I still like to hear new stuff. If there is a new band with a catchy tune being played I will buy their cd. One time the cd came mailed to me hand addressed by the bass player. The receipt inside said that I was order number 67. A big problem now days is a band will make a cd and the only song on the thing even remotely worth listening to is the one already getting airplay. The rest are just filler trash. I miss the days when an entire album was good.

Much truth in this song.

We used to have ugly people making beautiful music

Now we have beautiful people making ugly music.

The world always moves on.

I blame it all on Nickelback and related bands...

Almost like rock went through a " bubble gum" phase like pop in the late 60s and early 70s

 love seeing analog gear being well represented.

Because 90s grunge shit wrecked the most awesome decade of rock ever. Nothing will ever be as good as what was produced in the 80s.

It's funny hearing the comments about rap music being easy to produce. It's true in a sense; I've done a few shitty rap show recently, but I recently did a show with Juvenile, and he had a full live band that was awesome. The whole show was off the chain.

Apparently he just did one of those NPR Tiny Desk things, and it went so well that he decided to take it on the road.

It was probably the best live rap show I've ever done. His band was badass. Super cool guys, very chill, courteous, and professional.

Check out 'The Warning' for some modern rock n roll that is on the verge of becoming big-time.

It's 3 super talented young girls from Mexico. They have been at it since they were grade school age and have matured into serious young women who really rock.

https://youtu.be/lPLM7z-av7g?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/K8VPX-diRl4?feature=shared

This is the truth.

There was a lot of good music in the 80s, but you're delusional if you don't admit mainstream 80s was gayer than cum on a mustache.

Remember when dimebag Darrell was Diamond Darrell? Glam rock is much worse than grunge.

Thank you.

I think when you could start to buy individual songs, not just single releases or entire albums, that put a huge dent into bands' creativity and fun.

Think about all those quirky little things that bands used to sprinkle through their albums. Kind of like filler, but at least they were different.

Now, instead of having to fill an album that already has a couple hits on it with fun filler material, studio and development time has become important for EVERY song that's recorded.

That means every song goes through the more commercialized corporate filters, to a greater extent than they did back then. Which of course stifles creativity and makes the whole thing more boring.

Ever been in the supermarket and heard AC/DC, G&R, or Ozzy playing?

So do kids. They don’t want to listen to the stuff their parents and grandparents listen to. To them, the new stuff sounds just like the old stuff. It’s old people music.

They grow out of it, but it’s not enough to drive radio play.

That, and Clearchannel sucks.

There will never be any more giants of Rock N Roll again.

I'm not a big Guns N Roses fan, but they were the last big deal rock band. (And Use Your Illusion I & II don't count cause they suck.) So about 1987 is when the wheels fell off rock n roll. Maybe throw Metallica in there too, but they started out as more of a thrash band.

I know the yungins will be along to post how their fav band, like Satan's Diarrhea Rape Vomit is the greatest band ever to strap on a BC Rich Executioner super pointy 7 string, drop C tuning mega axe. But they ain't.

Degenerate hip hop is pushed on kids for a reason.

"The day the music died" was the start of the R&R decline. The British invasion hastened it along.

Good point, my father really enjoyed the music scene in Eugene Oregon in the late 90s to early 2000s.

He changed and not in a good way when he stopped going to concerts by bands that I or anyone else would ever hear of.

Yes, yes it is.

The same way degenerate 80s rock was pushed on me when I was a kid via MTV.

Shit was depraved as fuck, and I would've been better off had I not taken in a lot of that crap.

Have you payed attention to how rock bands are treated these days? Look at what happened to Greta Van Fleet. Excellent music drowned out by "real" classic rock fans claiming they're copycats.

Dirty Honey, Rival Sons, Highly Suspect, Royal Blood, Dorothy, Wolfmother.

I remember the first time I heard the Sgt. Pepper album, spent the rest of 3rd grade chasing down LSD...

Cultural entropy is a thing.

Yep.

Rock n Roll died at Woodstock '99.  It was dying already but it was murdered there.

Simple. They don’t write rock songs like that anymore.

You’ve got unintelligible rap-shit, Katy Perry-style rant songs, or the “new”/Woke country stuff.

Unfortunately, it’s what most people wanted to hear. People like to romanticize their decade of youth, but mainstream always sucked.

I'm just here to congratulate OP for correctly using "for all intents and purposes".

The youtube algorithm pushed King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard to me last night. It's been fun to discover.

This is what I’ve felt for a white
What we’re hearing now is mediocre formulas

Never has new music been so boring and predictable

If you think R&R is bad, have you listened to any modern country, pop or even Christian music lately?
Irritatingly bad

I knew there was a reason why Glenn Miller isn't popular anymore. Thanks for clearing that up.

Yep. Definitely still some great newer/middle aged bands producing great rock n roll. I saw GVF live on their first album tour, and they were incredible, it’s a shame they caught so much flak for being “copycats”.

I’ll add Queens of the Stone Age and Cage the Elephant to your list as well. Both put out great albums in the last year or so, and both were kick ass live on their latest tours.

