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Link Posted: 7/26/2024 10:24:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

My first thought was some antifa type anti-capitalist, anti-civilization assholes were behind the train sabotage. But it's certainly Russia's MO also. It will be interesting to learn about the suspects. It's too sophisticated and non-bloody for the usual snack-bar idiots.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By Capta:

The colossal strategic stupidity of the Russians (who are obviously behind this) never ceases to amaze me.  They succeeded in disrupting some trains during the Olympics - big deal - and my guess is that there will be some pretty severe if un-obvious consequences.

My first thought was some antifa type anti-capitalist, anti-civilization assholes were behind the train sabotage. But it's certainly Russia's MO also. It will be interesting to learn about the suspects. It's too sophisticated and non-bloody for the usual snack-bar idiots.


They arrested a Russian three days ago over an alleged plot to destabilize the Olympics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1j7kg2nk0o
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 10:24:30 PM EDT
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Seems like you could have a lot of fun with a wrench and a 50-pound bag of abrasive powder.  
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Don't think you need a wrench. What I've seen the oil boxes were just flip open lids. Wouldn't take more than 1/2 a teaspoon of abrasive to wreck the bearings. Russian bearings are beyond garbage, they make Chinese bearings look NASA grade.
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 10:56:01 PM EDT
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They arrested a Russian three days ago over an alleged plot to destabilize the Olympics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1j7kg2nk0o
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Ahh, the plot thickens. Thanks.
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 10:57:03 PM EDT
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I think everyone on this thread can get on board with that.

Further comments of "I'm staying home/not voting Trump because Ukraine" are going to seem really disingenuous from this point forward.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Prime:
This morning, Russian "Z-blogs" are filled with worry about so-called "Trump Peace Plan", published in the Wall Street Journal by David J Urban and Mike Pompeo (former Trump advisor and former US Secretary of State, respectively).

The "Peace Plan" consists of several points, including a $500 billion lend-lease for Ukraine, removing limitations on the use of weapons and tighter sanctions for Russia.

Russian "Z-bloggers" were clearly unhappy with this scenario.

Read the article here:
https://wsj.com/articles/a-trump-peace-plan-for-ukraine-russia-foreign-policy-926348cf




I like it.







I think everyone on this thread can get on board with that.

Further comments of "I'm staying home/not voting Trump because Ukraine" are going to seem really disingenuous from this point forward.

To be clear this is not “Trump’s policy” on the war.  This is a policy proposal by a person who served in the previous administration, and you could speculate in a number of ways about why he wrote what he did or if it will influence Trump.
There is no “Trump policy” on the war yet, there is only speculation based on previous statements/positions, which is reasonable but not definitive.
What is interesting and IMO not an accident, the only point of commonality between the Pompano release and previous Trump/Trump-adjacent statements is that “cease fire in place” features prominently.
This certainly should be a warning sign, because it’s exactly what Putin hopes for.  The rest of the Pompano proposal is a bunch of nice-sounding but unenforceable hot air.
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 11:04:31 PM EDT
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Ukraine Situation Report: Russia Advancing Toward Key Logistics Hub

The Donetsk Oblast city of Pokrovsk, a bulwark against a Ukrainian collapse in the region, is a main target of Russian forces.

HOWARD ALTMAN  /  POSTED ON JUL 25, 2024 9:16 PM EDT  /  16 MINUTE READ





In their biggest advances so far this year, Russian troops are pushing forward toward the once-thriving Donetsk Oblast industrial hub of Pokrovsk. Ensconced in the middle of three key highways in the western part of Donetsk, the city is now a garrison and a critical bulwark against a large-scale collapse in the region.

“Of the 150 Russian attacks over the past 24 hours, almost half occurred on a 40-50 kilometer section of the front west-northwest of Donetsk – the Pokrovsk and Kurakhovsk directions,” the Ukrainian Radio Svaboda news outlet wrote on Telegram Thursday. “This is the part of the front where Russian troops have made their greatest advance since the beginning of the year, occupying Avdiivka and advancing towards Pokrovsk.”

The Russian advance, much of it along the railroad tracks running west from Avdiivka, has been steady. That’s creating concern in Ukraine.

