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Posted: 2/11/2015 9:29:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thornejc:
How do you draw whatever you CC? I don't have either... i'm using the crye gun clip (which isn't the fastest back in... not difficult but not "fast" so i'll prob lanyard it) so this argument doesn't apply to anything i am running but I'm just saying... if you can draw your CC, you should be able do draw without a drop. Its not that hard... you are supposed to draw up your body anyways. I don't think my arms are super stubby  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By Joehs:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
What are you all finding as the best option for using your pistol holsters between these two RTI mounts? http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6387-FOURHUNDRED_zps0b4f8dd3.jpg Or, http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6404-400_zpsdbe0a0a6.jpg I am not using the drop on my belt. I have a plate carrier as well, but it is a minimalist and has no cumberbund, so my draw isn't hindered by anything to my sides. Comes straight up at the 3 o'clock position and clears everything just fine. If you have anything to the side of your carrier, you may want to look into a drop. I would say it depends more on having short stubby arms relative to torso or proper length arms. How do you draw whatever you CC? I don't have either... i'm using the crye gun clip (which isn't the fastest back in... not difficult but not "fast" so i'll prob lanyard it) so this argument doesn't apply to anything i am running but I'm just saying... if you can draw your CC, you should be able do draw without a drop. Its not that hard... you are supposed to draw up your body anyways. I don't think my arms are super stubby It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this 
Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. 
Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 10:13:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By Joehs:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
What are you all finding as the best option for using your pistol holsters between these two RTI mounts? http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6387-FOURHUNDRED_zps0b4f8dd3.jpg Or, http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6404-400_zpsdbe0a0a6.jpg I am not using the drop on my belt. I have a plate carrier as well, but it is a minimalist and has no cumberbund, so my draw isn't hindered by anything to my sides. Comes straight up at the 3 o'clock position and clears everything just fine. If you have anything to the side of your carrier, you may want to look into a drop. I would say it depends more on having short stubby arms relative to torso or proper length arms. How do you draw whatever you CC? I don't have either... i'm using the crye gun clip (which isn't the fastest back in... not difficult but not "fast" so i'll prob lanyard it) so this argument doesn't apply to anything i am running but I'm just saying... if you can draw your CC, you should be able do draw without a drop. Its not that hard... you are supposed to draw up your body anyways. I don't think my arms are super stubby It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. Gotcha, holster 4DAIVIPAI2K5 made for me should be here today. If the regular RTI mount feels weird to me, I may buy the lower belt drop one. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 10:57:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By Joehs:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
What are you all finding as the best option for using your pistol holsters between these two RTI mounts? http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6387-FOURHUNDRED_zps0b4f8dd3.jpg Or, http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6404-400_zpsdbe0a0a6.jpg I am not using the drop on my belt. I have a plate carrier as well, but it is a minimalist and has no cumberbund, so my draw isn't hindered by anything to my sides. Comes straight up at the 3 o'clock position and clears everything just fine. If you have anything to the side of your carrier, you may want to look into a drop. I would say it depends more on having short stubby arms relative to torso or proper length arms. How do you draw whatever you CC? I don't have either... i'm using the crye gun clip (which isn't the fastest back in... not difficult but not "fast" so i'll prob lanyard it) so this argument doesn't apply to anything i am running but I'm just saying... if you can draw your CC, you should be able do draw without a drop. Its not that hard... you are supposed to draw up your body anyways. I don't think my arms are super stubby It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. Makes sense... like i said, mine is "twist out" so it doesn't really apply to me but I was just wondering how it was different. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 7:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Gotcha, holster 4DAIVIPAI2K5 made for me should be here today. If the regular RTI mount feels weird to me, I may buy the lower belt drop one. I have the regular RTI mount and wish I would have gone with the drop version for reasons already stated. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 8:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
