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Posted: 6/26/2024 4:15:30 PM EDT
[#1]
The Ral8k sbr I ordered just got shipped out today from the first batch. FYI for anyone that's anticipating theirs.
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Posted: 6/26/2024 6:24:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Norinco982lover]
[#2]
My order was 316X for a black T7 with separate orders the same day for grip and stock I believe.
My orders all show processing. Hoping it will ship soon! |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:36:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Black T7 shipping label complete and the stock I ordered shipping label created so good progress! Hopefully they track tomorrow.
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Posted: 6/28/2024 10:38:56 AM EDT
[#4]
@JT526 what’s your serial? Or what’s the number in the notes right above the tracking number?
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Posted: 6/28/2024 8:14:26 PM EDT
[#5]
That is the serial based on the pic Tommy posted a few weeks ago. Should be 14-000000X
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Posted: 6/28/2024 8:36:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: That is the serial based on the pic Tommy posted a few weeks ago. Should be 14-000000X Looks like I got a good one then. Number 25 |
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Posted: 6/28/2024 9:03:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#7]
@Norinco982lover
delivery scheduled for Monday, so that is a win. 14-000246 As a reminder, here are your order details: [Order #3148] (May 24, 2024) |
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Posted: 6/28/2024 9:33:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: @Norinco982lover delivery scheduled for Monday, so that is a win. 14-000246 As a reminder, here are your order details: [Order #3148] (May 24, 2024) Thank you! Same delivery date but won’t pick it up til Wednesday. |
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Posted: 6/28/2024 9:59:45 PM EDT
[#9]
I got one of the first ten. Nice.
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Posted: 6/28/2024 11:20:04 PM EDT
[#10]
 The Elusive MP7: First look at the Tommy Built T7 |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 12:30:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryThat back plate hammer follow issue is concerning. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 7:08:20 AM EDT
[#12]
There are some bad experience over on the thread at HKPro.
Really hope these get worked out and improvements are made in future batches, and that Tommy doesn't completely dump the project. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 7:44:35 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: There are some bad experience over on the thread at HKPro. Really hope these get worked out and improvements are made in future batches, and that Tommy doesn't completely dump the project. “If you complain about issues, you will be banned”  |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:12:48 AM EDT
[#14]
I won’t bitch if Tommybuilt keeps my-not-yet shipped black T7 a bit longer while they work through initial complaints and check all their guns out.
And this is a reverse engineered gun with a brand new fire control mechanism so bugs are part of the deal. TB is a reputable company and our credit cards have purchase protection. No big deal yet. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 10:07:31 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: “If you complain about issues, you will be banned” Yeah that comment by the mod was eye opening, although that forum has always been an echo chamber. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 10:13:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dragon82: Yeah that comment by the mod was eye opening, although that forum has always been an echo chamber. I’ve got a bunch of HK stuff plus -$6k into the T7 and accessories and I still can’t bring myself to join that stupid website. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 10:47:46 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dragon82: Yeah that comment by the mod was eye opening, although that forum has always been an echo chamber. Got banned on there the other day for “sandbagging”. No idea what they mean by that. Go by the same username and literally only had an intro post and commented in the T7 thread. Seems a little silly but oh well. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:40:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: “If you complain about issues, you will be banned” That’s not what he said. They want no personal attacks on TB. Discussion of problems or technical issues is welcome, but some people, most of whom do not have one of the guns, are going after him personally. That’s not cool, because TB has always stood by his product even if he can’t fix the issues. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:24:34 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: That's not what he said. They want no personal attacks on TB. Discussion of problems or technical issues is welcome, but some people, most of whom do not have one of the guns, are going after him personally. That's not cool, because TB has always stood by his product even if he can't fix the issues. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: Originally Posted By fike: "If you complain about issues, you will be banned" That's not what he said. They want no personal attacks on TB. Discussion of problems or technical issues is welcome, but some people, most of whom do not have one of the guns, are going after him personally. That's not cool, because TB has always stood by his product even if he can't fix the issues. Tom is definitely a good dude - easily one of the nicest dudes in the industry and anytime I've spoken with him via email he has been beyond pleasant to deal with. Dude responded to my emails within a minute of sending and he was happy to answer literally any questions I had. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:42:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistorySo, instead of contacting Tom to sort their issues they made a YouTube video to grab google ad dollars. Cute. They’re sensationalizing that manipulating the tray will release the hammer. It absolutely will release the hammer and it would do the same on an actual MP7. Wednesday Addams doesn’t understand the trigger bar is connected to the sear. In normal operation, the trigger pulls the trigger bar forward which in turn pulls the sear forward thereby releasing the hammer. Pulling the tray backwards has the exact same effect. In that instance the trigger bar is stationary but hooked to the sear. Pulling the tray reward moves everything to the rear except the sear which is held by the trigger bar. The hammer then releases because the sear stayed with the trigger bar and the hammer moved away from it. I’m bewildered by the pins being that loose. The recoil rod presses against the backplate and is under tension. Any slack between the holes would be taken up by the backplate being pushed away from the receiver. If they had the recoil rod in it, then either the backplate is too snug in the receiver walls to move, or there is no tension on the recoil rod at rest. In any event, contacting Tom would have sorted the problem but evidently there is more money to be had dressing up, wearing masks, and talking about crap they have no knowledge about. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 2:10:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BBOHACH]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: So, instead of contacting Tom to sort their issues they made a YouTube video to grab google ad dollars. Cute. They’re sensationalizing that manipulating the tray will release the hammer. It absolutely will release the hammer and it would do the same on an actual MP7. Wednesday Addams doesn’t understand the trigger bar is connected to the sear. In normal operation, the trigger pulls the trigger bar forward which in turn pulls the sear forward thereby releasing the hammer. Pulling the tray backwards has the exact same effect. In that instance the trigger bar is stationary but hooked to the sear. Pulling the tray reward moves everything to the rear except the sear which is held by the trigger bar. The hammer then releases because the sear stayed with the trigger bar and the hammer moved away from it. I’m bewildered by the pins being that loose. The recoil rod presses against the backplate and is under tension. Any slack between the holes would be taken up by the backplate being pushed away from the receiver. If they had the recoil rod in it, then either the backplate is too snug in the receiver walls to move, or there is no tension on the recoil rod at rest. In any event, contacting Tom would have sorted the problem but evidently there is more money to be had dressing up, wearing masks, and talking about crap they have no knowledge about. That video is an incredibly cringey response to the T7 no matter how knowledgeable or ill informed that person is. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 3:05:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evintos: That back plate hammer follow issue is concerning. Color me skeptical about the hammer follow given their video content. There is a trigger bar spring, sear spring, firing pin spring, and firing pin safety all working against that happening. For a round to be in the chamber, the hammer must be restrained by the sear or else the carrier cannot cycle. For the hammer to be restrained, the sear must be engaged. If the sear is engaged then the trigger bar spring is at rest and not compressed forward because it would be pulling on the sear. If it was pulling on the sear then the hammer was not engaged by the sear. But you know what, the trigger bar is connected to the trigger so if the trigger bar was manipulated forward the trigger would move through its normal arc. If you’re not too bright and you think fiddling with the tray through the pin hole is a good idea, then sure it will fire without moving the trigger. But, every other instance strongly suggests the trigger was pulled. A dead trigger from hammer follow isn’t going to overcome the firing pin safety or the firing pin spring. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2024 4:11:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hecklerjones]
[#23]
One guy posted that he had all three backplates. The pistol, sbr and German. The German had hole size of .237 and the other two were reamed to .238 - .250 with very loose pins. The German was tight like it should be. IIRC the pistol backplate on his was the closer of the two.
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Posted: 7/1/2024 10:10:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#24]
mine is in and I am whelmed. Not over or under. It is cool, looks pretty baller, but I am just eh with it. I may shoot it may not, might be catch and release, added up with all the anccessories, mags, and zpoint/rsa it is about 1/2 way to another machinegun.
