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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 5:55:19 PM EDT
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What China would do… Hmmm…
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China would love to have a VP whose past hobbies included grooming kids (GSA club in Mankato High School), and taking yearly trips to China. Not hard to guess the kind of dirt they have on him.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 5:57:26 PM EDT
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Ryan MacBeth looks like he likes hiding the sausage.
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He is doing great work finding the truth.  He could be a sausage for all that matters and as long as he roots out the truth and provides it I am okay with that.

He likes women based on his X feed.  He is just a nerd.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 5:58:27 PM EDT
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Has a pretty good take on it.

Basically  indict people who will never go to trial because they are in Russia for legally giving money to people to do what they already were doing.
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Didnt watch video yet.

But thats what it sounds like to me. Which is why it seems like a setup.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:00:15 PM EDT
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What are Ryan Mcbeth's creds besides former NCO intel guy?  Is that it?
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Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:02:35 PM EDT
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I don't give a shit. Fuck the left, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.

Just cherrypicking bullshit to distract from their own crimes.

More "Russian Collusion".

THEY are the enemy, their accusations mean fuck-all to me.
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This, and anyone that still believes "Russian Collusion" is retarded.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:07:28 PM EDT
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Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.
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Thats bullshit.

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:09:28 PM EDT
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Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.
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Elaborate. I listen to his podcasts pretty much every day.

He's not a fan of us financing Ukraine and thinks that we shouldn't be involved - that seems to be the low bar set by many to make this claim.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:11:10 PM EDT
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Remember: they ALWAYS accuse others of what they're actually doing.
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The government announced setting up the "Ukraine Communications Group" in June, a US government run effort to propagate Ukrainian propaganda. Then suddenly, election related smear campaigns against  US citizens , and "dossiers" start being flooded from subreddits whose feed is mostly obvious Ukraine propaganda including war footage and such.

Its way too obvious that they are accusing Republicans of what they are doing, while they are in the process of doing it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:14:43 PM EDT
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Foreign investment in media outlets is bad?

Excellent!

Now do the New York Times.

Let's take a hard look at how much Saudi, Qatari, and Chinese money is flowing into universities, think tanks, and media outlets across the country!

No?

Nobody is doing that? Nobody even wants to go near that?

Funny.

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:15:10 PM EDT
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Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.
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What are Ryan Mcbeth's creds besides former NCO intel guy?  Is that it?

Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.


Ryan McBeth and Preston Stewart have both spawned out of the Ukraine War an produce some great short form military analysis on youtube and twitter..

Its funny that GD hates on Ryan so much considering he is probably a member here. He’s a big Sig guy, has a CCW in Maryland, and I would peg him on the right side of the political spectrum.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:16:57 PM EDT
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They had to do something to down play Putin’s endorsement of Harris for President of the United States.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:19:26 PM EDT
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I have no doubt that the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians and anybody with 10 billion dollars or more is trying to influence our elections in one way or another, but yeah, this isn't surprising.  Tim pool take a kickback to sell out?...believable.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:19:52 PM EDT
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Elaborate. I listen to his podcasts pretty much every day.

He's not a fan of us financing Ukraine and thinks that we shouldn't be involved - that seems to be the low bar set by many to make this claim.
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Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.


Elaborate. I listen to his podcasts pretty much every day.

He's not a fan of us financing Ukraine and thinks that we shouldn't be involved - that seems to be the low bar set by many to make this claim.


No shit. He has said fuck Russia numerous times. Just because someone doesn't support US taxpayer money going to fund a war halfway around the world, doesn't mean they are a Russian asset.  The Pro Ukraine guys better start letting that sink in.  I've been pretty pro Ukraine but also have a limit. The constant bashing of people who are against the US taxpayer involvement only leads to more people switching sides on that issue.  You can be pro Ukraine winning, fuck Russia,  AND against sending any US equipment or money.  It's a valid fucking position to have.

