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Posted: 9/11/2024 5:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: But it hasn't. China is providing aid, but limited. We're providing aid, but limited. Either China on the US could decisively end this war for our preferred proxy with large, direct involvement. I hadn't really gelled on the idea that this isn't a proxy war against Russia, Russia is just a proxy themselves. Others already posted it long ago in other words. I had said Russia ends as a Chinese vassal, but they're already there. Russia gets (most of) Ukraine and the Baltics, China gets Taiwan, the axis of evil is happy and the era of US hegemony is 100% over. Aid from China has been much less overt than the US aid, half-asses as it is. But little by little China seems to be warming up to the idea, probably after seeing how obviously the USA doesn't want to win, China is filling the vacuum. But it has taken 2.5 years. In other year of escalation management China will be sending tanks and SPG's. Given them time... |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 5:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Don't forget the ones we left for the taliban! |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:15:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: How much would the cost be to fly them back to the US? Irrelevant period. It’s 9/11 we don’t leave weapons for terrorist. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:31:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: A lot of red lines everywhere and all of them are getting walked all over on a daily basis.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:34:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted  By daemon734:I can tell you with some authority that carrying a Shahed 131 into Knox Hall is a pretty stressful endeavor. Okay, I laughed
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Those MRAPs weren’t free. We spent billions and billions on MRAPS, only years later to destroy a shit ton of them instead of parking them in the desert They are mostly commercial trucks with metal boxes in them that are outdated and replaced by a better vehicle. Why bother bringing them back? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:47:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: How much would the cost be to fly them back to the US? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By GoldenMead: Don't forget the ones we left for the taliban! Why fly them all the way back to the US? Just drop them off in Kyiv. 2021 was a perfect time to start sending surplus military equipment (excess defense articles) to Ukraine. Missed opportunity. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:47:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: They are mostly commercial trucks with metal boxes in them that are outdated and replaced by a better vehicle. Why bother bringing them back? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: Those MRAPs weren’t free. We spent billions and billions on MRAPS, only years later to destroy a shit ton of them instead of parking them in the desert They are mostly commercial trucks with metal boxes in them that are outdated and replaced by a better vehicle. Why bother bringing them back? As this conflict has shown. Sometimes it’s good to have a bunch of old junk to give away or press into service |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Those MRAPs weren’t free. We spent billions and billions on MRAPS, only years later to destroy a shit ton of them instead of parking them in the desert Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By GoldenMead: Causing we invested trillions of dollars into the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nation building is expensive. We need to get back to the military wins wars and that’s its job. Plus nation building made a lot of people lots of money. Building a stock pile of ads makes them only a little bit of money. Politicians are greedy evil bastards. Those MRAPs weren’t free. We spent billions and billions on MRAPS, only years later to destroy a shit ton of them instead of parking them in the desert I would guess that a large number of the ones we did retain have found their way over to Ukraine by now. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:04:53 PM EDT
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I've been kind of on a break from paying attention to Ukraine for like a month or so.
How are things going in Pokrovsk? Any indication that Russia is getting bogged down? Or are they still advancing? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:51:17 PM EDT
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Bueller? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:53:40 PM EDT
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15 sec video.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Whatever you want to believe is fine. Makes no difference to me. But in case you are actually interested in facts rather than an invented conspiracy theory about mods/staff .... I can tell you that you are 100% incorrect. Mods/staff themselves don't give a shit what is being discussed, or who wants to post what. We ended up spending lots of time and effort (which we would much rather NOT have been spending) trying to keep the thread "on track" and focused on events in the war, because it was our impression that's what most of the participants and contributors in the thread wanted. Of course it started changing over time (as you noted), and that was because the election started looming closer, and so mods got more aggressive in trying to avoid the thread being derailed by political/election-related stuff, because some people tend to feel really strongly about Trump (whether pro or con) and allowing political/election discussion seemed risky because it would almost certainly devolve into arguing about Trump. Again, the escalation in moderation was because of what we believed people wanted, not because of some mod/staff desire or secret motive. Honestly, if any theory involves mods/staff deliberately creating tons of annoying work for themselves, then that theory is wrong.  