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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:50:45 AM EDT
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One of the advantages of a tube fed shotgun is that you can top off the magazine at anytime.
I'll pass. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:50:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ridiculous R I diculous |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:54:09 AM EDT
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Shotguns are more fun and useful than most trannies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only thing GD is more obsessed with than shotguns is trannies. 
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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:56:07 AM EDT
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Somebody call the Kaiser, this could revolutionize trench warfare.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:00:24 AM EDT
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Horribly designed mags that only hold 6 shells So, no, they didn't "already did this" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt remington already do that? they also claimed to revolutionize the shotgun with it... So both Mossberg AND Remington were late to the party. http://www.blackacestactical.com/_p/prd3/4656851541/product/shockwave-magazine-fed-12-gauge! |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:01:19 AM EDT
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Shotguns are more fun and useful than most trannies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only thing GD is more obsessed with than shotguns is trannies. 
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:02:06 AM EDT
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Somebody call the Kaiser, this could revolutionize trench warfare.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:02:07 AM EDT
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They need to build a mag fed shotgun from the ground up Not retrofit a tube shotgun for a mag |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:08:22 AM EDT
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I wonder if there was some weird military or police bid request that came up for a box mag pump gun. It’s so weird to me that these are suddenly the new thing.
If they don’t convert their semi auto lines as well I will be very disappointed Quoted:
It's about time someone made some rimless shotgun rounds. I know they'd be more expensive but the reliability for my street sweeper would be worth it! Quoted:
They need to build a mag fed shotgun from the ground up Not retrofit a tube shotgun for a mag Quoted:
One of the advantages of a tube fed shotgun is that you can top off the magazine at anytime. I'll pass. Quoted: Little known to most people, Black Aces Tactical had been converting Mossberg Shockwaves to mag fed months before Remington released their mag fed pumps. So both Mossberg AND Remington were late to the party. http://www.blackacestactical.com/_p/prd3/4656851541/product/shockwave-magazine-fed-12-gauge! |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:11:43 AM EDT
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I wonder if there was some weird military or police bid request that came up for a box mag pump gun. It’s so weird to me that these are suddenly the new thing. If they don’t convert their semi auto lines as well I will be very disappointed How would they headspace/index? It would be interesting to see. The mag tube works really well for securing the barrel and acting as a structure for the pump to work. That’s pretty much how I feel as well. It’s pretty handy to do that vs a few extra huge mags for everything I want to use a shotgun for. For everything else I guess I’ll grab my saiga. Little know to most people was the Knox Sidewinder which was doing this over a decade ago. I had a kit a mini drum mag sitting in a drawer forever. This is nothing new there was just never a perceived market until now apparently. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:11:56 AM EDT
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considering that the thing is mag fed, why is the magazine tube so long? What am I missing, the thing still usable as tube feed? |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:14:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:15:55 AM EDT
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Still a pump...I'll stick with my Saiga! |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:18:05 AM EDT
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That thing is gonna be heavy as hell with 20 rounds hanging off the bottom of it. While shotguns aren't ideal weapons compared to carbines, they have some advantages that carbines do not possess. The huge huge huge problem with the shotgun market is reloading them. A reliable and durable magazine, even if it's only 8-10 rounds....will take one of the biggest issues I have with the shotgun off the table. The 20 seems cumbersome, but the 10 doesn't seem so bad. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:31:36 AM EDT
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Mike Davidson has the patent on that doublestack.
His compqny is MD Arms, and he originally made the design for mags for the saiga 12. He made the first drum for the saiga 12. He is angood guy. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Little known to most people, Black Aces Tactical had been converting Mossberg Shockwaves to mag fed months before Remington released their mag fed pumps. So both Mossberg AND Remington were late to the party. http://www.blackacestactical.com/_p/prd3/4656851541/product/shockwave-magazine-fed-12-gauge! So, no, Black Aces didn't do shit. 
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:46:29 AM EDT
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I wonder if there was some weird military or police bid request that came up for a box mag pump gun. It’s so weird to me that these are suddenly the new thing. If they don’t convert their semi auto lines as well I will be very disappointed How would they headspace/index? It would be interesting to see. The mag tube works really well for securing the barrel and acting as a structure for the pump to work. That’s pretty much how I feel as well. It’s pretty handy to do that vs a few extra huge mags for everything I want to use a shotgun for. For everything else I guess I’ll grab my saiga. Little know to most people was the Knox Sidewinder which was doing this over a decade ago. I had a kit a mini drum mag sitting in a drawer forever. This is nothing new there was just never a perceived market until now apparently. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 10:54:29 AM EDT
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Nothing negative to say about it, it's just no better for my purposes than the 930SPX......
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:03:54 AM EDT
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When Benelli does a mag-fed version of the M4 I'll get excited.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:11:52 AM EDT
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The 10 round magazine looks cumbersome.
The 20 round magazine will smack you in the kneecap. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:12:03 AM EDT
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When Benelli does a mag-fed version of the M4 I'll get excited. 
