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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:55:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks I guess are deceiving. Doesn't look steep at all to me. Taken from goog earth from the intersection of 30 and 30A looking up the hill. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/139634/30_and_30A_intersection-698256.JPG Side view of hill grade. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/139634/hill_side_view-698265.JPG |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:21:03 PM EST
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The owner of the limo company, and his son that runs it....are muslim immigrants. Surprise surprise...
It gets weirder....he worked as a informant/witness for the FBI..... "The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, is a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, a law enforcement official confirmed. The official suggested that his son may be running the day-to-day operations of the company." .nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/prestige-limousine-crash What did these people in the limo know about the Clinton's ?? - |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:26:23 PM EST
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The owner of the limo company, and his son that runs it....are muslim immigrants. Surprise surprise...
It gets weirder....he worked as a informant/witness for the FBI..... "The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, is a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, a law enforcement official confirmed. The official suggested that his son may be running the day-to-day operations of the company." .nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/prestige-limousine-crash What did these people in the limo know about the Clinton's ?? - Instead, the group obtained a stretch limousine, which was in shoddy condition, Ms. McGowan told her friend, using a profanity to describe the vehicle. The friend, Melissa Healey, 33, who had been the maid of honor at Ms. McGowan’s wedding this past summer, shared the texts with The New York Times. “The motor is making everyone deaf,” wrote Ms. McGowan, before Ms. Healey asked from where they rented the car. Ms. McGowan responded that she wasn’t sure, but then added, “When we get to brewery we will all b deaf.” |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:30:32 PM EST
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:31:29 PM EST
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So they loaded 17 people into a POS limo, with some 3rd world immigrant driving likely and we get this.
Waiting for Coumo to make some “common sense” reform proposals...... |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:34:58 PM EST
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The owner of the limo company, and his son that runs it....are muslim immigrants. Surprise surprise...
It gets weirder....he worked as a informant/witness for the FBI..... "The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, is a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, a law enforcement official confirmed. The official suggested that his son may be running the day-to-day operations of the company." .nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/prestige-limousine-crash What did these people in the limo know about the Clinton's ?? - Sounds like a real stand-up guy . . . 
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:35:15 PM EST
[#7]
 Attached File
For those wondering why nobody survived the crash. If you look at the 2 pictures it appears that nearly 50% of the limousine is missing. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:37:26 PM EST
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For those that are having a hard time understanding how everyone in the limo died, go back to page three and look at the videos of them hauling it out of the woods.
The front is basically gone from what looks like the 5th or 6th window from the rear to me.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:48:09 PM EST
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"He became an F.B.I. informant after being charged in 2002 with a scheme involving taking money to illegally help people in the Albany area get driver’s licenses." Sounds like a real stand-up guy . . . |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:51:00 PM EST
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One of the bodies of the pedestrians.
 Witnesses described commotion as first responders broke windows in an attempt to rescue victims. "I heard some screaming. It looked serious because people were running back and forth," local resident Bridey Finegan told WNYT NewsChannel 13. "That limo was coming down that hill probably over 60 miles per hour," Jessica Kirby, manager of the Apple Barrel Country Store, told the New York Times. Bill Waterson, who lives nearby, said he was stunned by the sight of the wreckage. "All the car parts, door panels covered in blood still on the ground and everything. It was bad," he said. "I'm 68-years-old, I've never seen so much destruction." |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:52:16 PM EST
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"Still image from a surveillance videotape shows informant, shahed Hussain, wielding an inert, inoperable shoulder fired rocket launcher to suspects in a federal terrorism sting in Albany in volving Mohammed Hossain, and Yassin Aref. TIMES UNION" https://m.timesunion.com/news/article/FBI-informant-in-terror-stings-owned-limo-in-13290392.php |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:57:05 PM EST
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For those that are having a hard time understanding how everyone in the limo died, go back to page three and look at the videos of them hauling it out of the woods. The front is basically gone from what looks like the 5th or 6th window from the rear to me. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467703/800x800_1496852511304-prestige-11-698300.JPG Sounds like the limo was in rough shape. As someone who's lost a brake line due to corrosion...there is no warning. You can drive around normally dry as a bone and stopping well..until you really need to stomp on them...that's when you find the rusty spots. In GMs it's almost always in the hangers that support the line, you literally cannot see the bad spot until you take it out of the hanger. I've never had an inspection failed for brake lines. More than likely the limo failed due to a hole in the exhaust, just given the text messages from passengers. One thing to note: NYS inspection for normal passenger vehicles/light commercial (pickups) does not requires your air bag or ABS/traction control/stability control to be functioning properly in order to pass. You can have the dash lit up like a Christmas tree with SRS/ABS alarms and it will pass every time. I'm not sure if livery vehicles have different standards. Can't have emissions codes, automatic fail. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:17:13 PM EST
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For those that are having a hard time understanding how everyone in the limo died, go back to page three and look at the videos of them hauling it out of the woods. The front is basically gone from what looks like the 5th or 6th window from the rear to me. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467703/800x800_1496852511304-prestige-11-698300.JPG |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:23:20 PM EST
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Former terrorist opens limo service in the middle of nowhere / upstate NY.
