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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By brass: Where did the backpack go, where was it found? It wasn't on the roof. Is this speculation or a bit of information leaked from local LEO? ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157876/arhar-3277564.png That’s it |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: wasn't he there a few days before flying a drone..?? He could have hid the rifle there the same day This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) I read a fox news article that quoted some spokesperson that said the dad legally purchased the gun at some point and legally sold the gun to his son. |
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View Quote The cops talking on the roof badgecam video said that was their backpack. I guess it had first aid shit in it or something. Dude had his AR and his bullets with him. What from his backpack would he have needed to take up on the roof with him? |
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View Quote Isn't that the local PD's bag? In the video where they're debriefing the fed in a suit, they specifically point to that bag and say "no that's ours." |
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Originally Posted By turborocket: When I pause the video, it seems like the bodycammed guy is pointing at 3 separate roof panels when counting out the shell casings, and they were the 3 panels immediately to the right of the shooter. View Quote Right, not one slide down the roof. I would consider that an anomaly. |
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Originally Posted By wsix: I understand your point. I have installed about 30 roofs like this. A screw is also not a ball and they slide down the roof. It's a 2/12 pitch. One out of five may stay at the top, but all 5? stay at the top? They aren't rolling, they are sliding. I realize you are taking the other side to make me explain myself and I believe I have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wsix: Originally Posted By Chokey: 223/556 casings don't roll straight, so they're going roll against one of the roof ridges that about a foot apart. So they're not going to be spread out like you think they would. I understand your point. I have installed about 30 roofs like this. A screw is also not a ball and they slide down the roof. It's a 2/12 pitch. One out of five may stay at the top, but all 5? stay at the top? They aren't rolling, they are sliding. I realize you are taking the other side to make me explain myself and I believe I have. From the videos, that roof appears old, weathered, dirty, dented, full of debris, and riddled with chipped paint - all things that would reduce the liklihood of a bullet casing sliding down it. |
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Originally Posted By wsix: Right, not one slide down the roof. I would consider that an anomaly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wsix: Originally Posted By turborocket: When I pause the video, it seems like the bodycammed guy is pointing at 3 separate roof panels when counting out the shell casings, and they were the 3 panels immediately to the right of the shooter. Right, not one slide down the roof. I would consider that an anomaly. It's not a steep roof. |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: It's not a steep roof. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By wsix: Originally Posted By turborocket: When I pause the video, it seems like the bodycammed guy is pointing at 3 separate roof panels when counting out the shell casings, and they were the 3 panels immediately to the right of the shooter. Right, not one slide down the roof. I would consider that an anomaly. It's not a steep roof. And the cases taper so they roll in an arc. |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Isn't that the local PD's bag? In the video where they're debriefing the fed in a suit, they specifically point to that bag and say "no that's ours." View Quote Just would seem weird to me that a swat team would use an off the shelf commercial laptop bag as a med bag, and then seem to abandon it up there appearing mostly empty after the fact? It was also just left up there later when everyone was off the roof and they did this drone fly over, why would they just leave their med gear up there at that point? https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/fbedfbcb-2481-4947-9def-bce46ac72c1c/doanld-trump-40-ht-gmh-240713_1720924455231_hpMain.jpg ETA: At the very end of this video, around 28 minutes, the camo SWAT cop points to the Swiss Gear bag and says "he (the shooter) had that black backpack". ![]() SENSITIVE CONTENT: Full Bodycam Footage Obtained by Grassley from Beaver Co. Emergency Services Unit |
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Originally Posted By tree-hugger: LOL. With that low of an access point and barely slanted roof?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Hold my beer... View Quote Right? I routinely see little Hispanic fellers running up ladders with packs of shingles. Even if you had to do some climbing, throw that bitch up there and then climb. |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote Looks to me like a chunk is missing. It's been two weeks so why would he still be wearing a band-aid? |
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Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways:
Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. ![]() The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. ![]() He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. ![]() |
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote That's your conclusion? ![]() |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote You can't tell anything from that blurry ass photo. They are trolling for clicks. |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote He knows how to do that Terminator self-heal thing. Or maybe he got a couple stitches, a little healing time, and a bunch of makeup. Probably the Terminator thing though. |
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Trump's got one of those 1800s style prosthetics. Its a fake ear attached to a wig.
