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Quoted: its not that bad, or at least not if you dont travel out of state much. I have lots of stamps and beyond the initial paperwork and wait I haven't had any difficulties. View Quote 1) Ask for permission 2) Wait up to a year to get permission 3) In asking for permission, also grant permission for them to come by at ANY time to inspect it sans warrant 4) Be restricted in how it can be carried (aka - i can legally carry my AR pistol in the car, but could not an SBR) 5) Be restricted in how it can be used (many states allow pistol hunting, but wont allow an SBR to be used) 6) Be restricted in how it can be transferred (woo! i can sell again without asking permission) 7) Fund an organization bent on restricting my rights as a citizen Certainly am interested in this getup. Not a fan of the buttstock, but if the "loophole" isn't related to that, maybe it would be legal to change it later.. |
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Quoted: Meh. Its worth the premium paid to not have to: 1) Ask for permission 2) Wait up to a year to get permission 3) In asking for permission, also grant permission for them to come by at ANY time to inspect it sans warrant 4) Be restricted in how it can be carried (aka - i can legally carry my AR pistol in the car, but could not an SBR) 5) Be restricted in how it can be used (many states allow pistol hunting, but wont allow an SBR to be used) 6) Be restricted in how it can be transferred (woo! i can sell again without asking permission) 7) Fund an organization bent on restricting my rights as a citizen Certainly am interested in this getup. Not a fan of the buttstock, but if the "loophole" isn't related to that, maybe it would be legal to change it later.. View Quote |
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This reminds me of the BadSelfEater thread
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According to the NFA an SBR is any firearm with a buttstock that has a rifled barrel of less than sixteen inches, or an overall length of less than twenty six inches. The total length is measured in the extended position. If this is the correct verbiage of the ATF, then the key word in all of that is "OR". The barrel is less than 16 inches, but the overall length when stock is fully extended is over 26 inches which would keep it from being an SBR. Right? Just speculating View Quote Kind of like Canada where a 12”barrel 870 over 26” oal with a buttstock is bear medicine where as in Alaska it would be a big bore handgun. Hmmm. |
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Quoted: Meh. Its worth the premium paid to not have to: 1) Ask for permission 2) Wait up to a year to get permission 3) In asking for permission, also grant permission for them to come by at ANY time to inspect it sans warrant 4) Be restricted in how it can be carried (aka - i can legally carry my AR pistol in the car, but could not an SBR) 5) Be restricted in how it can be used (many states allow pistol hunting, but wont allow an SBR to be used) 6) Be restricted in how it can be transferred (woo! i can sell again without asking permission) 7) Fund an organization bent on restricting my rights as a citizen Certainly am interested in this getup. Not a fan of the buttstock, but if the "loophole" isn't related to that, maybe it would be legal to change it later.. View Quote |
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I am belong all your cookies!
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Has anyone paid attention to the background picture? Surely the use of a hammer might have something to do with the answer.... Sorry I'll put my tin foil hat away for now
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#BADARFEATER
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OK, am starting to think this might be more than a troll job, fingers crossed.
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the background image is martin luther https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/89F2944D-4F26-43E7-95B6-0E0E8353012B-418152.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/924FAB4F-D3C0-49B4-B898-7DAE38AEAD73-418154.JPG View Quote |
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Someone on TFB pointed out that a muzzleloader would be GTG in this configuration. So fingers crossed it's not that.
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I want the silencer loop hole. Fucking assholes like us to cause hearing damage for no good reason
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My biggest question is mow much more are they going to sell this for versus a normal SBR and $200 stamp? Because lol buying a $500 gimmick trigger so you dont have to buy a $200 stamp or just use a "pistol brace wink wink" is pretty fucking dumb. View Quote |
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There's a little more to it than that. I live in Illinois but own property in Missouri where my range is. Wouldn't want to have to write a letter every time I went to the range. Also not everybody has a CLEO that will sign off on a SBR in their state laws even allow for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My biggest question is mow much more are they going to sell this for versus a normal SBR and $200 stamp? Because lol buying a $500 gimmick trigger so you dont have to buy a $200 stamp or just use a "pistol brace wink wink" is pretty fucking dumb. |
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Someone on TFB pointed out that a muzzleloader would be GTG in this configuration. So fingers crossed it's not that. View Quote But what the hell would you do with an 11.5" muzzleloader? I don't know what the secret is, but it's gotta be semi-auto, at least. No way they would sell a muzzleloading AR. |
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There's a little more to it than that. I live in Illinois but own property in Missouri where my range is. Wouldn't want to have to write a letter every time I went to the range. Also not everybody has a CLEO that will sign off on a SBR in their state laws even allow for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My biggest question is mow much more are they going to sell this for versus a normal SBR and $200 stamp? Because lol buying a $500 gimmick trigger so you dont have to buy a $200 stamp or just use a "pistol brace wink wink" is pretty fucking dumb. |
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Quoted: You say that, but there is far more hassle with NFA firearms than the initial paperwork. Transportation, storage, access, transfer... it’s a pain for life. View Quote Go look in any thread about such items and you'll find guys with lots of NFA stuff poopooing them. They don't like that others enjoy the same thing without jumping through hoops and getting a permission slip. |
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26 U.S. Code § 5845
(c) Rifle The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge. (d) Shotgun The term “shotgun” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell. View Quote How about an inverted trigger break? The gun doesn't fire on the pull, but rather on the release. It'd certainly be trying to shoot it, but that seems capable of escaping the definitions, given the allowance and functionality of the binary triggers. |
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Quoted: DISCLAIMER: I don't believe this to be the method they're using -- as the trigger group appears to be their standard binary trigger... How about an inverted trigger break? The gun doesn't fire on the pull, but rather on the release. It'd certainly be trying to shoot it, but that seems capable of escaping the definitions, given the allowance and functionality of the binary triggers. View Quote https://www.franklinarmory.com/blogs/news/tagged/rfs |
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Franklin released that around the same time as the original BFS, it's called the RFS trigger "Release Firing System". https://www.franklinarmory.com/blogs/news/tagged/rfs View Quote |
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Meh. I already have SBRs, pistols, cans, and Geissele/LaRue triggers. Franklin can take this thing and shove it up their asses, along with their corny fucking binary trigger.