“For the past seven days, the enemy advanced 6 km in the direction of Mirnograd-Pokrovsk,” Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov wrote on Facebook Tuesday. That area “is the last district of defense before the Dnipropetrovsk region. The enemy is very close, the situation is critical because the pace of the enemy’s advancement causes concern.”


Russian troops are just 14 miles from Mirnograd, Butusov wrote. About five miles east of Pokrovsk, its capture would greatly imperil that city, an important logistics hub for Ukraine.



Butusov complained bitterly about what he said was Russia taking advantage of poor Ukrainian leadership in certain sections of that front.

“According to the commanders and fighters who defend the Pokrovsk-Mirnograd district, the main problem in terms of intensive actions is primarily in the management and organization of our actions,” he wrote. “The Russian command attacks in the first place those brigades who have the weakest management and organization. When a poorly managed crew is attacked, it can’t hold even a narrow margin.”

As a result, reserves sent to the area in March have to “reinforce the weak units that bear the most losses,” he explained. “It prevents the creation of significant tactical reserves that would have time for additional training, could rotate combatants more often, and have second and third lines of defense.”

Moreover, the “lack of prepared defense positions, reliable fortification structures occupied by the troops, does not allow to stop the enemy on any frontier. Continues a virtually continuous encounter battle, and occupation during the offense.”

Making matters worse, Butusov states that Ukrainian forces are mismanaging their drone and electronic warfare (EW) efforts.

“A critical problem is the lack of single competent management of all drone forces and [EW] tools, which continue to be used scattered and unorganized. Our own [EW] destroys a significant number of our own drones. Drone units receive tasks without taking into account tactical and technical capabilities.”

Russian forces, meanwhile, continue to strike with their own drones.

Still, the Russian advances are at a very high cost, said Butusov.

“The Russians are coming patternally and predictably. Russians carry out front attacks of small groups of infantry with heavy casualties.”

Exacerbating Ukraine’s problems, Commander-in-Chief Col Gen Oleksandr Syrskyi told The Guardian that the Russians have a huge number of troops and weapons in Ukraine.

Their original 100,000-strong invasion force has grown to 520,000, he told the publication, with a goal by the end of 2024 of 690,000 men. Ukraine has not released information about the size of its forces.

“When it comes to equipment, there is a ratio of 1:2 or 1:3 in their favor,” he said. Since 2022 the number of Russian tanks has “doubled” – from 1,700 to 3,500. Artillery systems have tripled, and armored personnel carriers nearly doubled, from 4,500 to 8,900.

“The enemy has a significant advantage in force and resources,” Syrskyi said. “Therefore, for us, the issue of supply, the issue of quality, is really at the forefront.”

Among other advances, the Russians are “gobbling up territory northwest of Avdiivka, towards the garrison town of Pokrovsk and the hilltop settlement of Chasiv Yar.”

Syrskyi, The Guardian wrote, tried to put recent setbacks in context.

Russia’s creeping victories as “tactical” – local gains rather than an “operational” breakthrough, such as the capture of a major city, he suggested.

“In principle, the enemy has not made any significant progress,” he said. The frontline, he added, was 3,700 km long. Active hostilities were taking place across “977 km” of it, or “twice the length of the border between Germany and France.”

Echoing Butusov’s analysis, Syrskyi said Russia has paid dearly in terms of troop losses for its advances. The Kremlin’s casualties were “three times” higher than Ukraine’s, and “even more” in certain directions, he said. “Their number of killed is much bigger,” he emphasized. In February Volodymyr Zelenskiy said 31,000 Ukrainian service personnel had died since 2022, a figure that seems absurdly low given the nature of the fight.

Syrskyi declined to provide additional insights, saying losses were “sensitive” and a topic Moscow could exploit.

With its Kharkiv advance largely sputtering, Russia is now focusing a lot of attention on western Donetsk Oblast, creating one of its deepest salients in the war toward Pokrovsk.

“When Ukrainian units are ground down by artillery and drone fire, Russian troops continue to move along the main route through the railway line” toward Pokrovsk,” the Russian Colonelcassad Telegram channel wrote.

