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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:37:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Looks like you need the shade of blue your using, then some with a lot more grey in it to make it a steel blue, a darker gunmetal blue, along with some brown and beige. And a 0.05㎜ airbrush needle/nozzle, along with a sadistic nature, which goes without saying. https://i.imgur.com/jEaIu30.jpg 
They've been using several variations of blue, several with grey in them. Several of the pictures show the different blues on each rock. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Keep in mind the air pressure on Mars is pretty close to zero - even though it gets up to 72 degrees F in the summer on the equator, even w/ an oxygen mask on you couldn't stand outside w/o a pressure suit on. That means unless there is a lower pressure inside the habitats (likely), sea level Earth atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. That means the pressure on closed doors is rather tremendous - tons of force. It's likely b/c of that fact, habitats on Mars would run a partial pressure atmosphere w/ a higher concentration of oxygen, much like the Apollo program did - that still leaves a tremendous amount of pressure on flat surfaces. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
You trying to get me killed an buried out in the field behind the HS??????
They've been using several variations of blue, several with grey in them. Several of the pictures show the different blues on each rock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: Looks like you need the shade of blue your using, then some with a lot more grey in it to make it a steel blue, a darker gunmetal blue, along with some brown and beige. And a 0.05㎜ airbrush needle/nozzle, along with a sadistic nature, which goes without saying. https://i.imgur.com/jEaIu30.jpg
They've been using several variations of blue, several with grey in them. Several of the pictures show the different blues on each rock.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 4:02:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Wouldn't several layers of doors negate that problem? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Keep in mind the air pressure on Mars is pretty close to zero - even though it gets up to 72 degrees F in the summer on the equator, even w/ an oxygen mask on you couldn't stand outside w/o a pressure suit on. That means unless there is a lower pressure inside the habitats (likely), sea level Earth atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. That means the pressure on closed doors is rather tremendous - tons of force. It's likely b/c of that fact, habitats on Mars would run a partial pressure atmosphere w/ a higher concentration of oxygen, much like the Apollo program did - that still leaves a tremendous amount of pressure on flat surfaces. Interior doors could be flat, but anything facing out while holding pressure in will want to look like a balloon, so starting out with a 'domed' airlock is stronger and less material thickness/weight is needed to keep it from failing. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 9:45:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762: Wouldn't several layers of doors negate that problem?
The long answer is no, your airlocks will only have 2 doors - both doors having to support the full internal atmospheric pressure against the near vacuum of Mars, depending on the condition of the airlock. The Apollo program, not using airlocks, chose to use a partial pressure atmosphere below 14.7 psi, but w/ a higher concentration of oxygen. The Space Shuttle, the Soviet/Russian space program, and the ISS all use/used full atmospheric pressure and airlocks. I'm just looking @ your rounded habitat/igloos - one looked as if there was not an airlock at one entrance, as if it was just walled off. With the tons of force on that wall, holding in your atmosphere, you're probably not going to have a flat wall. ETA: this hut would likely not have 3 airlocks: 
A given structure might have two - one primary and one backup, but smaller structures would just have a single airlock. If that airlock fails, you put your pressure suit on and walk out. Hopefully the Pressure Inspector insured there were enough spare pressure suits in that structure to match the placarded Maximum Capacity, or everyone's gonna have to draw straws... |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:06:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: If you've got to go outside to take a piss @ 0300 Mars Time, do you want to have to go through several airlocks?
The long answer is no, your airlocks will only have 2 doors - both doors having to support the full internal atmospheric pressure against the near vacuum of Mars, depending on the condition of the airlock. The Apollo program, not using airlocks, chose to use a partial pressure atmosphere below 14.7 psi, but w/ a higher concentration of oxygen. The Space Shuttle, the Soviet/Russian space program, and the ISS all use/used full atmospheric pressure and airlocks. I'm just looking @ your rounded habitat/igloos - one looked as if there was not an airlock at one entrance, as if it was just walled off. With the tons of force on that wall, holding in your atmosphere, you're probably not going to have a flat wall. ETA: this hut would likely not have 3 airlocks: https://i.imgur.com/rBmSZRb.jpg A given structure might have two - one primary and one backup, but smaller structures would just have a single airlock. If that airlock fails, you put your pressure suit on and walk out. Hopefully the Pressure Inspector insured there were enough spare pressure suits in that structure to match the placarded Maximum Capacity, or everyone's gonna have to draw straws... And really???? 
