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Quoted: You're not buying a handgun in nys without a current permit or current police or peace officer status. There is always debate here on the forum as to whether LEOSA allows a retired LEO someone to move into NYS as a permanent resident and possess the handgun without a nys permit. I wouldn't care to be a test case. NYS also has the safe act stuff to deal with for retirees, which is a whole 'nother ball of twine View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Forgive me, I wasn’t clear. I meant as a resident of the state of NY, I think you need your permit in order to acquire a handgun. Maybe Tc556 can clarify, but I don’t think you can buy a gun with retiree credentials. You're not buying a handgun in nys without a current permit or current police or peace officer status. There is always debate here on the forum as to whether LEOSA allows a retired LEO someone to move into NYS as a permanent resident and possess the handgun without a nys permit. I wouldn't care to be a test case. NYS also has the safe act stuff to deal with for retirees, which is a whole 'nother ball of twine Interesting..... So if I retired and decided to move to upstate NY LEOSA wouldn’t allow me to possess any handguns to include the one I’m qualified with? |
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A huge farce, and because they let morons (mostly lawyers) who have no clue about law enforcement, nor the carrying of firearms, draft the proposal and vote it in, and as always, the laws are ambiguous. I truly believe that any legislative active should require the main participants to have specific knowledge about what they are trying to accomplish, before they act on it.
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last i heard there was no credentialing program in effect for retired MAs so no way to get approval. has it changed since 2012 ?
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Quoted: What are the perks over LEOSA? In TX I don’t open carry, so my LTC doesn’t benefit me there. I do like to buy and trade guns, skipping NICS is nice but not a deal breaker. As I posted earlier, I can visit my home state of Illinois without having to research reciprocal agreements, and I can drive anywhere in the country confident that my 43x meets all state laws. View Quote LEOSA supposedly, allows the carry in all the states. I know both shitcago, and New York have come out and said they are not honoring it. I don't know if anyone has tested it yet in those hell holes. A California cop, some years ago, was arrested in Sturgis, following a shooting of a biker gang member in a fight. He was in jail a day or two before LEOSA came into play where he was allowed to be carrying, and had to be released without any charges. |
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Quoted: Ha! As if Republicans really give a shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nothing against LEOSA. Just wish there was a way for all law abiding Americans to legally carry concealed in all 50 states. Agreed... National reciprocity missed by one vote under Obama.... I was sure trump would have thrown us a bone and done this and the hearing protection act.... especially when both houses were in the control of the GOP. No kidding! It passed the house, but McConnell wouldn’t bring it up in the senate. ![]() |
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Quoted: LOL the good old LEOSA. The Coast Guard legal office practically ran as quick as they could to tell us it didn't apply to USCG federal law enforcement officers... because the Coast Guard doesn't issue badges with credentials to designate law enforcement officers. Thanks guys, really did us a solid. View Quote LOL.... the USCG never really was pro LEOSA. NEW YORK VS. BENJAMIN L. BOOTH Decided: May 29, 2008 Why it matters: Before the LEOSA was amended in 2013 to include qualified military personnel if they possessed an approved photo ID, this case affirmed the privileges of Coast Guard members to carry concealed weapons if they met other criteria. The Facts: Defendant Benjamin L. Booth was stopped for driving 40 mph in a 30 mph zone. An officer searched his vehicle and found a loaded Glock handgun under the driver’s seat. The magazine contained 12 rounds, with an additional round in the chamber. The defendant stated he did not have a license to possess a firearm. After being arrested, brought to the station and being read his Miranda rights, the defendant stated that he had received a waiver from the Coast Guard to use the firearm to practice shooting. Lieutenant Benjamin W. Stevenson of the U.S. Coast Guard testified regarding the duties of the defendant as a member of the Coast Guard. According to Stevenson, the defendant was permitted to carry a weapon when conducting operations for the Coast Guard. He was required to be in uniform and carry a badge and ID card while conducting operations. The defendant was also authorized to make arrests and take part in law enforcement. His authority to carry a weapon did not extend beyond his role as a member of the Coast Guard, and he was not permitted to carry a concealed weapon while out of uniform. Conclusions: Although the defendant broke the rules of the U.S. Coast Guard by possessing a handgun without a license, he is exempt from prosecution from New York State Law as a result of LEOSA. The evidence presented at the hearing showed that Booth was a qualified LEO who possessed photographic ID issued by the Coast Guard. As the defendant was fully qualified as an officer of the law and met all of the necessary criteria outlined by LEOSA, he is exempt from prosecution. |
