switch right between the "Off " and 'Run" positions. That way you never have to worry about having fuel sit in the carb and get old. This information is in the "Wen 56200I" manual. Just put it between the two positions, run it dry , and then turn it to "OFF".You can't do this with the Honda (unfortunately). The stator is also copper wound and a quality unit. I would recommend getting a aluminum magnetic dipstick/drain tube kit for it, and an hour meter (easily installed). These are the same parts that the Yamaha EF2000IS uses. This generator does produce a "Clean Sine Wave", and is safe for all your sensitive electronics. One last thing... the box states 66 decibels of noise which is incorrect. It has to be a typo. Its much less than that. This predator generator is VERY,VERY quiet.I've tested it with a basic sound meter and multiple apps downloaded on a galaxy 7s. There are no industry standards that I know of for generator decibel tests, but I believe that most tests are taken in the middle of an open field with no wind at 25 feet and ambient noise level of about 30-40 decibels. When I tested mine, I was getting 53-57 decibels 3 feet in front of the unit (esc switch on), 30-40 decibels at 25 feet away from the side of the unit (ESC switch on), and 53-57 decibels about 3 feet from the back (exhaust) side. When I would go back to the front of the unit and turn OFF the ESC switch and stand 3 feet away I would get about 62 decibels. Obviously the more load on it the more noise produced. these readings are with the ESC ON, which is equivalent to about a quarter load (up to 400 watts) I'll update after another test at a higher load... say around 1200 watts. I use to own a Honda EU2000IS, and they are awesome,, just not $1000 awesome. $2 a watt is ridiculous. This predator is VERY quiet, extremely durable, produces clean power, and won't break your wallet. I get just under 14 hours of run time on a tank of fuel with a 300 watt load. One last thing i would like to add ...The Honda EU2000 is now made in (memory)Thailand or Malaysia, and the Yamaha EF2000IS is now made in China. Both made in ISO 9001compliant factories. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Is the Predator 2000 really a Yamaha clone or a Honda clone? Take it for what it is worth... Joeak74 Joeak74 6 months ago Great job on making the video Mike! I have two of these generators (so I can parallel two of them) and they are incredible generators! They are a copy of the Yamaha EF2000IS, and a "Red" version of the "wen 56200i". The engine is a clone of the Yamaha EF200Is's MZ80 engine (80cc). It has a cast iron liner, forged rocker arms, and does NOT use a fuel pump like Honda's EU2000I. One less failure point. A well designed and long lasting engine. It also has a fuel gauge like the Yamaha (i know you know this), and you CAN shut off the fuel to the carburetor and run the carburetor dry by putting the "Off, Run, Start" switch right between the "Off " and 'Run" positions. That way you never have to worry about having fuel sit in the carb and get old. This information is in the "Wen 56200I" manual. Just put it between the two positions, run it dry , and then turn it to "OFF".You can't do this with the Honda (unfortunately). The stator is also copper wound and a quality unit. I would recommend getting a aluminum magnetic dipstick/drain tube kit for it, and an hour meter (easily installed). These are the same parts that the Yamaha EF2000IS uses. This generator does produce a "Clean Sine Wave", and is safe for all your sensitive electronics. One last thing... the box states 66 decibels of noise which is incorrect. It has to be a typo. Its much less than that. This predator generator is VERY,VERY quiet.I've tested it with a basic sound meter and multiple apps downloaded on a galaxy 7s. There are no industry standards that I know of for generator decibel tests, but I believe that most tests are taken in the middle of an open field with no wind at 25 feet and ambient noise level of about 30-40 decibels. When I tested mine, I was getting 53-57 decibels 3 feet in front of the unit (esc switch on), 30-40 decibels at 25 feet away from the side of the unit (ESC switch on), and 53-57 decibels about 3 feet from the back (exhaust) side. When I would go back to the front of the unit and turn OFF the ESC switch and stand 3 feet away I would get about 62 decibels. Obviously the more load on it the more noise produced. these readings are with the ESC ON, which is equivalent to about a quarter load (up to 400 watts) I'll update after another test at a higher load... say around 1200 watts. I use to own a Honda EU2000IS, and they are awesome,, just not $1000 awesome. $2 a watt is ridiculous. This predator is VERY quiet, extremely durable, produces clean power, and won't break your wallet. I get just under 14 hours of run time on a tank of fuel with a 300 watt load. One last thing i would like to add ...The Honda EU2000 is now made in (memory)Thailand or Malaysia, and the Yamaha EF2000IS is now made in China. Both made in ISO 9001compliant factories. DRAINING THE FUEL TANK
