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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:17:52 PM EDT
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Good.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:18:46 PM EDT
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I'm not prepared to take his word for it.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:03 PM EDT
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Good. Price of doing business in the era of strong encryption. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:10 PM EDT
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Is this their way of demanding access via back doors?
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:40 PM EDT
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Good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:49 PM EDT
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My heart bleeds for them.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:54 PM EDT
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Hey FBI, there's a whole nest of Pedos in Hollywood and DC. They're pretty open about it too. Doubt you'd have to do any hackerman stuff to catch them. Go catch those guys and we'll talk.
P.S. The answer will still be no you statist fucks. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:20:56 PM EDT
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Is this their way of demanding access via back doors? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:21:56 PM EDT
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That makes me moist.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:22:49 PM EDT
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They have it wrong. They can access the devices... they just can't interpret the data on them.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:23:31 PM EDT
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I'm not prepared to take his word for it. Being unable to access roughly half the cell phones is basically my experience - although that wasn't necessarily always due to the latest / greatest uber-encryption from Apple or Google. Lots of bad guys use shitty Chinese clone burner phones that are a pain in the ass to access due to tool compatibility reasons more than anything else... |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:23:41 PM EDT
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Is this their way of demanding access via back doors? Shirley you don't want the terrorists to win?? Something something trading Liberty something something........... |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:24:54 PM EDT
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Another run at the Clipper Chip.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:25:08 PM EDT
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Those stats would be easy to FOIA. Being unable to access roughly half the cell phones is basically my experience - although that wasn't necessarily always due to the latest / greatest uber-encryption from Apple or Google. Lots of bad guys use shitty Chinese clone burner phones that are a pain in the ass to access due to tool compatibility reasons more than anything else... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not prepared to take his word for it. Being unable to access roughly half the cell phones is basically my experience - although that wasn't necessarily always due to the latest / greatest uber-encryption from Apple or Google. Lots of bad guys use shitty Chinese clone burner phones that are a pain in the ass to access due to tool compatibility reasons more than anything else... |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:25:59 PM EDT
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Hey FBI, there's a whole nest of Pedos in Hollywood and DC. They're pretty open about it too. Doubt you'd have to do any hackerman stuff to catch them. Go catch those guys and we'll talk. P.S. The answer will still be no you statist fucks. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:28:34 PM EDT
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There's also some choices made in the words. I wonder how many of them they were able to obtain the information they were wanting through other avenues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not prepared to take his word for it. Being unable to access roughly half the cell phones is basically my experience - although that wasn't necessarily always due to the latest / greatest uber-encryption from Apple or Google. Lots of bad guys use shitty Chinese clone burner phones that are a pain in the ass to access due to tool compatibility reasons more than anything else... Bad Guy can have the latest / greatest uber-phone with unbreakable encryption. If the evidence the feds are looking for can be found in his Gmail account they are simply going to get a search warrant for the contents of that account held by Google. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:28:41 PM EDT
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Good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:29:21 PM EDT
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“To put it mildly, this is a huge, huge problem,” They act like the gov has an innate right to our communications. Statist fuck indeed. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:29:47 PM EDT
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They have it wrong. They can access the devices... they just can't interpret the data on them. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:29:56 PM EDT
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Good point. Depends on what they were wanting. Bad Guy can have the latest / greatest uber-phone with unbreakable encryption. If the evidence the feds are looking for can be found in his Gmail account they are simply going to get a search warrant for the contents of that account held by Google. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not prepared to take his word for it. Being unable to access roughly half the cell phones is basically my experience - although that wasn't necessarily always due to the latest / greatest uber-encryption from Apple or Google. Lots of bad guys use shitty Chinese clone burner phones that are a pain in the ass to access due to tool compatibility reasons more than anything else... Bad Guy can have the latest / greatest uber-phone with unbreakable encryption. If the evidence the feds are looking for can be found in his Gmail account they are simply going to get a search warrant for the contents of that account held by Google. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:30:44 PM EDT
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Good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:31:03 PM EDT
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Sometimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They have it wrong. They can access the devices... they just can't interpret the data on them. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:31:31 PM EDT
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FPNI.
“Ban privacy, it’s for the children!” |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:33:34 PM EDT
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Why not outlaw burning or hiding letters while they're at it?
From a book I read: "To the government, everything not under its control is out of control." |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:33:54 PM EDT
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Good
how many truecrypt containers/hidden containers can they access? Gov doesn't need to be able to crack everyone's hidden stuff. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:34:58 PM EDT
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Good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:35:27 PM EDT
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Interesting. I figured they had hacks for most of that stuff.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:35:44 PM EDT
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Good how many truecrypt containers/hidden containers can they access? Gov doesn't need to be able to crack everyone's hidden stuff. Thats why we had the above on our issued/personal laptops I know the SOCOM guys use it or something similar for their operational laptops. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:36:43 PM EDT
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe?
