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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:04:46 PM EDT
These new models use the same footprint/fastener spacing as the existing 407K & 507K optics for compact and/or narrow slide pistols, but have the enclosed emitter like the 509T.
Think of these as a 509T without the proprietary dovetail/clamp mount, and with a narrowed chassis on the Carry version (on the left), but retaining all of the other features, including 6 MOA I have not yet been able to find anything anywhere on price range. Probably will be announced at shot, along with the details on the SCS (Self-Charging Sight). *The reticle is a 6 MOA dot only, no circle option.    @BradN This puts another wrinkle into what we were discussing WRT milling a 1911-A1 slide for 509T! @45-Seventy @fox2008 @J-Pat @Notcalifornialegal @YoteSlayer69 @Real_PhillBert @Rudukai13 @RustedAce @macman37 |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:16:37 PM EDT
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Dang. Meanwhile at Trijicon, crickets.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:20:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang. Meanwhile at Trijicon, crickets. Exactly. “Holosun is chinaware. Fuck china.” I’ve said it over and over again. The day Trijicon, Aimpoint, Eotech, make someone that sits atop my P365XL I will gladly go buy it. But I don’t see anything coming out of their camps. Probably because they know what they have the government will buy and don’t really need to innovate. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:32:46 PM EDT
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Not a fan of the goofy branding and the solar panel...
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:34:23 PM EDT
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Expandable polystyrene?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:38:58 PM EDT
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Man…. I’ve resisted the China but those are flinging themselves in the intersection on the long, waiting road to Acro P2…
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:40:16 PM EDT
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I’ve always heard that the dolor panels on other HS are pretty much useless. Since this has a non replaceable internal battery I guess they might have fixed it
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:44:42 PM EDT
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Is this like the China optics race?
I’ll be honest and should note, I do have an RMR on my carry gun. But the length and money people will spend to outfit a handgun seems insane these days. It’s a side arm for fucks sake. A fool and his money. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:47:07 PM EDT
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Also I read $505 MSRP.
No thanks. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:53:43 PM EDT
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I’m intrigued.
I have a 507k on both primary carry guns right now so I might just upgrade after the initial rush. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:54:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this like the China optics race? I’ll be honest and should note, I do have an RMR on my carry gun. But the length and money people will spend to outfit a handgun seems insane these days. It’s a side arm for fucks sake. A fool and his money. When it’s my life I value performance. Performance comes at a cost. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. "Holosun is chinaware. Fuck china." I've said it over and over again. The day Trijicon, Aimpoint, Eotech, make someone that sits atop my P365XL I will gladly go buy it. But I don't see anything coming out of their camps. Probably because they know what they have the government will buy and don't really need to innovate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dang. Meanwhile at Trijicon, crickets. Exactly. "Holosun is chinaware. Fuck china." I've said it over and over again. The day Trijicon, Aimpoint, Eotech, make someone that sits atop my P365XL I will gladly go buy it. But I don't see anything coming out of their camps. Probably because they know what they have the government will buy and don't really need to innovate. These Chinese wonder sights offer me nothing over an RMR. Maybe battery changes. But my RMR that's been on for years doesn't really make me care. Not a Holosun hater either. Thinking about a 507 for a G26 build. Their "innovations" generally just don't appeal to me. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:57:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also I read $505 MSRP. No thanks.  Top dollar chinesium. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 3:58:24 PM EDT
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Mother fluff nuggets stop spending my money!
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:03:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When it’s my life I value performance. Performance comes at a cost. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is this like the China optics race? I’ll be honest and should note, I do have an RMR on my carry gun. But the length and money people will spend to outfit a handgun seems insane these days. It’s a side arm for fucks sake. A fool and his money. When it’s my life I value performance. Performance comes at a cost. I get it man. I like nice stuff too and most of my carry guns are set up to that standard but I’m not shooting a uspsa match inside Walmart with Russian troops lol. Although some dudes act that way. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it man. I like nice stuff too and most of my carry guns are set up to that standard but I’m not shooting a uspsa match inside Walmart with Russian troops lol. Although some dudes act that way. Is speed and accuracy more or less important in a WalMart shootout or a USPSA match? |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:09:50 PM EDT
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Not bad!