Meanwhile, life goes on in Pokrovsk.



https://www.twz.com/air/ukraine-situation-report-russia-advancing-toward-key-logistics-hub

Link Posted: 7/26/2024 11:05:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Aren't we seeing this NOW with the desert cross and motorcycle assaults? Is it possible they will import some more dual-use type vehicle from China, like you described? Maybe something more in line with the 6-wheeler you are describing? Does China have a Jeep or mudding culture?
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Originally Posted By Capta:

That’s the first time I’ve seen confirmation in print of something I’ve mentioned before - the Russians are running short of engines/transmissions at least for some types.  
I also think we will see some kind of “war emergency” APC at some point.  Basically think of a zero-frills M113 - a steel box on either wheels or tracks.  My guess is a 6-wheeled truck chassis might be the cheapest and easiest option.  They’re fast running out of stockpiled gear, there’s no way that BMP-3 production will ever catch up (ever!) and they’re up against a fairly hard time constraint with a likely war against NATO within 5 years.  They need APCs NOW.

Aren't we seeing this NOW with the desert cross and motorcycle assaults? Is it possible they will import some more dual-use type vehicle from China, like you described? Maybe something more in line with the 6-wheeler you are describing? Does China have a Jeep or mudding culture?

They have their uses tactically, but for strategic mobility they’re worthless.
Russia needs to be able to generate a useful APC fast and at high production rates.  They don’t need armament.  A 6x6 APC on a truck chassis would be my choice for a crash program.
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 11:08:33 PM EDT
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Don't think you need a wrench. What I've seen the oil boxes were just flip open lids. Wouldn't take more than 1/2 a teaspoon of abrasive to wreck the bearings. Russian bearings are beyond garbage, they make Chinese bearings look NASA grade.
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Hey have there been any birch plywood casualties yet?
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 11:15:10 PM EDT
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The defense forces of Ukraine continue to destroy the military infrastructure of the Russian invaders.

Tonight, units of the missile forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in cooperation with other components of the Defense Forces, as part of a unified plan, struck the Saki airfield in the temporarily occupied Crimea. This is one of the operational airfields that Russia uses to control the airspace, in particular the Black Sea water area, and to launch air strikes on Ukrainian territory.

Information on the consequences of the impact is being clarified.

It is important to note that the airfield was covered by "modern" Russian air defense equipment, which once again failed to protect an important Russian military facility.

The joint combat work of all components of the Defense Forces on important targets of the Russian Armed Forces will continue.

Glory to Ukraine!


https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/16348

Link Posted: 7/27/2024 12:00:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Aren't we seeing this NOW with the desert cross and motorcycle assaults? Is it possible they will import some more dual-use type vehicle from China, like you described? Maybe something more in line with the 6-wheeler you are describing? Does China have a Jeep or mudding culture?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_BJ80 - they make clones if the stuff we can no longer have because Greta.
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Actually, the majority of the world aren't helping them at all. China and India are getting cheap oil at below market rates. Neither ChinaIsAsshoe nor India will risk US sanctions to materially help Russia in their war effort. Iran is a competitor to Russia in oil exports. Africa is a net drain on the rooskies which is why they have backed away from them and ChinaIsAsshoe is stepping in to replace them. Their economy can't convert to a "wartime" economy because their oil and gas sales aren't cutting it. Further, they are finding out what happens to domestically produced stuff when the foreign nations that supply key components shuts them off. (I will note the irony of that relative to the US and ChinaIsAsshoe.)

Bottom line is they aren't and won't be in a position to replace what they're losing on the battlefield. Either their warfighting capabilities will be reduced to near nothing or their economy will collapse. (Note the news item above about 18% interest rates and the inability to sell their bonds.) It will be interesting to see which happens first (or if they happen simultaneously).
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institute for the study of war which is quoted here daily disagrees with what you wrote.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 1:50:28 AM EDT
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All what countries, and specifically how are they helping?
NK handing over 5M shells is a deal, sure.  Even if some percentage of them are blowing up Russian guns and crews.  But that’s just their (really China’s) version of keeping Russia just supplied enough to keep them in the war and keep their losses mounting without providing a real advantage.  They could do FAR, FAR more, but they aren’t.
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Every single country that trades with them. Every single EU country that sends them billions of dollars.  The institute for the study of war which is quoted here daily has very publicly stated how countries have set up manufacturing facilities to make drones etc… in Russia.  Do a little work and you can find it.  Just to help you out check out general jack keane’s interview today.