You dont recognize Luke's home on Tatooine??
We are going to leave that hut in its basic shape. The doors will be recessed to keep up the originals look. 
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:27:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Ok, gotcha... And really????
You dont recognize Luke's home on Tatooine??
We are going to leave that hut in its basic shape. The doors will be recessed to keep up the originals look. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By backbencher: If you've got to go outside to take a piss @ 0300 Mars Time, do you want to have to go through several airlocks?
The long answer is no, your airlocks will only have 2 doors - both doors having to support the full internal atmospheric pressure against the near vacuum of Mars, depending on the condition of the airlock. The Apollo program, not using airlocks, chose to use a partial pressure atmosphere below 14.7 psi, but w/ a higher concentration of oxygen. The Space Shuttle, the Soviet/Russian space program, and the ISS all use/used full atmospheric pressure and airlocks. I'm just looking @ your rounded habitat/igloos - one looked as if there was not an airlock at one entrance, as if it was just walled off. With the tons of force on that wall, holding in your atmosphere, you're probably not going to have a flat wall. ETA: this hut would likely not have 3 airlocks: https://i.imgur.com/rBmSZRb.jpg A given structure might have two - one primary and one backup, but smaller structures would just have a single airlock. If that airlock fails, you put your pressure suit on and walk out. Hopefully the Pressure Inspector insured there were enough spare pressure suits in that structure to match the placarded Maximum Capacity, or everyone's gonna have to draw straws... And really????
You dont recognize Luke's home on Tatooine??
We are going to leave that hut in its basic shape. The doors will be recessed to keep up the originals look. 
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:29:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Freiheit338]
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762: Ok, gotcha...
And really????
You dont recognize Luke's home on Tatooine??
We are going to leave that hut in its basic shape. The doors will be recessed to keep up the originals look. You could add airlocks at each entrance - make it the entrance for an underground habitat. If it's on a shelf like some of your Wyoming scenes, you could have Uncle Owen's house on top, the habitat underneath... Don't forget the exercise wheel...
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Oh, I do - but Tatooine had a breathable, human-tolerable pressure atmosphere; unfortunately, Mars does not. You could add airlocks at each entrance - make it the entrance for an underground habitat. If it's on a shelf like some of your Wyoming scenes, you could have Uncle Owen's house on top, the habitat underneath... Don't forget the exercise wheel... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By guns762: Ok, gotcha...
And really????
You dont recognize Luke's home on Tatooine??
We are going to leave that hut in its basic shape. The doors will be recessed to keep up the originals look. You could add airlocks at each entrance - make it the entrance for an underground habitat. If it's on a shelf like some of your Wyoming scenes, you could have Uncle Owen's house on top, the habitat underneath... Don't forget the exercise wheel... |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:12:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Remember, this exhibit has Mars, tatooine, and Wyoming crunched together with a Florida (or CA) launch facility, so don't be too literal, it IS art. I try to take the time to explain why we do things the way we do, but he shakes his head and restates his facts. He was not happy about Star Wars figures used as pilots last year.
This year, hes not happy about Marvin The Martian being in the display. He says it doesn't belong. Non-literal aspects are one of the tougher things to explain to many many people. Even some students who work on the displays dont like it when something isnt literal enough for them. 
Some of the teachers are the worst.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:15:35 PM EDT
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On that same note.....
If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:16:32 PM EDT
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Maybe the Lars home is modular, and the extra openings are set up for expansion.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:45:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
On that same note..... If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 2:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
There is wind and clouds on Mars. One of the early probes couldn't see anything because a dust storm had covered the whole planet, and the rovers have taken pictures of clouds from the surface. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
Originally Posted By guns762:
On that same note..... If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:01:59 PM EDT
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Clouds are water vapor, usually.