I have the regular RTI mount and wish I would have gone with the drop version for reasons already stated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Gotcha, holster 4DAIVIPAI2K5 made for me should be here today. If the regular RTI mount feels weird to me, I may buy the lower belt drop one. I have the regular RTI mount and wish I would have gone with the drop version for reasons already stated. Holster didn't show up today. USPS ftl. Will find out tomorrow I guess. |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 1:15:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
I have the regular RTI mount and wish I would have gone with the drop version for reasons already stated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Gotcha, holster 4DAIVIPAI2K5 made for me should be here today. If the regular RTI mount feels weird to me, I may buy the lower belt drop one. I have the regular RTI mount and wish I would have gone with the drop version for reasons already stated. I have the regular RTI mount and haven't felt the need yet for the drop version. My plate carrier (SKD PIG) isn't setup with side plates (I have them, but have an elastic cummerbund now), so no issues drawing currently. |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 10:45:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By Joehs:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
What are you all finding as the best option for using your pistol holsters between these two RTI mounts? http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6387-FOURHUNDRED_zps0b4f8dd3.jpg Or, http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/BrOdBaNd_2006/DSCN6404-400_zpsdbe0a0a6.jpg I am not using the drop on my belt. I have a plate carrier as well, but it is a minimalist and has no cumberbund, so my draw isn't hindered by anything to my sides. Comes straight up at the 3 o'clock position and clears everything just fine. If you have anything to the side of your carrier, you may want to look into a drop. I would say it depends more on having short stubby arms relative to torso or proper length arms. How do you draw whatever you CC? I don't have either... i'm using the crye gun clip (which isn't the fastest back in... not difficult but not "fast" so i'll prob lanyard it) so this argument doesn't apply to anything i am running but I'm just saying... if you can draw your CC, you should be able do draw without a drop. Its not that hard... you are supposed to draw up your body anyways. I don't think my arms are super stubby It's not about it being hard, it's about elimination unnecessary body contortion and movement to get a gun on target faster. Just because you can do this http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/06/GA_Draw_061511.jpg Doesn't make it smoother, faster, and put less strain on your body than this. http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4820/lun6.jpg Not to mention doing the CC/high belt draw with armor and pack are offsetting most of your load onto your shoulder that you are drawing, aiming and shooting with. You make a good point, Sir! |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 12:57:53 PM EDT
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Just put this budget belt together.
I was trying to do it on the cheap, so I ended up with a variety of colors and ended up painting it myself. The Taco and TT mag pouch are the only things I didn't paint. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 1:01:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dalynchmob:
Just put this budget belt together. http://i58.tinypic.com/1zmf9mu.jpg I was trying to do it on the cheap, so I ended up with a variety of colors and ended up painting it myself. The Taco and TT mag pouch are the only things I didn't paint. Nice. Old Woodland gear with a light coat of flat tan spray from like a foot away is indistinguishable from MC. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 11:28:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2015 12:21:16 AM EDT
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Who made that holster?
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Posted: 2/14/2015 2:58:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: protus]
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my cheap but functional one.
i may get rid of the tear away med pouch..it kinda crammed things up.. and the drop leg,,is on my short list to change out. cpf90 hip belt. left to right- double mag pouch-pistol,hsgi ummp ,saw pouch EE kit,,dump etc,tearaway ifak,g81 knife,nade pouch TT iirc- 1x4 inch izzy and extra CAT,eagle drop-set to ride high..(got it cheap years ago)  with out flash  it aint hsld but works,  |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 3:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shootnhunt68: Who made that holster? I got it made local by Sgt Moose Custom Holsters. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 4:03:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
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Thought I would throw mine in here. The breacher/demo pouch will come off for my next deployment as I won't need it and will just be replaced with a shock cord TQ.
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:31:59 PM EDT
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Those of you with the Voland Gearworks Micro, If you arent using a liner belt, could you please post pictures of your setup?
