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Link Posted: 1/20/2020 4:21:07 PM EDT
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any SHOT updates?
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 4:22:12 PM EDT
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LOL ... but seriously hows it suppress ?
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Want bad!
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 4:47:14 PM EDT
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I may order but I want extensive testing 1st. I bought an MCX as soon as they came out. That was a poor decision I won’t make again
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 4:53:19 PM EDT
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My son as been in front of the power curve on this. He put this together a couple of years ago with a pre-hate RRA upper and a custom adapter on the lower for the stock.

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Idk, between Faxon, brownells, serbu, oly, and RRA doing the bufferless upper conversions in the past and recent EWS bufferless bolt carrier group; I'm not sure how successful this will truly be. Maybe if they can get the upper under 400-500 it will take off this time.
I evidentially live under a rock...
My son as been in front of the power curve on this. He put this together a couple of years ago with a pre-hate RRA upper and a custom adapter on the lower for the stock.

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Looks great...
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:03:47 PM EDT
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Looks pretty good.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:22:17 PM EDT
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First thing I thought. If somebody makes a decent looking triangle stock I shall PSA pdw an sbrd lower..
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:25:20 PM EDT
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God damn, I always wanted one of those uppers just for the handguard.......
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:28:34 PM EDT
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Interesting but why bother? At that point you may as well build from the ground up. See the MCX.

I like that they're expanding but they seem like they might be pushing too hard. Get the AKs right, get those MP5s out, and we'll see about those Glock things. Seems like they have their plate full as is.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:28:39 PM EDT
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So it's a SCAR type upper for a standard lower?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284035/morty_jpg-1239721.JPG
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This.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 5:39:44 PM EDT
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American inability to design a decent folding stock receiver interface.
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Agp folding stock is a nice interface, could be used to make it look kac pdw too with a different stock style.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 6:37:31 PM EDT
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OST
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 6:44:10 PM EDT
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What is that handguard?    I'm really digging it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 6:56:25 PM EDT
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PSA-180?

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Looking forward to it, God bless the Free Market.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 7:12:46 PM EDT
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I’m gonna fo.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 7:26:45 PM EDT
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What is that handguard?    I'm really digging it.
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What is that handguard?    I'm really digging it.
it's the original ZM LR-300 design, they sold off to para ordnance I think

it'd be cool if someone released one for this new PSA upper



source of pic https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/9td1cp/the_extremely_rare_zm_lr300_the_first_truly/
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 7:32:52 PM EDT
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it's the original ZM LR-300 design, they sold off to para ordnance I think

it'd be cool if someone released one for this new PSA upper

https://external-preview.redd.it/sxdcOUdEnc7UZilBRrHq-R7ORFdkbTKPYnylREeE_cs.jpg?auto=webp&s=3c35eb3235ab758bbc60e4657762005fbf0c4af5

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Think it was "nylatron" or nylon 6
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 7:33:41 PM EDT
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This.
Im not holding out too much hope, but I am hoping this also comes in a 16" version too.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 9:42:11 PM EDT
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any SHOT updates?
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Link Posted: 1/20/2020 9:44:33 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly, only makes me want it more.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 10:44:37 PM EDT
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I'm seriously interested in this upper and eagerly awaiting additional info.
Link Posted: 1/20/2020 10:58:15 PM EDT
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do want
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:15:22 PM EDT
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charging handle is on the wrong side.
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:22:53 PM EDT
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Why do gun people bitch about new products?
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:23:11 PM EDT
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Is this the same design as the ARFcom 10th Anniversary SEBR?

Anyone?
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:34:07 PM EDT
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What barrel lengths?

I'm IN on a 300 BLK around 8"
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:41:02 PM EDT
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Interesting but why bother? At that point you may as well build from the ground up. See the MCX.

I like that they're expanding but they seem like they might be pushing too hard. Get the AKs right, get those MP5s out, and we'll see about those Glock things. Seems like they have their plate full as is.
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Really? MCX will set you back $1500-2000 based on a very quick innerweb search.

Not sure I really care about this as a full gun, but you can get this upper and throw it on an existing SBR or pistol lower, which makes for a very small/neat package. Not sure on price yet but if it sticks with PSA's model it will be extremely affordable.

My HD gun is a 300 BLK 8" pistol. If these run right it would be nice to have the same thing but have the ability to fold it. Adjustable gas is also good to have.
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:48:39 PM EDT
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Want in .300
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:50:37 PM EDT
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Ice-nine
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:52:07 PM EDT
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I hope it is lighter than the Sig Rattler
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 7:59:49 PM EDT
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Will they charge extra for purplish anodizing or does it come standard?

Will the charge more to ship the upper than they do 6 stripped lowers?
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 8:06:57 PM EDT
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Will they charge extra for purplish anodizing or does it come standard?

Will the charge more to ship the upper than they do 6 stripped lowers?
I hope so!
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 8:09:44 PM EDT
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Brownells just announced brn-180 lowers with a built-in pic rail for folding stocks. These two are made for eachother.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/brownells-announces-new-brn-180-lowers-and-brn-180s-short-barrel-upper/amp/
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 8:44:19 PM EDT
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You do know what a fudd is, right?