Im talking 7.0 and below. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:36:48 PM EDT
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Fpni
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:37:28 PM EDT
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Interesting. I figured they had hacks for most of that stuff. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Hey FBI, there's a whole nest of Pedos in Hollywood and DC. They're pretty open about it too. Doubt you'd have to do any hackerman stuff to catch them. Go catch those guys and we'll talk. P.S. The answer will still be no you CORRUPT fucks. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:38:17 PM EDT
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Within the DoD at least, data at rest protections are required for all |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:38:31 PM EDT
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe? Im talking 7.0 and below. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:39:04 PM EDT
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe? Im talking 7.0 and below. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:39:35 PM EDT
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe? Im talking 7.0 and below. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:39:56 PM EDT
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FPNI.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:40:14 PM EDT
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FPNI. “Ban privacy, it’s for the children!” Translation of OP's article: "These constitutionally-protected rights are a real problem; big government needs a "final solution" to these problematic rights!" |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:40:24 PM EDT
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https://apnews.com/04791dfbe30a4d3596e8d187b16d837e The FBI hasn’t been able to retrieve data from more than half of the mobile devices it tried to access in less than a year, FBI Director Christopher Wray said Sunday, turning up the heat on a debate between technology companies and law enforcement officials trying to recover encrypted communications.
In the first 11 months of the fiscal year, federal agents were unable to access the content of more than 6,900 mobile devices, Wray said in a speech at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Philadelphia. “To put it mildly, this is a huge, huge problem,” Wray said. “It impacts investigations across the board — narcotics, human trafficking, counterterrorism, counterintelligence, gangs, organized crime, child exploitation.” *or at least a solution that anyone's going to like and/or wouldn't be ridiculously easy to circumvent by the average user. Anyone who thinks intel types don't have backdoors are fooling themselves. They just don't tip their hand or show off their actual capability for petty stuff like homicide, drug / gun running, or theft. They save it for the big stuff. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:40:35 PM EDT
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Within the DoD at least, data at rest protections are required for all unclassified laptops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good how many truecrypt containers/hidden containers can they access? Gov doesn't need to be able to crack everyone's hidden stuff. Thats why we had the above on our issued/personal laptops I know the SOCOM guys use it or something similar for their operational laptops. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:42:08 PM EDT
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I think everyone is using veracrypt now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe? Im talking 7.0 and below. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:42:45 PM EDT
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Absolutely. Translation of OP's article: "These constitutionally-protected rights are a real problem; big government needs a "final solution" to these problematic rights!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FPNI. “Ban privacy, it’s for the children!” Translation of OP's article: "These constitutionally-protected rights are a real problem; big government needs a "final solution" to these problematic rights!" |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:43:56 PM EDT
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Interesting. I figured they had hacks for most of that stuff. They're not the only people on earth who get paid to do that either, nor do they have a monopoly on really clever and resourceful coders. 
If the FBI can work around it, so can anyone else. Ergo, my reply of "good" to the story. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:44:12 PM EDT
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I will ask the computer savvy guys, is truecrypt using a hidden container still safe? Im talking 7.0 and below. (Standing by the get flamed by some obscure Linux flavor zealot) 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:44:29 PM EDT
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Boo hoo...
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:46:15 PM EDT
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"Good enough" for probably 99.97 percent of the threat models out there... (Standing by the get flamed by some obscure Linux flavor zealot)
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:46:49 PM EDT
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Ok, I know for some things our G2 IMO Officer had to have copies of our truecrypt passwords for reg and hidden containers. If the above was true why would they need our passwords for our containers on the gov laptops? If they could access them why would they need our password? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:46:57 PM EDT
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Within the DoD at least, data at rest protections are required for all |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:47:43 PM EDT
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The only real hope they have (without manufacturer collusion) in something implemented properly, is finding an undiscovered and/or unpatched exploit. They're not the only people on earth who get paid to do that either, nor do they have a monopoly on really clever and resourceful coders.
If the FBI can work around it, so can anyone else. Ergo, my reply of "good" to the story. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. I figured they had hacks for most of that stuff. They're not the only people on earth who get paid to do that either, nor do they have a monopoly on really clever and resourceful coders.
If the FBI can work around it, so can anyone else. Ergo, my reply of "good" to the story. Of course, it's also assumed they have manufacturer collusion. |
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