This comes immediately after ANOTHER high ranking Democrat employed a Chinese spy at near the top of her circle.  And Tim Pool just sued Kamala.  Talk about suspect timing.  This is straight up Alinski rules for radicals- accusing your opposition of what you are doing.

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:22:25 PM EDT
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I have no doubt that the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians and anybody with 10 billion dollars or more is trying to influence our elections in one way or another, but yeah, this isn't surprising.  Tim pool take a kickback to sell out?...believable.
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I don't think I've seen any evidence implicating him. He's been sperging out about it on twitter though, which is hilarious. As far as I know, Lauren Chen isn't even American. A large amount of right wing politi-grifters aren't. They just spew generic talking points to secure a bag.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:24:59 PM EDT
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The indictment alleges that 90% of Tenet's revenue came from RT from October 2023 to August 2024.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:25:06 PM EDT
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Remember when you stated your community hated Trump because of the Russian collusion case?
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Remember how Paul Manafort received payments from the Kremlin to run the campaign for Russian stooge Yanukovych?
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:25:10 PM EDT
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From what I've read about so far:

Tenet Media (Lauren Chen etc.) were potentially working directly with RT / Russian sources for funding.
Lauren Chen has recently been turning aggressively N_T.  I don't know a ton about her other than she has been on some other podcasts and had one or more shows on the (formerly strongly N_T) Glen Beck's BlazeTV network.
Tenet Media licensed 3rd party content such as Culture War Podcast to redistribute on their site, allegedly funded by a benign investor but actually funded by Russian sources
The 3rd party sources like Tim Pool just knew someone was paying them to license their content, with no involvement in the creation of said content.

It sounds sketchy from several angles.  The simple explanation is that the Russian backers are trying to amplify conservative commentators who are skeptical of supporting Ukraine.  That wouldn't be a huge stretch as there are plenty of conservatives who are skeptical of supporting Ukraine for a variety of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with wanting to support Russia.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:26:54 PM EDT
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The constant bashing of people who are against the US taxpayer involvement only leads to more people switching sides on that issue.  You can be pro Ukraine winning, fuck Russia,  AND against sending any US equipment or money.  It's a valid fucking position to have.
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Elon Musk posted this on X the other day. While  I do not completely agree, especially with the cut and dried statement about women, Ukraine propaganda seems to be operating under a similar assumption. If they can just brute force enough scolding/browbeating comments, then people will be afraid to take a position against sending money, mistaking a bunch of telemarketer style comments calling them a russian asset online as a real social consensus. It doesn't really work for a lot of people though, and turns them off.

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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:27:28 PM EDT
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lol

When our state was accepting public commentary on upcoming mag bans and AWBs, I sent messages to all of my (D) reps who were all on board with arming Ukraine, had their little Ukraine flags on their profiles at the beginning of the war: Hey guys, why are you trying to disarm your own citizens if you believe that Russia is such a global threat, at the same time you are simultaneously reposting social media accounts of Ukranian citizens arming themselves with AKs and ARs to repel a Russian invasion? Doesn't it seem hypocritical that you're on one hand stating that these weapons are useless for citizens to own, while on the other hand stating that Ukranian citizens should be armed to resist Russia? Do you think that could never possibly happen here?

Either no responses from reps, or a boiler plate response thanking me for my opinion that they automatically disagree with
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:29:50 PM EDT
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Remember how Paul Manafort received payments from the Kremlin to run the campaign for Russian stooge Yanukovych?
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You mean the “Black Ledger?”  Similar to my previous statement, you may want to do some research from non-Ukrainian, not democratic controlled source


Hint, you will find a very similar issue involved.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:31:16 PM EDT
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From what I've read about so far:

Tenet Media (Lauren Chen etc.) were potentially working directly with RT / Russian sources for funding.
Lauren Chen has recently been turning aggressively N_T.  I don't know a ton about her other than she has been on some other podcasts and had one or more shows on the (formerly strongly N_T) Glen Beck's BlazeTV network.
Tenet Media licensed 3rd party content such as Culture War Podcast to redistribute on their site, allegedly funded by a benign investor but actually funded by Russian sources
The 3rd party sources like Tim Pool just knew someone was paying them to license their content, with no involvement in the creation of said content.

