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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:52:27 PM EDT
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You remind me of the type that first discovers firearms and gets so invested in his choices that he repeats stupid internet myths without having any real practical knowledge or experience. It is a gun forum. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:03:51 PM EDT
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I fired 20 rounds supported on my handy dandy super expensive tactical brick. And then 20 more laying in the grass in unsupported prone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the bigger man normally just ignores troll like shit and continues to talk about the topic at hand which was accuracy that generally comes out of AK's. But yea totally it makes sense to go and stir up a fight instead. donny ray awesome first post man. Did you fire it in the proper positions for the qual or did you do it all from the supported position? I fired 20 rounds supported on my handy dandy super expensive tactical brick. And then 20 more laying in the grass in unsupported prone. NIce I will have to look around and see if I can find some alt C targets at a gun show or something local if I have to add them to shipping they won't be worth it. I wanna go through and qual with a bunch of rifles now. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:29:45 PM EDT
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NIce I will have to look around and see if I can find some alt C targets at a gun show or something local if I have to add them to shipping they won't be worth it. I wanna go through and qual with a bunch of rifles now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the bigger man normally just ignores troll like shit and continues to talk about the topic at hand which was accuracy that generally comes out of AK's. But yea totally it makes sense to go and stir up a fight instead. donny ray awesome first post man. Did you fire it in the proper positions for the qual or did you do it all from the supported position? I fired 20 rounds supported on my handy dandy super expensive tactical brick. And then 20 more laying in the grass in unsupported prone. NIce I will have to look around and see if I can find some alt C targets at a gun show or something local if I have to add them to shipping they won't be worth it. I wanna go through and qual with a bunch of rifles now. LOL....I found those targets under the back seat of my truck about a week after I was a range safety for qualification. I forgot they were even there. This was quite a few years back and I just tossed them in my shed and completely forgot I had them until last year. I'm like you though. I just get kinda tired after a while listening to people talk about how you can't hit anything with an AK. If you actually want to, you can. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:45:55 PM EDT
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LOL you again. So what you're saying is you can't shoot an AK worth a shit right? 
I mean what is wrong with tangent sites, they have been used for centuries and are easy to use? Safety is an easy fix if that bothers you. The magazine is superior to an AR magazine which is one of its weaknesses (if we are talking standard issue). Why can't you change out an AK mag fast? It is really easy. I know that is super important to carbine class heros. Accurate enough as has been demonstrated repeatedly. Why can't you hit anything with an AK? Who cares, it does not interfere with anything for most shooters. There are hundreds of scopes and mounting solutions for an AK. Do you even forum bro? You remind me of the type that first discovers firearms and gets so invested in his choices that he repeats stupid internet myths without having any real practical knowledge or experience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ak's are kind of a POS. I just shoot my AR now. AK's are fine and fun for close range spray fire though. mmmkaaayyy.... +1...POS? ya whatever....its a better combat rifle design than the AR. Oh, really? Is it better because the AK design: Safety sucks. No bolt hold open. Terrible sights. Slow mag release & insertion. Heavy. Inaccurate. Reciprocating charging handle. Limited optics mount solutions. LOL you again. So what you're saying is you can't shoot an AK worth a shit right?
I mean what is wrong with tangent sites, they have been used for centuries and are easy to use? Safety is an easy fix if that bothers you. The magazine is superior to an AR magazine which is one of its weaknesses (if we are talking standard issue). Why can't you change out an AK mag fast? It is really easy. I know that is super important to carbine class heros. Accurate enough as has been demonstrated repeatedly. Why can't you hit anything with an AK? Who cares, it does not interfere with anything for most shooters. There are hundreds of scopes and mounting solutions for an AK. Do you even forum bro? You remind me of the type that first discovers firearms and gets so invested in his choices that he repeats stupid internet myths without having any real practical knowledge or experience. You're legendary. And so wrong about everything you write. I've been around awhile, kid. I have plenty of experience with a wide variety of firearms. More than yourself, I'm very sure. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:10:11 PM EDT
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Let's get back on topic, as I don't want to ban/block anyone tonight.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:49:34 PM EDT
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I've been around awhile, kid. I have plenty of experience with a wide variety of firearms. More than yourself, I'm very sure. Then by all means act like it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:55:57 PM EDT
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Fin- Now I know why those targets are called, "Dirty Bird!" I've never seen them in use.
Farmer Ted- What kind of ammo in the 104? Donny Ray- Welcome to the forum. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:57:41 PM EDT
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So anyways... here's my AK-74 (the ones used in that 1 MOA Challenge) with an ACOG in an RS mount. Really makes the whole accuracy thing a cinch.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:01:24 PM EDT
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Can you tell me more on your thoughts with the RS mount and acog. Seems like eye relief must be a bitch and how does it feel in terms of getting your head at the right height?