Also you should read NATO’s statements from the NATO summit where they called out China for helping Russia. Our you could look at the new toothless sanctions the US placed on a few Chinese companies for helping Russia.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 4:58:55 AM EDT
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The starting point is SVO. How the AP plans to put culture at the service of war

Over the course of 2.5 years of full-scale war in Ukraine, the Kremlin has not been able to unite the country around it: according to polls, Russians try not to notice the war, movies about it fail at the box office, books, poems, and songs about events at the front remain the lot of the marginalized. The presidential administration dreams of changing this - according to the Soviet model of art control.

The Dossier Center has at its disposal documents with proposals for rebooting cultural policy in Russia, which were developed by the head of the AP department for public projects, Sergei Novikov. The official understands that war turns people off, so he wants to make it the backdrop for all the art that is sponsored by the state.

The Kremlin is dissatisfied with the “painfully repressed” place of war in Russian culture, writes Novikov.  It should become “a frame, an integral part of any artistic world and a starting point for any value considerations.”

The head of the AP for Culture even offers his ideas. For example, a film about the action movie “Motorola” in the spirit of Marvel, in the plot of which he quits his job as an Auchan security guard, finds love and dies a “heroic death” (in fact, according to one version, the militant known for his cruelty became a victim of local gang violence) . Another idea of ​​Novikov is a semi-comedy series about the Donetsk hotel “Donbass Palace Battalion”.

According to Novikov’s idea, only those who will engage in “ideologically correct” art will receive large state funding, and the state should provide minimal support to cultural figures who want to remain apolitical, such as vouchers to a sanatorium, as in the USSR. 

“The artist’s dilemma is simple. If you want to “create” without violating the convention, then go ahead. You won't die of hunger. If you want government money, take part in the life of the country. Here's the challenge. Here's the competition - go ahead. No violence."


https://t.me/dossiercenter/338



Sabotage from a safe distance. Who is behind the new GRU tactics in Europe

Since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, very strange things have been happening in European countries almost every month. Migrants protesting against Erdogan appear on the streets of Paris, posing as Ukrainians, military enterprises suddenly catch fire in Germany and England, and saboteurs who were planning explosions on railways are caught in Poland and the Czech Republic. All this is a consequence of the new tactics of Russian military intelligence, better known as the GRU. After the high-profile failures of Petrov and Boshirov, the unsuccessful organization of a cyber attack on the OPCW office in The Hague and the almost complete disclosure of the employees of military unit 21955 through the efforts of journalists, the GRU began to rely much less on its own officers in foreign work. Of course, the mass expulsion of diplomats, many of whom were also GRU “undercovers” at the embassies, also had an effect. Now intelligence officers manage operations from Russia, and the main characters are “group agents”—hired curators who organize sabotage on the ground.

Thus, military intelligence hoped to keep the identities of at least some officers secret - but it failed. The Dossier Center introduces readers to a new team of GRU employees who are responsible for sabotage abroad.


https://t.me/dossiercenter/343

Link Posted: 7/27/2024 5:20:27 AM EDT
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#Summary for the morning of July 27, 2024

▪️At night 21 UAVs were shot down over the Bryansk region. 6 Ukrainian aircraft-type UAVs were shot down in the sky over the Kursk region. In the Lipetsk region, a Ukrainian Armed Forces drone fell next to a residential building in the village of Ratchino. In the north of the Rostov region, two unmanned aerial vehicles were intercepted and destroyed by means of electronic warfare

▪️In the Kharkov direction there are fierce battles in the village. Volchansk. After yesterday’s unsuccessful attempts to attack the positions of the “North” group, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are regrouping and restoring combat effectiveness. In the Staritsa area, the enemy increased efforts to capture a settlement and twice attacked the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in 24 hours

▪️North of the eastern part of Chasov Yar, the Russian Armed Forces are expanding the control zone at the Seversky Donets - Donbass water canal line west of Kalinovka.

▪️In the Toretsky (Dzerzhinsky) direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are bringing reserves into battle in the hope of stopping the pushing of their defense. The Russian Armed Forces are advancing in the area of ​​New York (Novgorod), near Zhelezny (Zalizny) and Kirovo.