It sounds sketchy from several angles.  The simple explanation is that the Russian backers are trying to amplify conservative commentators who are skeptical of supporting Ukraine.  That wouldn't be a huge stretch as there are plenty of conservatives who are skeptical of supporting Ukraine for a variety of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with wanting to support Russia.
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I'm a bit surprised at how nobody seems to raise an eyebrow at someone being associated with RT nowadays.
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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:36:00 PM EDT
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I don't give a shit. Fuck the left, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.

Just cherrypicking bullshit to distract from their own crimes.

More "Russian Collusion".

THEY are the enemy, their accusations mean fuck-all to me.
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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:38:08 PM EDT
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You mean the “Black Ledger?”  Similar to my previous statement, you may want to do some research from non-Ukrainian, not democratic controlled source


Hint, you will find a very similar issue involved.
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Remember how Paul Manafort received payments from the Kremlin to run the campaign for Russian stooge Yanukovych?

You mean the “Black Ledger?”  Similar to my previous statement, you may want to do some research from non-Ukrainian, not democratic controlled source


Hint, you will find a very similar issue involved.



Like Manafort’s daughters who were texting what he was up to? LOL! You are a great example of how the Kremlin bullshitted American conservatives for their own gain.  Here learn something:

FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984)
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He is an idiot if he agrees to any interviews with those assholes. They will absolutely take one thing he said incorrectly and toss him in prison ala Gen Flynn.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:41:50 PM EDT
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I watched the video and it is weird he only talks about propaganda coming from one side like the other is completely innocent.  Sure maybe they are Russian agents, got duped, or just stupid and maybe it is all a lie but I am skeptical.  I cannot believe anything now days not at face value even from the guy who claims he fights misinformation.  I will listen just so I am aware of what one side thinks but you must stay objective and always remember everyone has an agenda.  He could be paid by the Ukrainians who are behind the whole thing, or Chyna, or the US government I do not believe anyone anymore.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:43:02 PM EDT
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He is an idiot if he agrees to any interviews with those assholes. They will absolutely take one thing he said incorrectly and toss him in prison ala Gen Flynn.
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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:45:55 PM EDT
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Like Manafort’s daughters who were texting what he was up to? LOL! You are a great example of how the Kremlin bullshitted American conservatives for their own gain.  Here learn something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw
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Remember how Paul Manafort received payments from the Kremlin to run the campaign for Russian stooge Yanukovych?

You mean the “Black Ledger?”  Similar to my previous statement, you may want to do some research from non-Ukrainian, not democratic controlled source


Hint, you will find a very similar issue involved.



Like Manafort’s daughters who were texting what he was up to? LOL! You are a great example of how the Kremlin bullshitted American conservatives for their own gain.  Here learn something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw

Hey you never answered, did you get your foreign agent registration form in?  Since you are a propagandist for a foreign nation and all

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:58:41 PM EDT
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China would love to have a VP whose past hobbies included grooming kids (GSA club in Mankato High School), and taking yearly trips to China. Not hard to guess the kind of dirt they have on him.
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China would love to have a VP whose past hobbies included grooming kids (GSA club in Mankato High School), and taking yearly trips to China. Not hard to guess the kind of dirt they have on him.


Like Scott Ritter?

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This, and anyone that still believes "Russian Collusion" is retarded.


It’s possible for the Russian collusion to be false yet this be true.

Trump did have Russia aligned folks on his staff.

The Russians didn’t  create the laptop. Hunter Biden did.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 6:59:04 PM EDT
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Yeah he has nothing to gain from this. Too much risk of a frame job.
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 Tim pool take a kickback to sell out?...believable.
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No its unbelievable.