I have a dsg competition belt, but hate how the overlap interferes with my 1-3o clock pistol holster. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2015 12:59:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sidewinder11]
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Here's my first shot at a war belt. Haven't had a chance to run it yet
HSGI Sure Grip First Spear Assaulters Gun Belt Multicam G-Code Holter with Duty Belt-Slide HSGI bleeder/Blowout Tactical Tailor Fight Light Multipurpose Pouch Tactical Tailor Filght Light Dump Pouch HSGI Pistol Tacos x 2 HSGI Rifle Tacos x 2 Gen 4 Glock 17 
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Posted: 2/17/2015 1:32:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
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Finally got my belt all setup.
HSGI Riggers Belt HSGI Sure Grip 1x Pistol Taco 2x Double Decker Taco AAC Suppressor Pouch Condor Dump Pouch(BIG fan, I am not usually one for cheaper soft goods but this thing rocks!) Deep Concealment G17/TLR1 Holster(Big fan as well, found them on eBay and its sick! It uses Malice Clips) 2x California Competition Caddies(for when I run 3 gun) I am really digging this setup! Very comfortable for all day use. I had it on for about 7 hours at the range last week in one day and it never moved or got annoying. I shoot prone a ton and as long as the shot shell caddies are not on it is very comfortable and the tacos are a huge plus because you can fit AICS mags in them! 3 Gun 
Precision Rifle/Pistol 
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Posted: 2/17/2015 2:44:03 PM EDT
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You run all your mags backwards?
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Posted: 2/17/2015 3:41:22 PM EDT
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backwards is bestwards
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nikfleisch:
You run all your mags backwards? 
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Posted: 2/17/2015 4:17:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nikfleisch:
You run all your mags backwards? Nah. Don't know about you but when my arms are pointed down my thumbs are in front of my fingers so that's how I pull my mags from my belt. I've tried them the other way and I fumble mags when you have to flip them. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 6:58:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deere_John_16]
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Picked up my first battle belt over the weekend. Found it used on a local gun forum and from the content, seems like it is a good starter rig. Main use is for the "bump in the night" and training classes. I don't do 3 gun or anything else at this point, and I'm not LEO / MIL so don't need this for any sort of work rig.
Belt include 2 Glock mag pouches, admin punch (likely be used for med kit), dump pouch, Glock Holster (w/o light) and a single pouch for a light / knife / multitool. Currently I run a small chest rig. It includes 4 AR mags (could put in 8, but it is VERY heavy with 8 and difficult to keep it under control), 4 glock mags, and an admin pouch (small first aid kit, knife, and flashlight). 
(edited for a better picture). A few things I'm considering and would like feedback: 1) Keep belt essentially as is but swap holster for one that accommodates a light. I'm using a Raven Phantom for my G19 today, so may order a 2nd one for this belt, and keep the Raven as is for when I OC/CC in public. Any other good G19+TLR1 holsters out there you guys are running on the belt? 2) Add a single AR mag carrier, and move the med kit around to the other side of the dump pouch. This would accommodate the reload for my "bump in the night" gun with is my 300BLK SBR. Today I don't worry much about a reload since if I've exhausted 30 rounds, either the threat is down, or I'm in a bigger world of shit and need to reconsider my situation significantly. Still would be nice to have a reload on me if I have a mag failure or other issue. 3) Keep my chest rig for carbine classes where I need more reloads and slim it down to only the AR mags and perhaps a small admin pouch for cell phone, morale patches, etc. Drop the pistol mags from the chest rig (not sure I'll need 6 pistol mags) and maybe add 2 to the belt (4 on the belt). 4) Add a couple D-rings for Gloves / Ear Pro, although I've never had a case where I was in a class and wished I had a cool place to hang them. Not going to be using either in the "bump in the night" scenario. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 1:50:19 AM EDT
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Stupid question, but I see quite a variety of holster attachments on the belts.
