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Posted: 3/1/2018 1:01:38 AM EDT
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Academy is beating their dick like it owes them money over this decision.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:33:47 AM EDT
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I have a 20 year old son who will be the buyer and Nolo on speed dial. I just hate to spend money at Dicks. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:48:47 AM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:03:03 AM EDT
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:27:10 AM EDT
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:32:26 AM EDT
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Make them suffer |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:33:39 AM EDT
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So Walmart wants to raise the age to buy a gun to 21... will they also raise the age to buy cigarettes to 35?
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Posted: 3/1/2018 1:09:09 PM EDT
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This. It's not about whether they are right or wrong, it's about choosing to side against us. Fuck them and use a lawyer to do it. They won't care about lost business but lawsuits do get their attention and their money. We're in a war right now and the high road is closed for repairs, gotta go low for awhile. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/1/2018 4:15:24 PM EDT
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Still no arf lawyer response. That question needs answered.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 4:55:31 PM EDT
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In most states, what Dick's is doing is legal.
That being said, they took a side and it wasn't our side. Time to buy our overpriced basketballs and socks somewhere else. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 4:58:58 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:03:02 PM EDT
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We have a Dicks and a Field and Stream, turned in my Sportsman’s advantage card today.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:14:41 PM EDT
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B.S. Article doesn't quote any Federal Law saying this is allowable discrimination. Please show me the specific LAW that says "Hey! - If they pass and you just don't like them for being Black, or Gay or Women, or Muslim, or 20 years old you Don't have to Sell it to them - just because Y-O-U "don't feel like it"... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want I quoted a source that outlined the fact that gun stores/FFLs can refuse to transfer a weapon at their pleasure. You need to show me a law in which 18-21 year olds who want to purchase a gun from an FFL are a legally protected class. Go ahead, make my day. BTW: I believe that 18 year olds should continue to be legally allowed to purchase firearms. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:17:52 PM EDT
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In most states, what Dick's is doing is legal. That being said, they took a side and it wasn't our side. Time to buy our overpriced basketballs and socks somewhere else. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:28:12 PM EDT
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ETA: Dicks is a private company, that is there for profit. It is not a public right to be able to go into Dicks and purchase items. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:39:01 PM EDT
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 5:48:01 PM EDT
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Does that include protected classes? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want I'm pretty sure that members of protected classes have been turned away by gun stores. If an FFL's "spidey sense" tingles they are not obligated to make a sale or do a transfer. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:00:40 PM EDT
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Yes, if the FFL doesn't articulate the fact that the rejected customer was turned away due to his belonging to the protected class. I'm pretty sure that members of protected classes have been turned away by gun stores. If an FFL's "spidey sense" tingles they are not obligated to make a sale or do a transfer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want I'm pretty sure that members of protected classes have been turned away by gun stores. If an FFL's "spidey sense" tingles they are not obligated to make a sale or do a transfer. That is why why they could be sued for civil rights. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:05:01 PM EDT
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And that is EXACTLY the rub. Dicks as a company, and now Wal-Mart, have articulated a specific descrimination of age. That is why why they could be sued for civil rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want I'm pretty sure that members of protected classes have been turned away by gun stores. If an FFL's "spidey sense" tingles they are not obligated to make a sale or do a transfer. That is why why they could be sued for civil rights. If Dicks management believes they're uncomfortable transferring guns to them they don't have to. I'm pretty sure that Dicks and Walmart have attorneys advising them. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:09:54 PM EDT
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Interesting article by a lawyer. Apparently it depends on where you are, more liberal areas appear to have stonger laws regarding age discrimination.
http://reason.com/volokh/2018/02/28/can-gun-stores-refuse-to-sell-rifles-and |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:13:28 PM EDT
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So have insurance companies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guys, I hate to ruin the flight of fancy going on here, but young people are generally not protected by age-discrimination laws. You generally have to be over 40 and it applies primarily in the context of employment. Rental car companies have been discriminating against those under 25 for ages (pun intended). |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:15:09 PM EDT
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This ain't no barkery, son. A FFL doesn't need to articulate a reason for not selling you a gun, it's federal law that he can refuse a sale for whatever reason he wants. I sure wouldn't give a reason. I'd just tell them, "Sorry, fresh out". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I direct you to a bakery in Colorado. While this was an alleged discrimination case, civil rights case similar? I was pointing out that a discrimination case is likely different from a civil rights case. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:25:00 PM EDT
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Go in and tell them you are a homosexual 19 years old.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:32:35 PM EDT
