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Posted: 1/11/2018 6:01:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Since when is land nav done in boot camp? unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 11:50:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2018 1:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firemed13:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154078/15159448995982449497141300690565-420001.JPG Can I join the A4 club  CD |
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USA
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Posted: 1/14/2018 4:53:52 PM EDT
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Can anyone ID the light on this A4?
(sorry for ant image) https://i.imgur.com/VYCh0PL.jpg |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 6:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firemed13:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154078/15159448995982449497141300690565-420001.JPG Can I join the A4 club |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296: We did land nav in 1992 unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NUJbrown:
only if you give that stock a good clp bath Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NUJbrown:
Originally Posted By usmcchet9296: We did land nav in 1992 unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
I don't have the exact date off top of my head, but while Colt delivered the initial M16A4s (1996), FNMI picked up the contract not too long thereafter. I hate to keep asking questions, but I’m wondering what the correct FN logo would be for A4s from that time period. I assumed (and thought I remembered) seeing the traditional FN logo on these, but the few online photo references I’ve found all show the simplified logo like the Military Collector series. That includes this M16A2, which presumably was produced before our A4s. If anyone could confirm whether FN’s A4s always used the simplified logo, that would help me narrow down the details for my project. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Assuming you meant to quote firemed, I was thinking the same thing lol. CLP that stock brah! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By NUJbrown:
Originally Posted By usmcchet9296: We did land nav in 1992 unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 6:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiveTheseGuysAVolley:
Can anyone ID the light on this A4? (sorry for ant image) https://i.imgur.com/VYCh0PL.jpg 
That is a Trijicon TA11 on an ARMS mount. That gun used to belong to member USMC03. That picture has been stolen and used in a lot of memes. @USMC03 |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 11:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Try this. https://i.imgur.com/VYCh0PL.jpg That is a Trijicon TA11 on an ARMS mount. That gun used to belong to member USMC03. That picture has been stolen and used in a lot of memes. @USMC03 |
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Posted: 1/18/2018 2:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InternationalM: what makes it memish? looks nice..... |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 6:11:45 PM EDT
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I am absolutely loving the “musket” thread!
That’s what all the kids in my various units called the 20” rifles. They didn’t care much for them, but I always loved them. These are rifleman’s rifles! Great pics throughout, y’all! |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:37:58 PM EDT
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A note on magazine storage: a lot of the time, joes wouldn’t have a PX or anything like that on their little shitsplat FOB, so they’d improvise with what they had.
Case in point being my use of a standard MOLLE Rifleman’s Kit two mag pouch zip tied to the buttstock. Worked just as well as the store bought pouches, and had the advantage of being available. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2018 3:59:59 PM EDT
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I still remember the horror of seeing Soldiers on Liberty in Baghdad that had duct taped a magazine to their buttstock. They were required to have a mag with them, and I guess they figured they were never going to have to use it. They were probably right. I won’t even talk about the starched uniforms...
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Posted: 1/20/2018 5:06:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MikeE23666]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
I still remember the horror of seeing Soldiers on Liberty in Baghdad that had duct taped a magazine to their buttstock. They were required to have a mag with them, and I guess they figured they were never going to have to use it. They were probably right. I won’t even talk about the starched uniforms... The very last phase of this exercise was a large mock amphibious assault on some Brazilian beach that involved or guys and troops from the other countries. A few hours before this kicks off, I'm walking toward the ship's vehicle storage area and I see a group of Colombian Army troops and every single one I saw had mags in their rifles. Rumor had it their mags were full of live ammo. The Brazilian troops had FALs with mags in mag wells too. What you posted reminded me of that and it was just too ironic to not mention. Pic thread... 
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Posted: 1/20/2018 7:43:25 PM EDT
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Finally got the A4 clone put together. The lower is a Colt from the AU sale last year. The upper receiver is an older A3 that I've had for the last 15 years. The barrel is an FN picked up on the EE. I put the Aimpoint on for now, but I'm ready to buy the ACOG. From my reading here, I need TA31RCO-A4, correct?