Where the hell is Trijicon? I don't understand how they can be this deep in hibernation. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:11:12 PM EDT
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Mike Pannone with CTT Solutions uses Holosun. Must not be too bad. I like my 508t, looking forward to these.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When it’s my life I value performance. Performance comes at a cost. Me too. But lets see, two Aimpoint Micro and an M3 failures. Three RMR failures. Two of three Deltapoints returned for warranty. No failures from EOTech XPS models. No Holosun failures of three models and these have the highest round counts of any of my slide mounted sights. I will pay more but US compa ies are sitting on their hands. And fuck Aimpoint is from a socialist country too. How many of the buy American optic guys here are sriving foreign cars? |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:15:31 PM EDT
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Holosun has been absolutely crushing it, but this is GD so it’ll be an “Eye don’t buy from muh chyna” virtue signal thread in very short order and completely disregard the subject of the thread.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang. Meanwhile at Trijicon, crickets. Definitely. I love sucking Trijicon’s dick but they’ve really been napping on their R&D the last, well, long while now. They crushed it with the RMR back when, but have languished in the interim. The cc was a smishmortion of an attempt at a micro RDS. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:17:47 PM EDT
[#21]
CHINA
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is speed and accuracy more or less important in a WalMart shootout or a USPSA match? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get it man. I like nice stuff too and most of my carry guns are set up to that standard but I’m not shooting a uspsa match inside Walmart with Russian troops lol. Although some dudes act that way. Is speed and accuracy more or less important in a WalMart shootout or a USPSA match? I would have to say both. But dots don’t make you faster training does. Half the clowns I shoot with don’t train nearly enough to be proficient with either, but they all got them Gucci Glocks and holosun’s. Ymmv. 
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not bad! Where the hell is Trijicon? I don't understand how they can be this deep in hibernation. They offer a very high quality reflex sight in many variations, including a compact version. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:20:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Tag
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:20:45 PM EDT
[#25]
be a whole lot cooler if they used the shield rms footprint
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you want Trijicon to do exactly? They offer a very high quality reflex sight in many variations, including a compact version. They missed without including back up sight in the compact housing. Fish eyes. Blue tint. Closed emitter… |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. “Holosun is chinaware. Fuck china.” I’ve said it over and over again. The day Trijicon, Aimpoint, Eotech, make someone that sits atop my P365XL I will gladly go buy it. But I don’t see anything coming out of their camps. Probably because they know what they have the government will buy and don’t really need to innovate. One of the comments on the Holosun IG page: "Trijicon who?" lol |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:34:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:36:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you want Trijicon to do exactly? They offer a very high quality reflex sight in many variations, including a compact version. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not bad! Where the hell is Trijicon? I don't understand how they can be this deep in hibernation. They offer a very high quality reflex sight in many variations, including a compact version. I have RMR's and ACOGs, even had a Tripower at one point. Shit hasn't changed or been updated for 10? years. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have to say both. But dots don’t make you faster training does. Half the clowns I shoot with don’t train nearly enough to be proficient with either, but they all got them Gucci Glocks and holosun’s. Ymmv. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I get it man. I like nice stuff too and most of my carry guns are set up to that standard but I’m not shooting a uspsa match inside Walmart with Russian troops lol. Although some dudes act that way. Is speed and accuracy more or less important in a WalMart shootout or a USPSA match? I would have to say both. But dots don’t make you faster training does. Half the clowns I shoot with don’t train nearly enough to be proficient with either, but they all got them Gucci Glocks and holosun’s. Ymmv. Hey you take that back! I don't have any Glocks.  I just picked up a green dot 507k for my 365XL - these look interesting. I picked up a close-out 1st Gen 509t for one of my M&Ps - kinda like it.  