Mods/staff are volunteers with limited time, and would have liked nothing more than to NOT have to constantly babysit that thread.If your theory were correct, mods would be doing the same thing in this thread. They are not, and have no interest in doing so. If your theory were correct, mods would not have agreed to stop aggressively moderating the old thread. They did. Your theory about mod/staff motives is demonstrably wrong. Like I said, you can believe what you want. It makes zero difference to me. I am just telling you what the actual facts are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By Capta: ... The 5500-page epic Ukraine thread was intentionally killed by mods/staff 100% in an attempt to shield Trump and a handful of Republicans from discussion/criticism over the aid issue. Whatever you want to believe is fine. Makes no difference to me. But in case you are actually interested in facts rather than an invented conspiracy theory about mods/staff .... I can tell you that you are 100% incorrect. Mods/staff themselves don't give a shit what is being discussed, or who wants to post what. We ended up spending lots of time and effort (which we would much rather NOT have been spending) trying to keep the thread "on track" and focused on events in the war, because it was our impression that's what most of the participants and contributors in the thread wanted. Of course it started changing over time (as you noted), and that was because the election started looming closer, and so mods got more aggressive in trying to avoid the thread being derailed by political/election-related stuff, because some people tend to feel really strongly about Trump (whether pro or con) and allowing political/election discussion seemed risky because it would almost certainly devolve into arguing about Trump. Again, the escalation in moderation was because of what we believed people wanted, not because of some mod/staff desire or secret motive. Honestly, if any theory involves mods/staff deliberately creating tons of annoying work for themselves, then that theory is wrong. Mods/staff are volunteers with limited time, and would have liked nothing more than to NOT have to constantly babysit that thread.If your theory were correct, mods would be doing the same thing in this thread. They are not, and have no interest in doing so. If your theory were correct, mods would not have agreed to stop aggressively moderating the old thread. They did. Your theory about mod/staff motives is demonstrably wrong. Like I said, you can believe what you want. It makes zero difference to me. I am just telling you what the actual facts are. I stand by everything I wrote. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maddmatt: As this conflict has shown. Sometimes it’s good to have a bunch of old junk to give away or press into service Air freight out of Kabul would cost almost as much as new vehicles. The ones in Iraq were sometimes sold in region. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I've been kind of on a break from paying attention to Ukraine for like a month or so. How are things going in Pokrovsk? Any indication that Russia is getting bogged down? Or are they still advancing? They are advancing. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:27:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: They are advancing. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:47:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: They are advancing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I've been kind of on a break from paying attention to Ukraine for like a month or so. How are things going in Pokrovsk? Any indication that Russia is getting bogged down? Or are they still advancing? They are advancing. Popka - durak. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I've been kind of on a break from paying attention to Ukraine for like a month or so. How are things going in Pokrovsk? Any indication that Russia is getting bogged down? Or are they still advancing? Advancing but south and to a lesser degree north but not directly west into the town. Russia is roughly 5 miles away but attempting to flank Smaller gains elsewhere in the east but Chasiv Yar is holding for now Ukraine even managed to keep a slice of New York But overall I’d say looks bad going forward This could change in the next 6 weeks so still time left for things to change, Ukraine maintains they will fight through mud season, so I could be off in my assessment |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:03:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:06:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: I could imagine a scenario where Israel would until Iran has expended billions more of money that they don't have before burying the nukes underground. Stuxnet didn't end their nuke program either, but it did set it back years. Whatever Israel can or can’t do, the time is almost up per IAEA chief inspector https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-atomic-chief-hopes-to-hold-talks-with-irans-new-president-before-us-election/ 
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:13:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alex9661]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: That’s a very young VKS pilot. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXN5Ov5WsAA2erL?format=jpg&name=900x900 I'm pretty sure it's an old picture. Both killed pilots were Captains and the guy in the picture has shoulder boards with the rank insignia of a Junior Sergeant. Most likely this picture was taken when he was a squad leader while studying in an Air Force academy. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 3 days to Kiev! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: They are advancing. They might get there, eventually. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:21:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
There have been a whole bunch of these announcements lately. I hope there are many more, and spies/traitors get rounded up by the hundreds. 10 years is a light sentence for a long career of betrayal. And it was a native-born Chinese citizen, go figure. A CIA agent disloyal to the USA, and not caught for years.  They'd never even give me a job, but this guy was loyal to another country and had that sweet security clearance, working for The Company. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: There have been a whole bunch of these announcements lately. I hope there are many more, and spies/traitors get rounded up by the hundreds. 10 years is a light sentence for a long career of betrayal. And it was a native-born Chinese citizen, go figure. A CIA agent disloyal to the USA, and not caught for years. They'd never even give me a job, but this guy was loyal to another country and had that sweet security clearance, working for The Company. https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/10/exclusive-alleged-chinese-spy-spent-years-rubbing-elbows-dem-congresswoman-grace-meng/  
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:46:37 PM EDT
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Posted < 12 hrs ago.