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Originally Posted By midmo: He knows how to do that Terminator self-heal thing. Or maybe he got a couple stitches, a little healing time, and a bunch of makeup. Probably the Terminator thing though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg He knows how to do that Terminator self-heal thing. Or maybe he got a couple stitches, a little healing time, and a bunch of makeup. Probably the Terminator thing though. Dewd...it was a WWE move where he used a razor in his hand to cut his ear. ![]() ETA - He'll be brought up on charges at any time for being an accessory to a murder and two attempted murders. I say that kind of jokingly. Many of us believe that is a narrative the dems would love to set up. wray's testimony was the start of that narrative. ![]() |
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
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Originally Posted By midmo: Yup. The only thing that will roll uninterrupted all the way down a ridged roof is the drill bit you need for the chimney cap you're working on that just fell out of the cheesy cordless drill chuck. ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By Chokey: Originally Posted By wsix: Originally Posted By Chokey: who said they're in a pile? ![]() Logic does. The guy saw them at the peak and counted them in 2 seconds. They were all within his direct gaze. He didn't have to look for them. 223/556 casings don't roll straight, so they're going roll against one of the roof ridges that about a foot apart. So they're not going to be spread out like you think they would. Yup. The only thing that will roll uninterrupted all the way down a ridged roof is the drill bit you need for the chimney cap you're working on that just fell out of the cheesy cordless drill chuck. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote You can see the damaged bit in the picture you posted man. It’s blurry, but around 11:00 there is a small piece missing. |
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Originally Posted By DaGoose: Just a little different, but figure it's the same type. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231492/vlcsnap-2024-07-25-17h06m03s031-3276855.png View Quote Black ladder (0:14) ![]() Riddle Me This BatMan |
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Originally Posted By sydney7629: Did you notice the officer/agent in front of Trump's vehicle at 6:37 in the video. He appears to be on the radio, then walks up closer to the hood and points his rifle into the SUV after Trump was inside. Then he seems to back away while on the radio again. i cannot for the life of me understand why he would point his weapon into the vehicle like that... View Quote Depth of field. You can see that same person in other videos taken from a different angle and he isn't close to Trump's vehicle. I've even seen a multiple videos side by side where the man's movements are in sync. It is just like the crowd behind Trump. They are a lot further back that what your eyes tell you. |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote I hope you're being obtuse. ![]() Nobody has EVER been able to fix damaged ears. Oh, wait... ![]() Dr Lee Restores Patient’s Overly Stretched Earlobe | Dr Pimple Popper: Pop Ups ![]() Dr. Lee Removes 14 Oz Keloid From Woman's Ear | Dr. Pimple Popper |
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Originally Posted By wsix: ![]() Assuming all of you have fired an AR and some of you have dropped a screw on a metal roof. How in the hell are all of the fired brass in a pile near the roof peak? What a load of total bullshit. Whoever staged that is probably directing Disney Star Wars shows. That brass would be in the gutter or way down the roof. View Quote Not if ejecting @1-3 o'clock. |
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Originally Posted By doolyd: Trump wasn't hit at all. seen-no-bandage-first-time https://imagez.tmz.com/image/13/4by3/2024/07/26/13da94b3d64b4a6b8f50a33c87d069b8_md.jpg View Quote ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Advance: Like a BOSS! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/SNAG-0097_png-3277627.JPG View Quote Fucking madlad |
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Crossposting from the FBI thread. NYT shot analysis shows Trump shot with the first shot.
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Originally Posted By safe1: No sling? I'd love to see someone shimmy up onto a roof carrying an AR without a sling. View Quote This. That’s the puzzling part. Plus a lot of YouTube experts don’t know the difference between a folding and collapsible stock. Either one doesn’t make a rifle disappear. |
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Monday…
![]() "Wars Start Because of Assassinations" | Official Preview "Wars Start Because of Assassination In this fast-paced interview on the Shawn Ryan Show, Erik Prince returns for his third appearance to provide exclusive insights into the near-fatal shooting of former President Donald Trump. With his extensive background leading the world's largest private military company (PMC), which has never lost a protectee, Erik delves into the alarming incident and the broader implications for national security. Erik discusses the astonishing details of the assassination attempt, highlighting critical failures within the Secret Service and the shocking fact that a 20-year-old assailant outmaneuvered the nation's premier protective agency. He addresses the deep-rooted issues within federal institutions and the politicization that threatens the very fabric of the Republic. Erik's analysis extends to the potential dangers of future attacks, drawing parallels to historical events and emphasizing the need for a robust security mindset. Erik points out an important question during the interview: “What are they going to do against a 10-man Hezbollah team?” |
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![]() Originally Posted By Advance: Like a BOSS! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/SNAG-0097_png-3277627.JPG View Quote ![]() |
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View Quote Good thing it wasn’t a roller lock HK, the casings would still be in orbit. |