▪️In the Pokrovsky direction (west of Avdeevka), the Russian Armed Forces are developing an offensive on the southern sector of the front: our assault group planted a flag in the central part of Yasnobrodovka. To the north, our troops are successfully operating west of Novoselovka First and southwest of the settlement. Volce, moving towards the settlement. Fun. The enemy's resources characterize the situation as extremely difficult for the Ukrainian Armed Forces; however, the enemy is putting up organized, fierce resistance, despite the daily loss of occupied positions.

▪️In the Yuzhnodonetsk direction there are oncoming battles near Konstantinovka (west of Paraskovievka). In Krasnogorovka there are counter battles, the LBS remains unchanged.

▪️From the Vremevsky direction and the Zaporozhye Front, reports are periodically received about the intensification of fighting, while the front line fluctuates slightly. Enemy resources indicate that the Russian Army is amassing large forces for a strike at Gulyai-Polye

▪️No significant changes in the Kherson direction. As throughout the entire front, the acute issue remains the supply of newly created units with objectively necessary copters with thermal imagers. Four people, including three children, were injured in the village of Maslovka in the Novokakhovsky District from shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

▪️In the Belgorod region, late in the evening, the village of Bochkovka, Belgorod district, came under fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a woman was wounded, and an agricultural enterprise was damaged. The city of Shebekino came under fire from an MLRS, but there were no casualties. Border areas are under attack from enemy drones.

▪️In the Kursk region, the enemy is knocking out agricultural and industrial enterprises and electricity supply facilities. The entire border area is under attack from the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The summary was compiled by: Two majors


https://t.me/dva_majors/48211



Kursk region

At night, 12 UAVs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were shot down near the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant in Kurchatov, reports from the field.

✨Ukraine regularly attacks Russian nuclear facilities.

Two majors


https://t.me/dva_majors/48212



Russian Ministry of Defense:

At about 06.45 Moscow time, seven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by duty air defense systems over the territory of the Ryazan region.

Two majors


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Link Posted: 7/27/2024 5:23:06 AM EDT
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On July 12, the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Belousov called the Pentagon to convey a warning about the "Ukrainian secret operation" against Russia discovered by the Russians, which, in their opinion, was approved by the Americans. Belousov asked Austin whether the Pentagon knew about this operation and whether they understood that it could lead to an escalation of tensions between Moscow and Washington.

Pentagon officials were surprised by this claim and were not aware of such an operation.

It is not known what Belousov was talking about, but it was taken quite seriously in the Pentagon, and the Americans contacted the Ukrainians, stressing that if they were planning something like this, it was better not to do it.

The operations that caused US concern included strikes on a Russian airbase on the western coast of Crimea, a truck explosion on a bridge over the Kerch Strait, and drone strikes deep inside Russian territory.

Source: The New York Times.


🤓Belhorod-22 wants a holiday.


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Daily Ukraine map thread for Friday 26th July 2024

Highlights: Russian forces advance at Yasnobrodivka, Krasnohorivka, Lozuvatske and Prohres. Ukrainian forces are losing slowly but decisively in this area and Pokrovsk is now less than 20 km away.

Note that DeepState's map has much further Russian gains west of Avdiivka, but we haven't seen geolocations for them yet. The situation appears dire for Ukrainian forces in the area.

No change in Zaporizhia or Kherson, but north of Bakhmut and in Kharkiv/Luhansk Russian forces have made gains.

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China is making unprecedented efforts to accumulate resources. This may indicate preparations for war

📌 Stocks of raw materials in the PRC should be reduced, as the country's economy has recently experienced a deep crisis, and world prices are currently high. However, the opposite process is taking place — the reserves of raw materials in the People's Republic of China, as The Economist writes, are growing at an impressive rate.

📌 Along with reserves, China is also building up its military power. According to one version, China is preparing for possible isolation, for example, after an attack on Taiwan.

📌 According to experts, Chinese stocks are still not enough to start a war. Rather, the facts indicate that Xi Jinping intends to increase the amount of resources.

📌 According to The Economist, in 2023 China's reserves increased by 16% overall, and in 2024 - by 6% only from January to May. At the same time, as the journalists note, the rapid increase in Beijing's reserves contradicts any logic.