 4/ Russian forces recently marginally advanced southeast of Pokrovsk and west of Donetsk City amid continued offensive operations in the area on September 10. Geolocated footage published on September 9 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced west and southwest of Mykhailivka (southeast of Pokrovsk and just east of Selydove). Geolocated footage published on September 10 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced in western Krasnohorivka, indicating that Russian forces have seized the entire settlement. The Russian MoD claimed that Russian forces seized Halytsynivka (southeast of Pokrovsk and further southeast of Mykhailivka), although ISW has not observed confirmation of Russian forces operating in the southernmost part of Halytsynivka. Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces advanced up to 1.5 kilometers west of Novohrodivka (southeast of Pokrovsk) and northeast of Selydove (southeast of Pokrovsk), but ISW has not observed confirmation of these claims. Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets noted that Russian forces are struggling to simultaneously advance towards Pokrovsk itself and southeast of Pokrovskalong the Selydove-Ukrainsk-Hirnyk line despite concentrating over almost an entire army corps worth of manpower and equipment in the area
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:00:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sywagon]
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nvm
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: If all bans were lifted and the moderation standard matched this thread it’s certainly still a viable topic. My concerns would be: -posters lured back and then moderation changes again, perhaps selectively or stealthily. -as the OP is fairly limited, there will always be an option for “creatively strict interpretation” of “on-topic.” -The realities of the world situation are matching up better and better every day with this thread, whether that’s the “big-picture” connections between the Russia-Iran-China, or just straight news on China. Yes, the Ukraine war is still the most important feature of “proto-WW3”, however, this thread is built to do both Ukraine and the big picture, and does so well. We’re nearly at 500 pages and at some point it will be 5,000 pages. I firmly believe this thread is (already) the next Ukraine War thread. It certainly wouldn’t offend me if posting resumed, but I tend to think that the thread (not the topic) has been basically obsoleted. I like the fact this thread also contains developments of the rest of the current cold WW3 and not only Ukraine, though primarily Ukraine. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:14:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Without TOO much thread drift: 1) If you are in the business of shooting down incoming missiles, having a counterfire capability both saves interceptor missiles reduces engagement windows, as the enemy can't really launch missiles in multiple waves if their launcher systems are quickly turned into debris and wreckage scattered around a really big crater (or a whole bunch of smaller craters if they are closer) after the first shot. Digitally sending a 10-digit grid to the to the appropriate FA leadership/operators has a much faster "flash to bang" than sending it to the Air Force, as proven conclusively during the Desert Storm "SCUD hunts". Artillery interdiction of TBMs requires the FA have something with the legs to get there fast; plus, with the exception of a few VT fuze variants, FA counterfire really doesn't have major issues overcoming weather, camouflage, concealment, or poor visibility. 2) FA and ADA have a lot of radars and other detection high-resolution capabilities that tend to be looking into the sky, with engagement-level (Greater than 400 millisecond) update rates. If you link them, the coverage is awesome for both air detection/tracking and counterfire capability. FA also requires an Air Picture for S/A and digital airspace clearance only takes about 10 seconds, as opposed to 45 seconds to over a minute for current airspace clearance. AFATADS (the FA system) and FAADC2I (the ADA system) were always integrated, and are both embedded in the Fires Functional Network. Also, the ADA bubbas made sure that the FA (as well as Army Aviation) had a "seat at the table" relatively early in the process of developing both the Joint and Army Integrated Air Pictures, as meetings/negotiations tend to go better when you show up with an entourage that includes a few stray O6's with broad and varied experiences instead of just you and a wing dude/dudette.  