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Quoted: Could you cite and quote? I can't find it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's right in the language of the legislation Could you cite and quote? I can't find it. 18 U.S. Code §?926C.Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified retired law enforcement officers (c)As used in this section, the term “qualified retired law enforcement officer” means an individual who— (1)separated from service in good standing from service with a public agency as a law enforcement officer; (2)before such separation, was authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and had statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice); (3) (A)before such separation, served as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of 10 years or more; or (B)separated from service with such agency, after completing any applicable probationary period of such service, due to a service-connected disability, as determined by such agency; |
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Quoted: last i heard there was no credentialing program in effect for retired MAs so no way to get approval. has it changed since 2012 ? View Quote @larsonous Assuming you mean Navy MAs. Navy LEOSA |
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Quoted: Quoted: last i heard there was no credentialing program in effect for retired MAs so no way to get approval. has it changed since 2012 ? @larsonous Assuming you mean Navy MAs. Navy LEOSA |
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Quoted: Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I spent a decade as a police officer in Texas. Quit in “97. Worked for 3 different agencies during that time. None of those agencies will file LEOSA paperwork for me. One doesn’t even have records of when I worked there because city hall burned down a year or so after I left. I have my LTC which works well enough for my needs. Still. Wish I could have something from that time other than a bad back and bad knees. Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn’t provide for LEOSA. Is this new? |
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Quoted: I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn't provide for LEOSA. Is this new? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I spent a decade as a police officer in Texas. Quit in "97. Worked for 3 different agencies during that time. None of those agencies will file LEOSA paperwork for me. One doesn't even have records of when I worked there because city hall burned down a year or so after I left. I have my LTC which works well enough for my needs. Still. Wish I could have something from that time other than a bad back and bad knees. Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn't provide for LEOSA. Is this new? Florida has something similar to TCLEOSE. It is run by CJSTC and we call it the ATMS Global Profile. It lists your entire history. But the profile will only show what the agencies send in so if they screw up the info can be wrong. |
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Special laws for the King's Men? Yeah no. How about you stop fueling BLM with special snowflake shit like this?
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Quoted: 18 U.S. Code §?926C.Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified retired law enforcement officers (c)As used in this section, the term “qualified retired law enforcement officer” means an individual who— (1)separated from service in good standing from service with a public agency as a law enforcement officer; (2)before such separation, was authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and had statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice); (3) (A)before such separation, served as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of 10 years or more; or (B)separated from service with such agency, after completing any applicable probationary period of such service, due to a service-connected disability, as determined by such agency; View Quote Okay, I'll grant you that for retired, even though it doesn't say "commissioned" verbatim. But that only applies to LEOSA for retired LEOs. There is no corresponding requirement for non-retired LEOSA qualification. |
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Quoted: Quoted: even with LEOSA you'd probably still get thrown in jail if caught with a gun NJ Federal law trumps nj law We all know the stellar track record of states honoring Federal law, say for immigration for instance |
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Quoted: Okay, I'll grant you that for retired, even though it doesn't say "commissioned" verbatim. But that only applies to LEOSA for retired LEOs. There is no corresponding requirement for non-retired LEOSA qualification. View Quote What exactly are you disputing. A current officer will qualifying at whatever interval the agency sets. Agencies qualify current officers for obvious reasons. Plenty of case law on the issue, and some states seem to have it codified in law |
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Quoted: Yep, everyone should qualify for a VA loan and the GI Bill too, right? No need to actually join the military. If LEOSA was the only way to carry a weapon it would be worth getting upset over, but there are alternatives, often cheaper, than LEOSA. I would love to see a nationwide concealed carry program for all, but until then view LEOSA as a blue print and not something to be hated on. Build a nationwide program than will meet the need of every state. Some places have shooting requirements, some have education requirements, where I am in Washington state only requires a background check and $53 for every 5 years. One thing is for certain, anyone that worked in LE for 10+years has more than completed any education requirement for weapons carrying, in any state. And more over that education was documented and can likely be proven in court. These types of discussions invariably end up with one person shouting "God given right to carrry", one saying "I want what he has" and another saying "Don't hate the player, hate the game". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LEOSA= rules for thee but not for me. It has always irked me. I don't believe that chosen profession should grant you extra rights. Yep, everyone should qualify for a VA loan and the GI Bill too, right? No need to actually join the military. If LEOSA was the only way to carry a weapon it would be worth getting upset over, but there are alternatives, often cheaper, than LEOSA. I would love to see a nationwide concealed carry program for all, but until then view LEOSA as a blue print and not something to be hated on. Build a nationwide program than will meet the need of every state. Some places have shooting requirements, some have education requirements, where I am in Washington state only requires a background check and $53 for every 5 years. One thing is for certain, anyone that worked in LE for 10+years has more than completed any education requirement for weapons carrying, in any state. And more over that education was documented and can likely be proven in court. These types of discussions invariably end up with one person shouting "God given right to carrry", one saying "I want what he has" and another saying "Don't hate the player, hate the game". Man I don't understand how you guys make leaps like that and it's a bad argument tactic but I'll try and address your points. I am not talking about the GI Bill just like I don't have a problem with cop specific pensions. Every job has different benefits and programs associated with it. There's all kinds of weird stuff out there I wasn't aware of but LEOSA is the one we are discussing here. I am not aware of any similar program in terms bypassing state laws. I don't understand your view it as a blue print comment. Is it being used to leverage nationwide ccw? That is certainly not my perception and as mentioned it actually hurts our cause in my opinion as it removes a huge chunk of people from having any interest in furthering the cause. I agree that cops have been educated to the level of most ccw level classes. That's easy to do. We all know that weapons training is low on the priority list for cops with the exception of special teams type officers. These discussions definitely devolve but I think they're important. I think that bullshit should be called out regardless of where it lies. It's a pretty complicated discussion and the idea that a privilege needs to be stripped from the few to possible help the many obtain the same privilege is a crappy deal all around and certainly not a position I take lightly or without thought. I have never considered myself anti cop and don't want them punished or provoked. I truly believe that it's one of many things that is slowly eroding our rights and in the long term will not be in anyone's best interest. By granting special rights and segregating us it just makes it easier to grind us down. |
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Quoted: LEOSA supposedly, allows the carry in all the states. I know both shitcago, and New York have come out and said they are not honoring it. I don't know if anyone has tested it yet in those hell holes. A California cop, some years ago, was arrested in Sturgis, following a shooting of a biker gang member in a fight. He was in jail a day or two before LEOSA came into play where he was allowed to be carrying, and had to be released without any charges. View Quote Only time I had any issue was when they wouldn't let me into the Empire State Building because I was carrying. |
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Quoted: LEOSA supposedly, allows the carry in all the states. I know both shitcago, and New York have come out and said they are not honoring it. I don't know if anyone has tested it yet in those hell holes. A California cop, some years ago, was arrested in Sturgis, following a shooting of a biker gang member in a fight. He was in jail a day or two before LEOSA came into play where he was allowed to be carrying, and had to be released without any charges. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What are the perks over LEOSA? In TX I don’t open carry, so my LTC doesn’t benefit me there. I do like to buy and trade guns, skipping NICS is nice but not a deal breaker. As I posted earlier, I can visit my home state of Illinois without having to research reciprocal agreements, and I can drive anywhere in the country confident that my 43x meets all state laws. LEOSA supposedly, allows the carry in all the states. I know both shitcago, and New York have come out and said they are not honoring it. I don't know if anyone has tested it yet in those hell holes. A California cop, some years ago, was arrested in Sturgis, following a shooting of a biker gang member in a fight. He was in jail a day or two before LEOSA came into play where he was allowed to be carrying, and had to be released without any charges. What is your source that says Chicago will not honor LEOSA? I’ve carried under LEOSA in Chicago many times. Even bullshitted with Chicago cops about it. |
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Quoted: We all know the stellar track record of states honoring Federal law, say for immigration for instance View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: even with LEOSA you'd probably still get thrown in jail if caught with a gun NJ Federal law trumps nj law We all know the stellar track record of states honoring Federal law, say for immigration for instance It’s another animal when you enforce a law that doesn’t exist, rather than refuse to enforce a law. |