I have a comp tac intl holster for my m&p that I would prefer to use. Is there a combination of belts and a way to attach it you all would reccomend? I like the hsgi style the best, but dropping 400 bucks for an entire set up is a bit out of the price range right now. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 3:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Nah. Don't know about you but when my arms are pointed down my thumbs are in front of my fingers so that's how I pull my mags from my belt. I've tried them the other way and I fumble mags when you have to flip them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By nikfleisch:
You run all your mags backwards? Nah. Don't know about you but when my arms are pointed down my thumbs are in front of my fingers so that's how I pull my mags from my belt. I've tried them the other way and I fumble mags when you have to flip them. Same here. I get crap at the range all time time about my mags being "backwards" but have been thumb indexing for 20 plus years. Old school Army Infantry training where I was taught not to chicken wing your elbows and it stuck. Different strokes for different folks... Do whatever works for you |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 6:17:56 AM EDT
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Just shop around. You can build a quality belt for 250 or so. That's what I have in mine. As far as your holster you can get kydex holsters for as little as 45 bucks. If they only have belt loops you can buy malice clips and drill holes in them and run the hardware your old loops used to secure them to the clips.
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:30:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SBCZILLA]
[#25]
$75 for whatever belt
$100 for 2 DD Tacos $100 for a COMPLETE kydex setup $50 for dump pouch, and whatever miscellaneous. $325ish. . Could shave some $ on a real basic belt, acheaper holster, and basic kydex mag holders. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 9:26:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SBCZILLA:
$75 for whatever belt $100 for 2 DD Tacos $100 for a COMPLETE kydex setup $50 for dump pouch, and whatever miscellaneous. $325ish. . Could shave some $ on a real basic belt, acheaper holster, and basic kydex mag holders. Belts can be way cheap and functional. Problem is...it wont be all matching cool daddy shit that looks cool in pictures online. Guess its where your priorities are and what your gonna do with it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 10:17:16 AM EDT
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My belt I posted above was put together on the cheap, using any deals I could find. It's not top of line, but it gets the job done.
Eagle Industries belt - $8 Taco double decker - $40 TT single mag pouch - $12 Safariland 6377 + molle adaptor - $48 IFAK - I had lying around, its just a ACU GP/Canteen pouch (can be had for $10, maybe cheaper on clearance somewhere) ~$120 + $20 S/H = $140 for a basic battle belt set up. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 12:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By protus:
Belts can be way cheap and functional. Problem is...it wont be all matching cool daddy shit that looks cool in pictures online. Guess its where your priorities are and what your gonna do with it. Mines just a mix of shit right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By protus:
Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
$75 for whatever belt $100 for 2 DD Tacos $100 for a COMPLETE kydex setup $50 for dump pouch, and whatever miscellaneous. $325ish. . Could shave some $ on a real basic belt, acheaper holster, and basic kydex mag holders. Belts can be way cheap and functional. Problem is...it wont be all matching cool daddy shit that looks cool in pictures online. Guess its where your priorities are and what your gonna do with it. Mines just a mix of shit right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile TT Coyote brown duty belt TT Coyote brown duty belt pad TT ACU Modular large leg rig TT ACU Modular light holster on said leg rig Some ACU dump pouch my brother gave me 2 First Spear single 1911 mag pouches in multicam It's a mix match of colors, yes, but it was all on cheap sales. I use it for when I'm out hunting when we're hiking up and down mountains. The it's a bit of a drive from camp ground to hunting ground, and my brother and I found that having the side-arm holstered on our hip was uncomfortable, hence the leg rig. Dump pouch is just for storage |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 12:53:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#29]
I was saying you can run a setup with 99% top of the line materials for under 300 as opposed to 400 like he stated. If you shop around and wait on good deals like I did. Yes if you pay retail for a fully done up war belt it is going to be pricey but hey, same goes for plate carriers. 2 cheap ass pieces of AR500 and some chain will technically do the same job as a PIG w SAPI plates for a 1/10 of the cost