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:06:10 PM EDT
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Can you tell me more on your thoughts with the RS mount and acog. Seems like eye relief must be a bitch and how does it feel in terms of getting your head at the right height? Eye relief isn't an issue when you use the full length lower. As it sits now the eye relief is perfect when I get good and tight against the stock. You don't get a hardcore competition cheek weld, but it's nowhere near as bad as most Russian optics. Your cheek will be on the stock, just not tight against it. I love it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:19:55 PM EDT
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Fin- Now I know why those targets are called, "Dirty Bird!" I've never seen them in use. Farmer Ted- What kind of ammo in the 104? Donny Ray- Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the welcome. You're in NV? I retired in Kansas but was originally born and raised in Vegas. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:28:21 PM EDT
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So anyways... here's my AK-74 (the ones used in that 1 MOA Challenge) with an ACOG in an RS mount. Really makes the whole accuracy thing a cinch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/AEnemaBay/Avtomat%20Kalashnikova/Bulgaria/IMG_5889Large_zpsc69556bd.jpg That's really nice man! I have an Aimpoint instead of an ACOG, but I really like the RS Regulate mounts too. +1 |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:46:42 PM EDT
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Farmer Ted- What kind of ammo in the 104 Silver Bear. I'm down to my last 750 rounds of it.  Plenty of surplus though, should shoot about the same.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:58:00 PM EDT
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Eye relief isn't an issue when you use the full length lower. As it sits now the eye relief is perfect when I get good and tight against the stock. You don't get a hardcore competition cheek weld, but it's nowhere near as bad as most Russian optics. Your cheek will be on the stock, just not tight against it. I love it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you tell me more on your thoughts with the RS mount and acog. Seems like eye relief must be a bitch and how does it feel in terms of getting your head at the right height? Eye relief isn't an issue when you use the full length lower. As it sits now the eye relief is perfect when I get good and tight against the stock. You don't get a hardcore competition cheek weld, but it's nowhere near as bad as most Russian optics. Your cheek will be on the stock, just not tight against it. I love it. AEnemaBay, What was your benchrest setup to get those awesome groups...and with 7N6 and irons? I'm still amazed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 9:16:19 PM EDT
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So anyways... here's my AK-74 (the ones used in that 1 MOA Challenge) with an ACOG in an RS mount. Really makes the whole accuracy thing a cinch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/AEnemaBay/Avtomat%20Kalashnikova/Bulgaria/IMG_5889Large_zpsc69556bd.jpg It's amazing how much better an average shooter like me gets when I use an ACOG. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 6:27:40 AM EDT
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It's amazing how much better an average shooter like me gets when I use an ACOG. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So anyways... here's my AK-74 (the ones used in that 1 MOA Challenge) with an ACOG in an RS mount. Really makes the whole accuracy thing a cinch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/AEnemaBay/Avtomat%20Kalashnikova/Bulgaria/IMG_5889Large_zpsc69556bd.jpg It's amazing how much better an average shooter like me gets when I use an ACOG. I can attest to this. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 9:57:41 AM EDT
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my SBR can hit man sized steel at 250 all day long with irons.
The only benching I usually do is just to check the site in of a rifle. The rest is usually steel targets at 250 and 500. If it goes ding, I hit it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:19:07 AM EDT
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EVR is that you?
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:24:18 AM EDT
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Oh, really? Is it better because the AK design: Safety sucks. No bolt hold open. Terrible sights. Slow mag release & insertion. Heavy. Inaccurate. Reciprocating charging handle. Limited optics mount solutions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ak's are kind of a POS. I just shoot my AR now. AK's are fine and fun for close range spray fire though. mmmkaaayyy.... +1...POS? ya whatever....its a better combat rifle design than the AR. Oh, really? Is it better because the AK design: Safety sucks. No bolt hold open. Terrible sights. Slow mag release & insertion. Heavy. Inaccurate. Reciprocating charging handle. Limited optics mount solutions. holy shit dude I think you win ultimate douche bag award for that statement. and you must be from the internet. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:48:43 AM EDT
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Mine (yugo, 7.62x39) is a rock solid 5MOA rifle all day long with cheap ammo and me pulling the trigger.
Perhaps better with an optic. My sig556r, somewhat better. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 11:18:32 AM EDT
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holy shit dude I think you win ultimate douche bag award for that statement. and you must be from the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ak's are kind of a POS. I just shoot my AR now. AK's are fine and fun for close range spray fire though. mmmkaaayyy.... +1...POS? ya whatever....its a better combat rifle design than the AR. Oh, really? Is it better because the AK design: Safety sucks. No bolt hold open. Terrible sights. Slow mag release & insertion. Heavy. Inaccurate. Reciprocating charging handle. Limited optics mount solutions. holy shit dude I think you win ultimate douche bag award for that statement. and you must be from the internet. You just added two worthless comments after a staff member told folks to stay on topic...On top of it you made a 'personal attack' by calling him the ultimate douche bag. Do you not like the forum? If that was the case you don't have to log in. The statements like above where the shooter was talking about hitting steal at 250-300 I guess that kind of depends on the steel. I wouldn't consider hitting a man size Im guessing that means at least 18 inches across ringing in at somewhere inside of 6moa very accurate it is pretty spot on for what the rifles are capable mixed with a shooter and actual range elements like wind and actually relying on the AK style iron sights at that kind of range. That is not by any means an accurate rifle but it is a worthy use for a combat rifle that you don't expect to take game with take any shots that would have consequence of a miss. I don't think many AR's can be called all that accurate to be fair. Depends on the AMMO and barrel mix of course but I would throw a wild and random guess that a very fewl ARs are capable of shooting 1.25 moa accuracy from a machine rest over 25-50 rounds. This would mostly depend on the AMMO used and if it isn't something you can get in bulk then there isn't much point talking about it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:39:56 PM EDT
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So anyways... here's my AK-74 (the ones used in that 1 MOA Challenge) with an ACOG in an RS mount. Really makes the whole accuracy thing a cinch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/AEnemaBay/Avtomat%20Kalashnikova/Bulgaria/IMG_5889Large_zpsc69556bd.jpg  I just found my next project...awesome setup AEnemaBay!
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:42:05 PM EDT
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Going to close this thread, personal attacks will not be tolerated in this forum.
Action has been taken on this matter.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:44:51 PM EDT
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