📌 In particular, China increased its crude oil reserves to 2 billion barrels. Reserves of natural and liquefied gas, according to estimates by Morgan Chase, increased six times to 15 billion cubic meters. m and will grow to 85 billion cubic meters. m until 2030. This year, wheat and corn stocks in the People's Republic of China will make up 51% and 67% of world stocks, respectively.

📌 According to analysts, the sudden increase in China's reserves was caused in particular by the war in Ukraine, which made it clear that the West can impose tough sanctions even against such great opponents as Russia.

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Link Posted: 7/27/2024 6:56:30 AM EDT
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🚨 Urgent | Spokesman for Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital: More than 20 martyrs so far as a result of the Israeli raid on Deir al-Balah.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 6:59:00 AM EDT
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Russians cannot withdraw cash from the banks of the aggressor state: the cyber attack on the financial sector of the Russian Federation is intensifying, - mass media with reference to sources in the State Government

The attack on the Russian banking sector, which is involved in financing the armed aggression of the Russian Federation, has been going on for several days in a row and is gaining momentum.

The main banking institutions of the Russian Federation, whose online services have already been blocked, have been joined by brokerage applications and ATMs./


https://t.me/operativnoZSU/152643


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Every single country that trades with them. Every single EU country that sends them billions of dollars.  The institute for the study of war which is quoted here daily has very publicly stated how countries have set up manufacturing facilities to make drones etc… in Russia.  Do a little work and you can find it.  Just to help you out check out general jack keane’s interview today.

Also you should read NATO’s statements from the NATO summit where they called out China for helping Russia. Our you could look at the new toothless sanctions the US placed on a few Chinese companies for helping Russia.
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Originally Posted By Capta:

All what countries, and specifically how are they helping?
NK handing over 5M shells is a deal, sure.  Even if some percentage of them are blowing up Russian guns and crews.  But that’s just their (really China’s) version of keeping Russia just supplied enough to keep them in the war and keep their losses mounting without providing a real advantage.  They could do FAR, FAR more, but they aren’t.


Every single country that trades with them. Every single EU country that sends them billions of dollars.  The institute for the study of war which is quoted here daily has very publicly stated how countries have set up manufacturing facilities to make drones etc… in Russia.  Do a little work and you can find it.  Just to help you out check out general jack keane’s interview today.

Also you should read NATO’s statements from the NATO summit where they called out China for helping Russia. Our you could look at the new toothless sanctions the US placed on a few Chinese companies for helping Russia.

I’ve already read them and acknowledge that Russia has and is finding workarounds.  But you’re overstating your case, perhaps deliberately.
Any reasonable interpretation of Chinese actions (which is the only issue of real importance) shows that their help has been tepid and that they are concerned with feathering their own nest, not helping Russia.
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Nice.

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Enemy Mi-28 and Ka-226 helicopters were damaged in the territory of the joint-stock company "National Center of Helicopter Construction of Myl and Kamov" (for example, Tomilino, Moscow region, RF) as a result of sabotage activities of the GUR.

Also, on July 24, as a result of sabotage, a Mi-8 multi-purpose helicopter was destroyed on the territory of the airfield of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation "Kryazh" in Samara.
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I’m amused that China simultaneously pretends it’s an independent neutral third party who we should follow for peace while touting limitless friendship with Russia and making those kinds of statements and moves.


But China is famously duplicitous, unreliable and a liar
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Tick tock.



dismounting from armour takes place 8-10 km from the front. However, there are no available solutions to the problem yet.
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Political relationships will be ramped up until we know the outcome of the US election. China needs Japan, and Japan desperately needs China. The issue is Japan follows the directions of America, up until a critical issue like the economy, energy, or food is involved. But overall, Japan does what America tells it to do, sometimes reluctantly, but overall Japan is America's bitch.

Japan wants stable, reliable relations with its 2 neighbors Russia and China. Domestically, Japanese people have no issues with the Chinese, they get along very well. The issue of Taiwan was part of Shinzo Abe's core policy, but that has changed. Kishida is more flexible, partly because the Chinese have said they will never impose sanctions or restrict trade. There are major energy projects between Japan and Russia, and Japan can not afford them to fail, so these are going to cause tensions between Tokyo and Washinton.