Optics Planet has it for $1369 Optics Agent has it for $1257 Black Rifle Co has it for $1138 Any thoughts on where to buy, or specifically where not to buy. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2018 1:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
The kid from the Christmas Story movie is holding it a lot. It gets shopped in to a lot of pictures. |
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Posted: 1/25/2018 4:15:03 PM EDT
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Thoughts on the FN military collectors series A4?
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Posted: 1/25/2018 4:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
I just noticed that the photo actually made it into the Wikipedia entry for the M16A4, with the photo caption indicating that it is a USMC M16A4. You can clearly see that it doesn't have the "BURST" marking on it. I corrected the caption, and if I have time, I'll find a decent photo of an actual M16A4 to replace it. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 11:54:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2018 5:10:34 PM EDT
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I did pull the trigger on the ACOG from Optics Planet. Ended up getting it for $1300.55 shipped.
I also went with a Surefire M952V light. Jason |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 5:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macloud:
I did pull the trigger on the ACOG from Optics Planet. Ended up getting it for $1300.55 shipped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15299/IMG_20180202_171745274-441326.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15299/IMG_20180202_171720993-441327.jpg I also went with a Surefire M952V light. Jason Awesome job |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 8:23:51 PM EDT
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I just ordered a barrel assembly from Windham Weaponry to do my third A2 clone. This one will have the basic round handguards and detachable carrying handle. The lower assembly is already build and the upper assembly is complete except for the barrel assembly.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2018 10:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
I just ordered a barrel assembly from Windham Weaponry to do my third A2 clone. This one will have the basic round handguards and detachable carrying handle. The lower assembly is already build and the upper assembly is complete except for the barrel assembly. |
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Posted: 2/5/2018 11:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 85RedSled: Was it the same one you showed me to buy for my A2? I have an A4 lower from the second BCP run coming and I am researching what to buy. I am holding out with my other A2 for a 733 build. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2018 4:23:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYessir, that is the one and it is a fine kit for the A2 builder. No regrets.
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Posted: 2/6/2018 6:12:20 PM EDT
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Here's my attempt at an A4 replica
 It's an Anderson lower but if I can find the M16A4 marked Aero lower I'll switch it over. I've got an M951 on the way then I'll put a vertical grip on and then just have to find a deal on a ACOG to finish it off. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2018 4:32:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2018 5:37:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNow if they just offered either C7 or A2 uppers again...
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Posted: 2/8/2018 4:41:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jrs93accord]
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I just finished up my basic M16A4 clone build. The barrel assembly is a Windham Weaponry A2 Government Profile 20in Barrel Kit. The A2 stock from White Oak Armament. The lower is an older PSA Stealth lower I had laying around from another build. Upper receiver and BCG are FN contract. Detachable carrying handle is from a Bushmaster A3 Target that I recently did a project with.
 Attached File Attached FileHere is my M16A4 clone family.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2018 9:38:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
I just finished up my basic M16A4 clone build. The barrel assembly is a Windham Weaponry A2 Government Profile 20in Barrel Kit. The A2 stock from White Oak Armament. The lower is an older PSA Stealth lower I had laying around from another build. Upper receiver and BCG are FN contract. Detachable carrying handle is from a Bushmaster A3 Target that I recently did a project with. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M16A4_basic_5-445474.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M16A4_basic-445475.JPG Here is my M16A4 clone family. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M16A4_group-445476.JPG  Awesome collection!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2018 8:49:08 PM EDT
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Looking good there jrs! well done sir. Cheers -
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Posted: 2/9/2018 10:22:06 PM EDT
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Thanks guys.