Clean fuel tank each year or before storing the generator for extended periods of time. To drain the fuel tank and carburetor: 1. Set idle control switch to “ON” position. Start generator without any device connected to it. Turn the fuel valve to “off” position while the engine is running until it stops. This burns out the fuel in the carburetor and fuel line. 2. Set the vacuum relief valve on top of the fuel cap to “OFF” position. Drain oil from the crankcase (refer to “changing/adding oil” section of this manual). 3. Remove the fuel cap; carefully turn the generator over to pour the gasoline in the fuel tank to appropriate con-tainer. 4. Once fuel is drained, reinstall the fuel cap. 5. Store the emptied gasoline in a suitable place. |
End the Political Establishment
Communists & Socialists aren't people |
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Building your own enclosure for a generator not designed with one, don’t you have to worry about heat build-up and airflow? Or is it basically the same engine, just with no cover? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Originally Posted By danpass:
I had considered a similar plan but didn't follow through. Part of my plan was to use those heavy foam workmats stapled/glued to plywood. Cheaper than dynamat. One side was simply a box fan lol, the opposite side half open (exhaust), two closed ends, a closed top. I didn't feel it gained much to quiet it down with that caveman open frame design and the heat the sucker put out. Less hassle to just buy the Champion Inverter 2800/3100 ![]() |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Pot growers use to build a 3 ft wall out of straw bales to help muffle sound. This directed the noise up and still allowed ventilation. Saw this at remote grow operations on farms.
|
|
|
e-trailer has the A-I Power 1600W/200W Inverter generator (with the 30A twistlock outlet) for $399 shipped.
This is the one that was out of stock at Home Depot. https://www.etrailer.com/Generators/A-iPower/289-SUA2000i.html?feed=npn This one has a Chinese motor (Senci) and is a copy of the Yamaha powered A-I Power 1600W/2000W. Has iron cylinder sleeve. 2 year parts warranty. Same price as the HF with a coupon. No tax. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. |
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
e-trailer has the A-I Power 1600W/200W Inverter generator (with the 30A twistlock outlet) for $399 shipped. This is the one that was out of stock at Home Depot. https://www.etrailer.com/Generators/A-iPower/289-SUA2000i.html?feed=npn This one has a Chinese motor (Senci) and is a copy of the Yamaha powered A-I Power 1600W/2000W. Has iron cylinder sleeve. 2 year parts warranty. Same price as the HF with a coupon. No tax. https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_16_1000.jpg https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_39_1000.jpg https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_43_1000.jpg View Quote Does it use a fuel pump? Will it output 30A by itself? for some reason I'm thinking the Honda Companion does not (despite also having an L5-30R) |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By danpass:
that chit has a 30A twist lock! Does it use a fuel pump? Will it output 30A by itself? for some reason I'm thinking the Honda Companion does not (despite also having an L5-30R) View Quote Does the Yamaha have one? If yes I'd Assume yes. Etrailer has two vids on that genny. They might mention it. It puts out the same as the HF or Honda EU2000. 1600W continuous 2000W peak. And is parallelable. A pair of them is $799. They come with parallel cables. It's similar to the Honda EU2000 companion with the built in twist lock. You can parallel it and don't need a separate combiner box for the full 26A output. Also, if you have a 30A inlet into an interlock panel, you can hook up a single genny directly via that plug. The Twist locks are nice because they are more secure and less likely to fall out or be kicked out. I'm seriously toying with getting one. |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Don't know about a fuel pump. Does the Yamaha have one? If yes I'd Assume yes. Etrailer has two vids on that genny. They might mention it. It puts out the same as the HF or Honda EU2000. 1600W continuous 2000W peak. And is parallelable. A pair of them is $799. They come with parallel cables. It's similar to the Honda EU2000 companion with the built in twist lock. You can parallel it and don't need a separate combiner box for the full 26A output. Also, if you have a 30A inlet into an interlock panel, you can hook up a single genny directly via that plug. The Twist locks are nice because they are more secure and less likely to fall out or be kicked out. I'm seriously toying with getting one. View Quote 2000/120 = 16.6A. So that's the most a single could do. Two = 3200 running = 26.6A. So it would have to be two to get the amps up there. I did notice in the listing though .... 65dB. That's 6dB higher than the Honda ... definitely moving into the 'damn, another genny is running' territory. |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
