Not at all. You are are 100% right PSA builds high quality AK's Im just being nitpicky.

So start another thread on 104s from psa and quit trashing this thread.

Akfiles guy for sure

Their, they're, there - let's simmer down.

Some beautiful krinks in this thread. Wonder how long before they will run out of the receiver flats with the wandering selector markings. They're like a mis-stamped coin, it adds character.

Oh you its ok for you and others to mention 104 and even post pics of them as well as mention AR Upper PSA products as reliable in this thread but its not ok for me to mention & prove a PSA AK failures in this thread...Got it.

You bet I am. Been on there and others for a while. A lot of assholes like myself on there but at least we are honest and don't brush failures under the rug like it never happened. Its all good though let's bury the hatchet and move on. Like I said you guys are right PSA builds quality AK's and no gun is perfect. All of those 100s and 100's of PSA AK failures on the files is irrelevant. They build solid AK's. Im proud to own mine. Was just really disappointed in it and I think rightfully so. Ill lower my standard a bit and except it is what it is.

We all were at some point. Back in the day the marketplace was the bomb-diddly for AK parts.

Now not so much, and the rest of it turned me into a rager. Logged off more than a year ago and never logged back on, and don't miss it a bit. Feeling much better these days.

Little Bitch.

Not me. And I don’t say that out of malice. It just didn’t offer much when theakforum was in full swing. By the time surplus and imports were dying, it just wasn’t a very interesting conversation.

I actually picked up these handguards pretty cheap last week from the files, and sling from that forum too. Got rid of 4 of these braces on there a couple weeks ago.  Some cool stuff pops up on there. FRT with the ALG for the win!

Same here. Marketplace was great.
Haven't posted over there in many years. Too much drama and bs over there.
Like this bunch much better

Lol, I was checking my old hard-drive earlier and I still have your address from when I bought or sold something to you, can't remember what it was. Sorry about that, I usually delete addresses/names after the transaction for security reasons, and I did so after I found it, but was kinda cool seeing it and trying to remember what it was that changed hands.

No problem,it's cool. I have moved since then. I do remember buying some things from you when I was heavily into AKs.
Probably some ammo or parts knowing me.

I remember the heady days of AK-47.Net and Campy Bob

If you come across another one of those braces, I would definitely buy it

More are being made actually.

I don't believe for one fucking second that he had FOUR of those braces.  We will soon discover that he saw one listed and it sold, IF THAT.

show us the link or get out of here with that BS

F*Ck off...

Ummm link?

74u handguards from Warsaw Wood. Not sure they offer it anymore.

Same company? Give me a link, I have some money to burn

KD GunWerx ?

Easy guys.....let's please not get this thread locked and I don't want to see anybody get a timeout over differing opinions. Mods have eased up a bit in this section, let's not give them a reason to drop a hammer.

What mods did you have to do to make it fit the PSA trunion? Yours looks alot like the one they have on their site

Sure does

https://www.kdgunwerx.com/product-page/kusa-kp-9-folding-triangle-brace

"Product could not be found"  - must've ceased production.

They are supposedly in pre production.......coming back out soon as a limited run. They won't fit the PSA Krink without modifications, but they don't tell what they are......at least that's what they said when I looked at it yesterday. That website is weird

Link worked when I posted it. Website looks very suspicious.  Buyer beware

Very scammy looking for sure

Now it works again............

Please save the memes for GD, thanks. dryflash3

wix.com website builder, lol. Somebody's doing it themselves that's not really familiar with how things work. Gawdawful amount of code to produce almost no content. It doesn't look so much scammy as it does clueless.

Added a Tango Down grip. Much better feel than the popsicle stick grip

I've considered doing the same to mine........i hear they are much better grips

Yes much better grip angle. Also has compartment to store stuff

https://tangodown.com/bg-ak-battlegrip/

God kills a kitten every time a 3d-printed 5.56 follower gets put in a 5.45 magazine.

Stick with 5.56 magazines - AC-U, polymer Zastava, WBP, FB Radom, Arsenal, PSA, the Bulgarians from GMG.  Plenty of choices in the market to avoid that voodoo.

I have some 556 followers in an East German Bakelite mag (I picked about a dozen up when they were like  $12/4pk in pouch from Century back in the day.) and i seem to get good reliability with it out of my Polish Mini-Beryl converted to tradiational Krink.

If they worked I'd kill about 6 more kittens

The two I converted work great.  But I have never tried steel case, only brass.  Not sure that would make a difference though.

I think this a AKFiles Gunsmithing Forum hallucination part of a belief system there that the Cult members there must recite from the few there that are acting like authorities on the AK subject.

You know PSA AKs explode, 556 followers in AK74 mags, 5.45 is actually a poisoned bullet - that kind of AKFiles religion.  Lots of people regurgitate internet stupidity vs real experiences.