But winds are the effect of heated and cooled air masses. Mars (last I knew) does not have enough free water to allow clouds to form, but does have enough atmosphere to generate sandstorms. Iirc, it was during one of these storms that Mr Watley had his troubles. But I don't know how far off you can see these sandstorms. Or if they dissipate like "habobs". So I'm guessing you could have an occluded horizon due to a distant sandstorm, but not a cloudy one due to water vapor. But can your audience tell the difference? Science, rescue us! 
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:17:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mak_380:
Clouds are water vapor, usually. But winds are the effect of heated and cooled air masses. Mars (last I knew) does not have enough free water to allow clouds to form, but does have enough atmosphere to generate sandstorms. Iirc, it was during one of these storms that Mr Watley had his troubles. But I don't know how far off you can see these sandstorms. Or if they dissipate like "habobs". So I'm guessing you could have an occluded horizon due to a distant sandstorm, but not a cloudy one due to water vapor. But can your audience tell the difference? Science, rescue us! Just a thought, never tried anything like that, but trying to think on ways to simulate atmospheric distortion without going hi tech since I know Gunz doesn't do hi tech (That, and I honestly can't think of a hi tech way, anyway, other than a holographic projection, which means it would need to be invented...) |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
There is wind and clouds on Mars. One of the early probes couldn't see anything because a dust storm had covered the whole planet, and the rovers have taken pictures of clouds from the surface. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
Originally Posted By guns762:
On that same note..... If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html 
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Posted: 10/26/2019 3:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Guns need to get his students to learn how to make strato cirrus clouds instead of those fluffy cumulus ones. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By hoosierhick:
Originally Posted By guns762:
On that same note..... If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html 
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Posted: 10/26/2019 4:06:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
I'll work on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By hoosierhick:
Originally Posted By guns762:
On that same note..... If I remember correctly there is no wind on Mars and no clouds? Right? I think our WY sunset clouds are going to fade out into the Martian scene. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/clouds.html Practice on paper with very, very tiny paintflow, the HVLP can literally do airbrush level detail work at low pressure and paint volume and close distance. I used them on rifles and shotguns all the time to make grass and leaves, so don't be afraid to experiment! If the one you have has a nozzle over 1mm, I might need to get you one with the 0.7mm or so. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 7:49:10 PM EDT
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@ Guns
So tell me/us just who Marvin is sighting on to blast away? I would think you would have his rocket aimed at Earth, the clock. Also, he’s a fictional cartoon character and I personally don’t like his evil eyes expression. Maybe y’all could “Soften” it up into a “What, where’s the big kaboom”. Just my .002.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 9:11:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jarhead13:
@ Guns So tell me/us just who Marvin is sighting on to blast away? I would think you would have his rocket aimed at Earth, the clock. Also, he’s a fictional cartoon character and I personally don’t like his evil eyes expression. Maybe y’all could “Soften” it up into a “What, where’s the big kaboom”. Just my .002.
Marvin isn't really "sighting in", he's riding his rocket down to Earth, spying on it, as we do Mars. "Earth" is more than just the clock on the wall. The futuristic tractor will be on Earth too. As are the shelves right below him. We are also hoping to create a field of FFA trophies under the shelves. I'm hoping some pick up on the Dr. Strangelove reference with his pose, but also tie him to our Wyoming bucking horse logo, when we give him his cowboy hat. Marvin's rocket may look like a bomb to some, but it also shows how we've come full circle to our rocket designs, with SpaceX and it taking off and landing like the old cartoons. Is Marvin angry/intense? I suppose, but that fits his original interaction with Bugs, and Earth interfering with his view of Venus.
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Posted: 10/26/2019 11:14:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kpel308]
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For the Dr. Strangelove vibe, may I suggest "HI THERE" be painted on the nose of Marvin's rocket in the same style?
"ILLUDIUM Q-36 SPACE MODULATOR HANDLE WITH CARE" might take up too much space, but might be a nice touch |
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Posted: 10/27/2019 10:41:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_of_Orion]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Were (are) there clouds on Mars before Quaid?  Yes... 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_of_Orion:
https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/22497/curiositys-three-frame-mosaic-of-clouds/ Yes... https://mars.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/22497_PIA23243-1000w.gif 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 8:22:39 PM EDT
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Thanks for the cloud, dust storms, and even dust devel reference pictures fellas!!! I talked to the students today and they were, "We told you so!!." Update 10/28 Our tractor design is close to done. They will begin slicing it up so we can ha e the slices CNC'd out of plywood. We will then begin assembly of the parts. 