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An FFL can refuse to sell a firearm to anyone for any reason and they don't have to say why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Doesn't apply, this would be denying people their rights/discrimination based on age. Isn't there laws protecting Americans against discrimination based solely on race age religion ect..... No that law pertains specially to employers and over 40 age group But here in Florida there's a law that says no entity, county, city ect....can write any new gun laws that exceeds state gun laws. Would that also include business. Again this is based upon the fact that DICKS made a open announcement that they would violate both federal and state laws based simply upon age alone. Nothing else, no suspicion of being a gang banger nothing, just age and not on an individual basis as ffl dealers do when they do refuse to sell someone a firearm. But a blanket statement to an entire class of AMERICANS who are guilty of no crimes that under FEDERAL LAW PREVENT THEM FROM BUYING OR OWNING A FIREARM. Would that NOT violate Florida's gun laws of making/writing a new law pertaining to guns in that state. This is going to get interesting. This is going to get challenged in court obviously. Not to mention cost DICKS million in revenue. Think I'm joking DICKS look at The Sports Authority that went out of business when they stopped selling guns. But I do remember a FFL dealer in Sebastian Florida that did refuse to sell guns to all people of MUSLIM decent. Actually put a sign in his widow saying he'd not sell to Muslims. You guys remember that. What ever happened with that deal. Is he still not selling to Muslims. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:46:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree but Dicks made a blanket statement that they would not sell simply because someone is in a specific age group. Isn't there laws protecting Americans against discrimination based solely on race age religion ect..... No that law pertains specially to employers and over 40 age group But here in Florida there's a law that says no entity, county, city ect....can write any new law that exceeds state laws. Pertaining to guns. Would that also include business. Again this is based upon the fact that DICKS made a open announcement that they would violate both federal and state laws based simply upon age alone. Nothing else, no suspicious of being a gang banger nothing, just age. Would that violate Florida's law of making/writing a new law pertaining to guns in that state. This is going to get interesting. This is going to get challenged in court obviously. Not to mention cost DICKS million in revenue. Think I'm joking DICKS look at The Sports Authority that went out of business when they stopped selling guns. Federal and state law currently allows for the purchase of certain firearms by individuals 18 or older but to my knowledge there's no Florida law requiring gun stores to sell a gun to anyone. I strongly believe in allowing 18 year olds to continue to be legally able to by firearms, but I also believe that gun stores are not legally bound to sell guns to them. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:47:51 PM EDT
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Bingo. Unfortunately this tactic works for gay cakes somehow... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. Unfortunately this tactic works for gay cakes somehow... Apparently gun owners aren't. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:53:05 PM EDT
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Gays are under the equal protections clause of the 14th amendment. Apparently gun owners aren't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. Unfortunately this tactic works for gay cakes somehow... Apparently gun owners aren't. 
I just heard our commander and dick again about taking away our rights on due process and bitch slap the NRA saying basically they aren't crap, what are you afraid of. He needs to stfu. About violating the 5th and 14th admendment. He's empowering these dumb fucks doing this crap. I voted for him so I can criticize his sorry ass. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 7:53:17 PM EDT
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In most states, what Dick's is doing is legal. That being said, they took a side and it wasn't our side. Time to buy our overpriced basketballs and socks somewhere else. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:00:37 PM EDT
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In most states, what Dick's is doing is legal. That being said, they took a side and it wasn't our side. Time to buy our overpriced basketballs and nut socks somewhere else. 
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:01:18 PM EDT
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Here is the unfortunate reality.
Federal law says you don't have firearms rights unless you're 21 or over. Then it allows some specific privileges to those 18-20. The federal courts are not going to intervene, it's already been tried with handguns: http://blogs.findlaw.com/fifth_circuit/2013/04/5th-circuit-wont-reconsider-under-21-gun-sale-ban.html And a complete ban on firearms possession for some unfortunate individuals 18-20: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1720717.html Until SCOTUS takes more 2A cases, the lower courts will continue treating 2A as a disfavored civil right, in the words of Justice Thomas. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:02:55 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:03:53 PM EDT
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What retards are buying firearms at dicks sporting goods or walmart? Go to a gun shop, buy a gun...pretty simple.
If a place decides not to sell certain firearms, or ammo anymore. Or if they decide not to sell to anyone under whatever age they decide. Why do you care? |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:04:46 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. we have the right to not shop there at all. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:08:44 PM EDT
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Be sure to make it a black 18 year old. Then when they deny him, pull the card and ask why.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we should force businesses to sell anything to anyone? I'll go with less regulation for $200 Alex. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:23:21 PM EDT
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Here is the unfortunate reality. Federal law says you don't have firearms rights unless you're 21 or over. Then it allows some specific privileges to those 18-20. The federal courts are not going to intervene, it's already been tried with handguns: http://blogs.findlaw.com/fifth_circuit/2013/04/5th-circuit-wont-reconsider-under-21-gun-sale-ban.html Until SCOTUS takes more 2A cases, the lower courts will continue treating 2A as a disfavored civil right, in the words of Justice Thomas. Nothing in the law states that an 18, 19 or 20 year has fewer rights than a 21 or older Americans as far as ownership goes. Because the federal law only puts restrictions on FFL dealers not American gun owners. 18, 19 and 20 can own and buy every firearm a 21 and older American can buy. Both handguns and long guns. Also gun ownership is most certainly not a privileges. Driving a car on the road ways is a privileges. Gun ownership is recognized not granted by a CONSTITUTIONAL right by the 2nd admendment. We as a people LET government violate the 2nd admendment as well as other Admendments. When they have zero rights to do so. We are to blame for our lost of rights. By letting it happen. We can not blame anyone but ourselves either. Remember what Clinton said. She said that Every Right That We Have Is Open To And Subject To Reasonable Regulations Well this is what we have let the government do to our rights. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:34:01 PM EDT
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But not a wedding cake? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. Who would wand a Dick Cake at their wedding? Ohhhh, wait. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:34:13 PM EDT
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But not a wedding cake? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. Who would wand a Dick Cake at their wedding? Ohhhh, wait. |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 8:56:19 PM EDT
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Does this REALLY make any sense?
These Semi-Automatic weapons are available ONLY to those over 21  All these Automatic weapons are available to 17 year olds (just gotta sign up  )
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