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Quoted: DISCLAIMER: I don't believe this to be the method they're using -- as the trigger group appears to be their standard binary trigger... How about an inverted trigger break? The gun doesn't fire on the pull, but rather on the release. It'd certainly be trying to shoot it, but that seems capable of escaping the definitions, given the allowance and functionality of the binary triggers. View Quote |
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Quoted: Stamp collectors hate this kind of stuff. They hate braces, they hate bump stocks, they hate binary triggers. Go look in any thread about such items and you'll find guys with lots of NFA stuff poopooing them. They don't like that others enjoy the same thing without jumping through hoops and getting a permission slip. View Quote |
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My biggest question is mow much more are they going to sell this for versus a normal SBR and $200 stamp? Because lol buying a $500 gimmick trigger so you dont have to buy a $200 stamp or just use a "pistol brace wink wink" is pretty fucking dumb. |
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Quoted: Stamp collectors hate this kind of stuff. They hate braces, they hate bump stocks, they hate binary triggers. Go look in any thread about such items and you'll find guys with lots of NFA stuff poopooing them. They don't like that others enjoy the same thing without jumping through hoops and getting a permission slip. View Quote |
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Did some digging and found this patent.
Therefore, a need exists for a new and improved semi-automatic rimfire rifle that converts a semi-automatic rifle from a centerfire caliber to a rimfire caliber while retaining the rifle's original fire control group and lower receiver. In this regard, the various embodiments of the present invention substantially fulfill at least some of these needs. In this respect, the semi-automatic rimfire rifle according to the present invention substantially departs from the conventional concepts and designs of the prior art, and in doing so provides an apparatus primarily developed for the purpose of providing a semi-automatic rimfire rifle that converts a semi-automatic rifle from a centerfire caliber to a rimfire caliber while retaining the rifle's original fire control group and lower receiver. View Quote |
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And you can get your 5320.20s for a whole year's time, din't Need a new one for every trip. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My biggest question is mow much more are they going to sell this for versus a normal SBR and $200 stamp? Because lol buying a $500 gimmick trigger so you dont have to buy a $200 stamp or just use a "pistol brace wink wink" is pretty fucking dumb. |
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Quoted: CMMG was supposed to come out with a muzzleloader upper several years ago, I don't think it ever went into production though View Quote |
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How NOT to make a Pull and Release Trigger! |
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This was on ARFCOM's default page when I refreshed: https://www.ar15.com/images/main/brownells/1951_Brownells-400x470-180111.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: Yes, the ATF used to allow some pistols to have collapsible stocks if pinned or welded in the closed position. However, it is ruled on a case-by-case variance, and the modularity of the AR platform would make it problematic. View Quote |
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What's that thingy in between the selector and the rear qd cup?
Almost looks like it rides in a groove in that upper. Maybe something off of the bcg that gets tripped by your thumb? Just a smudge of dirt? ETA: checked another pic. Just a shadow. Carry on with ridiculous postulations. |
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What's that thingy in between the selector and the rear qd cup? Almost looks like it rides in a groove in that upper. Maybe something off of the bcg that gets tripped by your thumb? Just a smudge of dirt? View Quote Jesus H Christ the derp in here is rampant. |
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When did that change and what is the process now then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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With the martin luther revelation, it's obvious they found a religious loophole. If you join their cult, you can not be regulated due to the first amendment.
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It's the Fucking takedown pin. Jesus H Christ the derp in here is rampant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's that thingy in between the selector and the rear qd cup? Almost looks like it rides in a groove in that upper. Maybe something off of the bcg that gets tripped by your thumb? Just a smudge of dirt? Jesus H Christ the derp in here is rampant. |
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