Theres zero chance he sold out to Russia. Anyone whos followed Tim knows that.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 7:06:48 PM EDT
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Hey you never answered, did you get your foreign agent registration form in?  Since you are a propagandist for a foreign nation and all

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Remember how Paul Manafort received payments from the Kremlin to run the campaign for Russian stooge Yanukovych?

You mean the “Black Ledger?”  Similar to my previous statement, you may want to do some research from non-Ukrainian, not democratic controlled source


Hint, you will find a very similar issue involved.



Like Manafort’s daughters who were texting what he was up to? LOL! You are a great example of how the Kremlin bullshitted American conservatives for their own gain.  Here learn something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw

Hey you never answered, did you get your foreign agent registration form in?  Since you are a propagandist for a foreign nation and all



Answered what?? You have zero critical think abilities and a big mouth.
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Answered what?? You have zero critical think abilities and a big mouth.
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Wow, an Ad hominem, you must have a short memory.  You boasted on this boarded you passing along information you received from a foreign Defense Attache
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 7:16:40 PM EDT
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Yeah he has nothing to gain from this. Too much risk of a frame job.
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I’d just have not taken blood money from a hostile foreign power that is an adversary to America, but that’s just me.

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 7:16:45 PM EDT
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Russia, Russia, Russia!

Sure, Jan.
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Employed by a couple of intel think tanks and does a great deal of public speaking at .mil security seminars around the world.  He was in Australia a couple of weeks ago speaking about DIP to their DOD equivalent heads.  

He also presents to our .mil leaders.  You would do good to follow him on X and YT (his presentations are neutered on YT).

Tim Pool and Benny Johnson are implicated and it adds up.  10mil in laundered money exchanged hands from known Russian Agents through a fake sugar daddy and then to Tenet.  If you watch Tim Pool it is pretty evident he is on the Russian money train.  

I know GD was fussing about Tim Pool just last week.
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Is there evidence of this outside his latest comments of "Ukraine is the enemy...we should apologize to Russia"? I know your generally on the "no more funding side", so curious as to your take as it seems to be objective which is hard to find here.

This whole situation screams "wait for my info", but sides are already taken based on tribes. Dot.gov has cried wolf on Russia again and again, which makes anything coming from them highly sus. At the same time, perfectly believable Russia is doing this to both sides and this is true, but probably means the DOJ isn't looking or doesn't care to look into what liberal influencers may be pushing at the behest of Russia with the goal of furthering the divide in America.

Edit: I see answered in another post. Thx
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I’d just have not taken blood money from a hostile foreign power that is an adversary to America, but that’s just me.

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I would suggest you watch the rumble show I posted, he is an FBI whistleblower and gives a pretty good break down on this.
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Elaborate. I listen to his podcasts pretty much every day.

He's not a fan of us financing Ukraine and thinks that we shouldn't be involved - that seems to be the low bar set by many to make this claim.
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Watch Ryan's video.  He gives a great explanation of the entire shit show.  

He embeds Tim's vlog.
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One thing that never made sense to me in all this is why would the Russians want TRUMP. They only got froggy on Biden's watch and having a weak, lefty POTUS/CIC seems to be advantageous to them, which Trump would not be.
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Burn it all to the fucking ground.
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Ryan McBeth and Preston Stewart have both spawned out of the Ukraine War an produce some great short form military analysis on youtube and twitter..

Its funny that GD hates on Ryan so much considering he is probably a member here. He’s a big Sig guy, has a CCW in Maryland, and I would peg him on the right side of the political spectrum.
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At least I am not the only one that sees Ryan is one of the good guys.  I have no doubt he leans right but he doesn't advertise it.  If you watch his videos recorded at home you can see how he has his bookshelf set up and the items on display are not liberal at all.  