Its really about what you want your belt for. Of course if you want the perfect setup its gonna be pricey... For about 2 years I ran... No name 1.5 in belt - $10 maybe "Ghetto Tacos" that I made myself out of a Voodoo triple mag pouch and a Voodoo triple rifle mag pouch -$30 shipped Serpa Holster - $25 shipped Condor Dump Pouch - $15 shipped 2 California Competition Shot Shell Caddies - $30 shipped So $120 bucks for a full 3 gun setup that got the job done. Totally functional, but was not comfortable to wear even for a 4 hour match, items would slide around, and items were not modular. My new much more functional I use every time I go shooting belt, that's not just for cool internet picture belt 
HSGI Rigger Belt - $50 HSGI Suregrip - $50 2X HSGI DD Taco $84 1X HSGI Pistol Taco -$25 Condor Dump Pouch - $15 AAC Suppressor Pouch - $FREE Custom Holster - $70 2X California Competition Shot Shell Caddy - $30 So $324 for a fully done up 3 gun / war belt. That is easily 10X more comfortable, more durable, and more capable of multiple load outs. New setup is worth every dime! |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:01:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2015 8:43:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TR0N_0010:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/16584868545_e30464c11f_h.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7325/16583642431_4ac972cc52_h.jpg That's interesting what you did for the shotgun shells. I'm stuck with my shotgun for now since I just recently moved to NJ and AR's are VERBOTEN!!! So I've been trying to figure out how to make my 870 work with my belt |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 8:51:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: That's interesting what you did for the shotgun shells. I'm stuck with my shotgun for now since I just recently moved to NJ and AR's are VERBOTEN!!! So I've been trying to figure out how to make my 870 work with my belt Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: That's interesting what you did for the shotgun shells. I'm stuck with my shotgun for now since I just recently moved to NJ and AR's are VERBOTEN!!! So I've been trying to figure out how to make my 870 work with my belt |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 10:06:59 PM EDT
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Esstac Shotgun Card
Stick it into any standard mag pouch. All you need to make it work is some loop velcro on the side of your shotgun, and you're set. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:28:30 AM EDT
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Does anyone make a rigger's belt stiffer than HSGI's (with inner velcro)? I like my new lower-profile setup, but the belt is a little floppy.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 7:49:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey:
Does anyone make a rigger's belt stiffer than HSGI's (with inner velcro)? I like my new lower-profile setup, but the belt is a little floppy. The Ares Armor belt it possibly the stiffest I've seen with a cobra buckle. If you're ok with a plastic fastex type buckle the Blackhawk 2" duty belt/pistol belt is the stiffest thing I've ever seen period and it's lined with velcro. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 8:41:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFC_Dustin: The Ares Armor belt it possibly the stiffest I've seen with a cobra buckle. If you're ok with a plastic fastex type buckle the Blackhawk 2" duty belt/pistol belt is the stiffest thing I've ever seen period and it's lined with velcro. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFC_Dustin: Originally Posted By MadMonkey: Does anyone make a rigger's belt stiffer than HSGI's (with inner velcro)? I like my new lower-profile setup, but the belt is a little floppy. The Ares Armor belt it possibly the stiffest I've seen with a cobra buckle. If you're ok with a plastic fastex type buckle the Blackhawk 2" duty belt/pistol belt is the stiffest thing I've ever seen period and it's lined with velcro. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SBCZILLA:
$75 for whatever belt $100 for 2 DD Tacos $100 for a COMPLETE kydex setup $50 for dump pouch, and whatever miscellaneous. $325ish. . Could shave some $ on a real basic belt, acheaper holster, and basic kydex mag holders. There are reasons for spending that cash IMHO. And you for got a fixblade knife 
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Posted: 2/22/2015 12:33:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SBCZILLA]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
There are reasons for spending that cash IMHO. And you for got a fixblade knife Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
