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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:20:23 PM EDT
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This was due to gross margins and has little to do with the degredation issue from motherboard makers overvoltaging the Intel processors outside of specs.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m200maker: This will be Boeing soon. Keep hiring those Indian bosses who keep hiring Indian engineers and diversity hires. Because feelings and social justice. AI is going to shake things up for a while. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLASwamp: I'm not in tech, but I've also heard it's bad. Some say worse than when the dot.com bubble burst. The Great Recession was awful but the economy had been terrible long before then. It went all the way back to 2000. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: Who remembers Cyrix? We need a resurgence…. Had a Cyrix math co-processor. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:41:08 PM EDT
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Intel has been one of my worst holdings. I keep holding on waiting for that turnaround, but they just suck, and keep sucking worse.
Something happens to old companies. They get riddled with bureaucracy, inefficiency and incompetance . Sears, GM, Boeing etc. The list is long and distinguished. It’s damned near impossible to ever turn one around. Can you guys even think of One company that succeeded? Chrysler did a Fake turnaround with their K Cars. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mooseless: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/579279/IMG_4780_png-3282889.JPG Every big company in this country has a page like that. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilHouse-556: I've still been rolling out 12th Gen Intel processors laptops/desktops for my customers. Sad state of affairs. Intel is like Boeing now. Wtf is happening with our large American companies?  Competency crisis. Competent people are retiring which is at least part of the problem. Intel is accelerating this with the plan to offer enhanced retirement options. In the future, DEI hiring will SURELY solve any skills deficit. 
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:45:53 PM EDT
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The chips get more and more complicated.
The people making them, not so much. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Originally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts It has been primed to go ballistic for a while. Commercial real estate and the shipping industry are being held together by the time bomb of “extend and pretend” loans. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:52:03 PM EDT
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intel is beholden to stockholders like everyone else, either buybacks to buy a quarter , cuts, whatever it takes to get the stock price up
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:53:47 PM EDT
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If Intel is anything like the major corporation I work at, they will keep all the people who created the problem and lay off those who are mitigating the issue.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Originally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts Tech companies lead the bull and it's going to lead the bear. Economy is being propped up by financial gymnastics and gaslighting for the election. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. Unilever laid off last week. There will be another round in September. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLDiver: Who remembers Cyrix? We need a resurgence…. Took an assembler class with one of the dudes that helped develop the Cyrix RISC architecture. He was a smart guy, but a complete dick. The last Intel processor I bought was fantastic. CeleronA chips were legit. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: learn to code. 
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:20:40 PM EDT
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My 14900k still ticking along
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:22:08 PM EDT
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The cuts are not related to the cpu disaster.
This is long in the running. Three quarters they told us we are through the worst but the failures they are doing with IDM2.0 transition is pure planning failures, calculation errors made by overachievers that needed to profile themself and poor execution. Looked good on paper but is shit in reality! The things they tell us we need to change is the same that they told us two decades ago and have never changed since the change process is too ridged to change. Chicken or egg is the question and nothing will really change. It’s the Intel Way!!! |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:25:38 PM EDT
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My build earlier this year, thing sat at 190-200F+ 14700 k not even OC'd. Effin a. Sent all that back, built another 14700k all good. Both liquid cooled almost the same hardware, though the second one I went 5th gen ssd instead of gen 4 and get quite a bit faster disk speed 10.5k or so.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:30:48 PM EDT
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I have a friend who's an engineer there. He said all the promotions last year were straight DEI.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. At Intel, it is Pat Gelsinger’s fault. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:33:20 PM EDT
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23 years at Intel. took a buyout as soon as it was offered.
They like to let go of senior people and then hire them as contract (green badge) workers at a substantial pay cut. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:45:00 PM EDT
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Well crap, guess I'll just go AMD next time if this ends up being a inevitable problem.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:48:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveJRSC: AMD FTW Yup, laughing in Threadripper... |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 9:57:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Just like crowdstrike... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By cruze5: Nothing but intel at work sadly that hurts a lot of people. Did they don't test before release? Just like crowdstrike...  Intel is one of the most woke-shit companies out there ... they are the Boeing of the chip industry. Faggety-fag who joined our zoom at work was just incredibly stupid and insisted on pronouns before kicking things off. "It" didn't like how I said (coldly), "Lets just get started. Shall we?" I just saw the "it" change their LI caption to with the green-halo-of-shame Sometimes, HR gets it right |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I'm beginning to believe you're actually a parrot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: learn to code. Learn to |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:00:03 PM EDT
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is Intel still going ahead with building its chip factories in the US?
i remember they got a few billions of US taxpayer money to do that |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:00:47 PM EDT
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F in chat for the guy on Reddit who put $700,000 of his Grandma's inheritance in INTC stock before market close...
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:03:22 PM EDT
[#29]
The Tundra of processors.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:04:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: https://gifdb.com/images/high/oh-snap-kenan-thompson-shock-p52iozfklqixttoz.webp Intel is one of the most woke-shit companies out there ... they are the Boeing of the chip industry. Faggety-fag who joined our zoom at work was just incredibly stupid and insisted on pronouns before kicking things off. "It" didn't like how I said (coldly), "Lets just get started. Shall we?" I just saw the "it" change their LI caption to with the green-halo-of-shame Sometimes, HR gets it right I don't know what this means. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:05:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LonghornAR: Tech companies lead the bull and it's going to lead the bear. Economy is being propped up by financial gymnastics and gaslighting for the election. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LonghornAR: Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Originally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts Tech companies lead the bull and it's going to lead the bear. Economy is being propped up by financial gymnastics and gaslighting for the election. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:07:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mattpsky]
[#32]
This happened to me on a new build. Gen 14 i9.