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Quoted: Okay, I'll grant you that for retired, even though it doesn't say "commissioned" verbatim. But that only applies to LEOSA for retired LEOs. There is no corresponding requirement for non-retired LEOSA qualification. View Quote That would be 926b subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b). (b)This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that— (1)permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or (2)prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park. (c)As used in this section, the term “qualified law enforcement officer” means an employee of a governmental agency who— (1)is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice); (2)is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm; (3)is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency which could result in suspension or loss of police powers; (4)meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm; (5)is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and (6)is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm. (d)The identification required by this subsection is the photographic identification issued by the governmental agency for which the individual is employed that identifies the employee as a police officer or law enforcement officer of the agency. (e)As used in this section, the term “firearm”— (1)except as provided in this subsection, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title; (2)includes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act; and (3)does not include— (A)any machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the National Firearms Act); (B)any firearm silencer (as defined in section 921 of this title); and (C)any destructive device (as defined in section 921 of this title). (f)For the purposes of this section, a law enforcement officer of the Amtrak Police Department, a law enforcement officer of the Federal Reserve, or a law enforcement or police officer of the executive branch of the Federal Government qualifies as an employee of a governmental agency who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice). |
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LEOs are normal civilians who are temporarily granted extra authority in line with their duties. As soon as they are not on-duty they should be subject to ALL laws every other citizen has to follow.
Of course most LEOs will never agree to that, they like their extra privileges. Hell, a large percentage don't even consider themselves civilians. |
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Quoted: I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn’t provide for LEOSA. Is this new? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I spent a decade as a police officer in Texas. Quit in “97. Worked for 3 different agencies during that time. None of those agencies will file LEOSA paperwork for me. One doesn’t even have records of when I worked there because city hall burned down a year or so after I left. I have my LTC which works well enough for my needs. Still. Wish I could have something from that time other than a bad back and bad knees. Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn’t provide for LEOSA. Is this new? Well they should have reported your commission with each agency you worked for to the state. That should at least establish your time of service to establish the 10 year minimum service time. If they did not report that then it would be a problem. |
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Quoted: Well they should have reported your commission with each agency you worked for to the state. That should at least establish your time of service to establish the 10 year minimum service time. If they did not report that then it would be a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I spent a decade as a police officer in Texas. Quit in “97. Worked for 3 different agencies during that time. None of those agencies will file LEOSA paperwork for me. One doesn’t even have records of when I worked there because city hall burned down a year or so after I left. I have my LTC which works well enough for my needs. Still. Wish I could have something from that time other than a bad back and bad knees. Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn’t provide for LEOSA. Is this new? Well they should have reported your commission with each agency you worked for to the state. That should at least establish your time of service to establish the 10 year minimum service time. If they did not report that then it would be a problem. TCLEOSE has the info on employment. None of the departments will issue credentials for LEOSA purposes nor will they handle required firearms qualifications. |
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Quoted: Get to know your local cops. Join your local FOP lodge. I can't believe you'd get turned down for a chance to qual for leosa. We never turned anyone away at my agency regardless of agency retired from. (Didn't charge 'em for it either) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I retired from the FBOP & was covered by LEOSA. Annual certification after retirement was easy in WV, just call & make an appointment with a WV state police firearms instructor & run the course of fire. No cost, just supply your own ammo. Unfortunately after moving to NC I found there is no easy mechanism there for a retiree from a non-NC position to get re-certified. Multiple calls, emails, etc & no clear cut road map to get it done. I just have to keep my NC CCW current & keep an eye on reciprocity when traveling (nation wide coverage was a real benefit of LEOSA). (Didn't charge 'em for it either) In AL APOST will qual retired or out of state officers. |