Handy way to transport incoming illegals from Canada to NYC or Islamberg (in the Catskills, IIRC) Also limos much less likely to draw scrutiny in NYC than a Ryder rental like the WTC I bombing. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:31:25 PM EST
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The group of friends and family were on their way to a surprise 30th birthday party when the 2001 Ford Excursion limousine lost control, careened through an intersection and hit a parked car outside a small country store in the town of Schoharie, near Albany. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:31:39 PM EST
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So, was this an act of a snack bar?
Was there a dash cam, and if so, did it have audio? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:33:56 PM EST
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So, was this an act of a snack bar? Was there a dash cam, and if so, did it have audio? Owners need alien probed. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:37:11 PM EST
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Class E required to drive livery in NY...never heard of that, had to look it up.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:41:48 PM EST
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Class E required to drive livery in NY...never heard of that, had to look it up. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:41:58 PM EST
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27166/limo-697083.JPG https://wwcdn.weddingwire.com/vendor/135001_140000/135307/thumbnails/800x800_1496852511304-prestige-11.jpg For those wondering why nobody survived the crash. If you look at the 2 pictures it appears that nearly 50% of the limousine is missing. In the video at the bottom of pg 6, the NTSB guy says the engine is pushed into the drivers compartment. It also shows another second or two of them pulling the wreck out of the ditch. You can see a little more of the mangled front section. The vehicle didn't break in half. The front 25% accordioned into the next 25%. They'll be pulling the driver out of that with tweezers. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:42:29 PM EST
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Really surprised everyone died. You'd think the vehicle wouldn't be nearly as intact as it is. Prayers for for the families involved in this horrible accident. From what I've read so far, it didn't have to happen this way. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:44:19 PM EST
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So, was this an act of a snack bar? Was there a dash cam, and if so, did it have audio? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:44:36 PM EST
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My guess is we'll find out the driver was busy reading or sending a text while driving.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:45:52 PM EST
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I am far from a conspiracy theorist but the last two pages, if true, really make you start to wonder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, was this an act of a snack bar? Was there a dash cam, and if so, did it have audio? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:49:01 PM EST
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Just saw chuck Schumer say we've got to regulate these limos. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:13:37 PM EST
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The owner of the limo company, and his son that runs it....are muslim immigrants. Surprise surprise...
It gets weirder....he worked as a informant/witness for the FBI..... "The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, is a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, a law enforcement official confirmed. The official suggested that his son may be running the day-to-day operations of the company." .nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/prestige-limousine-crash What did these people in the limo know about the Clinton's ?? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:13:55 PM EST
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Interesting that a passenger said the car was in terrible shape yet still got in it. But it there's no shortage of clueless passengers out there in the wild. I've been in commercial passenger service for 18 years. I'm a professional, and it's my responsibility to actually CHECK my vehicle each and every time I take it out of the yard. No excuses, ever. And no incidents in over forty years on the road. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:19:12 PM EST
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It makes no sense that all the people in the limo died......The cause of death reports should be interesting. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:21:56 PM EST
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Is it true that they were from Amsterdam and going to Cooperstown? Either they were lost or had to pick up someone, otherwise no reason to go that way. I grew up in Middleburgh, that hill they would come down is pretty steep.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Amsterdam,+NY+12010/@42.8723603,-74.7740074,10z/data= Half way down, steep as in a long grade I should say, this view is towards the intersection https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7030159,-74.299445,3a,75y,180h,90t/data= |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:27:12 PM EST
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27166/limo-697083.JPG https://wwcdn.weddingwire.com/vendor/135001_140000/135307/thumbnails/800x800_1496852511304-prestige-11.jpg For those wondering why nobody survived the crash. If you look at the 2 pictures it appears that nearly 50% of the limousine is missing. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:27:13 PM EST
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New York State Police said the owner of the limo company is out of the country. I bet he doesn't come back.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:31:31 PM EST
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Surprised there aren't any photos of the entire vehicle public yet.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:40:41 PM EST
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Someone's probably going to jail over this. Right? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:44:16 PM EST
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That is awful news.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 3:57:01 PM EST
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When limos are banned, only bad guys will have limos.