 I'm not from the AKFiles.  My opinion is based on being part of the AK community since 2003 and buying 5.56 AKs for 20 years.

The followers trick started off with Century trying to resolve limited availability of 5.56 magazines for their imported Romanian SAR-3, since that's about coincident with bakelites being extremely cheap and common (Century would paint a black strip around the bottom of the ones they put 5.56 followers in) and the proper Weiger-style mags being rare.  (The SAR-3 being an evolution of an East German prototype that never went into production before the Wall fell.)  Maybe the Pod followers have different geometry, but the Century ones sucked.  Conflated with case taper of 5.45 and 5.56 leading towards different magazine curvatures being optimal for the cartridges.  It was a bad solution then and led to people labeling the guns themselves as finicky and unreliable despite using a garbage magazine.  It didn't help that Century's 922R compliance hammer had bad geometry as well, leading to often inconsistent firing pin impacts and damage to the bolt stem.

Arsenal came along a few years later with their 5.56 guns (with their proprietary yet reliable magazine design) and magazine availability for them was initially good and affordable.  At the time, most people still turned their noses up at 5.56 AKs since they weren't the "classic" commie calibers.  That lasted up until about 2008, when Obama got elected and Arsenal started to play stupid games with their pricing and what were $18 magazines became $25 then $35 then $50 magazines.  It sucked because they were the gold standard in 5.56 AK mags.  But whatever, the other ammo was cheaper and more available so no one really cared.

Now with Russian ammo being cut off, a lot of people looking to dabble in AKs are drawn to 5.56 ones.  But $50 magazines suck and there's still some availability of surplus 5.45 magazines on the market, so the follower trick comes back.  Maybe it was a decent idea in this time period.  I invested in Arsenal and had a decent stash of their magazines before they got dollar crazed so I stuck with an OEM design.  Century brought in a bunch of surplus Serbian M85/M90 mags in this period as well, but there were probably more mags than Yugo 5.56 AKs to use them in.

That situation essentially lasted until a few years ago when the overseas markets finally started responding to the demand.  Not sure if it was entirely US commercial market or some global military demand since NATO ammo-compatible AKs made sense for many FSU nations but it doesn't really matter.  All those options exist now that are properly designed for the Bulgarian/Russian/Polish/Serbian magazine well, proper curvature to support the stack from the case taper, and proper feed lip geometry to position the case for the bolt to pick up on cycling.  Maybe the Pod followers can approximate that.  But when properly designed options exist from $11 or so, I would say it isn't the best idea to invest in that.  (I gave Magpul a rash of crap for their inability to timely release new products or seemingly innovate anymore, but they do get magazine geometry down to a science.  Compare the designs of their various 5.56 magazines between AR, AUG, G36, etc and they are consistent.  Then compare to their 5.45 AK mag.  Note how different they are because they need to be.  Anyone that's played with 5.45 ARs has experienced this as well, 5.45 does not feed very well in 5.56 mags.)

I would say purchasing a handful to convert because it looks cool is fine, God knows I have some sketchy yet cool-looking magazines. Or maybe you stacked deep when ORF blew out the surplus 5.45 mags so it doesn't really cost anything to try it out.  Someone new coming into the community might think it's a great approach without knowing it stands a good chance of requiring tweaking or flat not working at all.  So I try to be cheeky and say "God kills a kitten" and suggest other options because I've seen several cycles of people condemning 5.56 AKs as crap when dodgy magazines are used.  I'm not trying to be an authority - I'm trying to share twenty years of observations that the follower route is likely to be disappointing and frustrating when here in 2024 we have a variety of excellent purpose-designed magazines available.

One caveat/addition on the Arsenal mag pricing. It took them a bit to corner the market (Chief Thunder, etc.),  but ultimately they still had many years of quasi-surplus supply (Gen 1) before they were forced to move to purchasing new production from the factory (Gen 2). Once we started to see bespoke (non military) colors (plum, green), we were fully into higher cost US market specific products.

I did it solely for the Bakelite looks cool in a 5.56 Krink So I can impress others.  But it did happen to work well enough.

At the moment I don't think 5.45 mags are cheaper or easier to get than 5.56 so why bother mixing it up.  I have mostly Beryl 5.56 mags = no complaints.  I think I also have some Bulgarian 5.56 mags.  Ironically I do have a bunch of those ORF surplus 5.45 mags for guns in that flavor.  You remember the good ol days.

"Chief Thunder" OMG -

I wonder what he has done since he had a stint in Jail for gun charges.

It’s been long enough. I want to hear him tell the story of that “Wild West” era.

I have lamented we need a new Chief Thunder but I’d settle for the old one getting back into business.

Unfortunately, there is no business to be had. That was a short lived, once in a lifetime opportunity.

Thats what I was going for. I have plenty of proper 5.56 mags but was hoping at least one bakelite and plum would work well for my krink just for funzies. Considering my stack of 5.45 mags go unused at this point.