New solar panel rework. Students printed these, and are now gluing them on the matboard. We wil clearcoat them at some point, then mount them on posts. 
Our drilling rig is closer to done being printed. Details will be added soon. 
Mural work has begun, but we have to already make a few changes. Position is going to be kind of a pain, as we are working all the parts into a passable composition. 
Blue rock painting continues, and is now being done in a second shelf. 
This piece is looking very good so far. Students are working on different buildings but making sure they fit together in the same composition. Lots of teamwork. 
Prepping the capsule for paint. 
More water being added. 
Base coat paint is done and ready for details. 
We think we now have a tank big enough for our grow lights and a few planters. 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 9:07:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Thanks for the cloud, dust storms, and even dust devel reference pictures fellas!!! I talked to the students today and they were, "We told you so!!." Update 10/28 Our tractor design is close to done. They will begin slicing it up so we can ha e the slices CNC'd out of plywood. We will then begin assembly of the parts. https://i.imgur.com/i3alIxl.jpg New solar panel rework. Students printed these, and are now gluing them on the matboard. We wil clearcoat them at some point, then mount them on posts. https://i.imgur.com/wF6kmTn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sxk18hO.jpg Our drilling rig is closer to done being printed. Details will be added soon. https://i.imgur.com/QqZtpN7.jpg Mural work has begun, but we have to already make a few changes. Position is going to be kind of a pain, as we are working all the parts into a passable composition. https://i.imgur.com/fiUySg6.jpg Blue rock painting continues, and is now being done in a second shelf. https://i.imgur.com/1zgVSiG.jpg This piece is looking very good so far. Students are working on different buildings but making sure they fit together in the same composition. Lots of teamwork. https://i.imgur.com/KBACrUC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sSsYevs.jpg Prepping the capsule for paint. https://i.imgur.com/U6ITKUY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/suTaBi7.jpg More water being added. https://i.imgur.com/K4jmyUq.jpg Base coat paint is done and ready for details. https://i.imgur.com/MRtGXVH.jpg We think we now have a tank big enough for our grow lights and a few planters. https://i.imgur.com/sG3U8Aw.jpg Grey (any mid-tone) paint shows most any prep flaw, gloss amplifies it by about 10. I'd add another skim of mud/putty, sand, then after a day of cure re-check with primer, but I'm a perfectionist (that doesn't have to actually do anything in this particular instance). Some of those may be so shallow that you could get away with sanding it smooth, using the paint itself as filler, and going from there. A primer is supposed to have enough body for that to remove 600 grit sanding marks (filler primers can do more, but isn't really available in rattle cans). --ETA: After looking at full resolution... 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 9:12:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: https://i.imgur.com/suTaBi7.jpg Grey (any mid-tone) paint shows most any prep flaw, gloss amplifies it by about 10. I'd add another skim of mud/putty, sand, then after a day of cure re-check with primer, but I'm a perfectionist (that doesn't have to actually do anything in this particular instance).
I'm also glad we didn't use "aluminum" spray paint, although it would be closer to the right finish. We will see what students want to do tomorrow when it's dry. We might add a little more, just depends in what we've got in the queue. I had to look up the spelling of that.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:49:46 PM EDT
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@guns, why did y’all install the windows on the rocket before ya painted it??
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Posted: 10/29/2019 7:49:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jarhead13:
@guns, why did y’all install the windows on the rocket before ya painted it?? |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:48:51 AM EDT
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Update 10/30
It was a hectic day yesterday. We got one more shelf up, but with fitting problems. 
We've still got a bit to do to make it fit correctly, but it's up. 
Our murals are progressing, but need some adjustment. 
We did get the planter mounted on the larger Mars shelf. 
The grow light is getting reconditioned, but this is how it will fit. 
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Posted: 10/30/2019 2:00:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/30 It was a hectic day yesterday. We got one more shelf up, but with fitting problems.