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Quoted: Agreed... National reciprocity missed by one vote under Obama.... I was sure trump would have thrown us a bone and done this and the hearing protection act.... especially when both houses were in the control of the GOP. View Quote National Reciprocity lost by two repub senate votes twice under Bush. It's not the cops fault civilians don't have national carry. |
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Quoted: Don't count on LEOSA to help you in New York City. Making a gun arrest is a big deal among NYPD officers, and can help them immensely when they come up for promotion. The same goes for the FOPA when driving through NYC on the Cross-Bronx Expressway (Interstate 95). I had a NYPD officer tell me without hesitation. "I don't care what the federal law says. If I catch you with a gun in New York City, you're going to jail. You may win when it comes to court, but you're still going to jail." View Quote I've been armed inside the Times Square NYPD precinct. No problems. |
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Quoted: National Reciprocity lost by two repub senate votes twice under Bush. It's not the cops fault civilians don't have national carry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Agreed... National reciprocity missed by one vote under Obama.... I was sure trump would have thrown us a bone and done this and the hearing protection act.... especially when both houses were in the control of the GOP. National Reciprocity lost by two repub senate votes twice under Bush. It's not the cops fault civilians don't have national carry. I was pretty young then so out of the loop. Were the big police unions publicly behind it along with the actual officers and their respective organizations? |
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If it was up to me leosa would be unnecessary because everyone (not bad guys) could carry.
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Quoted: I was pretty young then so out of the loop. Were the big police unions publicly behind it along with the actual officers and their respective organizations? View Quote Of course not. Wasn't their fight. The majority of ARFCOM was against it. No chance for it pass if gun owners didn't want it to pass. NRA was 100% trying to get it passed. |
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Quoted: Of course not. Wasn't their fight. The majority of ARFCOM was against it. No chance for it pass if gun owners didn't want it to pass. NRA was 100% trying to get it passed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I was pretty young then so out of the loop. Were the big police unions publicly behind it along with the actual officers and their respective organizations? Of course not. Wasn't their fight. The majority of ARFCOM was against it. No chance for it pass if gun owners didn't want it to pass. NRA was 100% trying to get it passed. Why was Arf against it? Too much power to the feds? I’ve seen a couple similar arguments that make a lot of sense but at the end of the day we are still unable to freely exercise our rights. |
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Quoted: Remind me again why we voted them in... ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No kidding! It passed the house, but McConnell wouldn’t bring it up in the senate. ![]() Remind me again why we voted them in... ![]() The only reason I ever came up with is: They are better than the alternative, as I hold my breath and reluctantly vote for “our” guy / girl with some stomach bile percolating in my throat. ![]() Yeah. That’s all I have..... |
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Quoted: TCLEOSE has the info on employment. None of the departments will issue credentials for LEOSA purposes nor will they handle required firearms qualifications. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I spent a decade as a police officer in Texas. Quit in “97. Worked for 3 different agencies during that time. None of those agencies will file LEOSA paperwork for me. One doesn’t even have records of when I worked there because city hall burned down a year or so after I left. I have my LTC which works well enough for my needs. Still. Wish I could have something from that time other than a bad back and bad knees. Call Tcole, they should have records of your time in LE. I think you can even get a retired ID through them if you qualify. I am a retired peace officer, what must I do to be able to carry my handgun? If you were a Texas state or local peace officer with a TCOLE license, you may go to your last appointing agency, or any agency where you worked for 20yrs, and apply for a Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer Firearms Certification (QRLEO). Out-of-State/Federal/Military peace officer retirees will make application directly to TCOLE for the Certification using the form on the website. In brief, the Certification requires that you have at least 10 years of cumulative honorable service, sign an affidavit stating that you are physically and psychologically fit to properly use a handgun, meet the applicable policy at the certifying agency, and perform the standard firearms qualification. See Occupations Code 1701.357 for full information. I contacted TCLEOSE them a few years ago and was told there was nothing they could do if an agency didn’t provide for LEOSA. Is this new? Well they should have reported your commission with each agency you worked for to the state. That should at least establish your time of service to establish the 10 year minimum service time. If they did not report that then it would be a problem. TCLEOSE has the info on employment. None of the departments will issue credentials for LEOSA purposes nor will they handle required firearms qualifications. That sucks, find a local academy, they might qual you. |
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