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:35:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Bueller? Well we know one company over promises with aerospace |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:45:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Air freight out of Kabul would cost almost as much as new vehicles. The ones in Iraq were sometimes sold in region. Its just frustrating that no one complained about the cost of flying thousands of trucks (and everything else) to fucking shithole Afghanistan for futile idiotic nation building fiasco's but now when the US tax payers ask about their fucking gear..."it's too expensive to get it back". Fuck be upon all the inept idiots responsible. p.s. "we" are still sending the Taliban $$$ as aid...to fight...terrorists... |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: There have been a whole bunch of these announcements lately. I hope there are many more, and spies/traitors get rounded up by the hundreds. 10 years is a light sentence for a long career of betrayal. And it was a native-born Chinese citizen, go figure. A CIA agent disloyal to the USA, and not caught for years. They'd never even give me a job, but this guy was loyal to another country and had that sweet security clearance, working for The Company. I guess you are not a registered democrat... |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI find it amazing that the doj is actually looking at spies associated with democrats. Something must have changed recently. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:52:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Its just frustrating that no one complained about the cost of flying thousands of trucks (and everything else) to fucking shithole Afghanistan for futile idiotic nation building fiasco's but now when the US tax payers ask about their fucking gear..."it's too expensive to get it back". Fuck be upon all the inept idiots responsible. p.s. "we" are still sending the Taliban $$$ as aid...to fight...terrorists... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Air freight out of Kabul would cost almost as much as new vehicles. The ones in Iraq were sometimes sold in region. Its just frustrating that no one complained about the cost of flying thousands of trucks (and everything else) to fucking shithole Afghanistan for futile idiotic nation building fiasco's but now when the US tax payers ask about their fucking gear..."it's too expensive to get it back". Fuck be upon all the inept idiots responsible. p.s. "we" are still sending the Taliban $$$ as aid...to fight...terrorists... Kind of bad take on 9/11. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:00:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 Caesar and his Legion: British Veteran Paratrooper in Ukraine |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:01:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Kind of bad take on 9/11. As I watched the towers come down 23 years ago, I never once thought "we need to gift thousands of trucks, HMMV's, and guns to the assholes that did this". Once bin Laden slipped out of Tora Bora and was living comfortable with our friends and allies in Pakistan, it was time to pack up and go home. Yes I know it's easy to be a genius after the fact but how many times will we make this same stupid mistake? And now, here we are fucking over Ukraine and they are actually fighting and dying. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:03:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: That's not how any of that works. Not remotely, even in the slightest. South Korea is quite specific about all this; it's been detailed over the years in various articles because South Korea's policy gives arms controllers fits as being "escalatory" and "destabilizing", so they write lengthy articles; which is how we know about most of this. For those of you in the peanut gallery; there's a reason South Korea drew up these specific plans: 26 March 2010: ROKS Cheonan is sunk by a North Korean torpedo, with 46 KIA. 23 November 2010: North Korea fired 170+ shells/rockets at Yeonpyeong Island, killing 20 and wounding 50+ (both military and civilians). Those incidents nearly 15 years in the past, profoundly affected South Korean policymakers; leading to the 2016-2022 period where they formulated the "Three Axis System": Axis 1.) The Kill Chain -- in short, Curtis LeMay is alive and well in South Korea. If SK even so much as *THINKS* North Korea is going to do something, they will immediately and pre-emptively strike North Korean Nuclear and Missile facilities right away. Axis 2.) The Korean Air & Missile Defense (KAMD) System -- The Korean version of the US NMD/TMD system, with multiple types of interceptors, to deal with the inevitable North Korean response(s) to Axises 1 and 3. Lasers are already being introduced/integrated (Block I Laser) to deal with UAVs and other targets in KAMD. Axis 3.) The Korea Massive Punishment and Retaliation (KMPR) Plan -- as mentioned before to you -- it's the "Grand Tour" of North Korean Leadership locations. South Korea will escalate massively right from the start on all North Korean leadership targets within range of South Korean munitions or special forces. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:05:47 PM EDT
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David Muir- " Do you want Ukraine to win this war?"