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Originally Posted By Alacran: Monday… ![]() "Wars Start Because of Assassination In this fast-paced interview on the Shawn Ryan Show, Erik Prince returns for his third appearance to provide exclusive insights into the near-fatal shooting of former President Donald Trump. With his extensive background leading the world's largest private military company (PMC), which has never lost a protectee, Erik delves into the alarming incident and the broader implications for national security. Erik discusses the astonishing details of the assassination attempt, highlighting critical failures within the Secret Service and the shocking fact that a 20-year-old assailant outmaneuvered the nation's premier protective agency. He addresses the deep-rooted issues within federal institutions and the politicization that threatens the very fabric of the Republic. Erik's analysis extends to the potential dangers of future attacks, drawing parallels to historical events and emphasizing the need for a robust security mindset. Erik points out an important question during the interview: “What are they going to do against a 10-man Hezbollah team?” View Quote I know we hate the USSS right now, but the men on Trump's detail were pretty quick to get on top of him (reaching for him as the third shot is fired.) I don't think a 10-man team would be more effective than a skilled sniper. There were still a lot of good guys with guns around Trump when shit hit the fan. |
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Originally Posted By brass: The IEDs were in the conversion van he drove to the event, he left his car at Home Depot or something. I'm not sure how many times that story changed but there's a bike, a Hyundai Sonata, and a conversion van all reported to be his, along with a ladder (of indeterminate type), drone, laser rangefinder, and a $500 AR with crap sight (Holosun/Eotech/Eotech knockoff) details on sight unclear since it's blurred or cropped or pushed entirely out of frame in videos. The rifle was never seen while he walking around in the hours before, rifle potentially in backpack which he's seen with then without but no details on where he stashed it and if it actually contained the rifle, or if he pre-cached the rifle in an evergreen tree or was literally handed to him by unknown bad actor. It's all so tedious. View Quote This is my take as well. Nobody has explained the bombs, van, car, bike, rifle, and backpack(s) to my satisfaction. |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Originally Posted By Advance: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-26_16-46-37_png-3277655.JPG View Quote My man. |
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Originally Posted By Cycolac: Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways: Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151030_Gallery_jpg-3277582.JPG The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_152002_Gallery_jpg-3277584.JPG He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151310_Gallery_jpg-3277590.JPG View Quote The second route would also have him heading towards Sheetz as AGR sniper 1 reported. |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Originally Posted By SnowMexican: ‘Christ Protects Him’: Donald Trump Becomes Mexican Folk Hero in Songs on Assassination Attempt https://media.breitbart.com/media/2024/07/AP24196012599236-1-640x480.jpg Multiple Mexican corridos, or narrative folk songs, telling the story of former President Donald Trump’s narrow escape from death in a July 13 assassination attempt have gone viral in the past week on social media. The posts rejoice in Trump as divinely protected and a man who “has never known fear.” https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2024/07/24/christ-protects-him-donald-trump-becomes-mexican-folk-hero-in-songs-on-assassination-attempt/ View Quote here’s one trump Mexican folk song |
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Originally Posted By Advance: Not if ejecting @1-3 o'clock. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Advance: Originally Posted By wsix: ![]() Assuming all of you have fired an AR and some of you have dropped a screw on a metal roof. How in the hell are all of the fired brass in a pile near the roof peak? What a load of total bullshit. Whoever staged that is probably directing Disney Star Wars shows. That brass would be in the gutter or way down the roof. Not if ejecting @1-3 o'clock. This. A lot of ARs eject forwards, especially lower-cost carbine ARs like the reported DPMS (they didn't make midlengths). The slope on the roof is actually pretty shallow, and it looks like some kind of texture. I dont' think cases would slide down that roof. |
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Originally Posted By Cycolac: Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways: Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151030_Gallery_jpg-3277582.JPG The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_152002_Gallery_jpg-3277584.JPG He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151310_Gallery_jpg-3277590.JPG View Quote Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: wasn't he there a few days before flying a drone..?? He could have hid the rifle there the same day This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase |
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Originally Posted By giantpune: The cops talking on the roof badgecam video said that was their backpack. I guess it had first aid shit in it or something. Dude had his AR and his bullets with him. What from his backpack would he have needed to take up on the roof with him? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By giantpune: The cops talking on the roof badgecam video said that was their backpack. I guess it had first aid shit in it or something. Dude had his AR and his bullets with him. What from his backpack would he have needed to take up on the roof with him? At that point there were (2) backpacks on the roof - I'm guessing he speculated, or he should have he clarified, that EMS had brought (1) pack up, and (1) was already there ? |
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: wasn't he there a few days before flying a drone..?? He could have hid the rifle there the same day This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase That's the weird part.. In pennsylvania you don't have to do any paperwork To sell a rifle... Also a father can give his son or daughter a rifle or a handgun without any paperwork. Unless the dad knows the kids crazy why the hell would he go through the process of transferring the ownership to his son. It's not even required by law and it's not free.... Seems crazy to pay like fifty bucks for a service that isn't even required. |
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