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Posted: 2/9/2018 10:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancer007:
Here's my attempt at an A4 replica https://i.imgur.com/L8YQGkjl.jpg It's an Anderson lower but if I can find the M16A4 marked Aero lower I'll switch it over. I've got an M951 on the way then I'll put a vertical grip on and then just have to find a deal on a ACOG to finish it off. |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 11:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Who made that stock? For whatever reason, it looks far bigger than any A2 stock I've seen. Could maybe be the camera? It ain't. |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 11:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
I just finished up my basic M16A4 clone build. The barrel assembly is a Windham Weaponry A2 Government Profile 20in Barrel Kit. The A2 stock from White Oak Armament. The lower is an older PSA Stealth lower I had laying around from another build. Upper receiver and BCG are FN contract. Detachable carrying handle is from a Bushmaster A3 Target that I recently did a project with. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M16A4_basic_5-445474.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M16A4_basic-445475.JPG Because of you, I went back to pure AR15A4 condition; no RAS, no scope. Carry handle and that's all. Such a wonderful classic. Every now and then I go back and watch this gentleman's video, which I always find ironic and entertaining  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:40:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats the 'classics'. Because of you, I went back to pure AR15A4 condition; no RAS, no scope. Carry handle and that's all. Such a wonderful classic. Every now and then I go back and watch this gentleman's video, which I always find ironic and entertaining  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXblb6u-Aw
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord: There is nothing like a K.I.S.S. rifle. They work.  Attached File |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2018 8:50:08 PM EDT
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I love my A4, but my god is she a fat bitch. Never realized it until I built my new 3 gun rifle that weighs 5.5lbs.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:57:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3ACR_Scout]
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In the interests of trying to clone an FN A4 as closely as possible, can anyone enlighten me on what forgings FN may have used for their uppers and lowers? The lower may be easy - I’m guessing I can just use any quality lower that doesn’t have a forge mark, unless someone has seen FNs with the Cerro keyhole.
From all the photos I’ve seen, the Military Collector M16A4 uppers all have the FN and Brass Aluminum (square) forge marks. It’s hard to tell in most photos, but it looks like military FN M16A4s have the FN and either the Anchor Harvey broken “A” or possibly Cerro mark. It looks like an FN upper with those markings would be very hard to come by. The OP stated (many years ago!) that later production M16A4s have M4 feed ramps. Is the front of the upper receiver marked with “M4” on those rifles? My apologies if any of these questions have already come up somewhere in this thread. I’m still trying to read through it all! |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:31:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STL_Nik:
I love my A4, but my god is she a fat bitch. Never realized it until I built my new 3 gun rifle that weighs 5.5lbs. Dress/undress etc. The point is, however, that an M16 looks just fucking cool though plain as Jane - it still does (hence interest for retros etc.) I think the M16 is actually (in all of its variations) the rifle I like the most out of them all - and I do have a bunch of historic rifles from the history of this great country of ours. ETA: Added picture. 
An M16 for every season by SoloDallas, on Flickr |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
I know myself, I'll go back and forth. Dress/undress etc. The point is, however, that an M16 looks just fucking cool though plain as Jane - it still does (hence interest for retros etc.) I think the M16 is actually (in all of its variations) the rifle I like the most out of them all - and I do have a bunch of historic rifles from the history of this great country of ours. ETA: Added picture. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/26336929248_f1a1a6327b_h.jpg An M16 for every season by SoloDallas, on Flickr |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats the 'classics'. Because of you, I went back to pure AR15A4 condition; no RAS, no scope. Carry handle and that's all. Such a wonderful classic. Every now and then I go back and watch this gentleman's video, which I always find ironic and entertaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXblb6u-Aw |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
We did land nav in 1992 unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By 03RN: Since when is land nav done in boot camp? unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:46:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
In boot camp? We did it in SOI Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By 03RN: Since when is land nav done in boot camp? unless things have changed the Marines will do it forever |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 10:25:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666: I'm a less is more kind of guy. After owning two RAS, sold both I like my A4 with just the USGI handguards much better. I know there's a few of us out there. I'll tell you this: 50 in two months here. The more I see AR15s going futuristic, the more I go retro. Old fart, that must be it. A sign of the times. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 2:12:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
So I am not alone, am I, Mike? I know there's a few of us out there. I'll tell you this: 50 in two months here. The more I see AR15s going futuristic, the more I go retro. Old fart, that must be it. A sign of the times. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By MikeE23666: I'm a less is more kind of guy. After owning two RAS, sold both I like my A4 with just the USGI handguards much better. I know there's a few of us out there. I'll tell you this: 50 in two months here. The more I see AR15s going futuristic, the more I go retro. Old fart, that must be it. A sign of the times. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:04:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636]
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New AR15A4 added to the collection today.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:12:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636:
New AR15A4 added to the collection today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20180213_211346-451409.jpg |
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