We've still got a bit to do to make it fit correctly, but it's up. https://i.imgur.com/mNfQJgT.jpg Our murals are progressing, but need some adjustment. https://i.imgur.com/86peaE9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wruq7QR.jpg We did get the planter mounted on the larger Mars shelf. https://i.imgur.com/FlxjQ21.jpg The grow light is getting reconditioned, but this is how it will fit. https://i.imgur.com/AwmDUEs.jpg  
https://smile.amazon.com/Mosthink-Dimmable-Gardening-Seedlings-Greenhouse/dp/B07QHYKZQF |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 4:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Maybe for scale and longer lifetime? www.amazon.com/dp/B07QHYKZQFhttps://smile.amazon.com/Mosthink-Dimmable-Gardening-Seedlings-Greenhouse/dp/B07QHYKZQF Much better option. I ordered a set. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 4:14:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Thanks brass! Much better option. I ordered a set. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: Maybe for scale and longer lifetime? www.amazon.com/dp/B07QHYKZQFhttps://smile.amazon.com/Mosthink-Dimmable-Gardening-Seedlings-Greenhouse/dp/B07QHYKZQF Much better option. I ordered a set.
I didn't search for anything beyond "mini LED plant grow light" and that was the first one under $20 I saw. I didn't even look at the reviews, it was the pitcher, but, uh, I hope they work out well! |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 7:45:16 PM EDT
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Ummm, isn't the surface of Mars the inverse of Earth's? Shouldn't the Mars landscape shelves be upside down?
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Posted: 10/30/2019 7:55:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Ummm, isn't the surface of Mars the inverse of Earth's? Shouldn't the Mars landscape shelves be upside down? |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:05:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: It's Mars, not Australia. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:13:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Ohhh. It's like out by Utah somewhere? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By brass: It's Mars, not Australia. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:31:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Well, I didn't mean THAT set, but the idea that photo represented.
I didn't search for anything beyond "mini LED plant grow light" and that was the first one under $20 I saw. I didn't even look at the reviews, it was the pitcher, but, uh, I hope they work out well! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: Maybe for scale and longer lifetime? www.amazon.com/dp/B07QHYKZQFhttps://smile.amazon.com/Mosthink-Dimmable-Gardening-Seedlings-Greenhouse/dp/B07QHYKZQF Much better option. I ordered a set.
I didn't search for anything beyond "mini LED plant grow light" and that was the first one under $20 I saw. I didn't even look at the reviews, it was the pitcher, but, uh, I hope they work out well!
I guess we will see.
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Posted: 10/30/2019 8:39:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
I guess we will see. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass: Maybe for scale and longer lifetime? www.amazon.com/dp/B07QHYKZQFhttps://smile.amazon.com/Mosthink-Dimmable-Gardening-Seedlings-Greenhouse/dp/B07QHYKZQF Much better option. I ordered a set.
I didn't search for anything beyond "mini LED plant grow light" and that was the first one under $20 I saw. I didn't even look at the reviews, it was the pitcher, but, uh, I hope they work out well!
I guess we will see. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:02:26 PM EDT
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Update 10/30.2
Real progress on the SpaceX Superheavy rocket today. More sanding and filling on the nose and front fins. 
Back side will never be seen by most, but they worked on them anyway. 
These are going to be difficult to position properly.  This will probably be how they will be displayed.
Raptor engines being positioned. 
For the bottom fins we are using Keymod like strategy to secure them to the fuselage.
This is a first step. There will more more support and contouring coming. 
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Posted: 10/31/2019 12:24:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/30.2 Real progress on the SpaceX Superheavy rocket today. More sanding and filling on the nose and front fins. https://i.imgur.com/1GW1PiR.jpg Back side will never be seen by most, but they worked on them anyway.
https://i.imgur.com/KWWpA9d.jpg These are going to be difficult to position properly. This will probably be how they will be displayed.
https://i.imgur.com/jumlX5U.jpg Raptor engines being positioned. https://i.imgur.com/fIMK7Kj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FpdA6Ba.jpg For the bottom fins we are using Keymod like strategy to secure them to the fuselage.
https://i.imgur.com/zPByAXj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/najCKZK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UOghSEU.jpg This is a first step. There will more more support and contouring coming. https://i.imgur.com/TIJpOPk.jpg
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Posted: 10/31/2019 9:44:07 AM EDT
[#43]
Update 10/31
Yesterday we rerouted the extension cord that will power our SpaceX rocket over the top of our Martian/Tatooine shelf. 