I have found no reason to distrust or discredit what Ryan has presented in the past and feel he is telling the truth on this one also.  Note, he has made mistakes and has owned up to those mistakes.
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At least I am not the only one that sees Ryan is one of the good guys.  I have no doubt he leans right but he doesn't advertise it.  If you watch his videos recorded at home you can see how he has his bookshelf set up and the items on display are not liberal at all.  

I have found no reason to distrust or discredit what Ryan has presented in the past and feel he is telling the truth on this one also.  Note, he has made mistakes and has owned up to those mistakes.
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At least I am not the only one that sees Ryan is one of the good guys.  I have no doubt he leans right but he doesn't advertise it.  If you watch his videos recorded at home you can see how he has his bookshelf set up and the items on display are not liberal at all.  

I have found no reason to distrust or discredit what Ryan has presented in the past and feel he is telling the truth on this one also.  Note, he has made mistakes and has owned up to those mistakes.


Ryan is a pretty good source for information and does a great job being unbiased.

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One thing that never made sense to me in all this is why would the Russians want TRUMP. They only got froggy on Biden's watch and having a weak, lefty POTUS/CIC seems to be advantageous to them, which Trump would not be.


There were numerous Russia aligned people on his staff. That’s pretty well documented. Yes, we knew the Russia collusion attacks were fake and made up. It was the democrats (ahem, Biden) taking million dollar donations from the mayor of Moscow and making a ton of money off Russian backed companies.

He did a fantastic job during his time except for a bunch of glaring bad decisions.


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Huh, workin' with the FBI now? That's not a great look.
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Article on this:
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/09/05/doj-indicts-russian-nationals-who-allegedly-funded-company-run-by-anti-trump-conservative-influencer-lauren-chen/

The Department of Justice unsealed an indictment Wednesday alleging that two Russian nationals working for President Vladimir Putin’s government funneled millions of dollars into a media company run by anti-Trump conservative influencer Lauren Chen.

“An indictment unsealed in the Southern District of New York charged Kostiantyn Kalashnikov and Elena Afanasyeva, both based in Moscow, with conspiracy to launder money and conspiracy to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act,” CBS News reported on Wednesday.

The two defendants worked for the Russian state-controlled outlet RT, formerly known as Russia Today, before it was disbanded in the United States following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

“Federal prosecutors said RT oversaw a series of ‘covert projects’ that included funneling $10 million through a series of shell entities to a Tennessee-based company launched in 2023 that publishes videos on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and X, formerly known as Twitter,” added CBS News.

The indictment charged that the videos published by the company contained “commentary on events and issues in the United States, such as immigration, inflation, and other topics related to domestic and foreign policy.”

“While the views expressed in the videos are not uniform, the subject matter and content of the videos are often consistent with the Government of Russia’s interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions in order to weaken U.S. opposition to core Government of Russia interests, such as its ongoing war in Ukraine,” noted the indictment.

The indictment does not name the company, only noting that it bills itself as a “network of heterodox commentators that focus on Western political and cultural issues.” Reporters identified the company as Tenet Media, which says on its website:

Tenet Media is a network of heterodox commentators that focus on Western political and cultural issues. Our goal is to support creators who question institutions that believe themselves to be above questioning. In our view, all issues du jour merit rigorous and honest discussion if one wants to come closest to the truth. For those interested in authentic coverage of the topics that matter most, Tenet Media is your home for content : fearless voices live here.

The company allegedly had business arrangements of varying depths and duration with popular influencers such as Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, and Lauren Southern as talent.

Most of those listed have voiced pro-Trump opinions, though Chen herself had turned on the former president.

The indictment clarified that at least two talents – Tim Pool being one – were “deceived” by Tenet Media’s two founders, Lauren Chen and her husband Liam Donovan. Per CBS News:

Records with the Tennessee Secretary of State’s Office show that Tenet Media incorporated on Jan. 19, 2022, the same date of incorporation mentioned in the indictment, and is headquartered in Nashville. It was founded by Liam Donovan and his wife, Lauren Chen. The founders are referred to as Founder-1 and Founder-2 in the indictment and prosecutors said they jointly run the company.