Since when do fudds rock meme lowers?
When would a fudd would build anything beyond a lever or bolt action?
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An a ARFcommer referring to someone as a "Fudd" is now like a leftist referring to someone as a "fascist," in that the term has become totally divorced from its original meaning and now just means "somebody I don't like."
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 9:35:23 PM EDT
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Where is the PSA MP5 Clone?! Plus More -- Shot Show 2020
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 9:48:18 PM EDT
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Still don’t know the price range of the jakl
Link Posted: 1/21/2020 10:51:37 PM EDT
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Don't forget the humble Kel-tec PLR-16, which is the only one still in production and selling well. The fact they cost under $450 new probably helps a lot. I love mine, especially with a folding brace on it.
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I evidentially live under a rock...
Eh it's been a pretty regularly attempted product concept, every couple years it seems like someone comes out with a new "fix". I'm sure there is probably a few other ones I've forgot to include, think there were a couple more released during the early 2000s

Faxon
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/Screenshot_20200118-174330_Samsung_Inter-1239783.JPG

Serbu
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/Screenshot_20200118-174434_Samsung_Inter-1239785.JPG

Brownells
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/Screenshot_20200118-174532_Samsung_Inter-1239787.JPG

RRA
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/Screenshot_20200118-174716_Samsung_Inter-1239788.JPG

Oly
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/Screenshot_20200118-174614_Samsung_Inter-1239791.JPG
Don't forget the humble Kel-tec PLR-16, which is the only one still in production and selling well. The fact they cost under $450 new probably helps a lot. I love mine, especially with a folding brace on it.
The Olympic Arms OA93 is still being produced.
Also, missing is the JARD J23 which has been around for years and is still being produced:
https://www.jardinc.com/jard-ar-15-folding-stock-wleft-charging-handle-1-2-1
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 1:57:13 AM EDT
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Not the same thing, PSA JAKl is different by miles. That Oly Arms is a bufferless direct impingement gun. The JAKL is a long stroke piston system.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 1:59:19 AM EDT
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@Finslayer

Palmetto State Armory PSAK-E, PSA5, PS9 Dagger, PSA JAKL - SHOT Show 2020
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 2:57:17 AM EDT
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So they've said Q3 for an estimated release date and aren't discussing pricing yet. Have they released any details on how much it weighs? It looks very similar in size and dimensions to the KAC PDW which weighs 4.5 pounds, but that gun has a dimpled barrel.



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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 2:59:33 AM EDT
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Version 4, but then you’ve still gotta buy the Premium

I do like this trend of foldable AR’s.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:23:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:27:06 AM EDT
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In for the shortest barrel length in 300 BLK if somebody knows. Other manufacturers have tried and been unsuccessful doing a very short 300 BLK with a long stroke piston system.

Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:27:55 AM EDT
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LOL, yeah, I wasn’t gonna open that can of worms but all the h8ters come out every time there’s a piston AR thread ... except when they don’t.

I’m a huge piston AR fan and I’m interested in seeing if this ever comes to fruition!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:37:08 AM EDT
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LOL, yeah, I wasn’t gonna open that can of worms but all the h8ters come out every time there’s a piston AR thread ... except when they don’t.

I’m a huge piston AR fan and I’m interested in seeing if this ever comes to fruition!
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LOL, yeah, I wasn’t gonna open that can of worms but all the h8ters come out every time there’s a piston AR thread ... except when they don’t.

I’m a huge piston AR fan and I’m interested in seeing if this ever comes to fruition!
@rsolomon

Keep your eyes in Superlative Arms as well. They are releasing a short 300 BLK barrelled piston upper (already was supposed to be out). Not sure about final configuration or length yet.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:40:36 AM EDT
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Well yeah, it uses an AR-15 lower. Let's be honest though, it's hard to call it an "AR-15."
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 4:11:50 AM EDT
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In for the shortest barrel length in 300 BLK if somebody knows. Other manufacturers have tried and been unsuccessful doing a very short 300 BLK with a long stroke piston system.

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7.5" Long Stroke
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In for the shortest barrel length in 300 BLK if somebody knows. Other manufacturers have tried and been unsuccessful doing a very short 300 BLK with a long stroke piston system.

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7.5" Long Stroke
Thanks for the link!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 5:56:04 AM EDT
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Keep your eyes in Superlative Arms as well. They are releasing a short 300 BLK barrelled piston upper (already was supposed to be out). Not sure about final configuration or length yet.
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LOL, yeah, I wasn’t gonna open that can of worms but all the h8ters come out every time there’s a piston AR thread ... except when they don’t.

I’m a huge piston AR fan and I’m interested in seeing if this ever comes to fruition!
@rsolomon

Keep your eyes in Superlative Arms as well. They are releasing a short 300 BLK barrelled piston upper (already was supposed to be out). Not sure about final configuration or length yet.
Yeah, in 300BO pistons I've already got a PWS MK109 (9" long-stroke) and an Adams UA-9.5-P-XLP-EVO-300BLK (9.5" short-stroke) but neither of those are "bufferless"
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:06:23 AM EDT
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I have a Serbu AR15 lower assembled with a folding stock that was supposed to be for the SU15 upper. Don't know if that will happen.
Would like to get a PSA upper for it instead.
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