President Trump-" I want the war to stop, I want to save lives that are being uselessly...people being killed by the millions, it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are fake numbers." Consistent with what I've heard him say in the past. End the war quickly no matter what it takes. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:12:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: As I watched the towers come down 23 years ago, I never once thought "we need to gift thousands of trucks, HMMV's, and guns to the assholes that did this". Once bin Laden slipped out of Tora Bora and was living comfortable with our friends and allies in Pakistan, it was time to pack up and go home. Yes I know it's easy to be a genius after the fact but how many times will we make this same stupid mistake? And now, here we are fucking over Ukraine and they are actually fighting and dying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By fike: Kind of bad take on 9/11. As I watched the towers come down 23 years ago, I never once thought "we need to gift thousands of trucks, HMMV's, and guns to the assholes that did this". Once bin Laden slipped out of Tora Bora and was living comfortable with our friends and allies in Pakistan, it was time to pack up and go home. Yes I know it's easy to be a genius after the fact but how many times will we make this same stupid mistake? And now, here we are fucking over Ukraine and they are actually fighting and dying. You make quite a few posts complaining with the benefit of hindsight, but I’m not sure this one works. Walking away from Afghanistan two months after 9/11 would have gone over swimmingly with the American people. Sorry folks, just trying to save the taxpayers some money. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:15:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: daemon734]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MKSheppard: South Korea is quite specific about all this; it's been detailed over the years in various articles because South Korea's policy gives arms controllers fits as being "escalatory" and "destabilizing", so they write lengthy articles; which is how we know about most of this. For those of you in the peanut gallery; there's a reason South Korea drew up these specific plans: 26 March 2010: ROKS Cheonan is sunk by a North Korean torpedo, with 46 KIA. 23 November 2010: North Korea fired 170+ shells/rockets at Yeonpyeong Island, killing 20 and wounding 50+ (both military and civilians). Those incidents nearly 15 years in the past, profoundly affected South Korean policymakers; leading to the 2016-2022 period where they formulated the "Three Axis System": Axis 1.) The Kill Chain -- in short, Curtis LeMay is alive and well in South Korea. If SK even so much as *THINKS* North Korea is going to do something, they will immediately and pre-emptively strike North Korean Nuclear and Missile facilities right away. Axis 2.) The Korean Air & Missile Defense (KAMD) System -- The Korean version of the US NMD/TMD system, with multiple types of interceptors, to deal with the inevitable North Korean response(s) to Axises 1 and 3. Lasers are already being introduced/integrated (Block I Laser) to deal with UAVs and other targets in KAMD. Axis 3.) The Korea Massive Punishment and Retaliation (KMPR) Plan -- as mentioned before to you -- it's the "Grand Tour" of North Korean Leadership locations. South Korea will escalate massively right from the start on all North Korean leadership targets within range of South Korean munitions or special forces. Too bad most of those targets are deep underground, literally thousands of them, and the South would be on the receiving end of the worst shelling in history right off the bat. Seriously, having a plan is a great thing, but the outcome of said plan is not the only variable, nor the only outcome. The Korea problem is a lot more complex even with direct US intervention, to the point where we are still sitting in WFX's arguing about how to achieve it decades in. Your assumptions are just flat wrong. You don't know what you don't know. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: David Muir- " Do you want Ukraine to win this war?" President Trump-" I want the war to stop, I want to save lives that are being uselessly...people being killed by the millions, it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are fake numbers." Consistent with what I've heard him say in the past. End the war quickly no matter what it takes. Anyone with half a brain know what that means Ceeding territory |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:31:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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North Korea fired off some missiles
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240912001452315 https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/09/6b5b2abe4ca9-update1-n-korea-fires-possible-ballistic-missile-into-sea-japan-govt.html   https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia/south-koreans-are-starkly-divided-over-north-koreas-nuclear-threat/article_2cd51530-5e37-5db3-97cb-7b7797737479.html 
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:38:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:02:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: The U.S. is demanding a clear strategy from Zelensky regarding strikes against Russia before lifting restrictions, according to Bloomberg. During their visit to Kyiv, U.S. Secretary of State Blinken and UK Foreign Secretary Lammy sought a long-term plan from Zelensky for the coming year to better understand Ukraine's objectives. https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-11/us-wants-ukraine-to-detail-plan-before-allowing-russia-strikes |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:03:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:09:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2024 1:15:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Thats fucking rich. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By HIPPO: The U.S. is demanding a clear strategy from Zelensky regarding strikes against Russia before lifting restrictions, according to Bloomberg. During their visit to Kyiv, U.S. Secretary of State Blinken and UK Foreign Secretary Lammy sought a long-term plan from Zelensky for the coming year to better understand Ukraine's objectives. https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-11/us-wants-ukraine-to-detail-plan-before-allowing-russia-strikes Our business community doesn't want russia mad at the US down the road. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 1:23:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/38831 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2611-3319967.jpg Ok, so china is already to the point that they are manufacturing war drones that are impervious to drone jamming. China isn't even in a drone war. With the amount of fiber they feed out they would be fantastic for hitting a ship as a swarm. I hope our own military is taking notes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 3:14:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Ok, so china is already to the point that they are manufacturing war drones that are impervious to drone jamming. China isn't even in a drone war. With the amount of fiber they feed out they would be fantastic for hitting a ship as a swarm. I hope our own military is taking notes. For many years China has been leading in drone tech. You should watch some of the shows they put on with them. Thousands of pre programmed drones flying in amazing formations. Not to hard for them to adapt or program them for military applications. |
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