Tenet reportedly never disclosed that it had been “funded and directed” by RT, with neither the company nor its founders registering with the Justice Department as a foreign agent.

Tim Pool described himself as a “victim” in a statement on social media, charging that he had full editorial control of his show and at no point issued any talking points at Russia’s behest.

“Should these allegations prove true, I as well as the other personalities and commentators were deceived and are victims. I cannot speak for anyone else at the company as to what they do or to what they are instructed,” Pool said.

Tim Pool later deleted his statement, but commented on his show, saying that he had never produced content at anyone’s behest, and that had simply agreed to allow some of his content to be licensed.

Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson issued a similar statements. On social media, Johnson said that his lawyers had negotiated a “standard, arms length deal” that was later terminated.

“A year ago, a media startup pitched my company to provide content as an independent contractor. Our lawyers negotiated a standard, arms length deal, which was later terminated. We are disturbed by the allegations in today’s indictment, which make clear that myself and other influencers were victims in this alleged scheme. My lawyers will handle anyone who states or suggests otherwise,” said Johnson.

“These allegations clearly show that I and other commentators were the victims of this scheme. I knew absolutely nothing about any of this fraudulent activity. Period. … The DoJ has never contacted me regarding this matter and I have no intention to comment further,” said Dave Rubin.

The sums of money paid were large. CBS notes: “One unidentified influencer’s contract included a $400,000 monthly fee, a $100,000 signing bonus and an additional performance bonus.”

Former Breitbart News editor and Trump administration official Sebastian Gorka said he had been approached by Chen to produce content for Tenet, and had turned down the money after doing his “due diligence.”

“The money looked great. But I wanted to know where it was coming from,” he said in a post on X. “After pushing repeatedly she gave me names of people who had no internet footprint — like one Eduard Grigoriann — or who had zero media connections. I mean none.

“It just didn’t add up.”


The indictment specifically labels Lauren Chen as the primary liaison between the Russian nationals and the talents that were allegedly recruited. It also said that Lauren Chen knew the source of her funding. In one particular instance, the indictment said that a producer took issue with posting a pro-Russian video from commentator Tucker Carlson that “Founder-2? insisted on.

“Producer-I privately messaged Founder-2 on Discord: ‘They want me to post this’—referencing the video that Afanasyeva posted—but ‘it just feels like overt shilling.’ Founder-2 replied that Founder-I ‘thinks we should put it out there.’ Producer-I acquiesced, responding, ‘alright I’ll put it out tomorrow,'” said the indictment.


Over the past year, Lauren Chen has increasingly taken positions counter to mainstream conservative political thought, including opposition to Israel and discussion of repealing the 19th Amendment (which granted women the right to vote). In recent weeks, she had been advocating for conservatives to withhold their votes from former President Trump due to his pragmatic views on abortion.

Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, and Dave Rubin have maintained pro-Trump positions.

One common thread between the influencers named in the indictment is skepticism of U.S. policy in Ukraine, which Russia may have wished to amplify.

Speculation about other motives proliferated online on Wednesday, with Democrats suggesting that Russia had wanted to help Trump, and conservatives pointing out that Russia had supported conservatives opposed to Trump.
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For those that don't know.

A common tactic is to let the subject feel safe by stating they are a potential victim.  Then the subject spills everything because they feel safe.  Of course before all of it they get told their rights like everyone.  

BTDT,  I was a witness but saw through the questioning.  I was handed a worn and tattered pamphlet about victim/witness rights.  It was a prop and well worn, I wasn't the first to be handed that pamphlet.  

Tim needs to shut up and lawyer up.
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I’d just have not taken blood money from a hostile foreign power that is an adversary to America, but that’s just me.

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Yeah he has nothing to gain from this. Too much risk of a frame job.


I’d just have not taken blood money from a hostile foreign power that is an adversary to America, but that’s just me.



He didnt.
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