e-trailer has the A-I Power 1600W/200W Inverter generator (with the 30A twistlock outlet) for $399 shipped. This is the one that was out of stock at Home Depot. https://www.etrailer.com/Generators/A-iPower/289-SUA2000i.html?feed=npn This one has a Chinese motor (Senci) and is a copy of the Yamaha powered A-I Power 1600W/2000W. Has iron cylinder sleeve. 2 year parts warranty. Same price as the HF with a coupon. No tax. https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_16_1000.jpg https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_39_1000.jpg https://www.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/2/8/289-SUA2000i_43_1000.jpg View Quote ![]() In the end, I chickened out having never heard of A-Ipower or being able to find anything about the company. Preferred Champion's 3 year warranty and lifetime support. |
|
|
Originally Posted By danpass:
ok, I did the math. .... I did notice in the listing though .... 65dB. That's 6dB higher than the Honda ... definitely moving into the 'damn, another genny is running' territory. View Quote Interesting observation on the noise factor. That places it above the HF. It seems like a large jump though from 61dB to 65dB, over twice as loud. I wonder if that's on eco mode or not. I see the videos for the AI Power are a lot in European/Australian locations. The Youtube vids comparing the HF to the Hondas show the HF is quieter. But that's the 3500W model and the Honda 3500W is quieter than the 2000W. Makes the Northern Tool version (with 30A twist lock) at $599 and 52dB more attractive. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200623983_200623983 With 30A twist lock outlets Honda Companion 52dB $850 (what I paid on sale) Parallel cables extra Northern Tool 52dB $599 Parallel cables included A-iPower Yamaha 65dB $499 Parallel cables included A-iPower Senci 65dB $399 Parallel cables included Harbor Freight 61dB $399 (with coupon until the 30th) but no 30A outlet. Hmmmmm Harbor Freight is looking good again. With tax it's be $440 out the door vs $400 delivered for the Ai Power. |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Have mine breaking in with a 18" fan plugged in. It's pretty quiet, the fan is almost just as loud. Ordered some Sta-bil and the magnetic drain plug.
|
|
|
My plan from the beginning of this thread has been to get a 2nd Predator 2000 and HF's parallel box/outlet. My first Predator seems great, very VERY quiet, broke-in fine, but really need that 30 amp outlet like the above A-iPower (Senci motor) @ 65dB for $399...no parallel kit required since it has a 30 amp twist-lock plug built in.
Still have a couple more days to jump on the HF Predator 2000 deal. Hmmm.... |
|
|
Originally Posted By slack_out:
My plan from the beginning of this thread has been to get a 2nd Predator 2000 and HF's parallel box/outlet. My first Predator seems great, very VERY quiet, broke-in fine, but really need that 30 amp outlet like the above A-iPower (Senci motor) @ 65dB for $399...no parallel kit required since it has a 30 amp twist-lock plug built in. Still have a couple more days to jump on the HF Predator 2000 deal. Hmmm.... View Quote ![]() |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Same math as the Hondas or the HF/Wen, etc. Interesting observation on the noise factor. That places it above the HF. It seems like a large jump though from 61dB to 65dB, over twice as loud. I wonder if that's on eco mode or not. I see the videos for the AI Power are a lot in European/Australian locations. [snip] View Quote |
|
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite forum on the Citadel.
|
Why would you need/want a 30a twistlock on a 2000w genny? Serious question.
|
|
.
|
Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Why would you need/want a 30a twistlock on a 2000w genny? Serious question. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Why would you need/want a 30a twistlock on a 2000w genny? Serious question. You can parallel it and don't need a separate combiner box for the full 26A output.
Also, if you have a 30A inlet into an interlock panel, you can hook up a single genny directly via that plug. The Twist locks are nice because they are more secure and less likely to fall out or be kicked out. If you intend to hook it up to a house electrical system via an interlock or an RV, it gives you a lot of options. If you only buy one Honda, or buy them one at a time, I'd get the Companion first. You don't need a third piece of equipment (paralleling panel) to hook up the generators together and get the full 26A output. |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Ten decibels higher is twice as loud. Four decibels is about 20% louder, IIRC. View Quote Perceptible changes, subjectively "louder" usually occur at 6dB increments. 3dB is theoretically "twice as loud" because it is a doubling of power. 6dB is measured as "twice as loud" because it is twice the output voltage or amplitude. 10dB is subjectively "twice as loud" - perceived as such by the ear/brain. ![]() |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
From my post 8 posts above: It's just like the Honda EU2000i Companion. If you intend to hook it up to a house electrical system via an interlock or an RV, it gives you a lot of options. If you only buy one Honda, or buy them one at a time, I'd get the Companion first. You don't need a third piece of equipment (paralleling panel) to hook up the generators together and get the full 26A output. View Quote I need to get a genny, I'm just trying to figure out what features I actually need. |
|
.