The Chinese have become more bold in their public political statements recently, they have taken the gloves off. They do not like the prospects of a Harris administration, they can negotiate with Trump and they did in the past.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:01:38 AM EDT
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it is equipped with a jib crane with a load capacity of 500 kilograms and a winch with a pulling force of 5 tons.

A certain number of such mobile workshops on the chassis of pickups have already been handed over to combat units. This repair workshop is able to solve the issue of current repair and maintenance of automobile and combat equipment of units of the company-battalion level.
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Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:04:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:23:54 AM EDT
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Nice vintage paintjob.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:34:34 AM EDT
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Outstanding
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:41:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

I’m amused that China simultaneously pretends it’s an independent neutral third party who we should follow for peace while touting limitless friendship with Russia and making those kinds of statements and moves.


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Cap just said a few posts up that Chinas help to Russia has only been tepid. So their friendship with Russia must not be limitless.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:42:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Political relationships will be ramped up until we know the outcome of the US election. China needs Japan, and Japan desperately needs China. The issue is Japan follows the directions of America, up until a critical issue like the economy, energy, or food is involved. But overall, Japan does what America tells it to do, sometimes reluctantly, but overall Japan is America's bitch.

Japan wants stable, reliable relations with its 2 neighbors Russia and China. Domestically, Japanese people have no issues with the Chinese, they get along very well. The issue of Taiwan was part of Shinzo Abe's core policy, but that has changed. Kishida is more flexible, partly because the Chinese have said they will never impose sanctions or restrict trade. There are major energy projects between Japan and Russia, and Japan can not afford them to fail, so these are going to cause tensions between Tokyo and Washinton.

The Chinese have become more bold in their public political statements recently, they have taken the gloves off. They do not like the prospects of a Harris administration, they can negotiate with Trump and they did in the past.
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https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/01/7c86dfc1b2d0-record-87-of-japanese-do-not-feel-friendly-toward-china-survey.html#google_vignette
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:48:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I’ve already read them and acknowledge that Russia has and is finding workarounds.  But you’re overstating your case, perhaps deliberately.
Any reasonable interpretation of Chinese actions (which is the only issue of real importance) shows that their help has been tepid and that they are concerned with feathering their own nest, not helping Russia.
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“In an interview with BBC News, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: "What's not happening is the provision of actual arms by China to Russia for use in Ukraine."
However, China has been accused of building up Moscow's war machine by providing critical components. Mr Blinken said: "Those are being used to help Russia on what's an extraordinary crash course effort to make more munitions, tanks, armoured vehicles, missiles."
About 70% of the machine tools and 90% of the microelectronics Russia imports come from China, he added.”

It is very much in Chinas interests to help Russia and they are obviously. It’s also obvious that you do not understand the geopolitical landscape.

I’ll continue to post and correct you.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:49:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Copium.

It all sounds nice, but the bottom line is that Russia continues to have enough man & machines to continue advancing on every front, losing ground nowhere (except giving up prior advances). We're still exactly where we were almost two years ago: a war of attrition favors the Russians.

Reminder: Russian leadership does not care about losses. Russian media have most of the population truly believing that this is a moral and just war for their very survival. Because of that, we are still a long way from a point where the civilian population would consider turning against the war en masse.
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Copium.

It all sounds nice, but the bottom line is that Russia continues to have enough man & machines to continue advancing on every front, losing ground nowhere (except giving up prior advances). We're still exactly where we were almost two years ago: a war of attrition favors the Russians.

Reminder: Russian leadership does not care about losses. Russian media have most of the population truly believing that this is a moral and just war for their very survival. Because of that, we are still a long way from a point where the civilian population would consider turning against the war en masse.


Gota destabilize Belarus
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:50:24 AM EDT
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I took it to mean that Putin probably would not go for these terms or would break them anyway which would give trump the leverage to simply continue aid to Ukraine.  He could say he tried, but Putin would not go with the negotiations.  Frankly, I think he should just skip to giving the Ukrainian forces weapons in the amounts they need to end this faster.

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Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Prime:
This morning, Russian "Z-blogs" are filled with worry about so-called "Trump Peace Plan", published in the Wall Street Journal by David J Urban and Mike Pompeo (former Trump advisor and former US Secretary of State, respectively).