We also began fixing the mating of the shelf edge to the wall. This is going to be messy.  The dirt will not be fun to apply for texture.
Our solar panels are installed, and crooked , so they all came down and started over. Someday we will get all of the posts and panels facing the same direction . Shift One, and Shift Two may come to war over this.
Blue rocks, structure details continue on this Martian colony shelf. We did try lights on the inside of the larger dome. You couldn't see them.  We may add some portal holes, and add the lights again. I'll talk to my crew today and see what they think of the idea.
This is where our last shelf is developing. Students were working out where we wanted shapes for buildings and what we might add to them. 
Detail is intense on this portion. We may have to try to find a more visible point in the display. 
We are close to ready for small logo stickers on the pivot system. They are working on the final nozzle spray coming off the end. 
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Posted: 10/31/2019 9:46:25 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Brilliant idea for mounting the fins! There were several students who have AR's at home.
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Posted: 10/31/2019 1:20:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/31 Yesterday we rerouted the extension cord that will power our SpaceX rocket over the top of our Martian/Tatooine shelf. https://i.imgur.com/zLJVylq.jpg We also began fixing the mating of the shelf edge to the wall. This is going to be messy. The dirt will not be fun to apply for texture.
https://i.imgur.com/HkWPiPI.jpg Our solar panels are installed, and crooked , so they all came down and started over. Someday we will get all of the posts and panels facing the same direction. Shift One, and Shift Two may come to war over this.
https://i.imgur.com/VrJvhrV.jpg Blue rocks, structure details continue on this Martian colony shelf. We did try lights on the inside of the larger dome. You couldn't see them. We may add some portal holes, and add the lights again. I'll talk to my crew today and see what they think of the idea.
https://i.imgur.com/gq9KLpd.jpg This is where our last shelf is developing. Students were working out where we wanted shapes for buildings and what we might add to them. https://i.imgur.com/EPpDEPQ.jpg Detail is intense on this portion. We may have to try to find a more visible point in the display. https://i.imgur.com/fG1w9ls.jpg We are close to ready for small logo stickers on the pivot system. They are working on the final nozzle spray coming off the end. https://i.imgur.com/7ZZniyE.jpg |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 9:43:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#46]
Short day today, but I'm going to try to compile a list of brand names/building names that we need stickers for on our Martian colony buildings.
I've got the "Pur Kleen" label already.....what else? ETA: also, of course we have, Marv's Barley, NASA, and SpaceX labels already printed. Student ideas: "Red Rocks SuperMarsket" 
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Posted: 11/1/2019 10:22:52 AM EDT
[#47]
Update 11/1
Opening of deer season locally, so MANY of my students are gone today. Our SpaceX rocket is about ready to come down next week for base coat paint. We think the Starship aft wings will have to be attached after the fuselage is secured to the wall. We are going to work on filling out the bottom fins on the SuperHeavy booster today, and early next week. 
The Raptor engines all go installed yesterday, but I'm thinking we may have a slight fitment problem. We know that 6 of them stick out from the outside diameter of the fuselage, and we've planned to split them, so half fit on the outside of our lexan shield. 
Minor details still left on our pivot, but we have the stickers on there now. 
We have a plan on how we can make our lights show up. Portholes. 
Glass will be added later today or Monday. 
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Posted: 11/1/2019 12:08:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: redoubt]
[#48]
You need a Bradbury Hotel (Blade Runner, Martian Chronicles)
And in a nod to classic sci-fi movies of yore a Pan Am logo. 
ETA: I don't know how I forgot, a Weyland-Yutani logo. 
And maybe a Hadley's Hope sign on the road leading to the colony. 
You could make it a little more "old west" (boards and sticks, hand painted lettering) to tie it to the Wyoming theme. ETA 2: I forgot Blue Sun Corp. 
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Posted: 11/1/2019 12:40:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Since we're now in the month in which Bladerunner is set ...
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Posted: 11/1/2019 12:44:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Oh, yeah. You're going to need snacks and chocolate: 
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