I spent another few hundred bucks for new ram as it seemed the likely problem with instability. Various testing apps pointed to RAM as problem. Then I happened upon a Reddit on the issue and lowered from stock voltage and instability stopped for the most part. Called intel and they blamed the mobo mfg. (it’s a high end one) and told me to pound sand. Now this comes out and I am not happy. AMD for me from here on out. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:07:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:08:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrewsky: I have a friend who's an engineer there. He said all the promotions last year were straight DEI. This and I'm sure it's accelerating. I was a knuckle dragger at RA until a few years ago and mod2 was trash compared to mod1. The brain trust that builds and maintains these facilities is aging out and not be replaced with equal competence. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Sounds like an absolute disaster. Sounds like they hired McKinsey as consultants. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: The Tundra of processors. Sort of accurate. Toyota still has time albeit it's fleeting. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:17:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JVD]
[#37]
Oh wow, most of their fab facilities are in the US. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Every big company in this country has a page like that. But as other posters (and Intel’s rapid decline) have confirmed, they’re not just preaching it, they’re living it. 
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_Mike: This was due to gross margins and has little to do with the degredation issue from motherboard makers overvoltaging the Intel processors outside of specs. The thing is though it’s still a massive issue at intel rec voltages. Which I’m pretty sure came out after they found the issue and lower them. I have to run under the voltages published by intel to maintain stability and many others do too. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:29:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattpsky: The thing is though it’s still a massive issue at intel rec voltages. Which I’m pretty sure came out after they found the issue and lower them. I have to run under the voltages published by intel to maintain stability and many others do too. If you are having to undervolt to maintain stability your processor has unfortunately already beem damaged. You need to go ahead and start the replacement process with Intel. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GDaawg: If you are having to undervolt to maintain stability your processor has unfortunately already beem damaged. You need to go ahead and start the replacement process with Intel. I tried before with no luck but might try again. This thing has been a giant PITA. I’m lazy so I didn’t want to do all that but since my wife uses it too I’ll probably have to soon. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By broken_reticle: Took an assembler class with one of the dudes that helped develop the Cyrix RISC architecture. He was a smart guy, but a complete dick. The last Intel processor I bought was fantastic. CeleronA chips were legit. To be honest, Apple is doing the right thing with their Mx line of chips. Intel used to be the king of chips but slept on their laurels for far too long. I agree the ones that were responsible for the current predicament will keep their jobs. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GDaawg: If you are having to undervolt to maintain stability your processor has unfortunately already beem damaged. You need to go ahead and start the replacement process with Intel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GDaawg: Originally Posted By mattpsky: The thing is though it's still a massive issue at intel rec voltages. Which I'm pretty sure came out after they found the issue and lower them. I have to run under the voltages published by intel to maintain stability and many others do too. If you are having to undervolt to maintain stability your processor has unfortunately already beem damaged. You need to go ahead and start the replacement process with Intel. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:41:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilHouse-556: Sort of accurate. Toyota still has time albeit it's fleeting. Slipped 3 places this month if I recall it’s out of the top 10 reliable surveys now which caught me by surprise given 2021 was a good year for them |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:43:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattpsky: I tried before with no luck but might try again. This thing has been a giant PITA. I'm lazy so I didn't want to do all that but since my wife uses it too I'll probably have to soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattpsky: Originally Posted By GDaawg: If you are having to undervolt to maintain stability your processor has unfortunately already beem damaged. You need to go ahead and start the replacement process with Intel. I tried before with no luck but might try again. This thing has been a giant PITA. I'm lazy so I didn't want to do all that but since my wife uses it too I'll probably have to soon. Depending on the MB there may be an 'Intel default settings' option if you update the BIOS to current. IMO Intel knew these chips were failing at a high rate and tried to blame MB manufacturers. Granted the OC tuning on these chips didn't help but apparently even the 'Intel default settings' is STILL too high of voltages but it will at least turn off some of these crazy numbers some MB manufacturers were allowing. I have a 12700k which thankfully isn't impacted by these current issues but I still set the power limits in BIOS to the Intel settings just recently after a BIOS update. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:50:06 PM EDT
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Anybody who thinks this is related to DEI has no clue how this industry works. Semiconductor companies may be the vanguard of this nonsense, but the demands are such that ability is what rules the roost. If you actually relied on DEI, you'd be dead in a year.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:51:47 PM EDT
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Pelosi got that stock purchased just in time.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:57:34 PM EDT
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Crazy to not have seen these failures during testing
They skipped steps to get the product out |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 10:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLASwamp: My last several builds have all been AMD. The price/performance ratio can't be beat. They have really leveled-up since they introduced the Ryzen processors. Now there is really no reason to consider Intel. quicksync video and plex, but only buy 12th gen cpu without e cores. |
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Posted: 8/1/2024 11:02:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: The question is does it all unravel before November or after. Luckily, we will get to find out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exponentialpi: Originally Posted By LonghornAR: Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Originally Posted By joe_sun: Lots of companies are laying off people right now, UKG, Intuit, Bungee, Disney, John Deere, FibroGen, NerdWallet, Moxion Power and now Intel. It's called Bidenomics. It's about to go ballistic. Chrysler sent out 6400 notices for buyout to peeps in the Auburn hills hq. Basically, that HQ will likely be sold to the Chinese. Hold on to your butts Tech companies lead the bull and it's going to lead the bear. Economy is being propped up by financial gymnastics and gaslighting for the election. I was betting on late September to mid- October bear market - but once again my timing is shit. |
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