Amazing to actually hold something unobtanium though, dopamine hit is real. Initial Observations so far having not put a round through it: mags do not drop free in mine, not sure if that is a thing in the real deal could probably sandpaper that out or maybe it wears in. Trigger is good no complaints there, firm and crisp, heavy enough to feel safe but fairly light. Safety is easy to actuate and ergonomic for an HK. Tommy built stock and backplate is about as wobbly as my Lage m11/9 stock, more wobbly than my honey badger stock. Really like the carrying case it came in, that's a plus. takedown pins on mine are good to go, needs some persuasion in and out on the sbr backplate, a little tighter than looser if you know what I mean. texture and plastic is good, feels like quality. Zpoint/RSA sight clips on firmly like it should, so no issues there, XPS 3-0 is a no go same as others reported, larue aimpoint qd fit right on. I'd just use a Unity riser anyway if using an XPS 3 whatever qd one. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 4:42:40 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: mine is in and I am whelmed. Not over or under. It is cool, looks pretty baller, but I am just eh with it. I may shoot it may not, might be catch and release, added up with all the anccessories, mags, and zpoint/rsa it is about 1/2 way to another machinegun. Amazing to actually hold something unobtanium though, dopamine hit is real. Initial Observations so far having not put a round through it: mags do not drop free in mine, not sure if that is a thing in the real deal could probably sandpaper that out or maybe it wears in. Trigger is good no complaints there, firm and crisp, heavy enough to feel safe but fairly light. Safety is easy to actuate and ergonomic for an HK. Tommy built stock and backplate is about as wobbly as my Lage m11/9 stock, more wobbly than my honey badger stock. Really like the carrying case it came in, that's a plus. takedown pins on mine are good to go, needs some persuasion in and out on the sbr backplate, a little tighter than looser if you know what I mean. texture and plastic is good, feels like quality. Zpoint/RSA sight clips on firmly like it should, so no issues there, XPS 3-0 is a no go same as others reported, larue aimpoint qd fit right on. I'd just use a Unity riser anyway if using an XPS 3 whatever qd one. Well if you decide you don't need it, I would be more than happy to take it off your hands for what you paid lol. I've been watching everyday for the second drop after I got snubbed by the web page not loading. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 5:37:09 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: mine is in and I am whelmed. Not over or under. It is cool, looks pretty baller, but I am just eh with it. I may shoot it may not, might be catch and release, added up with all the anccessories, mags, and zpoint/rsa it is about 1/2 way to another machinegun. Amazing to actually hold something unobtanium though, dopamine hit is real. Initial Observations so far having not put a round through it: mags do not drop free in mine, not sure if that is a thing in the real deal could probably sandpaper that out or maybe it wears in. Trigger is good no complaints there, firm and crisp, heavy enough to feel safe but fairly light. Safety is easy to actuate and ergonomic for an HK. Tommy built stock and backplate is about as wobbly as my Lage m11/9 stock, more wobbly than my honey badger stock. Really like the carrying case it came in, that's a plus. takedown pins on mine are good to go, needs some persuasion in and out on the sbr backplate, a little tighter than looser if you know what I mean. texture and plastic is good, feels like quality. Zpoint/RSA sight clips on firmly like it should, so no issues there, XPS 3-0 is a no go same as others reported, larue aimpoint qd fit right on. I'd just use a Unity riser anyway if using an XPS 3 whatever qd one. On an unrelated note... Do you happen to own a camera? 
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Posted: 7/2/2024 7:53:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: On an unrelated note... Do you happen to own a camera? |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 8:04:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Well mine has been hostage with USPS apparently since the 23rd so that’s cool. Looks like it may finally be delivered tomorrow.
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Posted: 7/2/2024 8:07:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamaSita: On an unrelated note... Do you happen to own a camera? airsoft (honestly good enough) mp7 sights Zeiss Zpoint Rovy whatever laser to try out, but have the CQBL+Vampire as well.       |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 10:37:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KCGewehr]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Well mine has been hostage with USPS apparently since the 23rd so that’s cool. Looks like it may finally be delivered tomorrow. I'm in the same boat. Shipped last Friday and supposed to be delivered yesterday. Last update says it's still in Florida. Same thing with my grip and stock. USPS is terrible. Trying to get range time on Independence Day! |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 3:06:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: norshon3]
[#31]
re: Infamous Video....
