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Posted: 4/5/2024 5:26:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2024 5:33:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2024 5:33:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCool. I tuned in just in time to see it.  Thanks for posting it. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 7:43:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Everything looks beautiful. Arfbros made fun of the test bucks field welded by water tower rig welders on cherry pickers. Never forget Arfmen told the Arfbros fuck off and stick to shining their ridiculous rims offsetted outside their wheel wells. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 7:56:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Please.take all.of the Blue Origin (and Bezos) discussions and updates to the Blue Origin thread linked above. This is not the appropriate thread for it. Please and thank you.  |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 7:58:55 PM EDT
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Vandenberg launch
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Posted: 4/5/2024 8:01:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: Vandenberg launch https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170945/5FD50429-73C5-49E4-968A-70EA7EF9BFFE-3176121.jpg when did they launch a Starship from Vandenberg? 
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Posted: 4/5/2024 9:14:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Never forget. Arfbros made fun of the test bucks field welded by water tower rig welders on cherry pickers. Never forget Arfmen told the Arfbros fuck off and stick to shining their ridiculous rims offsetted outside their wheel wells. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Everything looks beautiful. Arfbros made fun of the test bucks field welded by water tower rig welders on cherry pickers. Never forget Arfmen told the Arfbros fuck off and stick to shining their ridiculous rims offsetted outside their wheel wells. I’m one of them that laughed many times at the “hoppers”. I understood their purpose but the aesthetic was pretty damn terrible. I had no idea that 25 or so articles later they could be as damn sci-fi perfect as they are even now. 
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Posted: 4/5/2024 9:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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Posted: 4/5/2024 9:45:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2024 9:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV931bMAAvlw1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV_A7aoAAEr8C?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcWALXbkAAYz_6?format=jpg&name=large The tempo, my god, the tempo they are pushing. LOVE IT.
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:17:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: when did they launch a Starship from Vandenberg? Hasn't happened yet, but I do expect it to happen sooner rather than later. I seem to recall hearing that SpaceX has bought the old Delta IV Heavy launchpad there. They wanted to do Shuttle launches from Vandenberg but they never did. As for how things started at Boca Chica. I thought it was an elaborate joke at first. The Hopper and other early test articles looked ridiculous and that they were building these things on a beach seemed insane. We have come a long way since then. The moment this program stopped being a joke for me was the flight of SN-8. That convinced me that there really was something here and it happened at a very important time when I had almost completely given up. No joke, seeing this program develop has been a major reason why I didn't check out permanently. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:25:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RarestRX: The tempo, my god, the tempo they are pushing. LOVE IT. It's not just the tempo, but the progress and improvement on each iteration. They are moving this quickly while still having to implement and retrofit each vehicle from the lessons learned on the previous flight. I can't imagine how much faster everything gets once they have a booster and ship that can be reused with just their current manufacturing capabilities. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: SpaceX's cinematic as fuck highlight reel.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMrILhTulIEat your heart out Zach Snyder.  Ok , that is awesome . Thanks ! |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV931bMAAvlw1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV_A7aoAAEr8C?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcWALXbkAAYz_6?format=jpg&name=large
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Posted: 4/5/2024 11:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV931bMAAvlw1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV_A7aoAAEr8C?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcWALXbkAAYz_6?format=jpg&name=large You could definitely roast some marshmallows with that. |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 6:59:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kill-9]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:26:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: You could definitely roast some marshmallows with that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV931bMAAvlw1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcV_A7aoAAEr8C?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKcWALXbkAAYz_6?format=jpg&name=large You could definitely roast some marshmallows with that. Chomos. |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:33:26 PM EDT
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45min video
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:38:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:39:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:41:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:43:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 3:46:47 PM EDT
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If IFT 4 works Elon has stated that IFT 5 will try to catch a booster on the tower.
They gotta get that fuel sloshing fixed from what I can see. The Raptors can’t run without farts and O2. The SS reentry will be a success next time. I am sure they got that figured out. |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 4:36:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kill-9]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: 45min video
Definitely worth watching. |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 7:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKgA70Za4AAfO8-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 8:37:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:05:13 PM EDT
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It looks like they would have to ballast the ship to keep it stable.
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:13:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:27:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2024 11:12:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2024 11:29:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWith the notable exception of Stoke Space. Most of the launch industry seems to be pretending that Starship either doesn't exist or it won't work out for whatever reason. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 11:36:18 AM EDT
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Always pursue your goals until they become irrelevant. You never know what the outcome will be.
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Posted: 4/7/2024 11:47:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKhYYn5WYAAin_Y?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I'd almost think they'd up the diameter than making it that much longer. They have to build a new tower to handle the height anyway. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 12:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: I'd almost think they'd up the diameter than making it that much longer. They have to build a new tower to handle the height anyway. The OLM is much more complex than the tower. The tower is most likely a simple task of adding levels and extensions to the chopstick system. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: I'd almost think they'd up the diameter than making it that much longer. They have to build a new tower to handle the height anyway. They've proposed a 12m version, once the 9m is up and running. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:45:24 PM EDT
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Off topic from Space X but whatever happened to the startup that was launching via the slingshot method? Basically whipped a rocket around vey fast and the at a certain time launches it.