*I’m sure this has already been posted but, I’m not reading the whole fucking thread. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:00:02 PM EST
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The vehicle had been brought in as a replacement after a bus meant to transport the party broke down. It belonged to Prestige Limousines and Lisinicchia was one of two drivers employed by the company. In the last two years, it has had four vehicles taken out of service upon inspection, documents from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration that were obtained by DailyMail.com on Monday reveal. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/10/08/12/4852564-6251457-image-m-28_1538998570490.jpg Scott Lisinicchia, 53, was driving the limo which crashed in upstate New York on Saturday, killing 20 including himself. Witnesses said the limo was traveling around 60mph when it blew through a stop sign at the bottom of a steep hill opposite a store, which is known to locals as an accident hotspot. Trucks were banned from using the road in recent years after several lost control while coming down the steep gradient, the state Department of Transportation said. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/10/08/13/4850982-6251457-image-m-51_1539000545357.jpg More Quote HistoryQuoted:
The vehicle had been brought in as a replacement after a bus meant to transport the party broke down. It belonged to Prestige Limousines and Lisinicchia was one of two drivers employed by the company. In the last two years, it has had four vehicles taken out of service upon inspection, documents from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration that were obtained by DailyMail.com on Monday reveal. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/10/08/12/4852564-6251457-image-m-28_1538998570490.jpg Scott Lisinicchia, 53, was driving the limo which crashed in upstate New York on Saturday, killing 20 including himself. Witnesses said the limo was traveling around 60mph when it blew through a stop sign at the bottom of a steep hill opposite a store, which is known to locals as an accident hotspot. Trucks were banned from using the road in recent years after several lost control while coming down the steep gradient, the state Department of Transportation said. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/10/08/13/4850982-6251457-image-m-51_1539000545357.jpg More A local official warned that the road had been an accidental black spot for years.
'There have been tractor trailers that have come barreling down that hill and it was a miracle they didn't kill somebody,' Schoharie Town Supervisor Alan Tavenner told the Albany Times Union. The manager of the country store where the crash happened said they had been begging officials to do something to reduce the danger for years. 'There have been] more accidents than I can count. We have been asking for something to be done for years,' Jessica Kirby, the store's manager, said. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:09:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is that street legal? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:09:12 PM EST
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Former terrorist opens limo service in the middle of nowhere / upstate NY. Handy way to transport incoming illegals from Canada to NYC or Islamberg (in the Catskills, IIRC) Also limos much less likely to draw scrutiny in NYC than a Ryder rental like the WTC I bombing. State authorities have seized all vehicles owned by the limo company. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:10:29 PM EST
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When limos are banned, only bad guys will have limos. *I’m sure this has already been posted but, I’m not reading the whole fucking thread. Go down to Albany. Tell that smarmy Cuomo 9-11 3k NYC 8 with a home depot truck 20 in upstate NY with a limo Yet... black rifles with flash suppressors pistol grips magazines more than 10 rounds and shoulder things that go up need to be banned to keep NY safe? And if caught with one that is a felony charge, worse than a child molester? Did you drink the Hudson River water when you were a child? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:10:45 PM EST
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New York State Police said the owner of the limo company is out of the country. I bet he doesn't come back. Yes, Pakistan. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:13:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WRGB (CBS6 News) now reporting that the cheapskate Muzzie limo owner is out of the country and is in.... wait for it... PAKISTAN. State authorities have seized all vehicles owned by the limo company. This one may have legs. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:15:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WRGB (CBS6 News) now reporting that the cheapskate Muzzie limo owner is out of the country and is in.... wait for it... PAKISTAN. State authorities have seized all vehicles owned by the limo company. If Paki's won't extradite, nuke wherever they think he is. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:16:47 PM EST
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It's just like any other motorhome length. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: How is that street legal? I can guarantee you that they are over the weight limit for each axle. The brakes are designed for the weight limit of those axles. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:18:46 PM EST
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May be a thread dupe, but...FOX News is now reporting the limo driver was a wire-wearing anti-terrorist informant for the FBI. This one may have legs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: WRGB (CBS6 News) now reporting that the cheapskate Muzzie limo owner is out of the country and is in.... wait for it... PAKISTAN. State authorities have seized all vehicles owned by the limo company. This one may have legs. Things that make you go hmmmm. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:21:47 PM EST
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That’s not exactly true. I can guarantee you that they are over the weight limit for each axle. The brakes are designed for the weight limit of those axles. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:22:31 PM EST
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No pics, immediate cleanup, and a guy throwing the tires from the limo into the back of a random pickup as part of cleanup. Things that make you go hmmmm. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:25:20 PM EST
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What the fuck kind of fly-by-night outfit keeps a 2001 model vehicle in service in 2018? Especially in commercial passenger service with the road conditions we have up this way??? Was this another Chinese/Asian bus company or what? Same applies to tour buses (sleepers and coaches), aircraft, etc. 17 years on a limo is a lot of freaking years, but I am not surprised that a tiny 2-4 vehicle service has just that. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:25:43 PM EST
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Some reports have said there is debris there from accidents past. I saw a pic of the cleanup where someone was placing a compact (tiny) spare tire in a pickup. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No pics, immediate cleanup, and a guy throwing the tires from the limo into the back of a random pickup as part of cleanup. Things that make you go hmmmm. Same style wheel as was on the accident limo. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:27:17 PM EST
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So they loaded 17 people into a POS limo, with some 3rd world immigrant driving likely and we get this. Waiting for Coumo to make some “common sense” reform proposals...... |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 4:27:52 PM EST
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That’s not exactly true. I can guarantee you that they are over the weight limit for each axle. The brakes are designed for the weight limit of those axles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: How is that street legal? I can guarantee you that they are over the weight limit for each axle. The brakes are designed for the weight limit of those axles. |
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