|
Originally Posted By itstock:
My Quip-all is in. ![]() If I have time this weekend, I'll do a side by side with my Honda EU2000i but I am fairly certain that the quip all is QUIETER in eco mode, about the same in normal mode. This is under no load for both. I'm impressed with the Quip-all, and hopefully it lasts longer than my one EU2000i that died after 30 hours. ![]() My initial impressions are that this Quip-all feels just as solid as my Honda, but the engine will tell the truth in the end. I'm fairly certain that I will be purchasing a second one. VIDEO TO COME Vertical video warning ![]() ![]() ![]() View Quote ![]() |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By danpass:
Scepter RV520S gas can for the win ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By danpass:
Originally Posted By itstock:
My Quip-all is in. ![]() If I have time this weekend, I'll do a side by side with my Honda EU2000i but I am fairly certain that the quip all is QUIETER in eco mode, about the same in normal mode. This is under no load for both. I'm impressed with the Quip-all, and hopefully it lasts longer than my one EU2000i that died after 30 hours. ![]() My initial impressions are that this Quip-all feels just as solid as my Honda, but the engine will tell the truth in the end. I'm fairly certain that I will be purchasing a second one. VIDEO TO COME Vertical video warning ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
If you're paralleling with the 30a twistlock then now you don't have a way to 30a twistlock back into your house panel...right? So, kind of a moot point? I need to get a genny, I'm just trying to figure out what features I actually need. View Quote Single generator hook into the house with the twist lock - no adapter from 20A non locking to 30A twist lock needed. or Parallel with the parallel cables through the parallel ports and hook into the house with the twist lock - no parallel panel needed. or Parallel with a suicide cable between the 20A standard outlets and hook into the house with the twist lock - no parallel panel needed. (That second option has some risk if the parallel cable is kicked loose since it would be live from the other still running generator). OR Replace the dual 20A outlet with a dual NEMA L5-15R, Parallel through the L5-15R ports with a twist lock suicide cable and hook into the house with the twist lock - no parallel panel needed. OR Build a multi place parallel panel, parallel the 3 generators via the twist lock into a combiner box with a 50A circuit breaker and output 39A from that box to a 50A inlet. I like the cable security of the twist locks. |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
Originally Posted By itstock:
My Quip-all is in. ![]() If I have time this weekend, I'll do a side by side with my Honda EU2000i but I am fairly certain that the quip all is QUIETER in eco mode, about the same in normal mode. This is under no load for both. I'm impressed with the Quip-all, and hopefully it lasts longer than my one EU2000i that died after 30 hours. ![]() My initial impressions are that this Quip-all feels just as solid as my Honda, but the engine will tell the truth in the end. I'm fairly certain that I will be purchasing a second one. VIDEO TO COME Vertical video warning ![]() ![]() ![]() View Quote |
|
Grab life by the pussy!
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling |
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Is that the $329 one? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By itstock:
My Quip-all is in. ![]() If I have time this weekend, I'll do a side by side with my Honda EU2000i but I am fairly certain that the quip all is QUIETER in eco mode, about the same in normal mode. This is under no load for both. I'm impressed with the Quip-all, and hopefully it lasts longer than my one EU2000i that died after 30 hours. ![]() My initial impressions are that this Quip-all feels just as solid as my Honda, but the engine will tell the truth in the end. I'm fairly certain that I will be purchasing a second one. VIDEO TO COME Vertical video warning ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
I have funnels, a couple of Super Easy Siphons (with the glass ball) and now I'm looking at this thing to use it with a 15 gallon HDPE drum
Thoughts? Action Pump siphon ![]() |
|
www.danpassaro.com
|
Originally Posted By danpass:
I have funnels, a couple of Super Easy Siphons (with the glass ball) and now I'm looking at this thing to use it with a 15 gallon HDPE drum Thoughts? Action Pump siphon https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61xC8l%2BRa0L._SL1500_.jpg View Quote |
|
|
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
From here... https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Ef2000iS-Magnetic-Oil-Dipstick/dp/B004DMQ85W View Quote |
|
Team Ranstad
Proudly Deplorable |
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.