That video was so creepy and cringeworthy....the whole homosexual goth thing is just weird AF. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:06:56 PM EDT
[#32]
I hope your guys Mp7’s work.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:32:31 PM EDT
[#33]
anyone still in need of a magazine?
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USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:47:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saltydecimator: anyone still in need of a magazine? Got a link to one? |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 7:47:46 AM EDT
[#35]
The T7 group admins are touchy people.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 10:20:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slimjim: Got a link to one? @slimjim i have a 30rder, new i think. dunno where wrapper is.... if ya pm me i can send pic? |
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USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 3:38:11 PM EDT
[#37]
I cannot currently recommend the T7, if they function like my friends T7 Didnt. As well as actions by their FB page on banning anyone with QC issues.
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Posted: 7/4/2024 7:48:16 PM EDT
[#38]
I tried mine out today and had no failures over several boxes and multiple ammo types
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USA
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Posted: 7/4/2024 8:04:34 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: I tried mine out today and had no failures over several boxes and multiple ammo types Black, or RAL, Suppressed, or not? |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 8:38:27 PM EDT
[#40]
black, unsuppressed
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2024 8:32:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BRSONE]
[#41]
Looks like MP7 40rd mags in stock , Ordered 3 .
https://hkpartspro.com/hk-mp7a1-46mm-40rd-magazine |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 10:57:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BRSONE: Looks like MP7 40rd mags in stock , Ordered 3 . https://hkpartspro.com/hk-mp7a1-46mm-40rd-magazine Thanks, finally got a 40 rounder. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 12:09:11 PM EDT
[#43]
They’re still in stock. Is the mag shortage over? |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 12:36:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mustangduckk: They’re still in stock. Is the mag shortage over? There’s no shortage, just speculators buying them without even owning a gun. The price Blue ridge set is high enough to deter some of that while not being overly unreasonable to the shooters. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 12:39:30 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: That’s not what he said. They want no personal attacks on TB. Discussion of problems or technical issues is welcome, but some people, most of whom do not have one of the guns, are going after him personally. That’s not cool, because TB has always stood by his product even if he can’t fix the issues. Lol, no its not, hence my ban from The group. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/5/2024 12:55:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: There’s no shortage, just speculators buying them without even owning a gun. The price Blue ridge set is high enough to deter some of that while not being overly unreasonable to the shooters. To be fair, a lot of us still don't have a gun, but are eagerly awaiting future drops. Also, while I am a sucker for HK pricing, it hurts knowing that Midwest Gunworks had 40 rounders in stock yesterday for ~$16 cheaper than Blueridge. Gotta pay to play I suppose. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 2:12:55 PM EDT
[#47]
At Midwest they sold out in seconds. I think people are using site page change detectors, maybe for their own uses of the mags? But it’s suspicious.
I suspect the only reason I got my T7 was there was so much of that bullshit pinging Tom’s site that it crashed for a while and I got one when things cleared up. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 2:39:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: At Midwest they sold out in seconds. I think people are using site page change detectors, maybe for their own uses of the mags? But it’s suspicious. I suspect the only reason I got my T7 was there was so much of that bullshit pinging Tom’s site that it crashed for a while and I got one when things cleared up. It's possible people are trying to quick-flip the mags, but it's hard to say without knowing how many have been sold overall. I'm more inclined to believe people just like hoarding an unreasonable amount of something "scarce." As far as the shenanigans on the first drop, I agree. There was a frenzy when it went live. Then everything crashed and people thought the drop would be canceled. A few minutes later I got as far as the payment page before the out of stock error. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:11:36 PM EDT
[#49]
 First Shots: The Tommybuilt T7 (MP7 Clone, Part 1) Unbiased and i leave my personal opinions out. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:17:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slimjim:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74u0BVyqLr0Unbiased and i leave my personal opinions out. |
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