$75 for whatever belt $100 for 2 DD Tacos $100 for a COMPLETE kydex setup $50 for dump pouch, and whatever miscellaneous. $325ish. . Could shave some $ on a real basic belt, acheaper holster, and basic kydex mag holders. There are reasons for spending that cash IMHO. And you for got a fixblade knife We start adding in the $ of all the shit we are going to hang on these things, and its a damn good thing its tax return season. |
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Posted: 2/22/2015 2:24:57 PM EDT
[#39]
From left to right Condor rigger belt Hsgi battle belt Esstac pistol pouch Itw fastmag Itw fastmag Busse mean streets in custom kydex Hsgi magnet dump pouch Surefire hl1 (for the ir beacon) Glock 19 in gcode retention holster Its fatboy ifak Marz tq pouch I like this setup the pistol looks close to the ifak but when I'm wearing it its not |
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Posted: 2/22/2015 9:59:34 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
http://i.imgur.com/abaONbX.jpg From left to right Condor rigger belt Hsgi battle belt Esstac pistol pouch Itw fastmag Itw fastmag Busse mean streets in custom kydex Hsgi magnet dump pouch Surefire hl1 (for the ir beacon) Glock 19 in gcode retention holster Its fatboy ifak Marz tq pouch I like this setup the pistol looks close to the ifak but when I'm wearing it its not Not worried about the ifaks proximity to the pistol, it looks like its in the front of your leg. Do you have a huge waist? If not you need to try sitting down with that ifak right there. |
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Posted: 2/22/2015 11:36:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Not worried about the ifaks proximity to the pistol, it looks like its in the front of your leg. Do you have a huge waist? If not you need to try sitting down with that ifak right there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
http://i.imgur.com/abaONbX.jpg From left to right Condor rigger belt Hsgi battle belt Esstac pistol pouch Itw fastmag Itw fastmag Busse mean streets in custom kydex Hsgi magnet dump pouch Surefire hl1 (for the ir beacon) Glock 19 in gcode retention holster Its fatboy ifak Marz tq pouch I like this setup the pistol looks close to the ifak but when I'm wearing it its not Not worried about the ifaks proximity to the pistol, it looks like its in the front of your leg. Do you have a huge waist? If not you need to try sitting down with that ifak right there. When I bought all my stuff last year I was 300lbs I'm now down to 260 and the ifak is becoming more of a problem but I'm still not it the point where I can move it behind my pistol and access it with both hands I'm working on the weight and another 40 pounds and I'll have a lot more flexibility |
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Posted: 2/22/2015 11:56:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
When I bought all my stuff last year I was 300lbs I'm now down to 260 and the ifak is becoming more of a problem but I'm still not it the point where I can move it behind my pistol and access it with both hands I'm working on the weight and another 40 pounds and I'll have a lot more flexibility Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
http://i.imgur.com/abaONbX.jpg From left to right Condor rigger belt Hsgi battle belt Esstac pistol pouch Itw fastmag Itw fastmag Busse mean streets in custom kydex Hsgi magnet dump pouch Surefire hl1 (for the ir beacon) Glock 19 in gcode retention holster Its fatboy ifak Marz tq pouch I like this setup the pistol looks close to the ifak but when I'm wearing it its not Not worried about the ifaks proximity to the pistol, it looks like its in the front of your leg. Do you have a huge waist? If not you need to try sitting down with that ifak right there. When I bought all my stuff last year I was 300lbs I'm now down to 260 and the ifak is becoming more of a problem but I'm still not it the point where I can move it behind my pistol and access it with both hands I'm working on the weight and another 40 pounds and I'll have a lot more flexibility My fatboy IFAK is in the small of my back. It gives good lumbar support seated in a vehicle. Also consider if you got hit and need to render self aid you can just unhook your belt, unlike armor you don't need belt emergency gear in rapid arms reach since it is easily removable. |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 2:39:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
My fatboy IFAK is in the small of my back. It gives good lumbar support seated in a vehicle. Also consider if you got hit and need to render self aid you can just unhook your belt, unlike armor you don't need belt emergency gear in rapid arms reach since it is easily removable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