The "Peace Plan" consists of several points, including a $500 billion lend-lease for Ukraine, removing limitations on the use of weapons and tighter sanctions for Russia.

Russian "Z-bloggers" were clearly unhappy with this scenario.

Read the article here:
https://wsj.com/articles/a-trump-peace-plan-for-ukraine-russia-foreign-policy-926348cf




I like it.





I'll note that some of these terms are contradictory and only term one has any relevance.
- Immediate cessation of war.
- Substantial defense build-up for Ukraine.
- Non-recognition of Russian annexations.
- Demilitarization of Crimea.

Putin will jump at it as it gives him exactly what he wants - a cease fire in place at our insistence.
If Ukraine can acquire and use any US weapon - BUT CAN'T USE THEM because an immediate cease-fire is demanded - then that's irrelevant.
Putin doesn't care if no one recognizes Russian conquests.  It's a nothing-burger.  Unless Russia is ejected by force, he got what he wants.
What does "demilitarization of Crimea" mean?  How do we enforce that?  What happens when Russia lies/conceals/delays/obfuscates?  What chance in hell is there that Russia will abandon Sevastopol?  This is one of those things that can sound nice but means nothing and will be unenforceable/unenforced.

I read through it and IMO it's all just a bunch of nice-sounding smoke and mirrors designed to camouflage the fact that it's a surrender to exactly what Putin wants - cease fire in place with a bunch of other mushy shit that will never come to mean anything.



I took it to mean that Putin probably would not go for these terms or would break them anyway which would give trump the leverage to simply continue aid to Ukraine.  He could say he tried, but Putin would not go with the negotiations.  Frankly, I think he should just skip to giving the Ukrainian forces weapons in the amounts they need to end this faster.

At some point Trump did say if RU wouldn't accept his terms sending more and better weapons would be on the table. This was quite a while back.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:52:24 AM EDT
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Outstanding
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Outstanding

>2000km over land. How'd they do it?
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 9:52:45 AM EDT
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Nice. Like an upgraded contact truck.
Link Posted: 7/27/2024 10:00:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2024 10:00:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Political relationships will be ramped up until we know the outcome of the US election. China needs Japan, and Japan desperately needs China. The issue is Japan follows the directions of America, up until a critical issue like the economy, energy, or food is involved. But overall, Japan does what America tells it to do, sometimes reluctantly, but overall Japan is America's bitch.

Japan wants stable, reliable relations with its 2 neighbors Russia and China. Domestically, Japanese people have no issues with the Chinese, they get along very well. The issue of Taiwan was part of Shinzo Abe's core policy, but that has changed. Kishida is more flexible, partly because the Chinese have said they will never impose sanctions or restrict trade. There are major energy projects between Japan and Russia, and Japan can not afford them to fail, so these are going to cause tensions between Tokyo and Washinton.

The Chinese have become more bold in their public political statements recently, they have taken the gloves off. They do not like the prospects of a Harris administration, they can negotiate with Trump and they did in the past.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_4352-3278185.jpg
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/01/7c86dfc1b2d0-record-87-of-japanese-do-not-feel-friendly-toward-china-survey.html#google_vignette


First of all, that's Kyodo. It is akin to referencing CNN.

Secondly, there is an issue of Chinese who live and work in Japan and mainland Chinese tourists. Chinese tourists, especially 'first timers' (Chinese who are on their first overseas trip) act, and do things like they do in China. They litter, can't use toilets properly, cut into lines, and are rude. These first-timers cause a lot of 'issues', but they are not big, just people complaining.

The Chinese who live and work in Japan settle in well, they learn the language fast and you can't adapt to living in Japan without respecting the culture and rules. Chinese people understand rules, they know that breaking state rules has life-changing consequences, so they adapt very fast. The Chinese who are lucky enough to work or study in Japan, never, ever, want to go home. They adapt so fast because living here gives them freedom they will never get in China.

There are issues, but generally, Chinese people love Japan and willingly adapt. They also work hard and are often the best students (my wife is a professor).

I have clients who tell me they will hire any young Chinese worker who speaks basic Japanese because they know they will probably work their ass off and stay for a long time.

It is a security problem, but Japan is very open to educated and skilled Chinese people immigrating here. The same goes for Russian, up until 2022.
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