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: Off topic from Space X but whatever happened to the startup that was launching via the slingshot method? Basically whipped a rocket around vey fast and the at a certain time launches it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinLaunch At Spaceport America in New Mexico on 22 October 2021, SpinLaunch conducted the first vertical test of their accelerator at 20% of its full power capacity, hurling a 10-foot-long (3.0 m) passive projectile to an altitude of "tens of thousands of feet." This test accelerator is 108 ft (33 m) in diameter, which makes it a one-third scale of the operational system that is being designed.[14][15][16] The company's first 10 test flights reached as much as 30,000 feet (9,100 m) in altitude. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 5:42:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sheltot]
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I don't have access to Mathcad since retiring, so I had to do real work on that.
 To achieve 30000 ft on a 33 ft diameter "thrower", absent atmospheric drag (which you can't, but I have no idea what they were throwing), takes over 3600 g's of centripetal acceleration.
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Posted: 4/7/2024 5:45:22 PM EDT
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That thrower idea might be useful once we have colonies on the moon with the industrial capability to mass produce sattelites. Could be a valuable seed technology for a Dyson Swarm.
Launching from Earths surface though? 
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Posted: 4/7/2024 5:54:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: That thrower idea might be useful once we have colonies on the moon with the industrial capability to mass produce sattelites. Could be a valuable seed technology for a Dyson Swarm. Launching from Earths surface though? Yeah, our gravity well is too deep. Also a thought for moon surface chucking would be linear accelerators. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:24:00 AM EDT
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/elon-musk-just-gave-another-mars-speech-this-time-the-vision-seems-tangible/?comments=1&comments-page=1
Article is great, comments are almost pure retardium. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:39:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/elon-musk-just-gave-another-mars-speech-this-time-the-vision-seems-tangible/?comments=1&comments-page=1 Article is great, comments are almost pure retardium. Yep. Ars is good for info, but the crowd that comments on articles is left wing batty. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:41:42 AM EDT
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Many are in dire need of a Chilean helicopter ride.
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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:52:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Yep. Ars is good for info, but the crowd that comments on articles is left wing batty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/elon-musk-just-gave-another-mars-speech-this-time-the-vision-seems-tangible/?comments=1&comments-page=1 Article is great, comments are almost pure retardium. Yep. Ars is good for info, but the crowd that comments on articles is left wing batty. It was amusing watching the comment section turn on Elon over the years. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: It was amusing watching the comment section turn on Elon over the years. They are for/against the current thing like good little bots, whatever their NPC programmers command. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:31:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: They are for/against the current thing like good little bots, whatever their NPC programmers command. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: It was amusing watching the comment section turn on Elon over the years. They are for/against the current thing like good little bots, whatever their NPC programmers command. That said, if someone like Musk actually builds a city on Mars, anyone going to live there would have to understand that democracy is NOT going to be an option. I don't think the people pointing that out are necessarily crazy - it's a valid point. The best analogy is probably a robber baron company town. Personally, I would not have a problem with that, but I can understand why some would. If you are used to the nice cushy existence in a civilized western representative/democratic country and you EXPECT that kind of life, then living on Mars, or in the Asteroid belt or whatever - it NOT going to be a nice experience for you. Heck, a lot of people on this site would be unable to live there, since "muh freedoms" and "muh guns" and "muh individual liberty" is not going to be something that Elon Musk has time to give a fuck about if he is trying to create a viable extra-Earth large settlement. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:38:43 PM EDT
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Look, I get to run out an airlock and blast my phased array laser at the natives when I want or I'm not going.
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:42:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: That said, if someone like Musk actually builds a city on Mars, anyone going to live there would have to understand that democracy is NOT going to be an option. I don't think the people pointing that out are necessarily crazy - it's a valid point. The best analogy is probably a robber baron company town. Personally, I would not have a problem with that, but I can understand why some would. If you are used to the nice cushy existence in a civilized western representative/democratic country and you EXPECT that kind of life, then living on Mars, or in the Asteroid belt or whatever - it NOT going to be a nice experience for you. Heck, a lot of people on this site would be unable to live there, since "muh freedoms" and "muh guns" and "muh individual liberty" is not going to be something that Elon Musk has time to give a fuck about if he is trying to create a viable extra-Earth large settlement. I don’t know, I don’t see this scenario happening for a bunch of different reasons. Reason number one being that in those robber baron company towns it was never an option for one well motivated person to kill everyone there with one well placed act of sabotage. It seems there’s quite a lot of science fiction that anticipates that the first few settlements will be run by robber barons and that they will fail spectacularly because of that. Then there will be later waves of colonization that operate on different rules. Usually leaning heavily utopian or dystopian. That said I don’t know how the early colonization of the solar system is going to go. I anticipate there will be a lot of telecommuting since it’s easier to keep robots alive in hard vacuum than squishy human beings. Space is an environment which has a very different set of priorities compared to life on the ground and we are still learning how to survive there. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 12:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: Yeah, our gravity well is too deep. Also a thought for moon surface chucking would be linear accelerators. Controlled by a HOLMES IV supercomputer? |
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