http://i.imgur.com/abaONbX.jpg From left to right Condor rigger belt Hsgi battle belt Esstac pistol pouch Itw fastmag Itw fastmag Busse mean streets in custom kydex Hsgi magnet dump pouch Surefire hl1 (for the ir beacon) Glock 19 in gcode retention holster Its fatboy ifak Marz tq pouch I like this setup the pistol looks close to the ifak but when I'm wearing it its not Not worried about the ifaks proximity to the pistol, it looks like its in the front of your leg. Do you have a huge waist? If not you need to try sitting down with that ifak right there. When I bought all my stuff last year I was 300lbs I'm now down to 260 and the ifak is becoming more of a problem but I'm still not it the point where I can move it behind my pistol and access it with both hands I'm working on the weight and another 40 pounds and I'll have a lot more flexibility My fatboy IFAK is in the small of my back. It gives good lumbar support seated in a vehicle. Also consider if you got hit and need to render self aid you can just unhook your belt, unlike armor you don't need belt emergency gear in rapid arms reach since it is easily removable. I changed it around based on your reccomendation it is significantly more comfortable my only concern at this point does anyone think I'm raising my risk for back injury by having the scissors vertical in line with my spine should I try to mount them horizontaly? |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 2:42:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
[#44]
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2015 6:02:56 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 6:14:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 7:34:10 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. 
I'm always up for suggestions I have a boo boo kit in my pack and a fairly intensive med pack I bring to shoots (plus a bunch of casualty care classes taken in the last few years) |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 7:53:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
http://i.imgur.com/2ikeksC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2oi8tJN.jpg I'm always up for suggestions I have a boo boo kit in my pack and a fairly intensive med pack I bring to shoots (plus a bunch of casualty care classes taken in the last few years) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. http://i.imgur.com/2ikeksC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2oi8tJN.jpg I'm always up for suggestions I have a boo boo kit in my pack and a fairly intensive med pack I bring to shoots (plus a bunch of casualty care classes taken in the last few years) One of the authors of TCCC told me if he could only carry one thing if would be a tq. If he could only carry two things it would be two tqs. If you have room I'd put in another tq. |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 8:02:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107:
One of the authors of TCCC told me if he could only carry one thing if would be a tq. If he could only carry two things it would be two tqs. If you have room I'd put in another tq. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. http://i.imgur.com/2ikeksC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2oi8tJN.jpg I'm always up for suggestions I have a boo boo kit in my pack and a fairly intensive med pack I bring to shoots (plus a bunch of casualty care classes taken in the last few years) One of the authors of TCCC told me if he could only carry one thing if would be a tq. If he could only carry two things it would be two tqs. If you have room I'd put in another tq. I have one strapped to the outside of that ifak one on my plate carrier and one on my rifle |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 8:20:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CrazyWhiteGuy]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107:
One of the authors of TCCC told me if he could only carry one thing if would be a tq. If he could only carry two things it would be two tqs. If you have room I'd put in another tq. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
Originally Posted By cofi:
Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy:
The scissors fit inside the fatboy. Mines are in the pack of the fat pocket at an angle. I don't think I could fit a tic tac in mine at this point :) What do you all have in there? I have a shit ton of stuff in there, plus a TC3 flex book just in case I get shot and some cake eater doesn't remember how to treat a casualty
Remember the FAK is for you, extra med shit should go in your backpack. http://i.imgur.com/2ikeksC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2oi8tJN.jpg I'm always up for suggestions I have a boo boo kit in my pack and a fairly intensive med pack I bring to shoots (plus a bunch of casualty care classes taken in the last few years) One of the authors of TCCC told me if he could only carry one thing if would be a tq. If he could only carry two things it would be two tqs. If you have room I'd put in another tq. Yup. The plus side of the fatboy is extra space though for stuff to treat other injuries. My TQs go on the belt/in a pocket/on a vest. Mine has x3 quick clot gauze Chest seal NPA/NCD X1 standard gauze X1 med ACE wrap X1 petroleum seal TC3 book Shears Gives you enough stuff to patch a few different types of holes. 
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