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:14:57 AM EDT
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It's about time someone made some rimless shotgun rounds. I know they'd be more expensive but the reliability for my street sweeper would be worth it! Quoted:
They need to build a mag fed shotgun from the ground up Not retrofit a tube shotgun for a mag Then we could have sideways shotgun mags a la FN P90. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:28:37 AM EDT
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This is what I want to know or when is one coming out? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why no 930M  There's so much 590/930 hate but oddly enough I know three other guys that own them, and the only problem out of all four guns is that one of them doesn't like short brass wally world Federal. We're not 3-gunners, but I've seen all four of them run a few hundred shells each many times on mass clay murder days. Maybe the ones they ship to MI are better. But I also have a relatively new 870 that hasn't destroyed itself rusting. And reliable Sig US pistols. Sig rifles (716 ugh) got me though, so my luck isn't perfect. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:29:14 AM EDT
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i'm still waiting on this
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:32:52 AM EDT
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Need a setup like this for the 1301
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:41:35 AM EDT
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Need a setup like this for the 1301
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:49:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make a Shockwave version and Arfcom would eat chili w/o beans. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 11:53:41 AM EDT
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Mossberg makes cool shit. I have faith it's on the way. Maybe with a drum mag option. A 930 with a 25rd drum option, might have to buy another safe... There's so much 590/930 hate but oddly enough I know three other guys that own them, and the only problem out of all four guns is that one of them doesn't like short brass wally world Federal. We're not 3-gunners, but I've seen all four of them run a few hundred shells each many times on mass clay murder days. Maybe the ones they ship to MI are better. But I also have a relatively new 870 that hasn't destroyed itself rusting. And reliable Sig US pistols. Sig rifles (716 ugh) got me though, so my luck isn't perfect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why no 930M There's so much 590/930 hate but oddly enough I know three other guys that own them, and the only problem out of all four guns is that one of them doesn't like short brass wally world Federal. We're not 3-gunners, but I've seen all four of them run a few hundred shells each many times on mass clay murder days. Maybe the ones they ship to MI are better. But I also have a relatively new 870 that hasn't destroyed itself rusting. And reliable Sig US pistols. Sig rifles (716 ugh) got me though, so my luck isn't perfect. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:15:50 PM EDT
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You know what that 150 year old, streamlined shotgun design really needs? A huge box mag hanging off the perpendicular!! I love the 500/590 series shotguns, but this thing is stupid. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:24:34 PM EDT
[#30]
I have tube fed shotguns and I have magazine fed shotguns, don't feel the need to combine the two.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI want a real version of this
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:33:09 PM EDT
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I'd buy one. Too bad governor cock sucker will more than likely ban them.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:34:09 PM EDT
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It's about time someone made some rimless shotgun rounds. I know they'd be more expensive but the reliability for my street sweeper would be worth it! |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 12:34:40 PM EDT
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2 3/4 only?
If it isn't going to do 3 1/2 magnums, it isn't worth a fuck. Piss ass mossberg. 
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Posted: 1/22/2018 1:25:02 PM EDT
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What would you have them headspace on? Bottleneck? Belt? Mouth? |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 1:35:44 PM EDT
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I never cease to be amazed at the silliness shotguns generate.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 5:12:16 PM EDT
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Be interesting to see what magazines cost.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 5:46:12 PM EDT
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Governor Cuomo does not approve.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 7:25:32 PM EDT
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An SBS'ed/Braced Shockwave version of this would be pretty slick.
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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:14:00 PM EDT
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I just saw a video that featured the magazines. Good god they are huge. The 20 rounder especially.
Sooner or later there will be a Shockwaved version. With a 20 round magazine. And that's the moment we know God has forsaken us. |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:20:01 PM EDT
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What would you have them headspace on? Bottleneck? Belt? Mouth? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's about time someone made some rimless shotgun rounds. I know they'd be more expensive but the reliability for my street sweeper would be worth it! |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 12:44:53 PM EDT
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Video from Mossberg added to OP.
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Posted: 1/23/2018 12:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would jam. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 12:51:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:07:31 PM EDT
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I have tube fed shotguns and I have magazine fed shotguns, don't feel the need to combine the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140412_185207-428037.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140424_191538-428038.JPG Tried to IM you a question about the color of the 590 wood furniture, but your inbox is full.. you remember what color stain you used..? |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:21:45 PM EDT
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@jmftexas Tried to IM you a question about the color of the 590 wood furniture, but your inbox is full.. you remember what color stain you used..? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have tube fed shotguns and I have magazine fed shotguns, don't feel the need to combine the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140412_185207-428037.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140424_191538-428038.JPG Tried to IM you a question about the color of the 590 wood furniture, but your inbox is full.. you remember what color stain you used..? |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:34:46 PM EDT
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It’s been a few years and I honestly don’t remember exactly. I just checked my cabinet and the only thing I have is minwax Sedona red. I’m sure I used that, what I am unsure of is if I also did a coat or two of something more brown. I am thinking I did but I honestly don’t remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have tube fed shotguns and I have magazine fed shotguns, don't feel the need to combine the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140412_185207-428037.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145343/20140424_191538-428038.JPG Tried to IM you a question about the color of the 590 wood furniture, but your inbox is full.. you remember what color stain you used..? Sweet, I will play around a little with sedona red and some others.. that color looks good though, thanks for the reply. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Why no 930M Shockwave |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:49:28 PM EDT
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Where’s the AOW?
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:50:16 PM EDT
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