Overall, rock n roll FM radio is the only thing that’s dead in most places. My area only has one classic rock channel that’s been playing the same 150ish song rotation of 60’s-80’s hits for the last 30 years on repeat. The local hard rock station died about a decade ago now. No station that’ll play newer rock whatsoever. But, that doesn’t mean it’s not still being produced, you just have to look for it yourself. I use Spotify premium and start a “radio” playlist off a random song I like, and it’ll show me random related stuff, which keeps things fresh.

Edit: it also goes in generations in my opinion. Hip hop kids seem to be the offspring of disco parents. I’m everything rock and roll and I’m the offspring of classic rock parents. My two little ones are being mostly exposed to my favorite rock music, and my 2.5yo has favorite songs picked out already. Every time we’re in the car I have to play her song and my song back to back. I’m gonna do my best to keep that going, like my dad and I bonded over classic rock.

Kids at work wear Nirvana shirts, don't listen to Nirvana. It's like when I was a kid and other kids wore Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath shirts but didn't listen to them. Maybe a handful did.

The best has already been done.
Why even bother??

I was just listening to them yesterday. People should also check out Crown Lands. (especially if you like Rush)

The powers that be love to drive home the same messaging (drink, fuck, date, party, flaunt your shit, cry about it, "hustle," etc.) but in different flavors.

These two just happen to be the two flavors that are commonly accepted currently.

90's music was a decade of very unique music. I don't think it'll ever be repeated. Maybe Napster, et. al were more influential than we thought? The decade had more "one-hit-wonders" than any other decade, and genre's were all over the place. "Messaging" and target audience were all over the freakin' place. The 90's were truly a fantastic decade for so many reasons, this is just one of them.

Just because it's not the "in" thing to listen to doesn't mean it's dead.

If you’ve watched any movies in the last few years, quite a few are using classic rock in the soundtrack.

But yes, it would be nice to have a station that played new artists that actually play rock music.

I’ve been to a few concerts of the old rock greats and they frequently find young bands that play music that sounds suspiciously like rock.
But I’ve never heard any of these new groups on the radio.

Chattanooga has a classic rock station that I quit listening to.
Seems like they only had about 300 songs in their online library.
If I have it on while I’m working, it will start to repeat songs after a couple of hours.
They’ve added the Metallica song Enter Sandman from Stranger Things to try to attract a younger audience.
They play it several times a day.

Im sure its way more complicated than this , or maybe not . My perspective looking back ? Nirvana appeared on the scene and everything shifted almost overnight.

The country music thread gave me a little insight.  People like Garth Brooks and BRC started moving country into the pop realm (unfortunately) and no doubt that had at least some influence on rock’s demise.

Radio sells ads to operate. To sell ads you need listeners. Since streaming and satellite exists, radio listeners are mostly poors. Poors listen to garbage music.

My theory anyway

Probably been mentioned, but I think a big problem is that the fan base and critics are full of gate keepers.

Anything "knew" is branded as "not real Rock". If a specific band tries something knew they are a "sellout".  Everyone basically just wants the same shit they heard in their youth.


All that being said, there is still a lot of great music out there.

Still plenty of guys making their own flavor.

Rock encompasses so many different sounds under the umbrella and for whatever reason every iteration has gatekeepers who insist their favorite sound is the only *real* and *good* sound and the rest are all crap.  Here we go with the divide but no conquer where each subgenre gets smaller and more niche trying to appeal to the core fans but effectively speeding up its own decline due to lack of innovation, evolution, and broad appeal.  

My favorite band is my favorite band because they bring every single genre together, constantly mix up song structure, and you never, ever know what to expect when they release something which keeps interest high and people engaged.  As such, they manage to appeal to damn near everyone in some way so they have people who were strictly into rap now listening to metal, people who were strictly into metal now listening to rap, people who are interested in good, technical instrumentation now enjoying synths and hip hop beats, people who are into synths and hip hop beats now appreciating good, technical instrumentation, etc.  

Some people see this as diluting/ruining what they see as *good* music in their preferred genre while others see it as garnering new/renewed interest and driving more people to explore further into that genre which spurs growth.  

I say let the classics stay classics and give me something new and interesting to enjoy.  Occasionally I'll try to listen to some of the music I grew up on or used to enjoy even just a few years ago and it makes my skin crawl.  It's so boring and stagnant and....flaccid.  

Our local rock station is what I used to listen to in my car all the time so it's still set to that as the default preset but I only stream now as I drive.  The SYNC in my car is going out so it will randomly drop my connection and the rock station cuts in and I get so pissed.  I can almost guarantee you that it'll be either Guns N Roses, Poison, Pink Floyd, or Red Hot Chili Peppers.  It is not labeled as a classic rock station.  But to instantly go from the high energy, all-encompassing, expertly produced sound to that old, boring, quiet, sounds-like-it-was-made-in-somebody's-garage crap makes me rage.  

Took me so long to finish typing you beat me to it.

This!

This. Electronics has taken the place of real musicianship. Whatever "talent" is easier to promote. Point in case, Tay Tay.

My son plays in multiple metal and post-hardcore bands so I'm around at lot of 18-22 year old musicians since we have a "band room" and they all seem to love the 80s-90s hard rock, grunge and metal stuff.