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve always heard that the dolor panels on other HS are pretty much useless. Since this has a non replaceable internal battery I guess they might have fixed it These use the same 1632 battery as all the other Holosun pistol dots. The SCS is the one that will have either a sealed battery case or capacitors, or both. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:40:10 PM EDT
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Yeah but does it have Bible verses on the side?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too. But lets see, two Aimpoint Micro and an M3 failures. Three RMR failures. Two of three Deltapoints returned for warranty. No failures from EOTech XPS models. No Holosun failures of three models and these have the highest round counts of any of my slide mounted sights. I will pay more but US compa ies are sitting on their hands. And fuck Aimpoint is from a socialist country too. How many of the buy American optic guys here are sriving foreign cars? I use Holosun when the application is right. You’ll get no argument from me. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:41:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Might have to sell my 507k, I love the idea of closed emitters.
I'm always getting junk in my open emitters and its hard to clean. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:41:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have to say both. But dots don’t make you faster training does. Half the clowns I shoot with don’t train nearly enough to be proficient with either, but they all got them Gucci Glocks and holosun’s. Ymmv. It’s literally possible to do both things. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve always heard that the dolor panels on other HS are pretty much useless. Since this has a non replaceable internal battery I guess they might have fixed it  Yeah, fuck that. Total dealbreaker. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:42:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Nice….I’ve been debating between the 407k / 507k for a replacement for sig red dot on my P365, guess I’ll wait a little longer and see what these look like when they come out.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey you take that back! I don't have any Glocks. I just picked up a green dot 507k for my 365XL - these look interesting. I picked up a close-out 1st Gen 509t for one of my M&Ps - kinda like it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/453429/507k-RD_507k-GR_3_JPEG-2241411.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/453429/507k-GR_JPEG-2241407.jpg I have to say, that is an impressively good match between sight and slide width on there. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:47:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, fuck that. Total dealbreaker. In the top photo, you can see the battery tray on both sights. Easily replaceable just like all the other current HS sights. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, fuck that. Total dealbreaker. Agreed. To date the Holosun solar mode has sucked. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the top photo, you can see the battery tray on both sights. Easily replaceable just like all the other current HS sights. He’s talking about the other one. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:55:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. To date the Holosun solar mode has sucked. Guys. Look at the picture. The person you're quoting was talking about a different optic. These have replaceable batteries. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have to say, that is an impressively good match between sight and slide width on there. Those are 507k models (first gen in Red, x2 in Green), not one of the new models you mentioned. Just in case I confused people. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s talking about the other one. The SCS? I have no info on that, beyond what was shown in that video from their display at SHOT last year. No idea how well it would work, or really how it would work. In any case, the SCS isn't enclosed emitter, which for me, is kind of the point. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 4:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are 507k models (first gen in Red, x2 in Green), not one of the new models you mentioned. Just in case I confused people. No confusion here, I got it. Seeing that it's no wonder why some, like you, were sold on the K sights. Really good fit, seems like. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 5:00:46 PM EDT
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so i have learned in this thread we hate American companies and love Chicom products
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Posted: 1/15/2022 5:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so i have learned in this thread we hate American companies and love Chicom products I don't hate any American companies. I'm disappointed that some companies refuse to innovate and compete. That's all. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 5:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hate any American companies. I'm disappointed that some companies refuse to innovate and compete. That's all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so i have learned in this thread we hate American companies and love Chicom products I don't hate any American companies. I'm disappointed that some companies refuse to innovate and compete. That's all. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 5:04:47 PM EDT
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I've wanted a fully enclosed sight on the RMSC footprint for a long time so I'm excited for this, especially if I can get it with the Primary Arms Vulcan reticle.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 5:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so i have learned in this thread we hate American companies and love Chicom products I love my RMR’s…if they’d make one to fit on my P365 I’d buy it tomorrow. |
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