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What's worse: the plane door blowing out or ending up in Portland?
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Obligatory 3rd page post for the first 2 pgs that havent read the first 2 and realized it yet
You can obviously see seats by this "door". This was a not an emergency exit. It is a factory built door included as part of the base airframe build,.... that is not utilized in this seating configuration so it is blocked off and covered and looks like a wall on the inside. There was no door handle for passengers to jiggle. The airframe is only 2 months old. its a manufacturing fuck up |
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View Quote Lots of things aren't supposed to happen but they do. |
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Kudos to the stress engineering team who got the math right on their burst condition calcs.
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The only way to stop this from happening again is mote intensive TSA passenger checks.
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Boeing just got insanely lucky that no one selected that particular seat on that exact flight.
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Quoted: What is a "plug door" and why are they deactivated for pax jets? View Quote "Plug" doors are usually designed for emergency exits only and have to be pulled inward to unseal and remove the door, which is normally tossed sideways out the opening after removing. They will not blow outwards since they seal against the actual airframe. The door shown appears to have several locking dogs on the airframe opening which means those dogs match up with dogs on the missing door. This is probably a "dead" door so to speak, we need to hear from a A&P familiar with the Max. So this door did "blow" out and depart the airframe, the question is why did it blow out? Improper installation, defective parts, passenger or other. |
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I'm always amazed at the level of technical acumen from the community of subject matter experts on this forum. I am constantly learning new things |
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Alaska Air Just agreed to buy Hawaiian airlines for $1.9B last month.
I'm wondering if their stock (ALK) gets absolutely hammered on Monday. |
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Quoted: Exactly. I used to defend Boeing and the Max, but this sort of thing Should Not be happening. They could have easily lost that jet if it blew a few minutes later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Competence crisis strikes again? Exactly. I used to defend Boeing and the Max, but this sort of thing Should Not be happening. They could have easily lost that jet if it blew a few minutes later. Jim McNerney. The gift that keeps on giving. |
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Fuk that shiite...
I am so glad to be retired. 20 year of living oversea's and hundreds of Airline Flights. I have sat in the Exit Door Seat many times for the few extra inches of leg room and slept for hours laying against the door, sometimes unbuckled, that was not there... As soon as we got back to the USA after retiring and coming home for the last time, ms gamboolgal and I both agreed that we will be happy if we never get another Stamp in our Passports ever again. |
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Keeping your seatbelt fastened while in flight is usually a good idea.
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Quoted: Obligatory 3rd page post for the first 2 pgs that havent read the first 2 and realized it yet You can obviously see seats by this "door". This was a not an emergency exit. It is a factory built door included as part of the base airframe build,.... that is not utilized in this seating configuration so it is blocked off and covered and looks like a wall on the inside. There was no door handle for passengers to jiggle. The airframe is only 2 months old. its a manufacturing fuck up View Quote How many takeoff and landings do you figure this plane had? |
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Quoted: Clairvoyance. My crystal ball is showing a Chinese shop worker at the finishing center. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Kudos to the stress engineering team who got the math right on their burst condition calcs. Clairvoyance. My crystal ball is showing a Chinese shop worker at the finishing center. Spirit in Wichita. |
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Quoted: How many takeoff and landings do you figure this plane had? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Obligatory 3rd page post for the first 2 pgs that havent read the first 2 and realized it yet You can obviously see seats by this "door". This was a not an emergency exit. It is a factory built door included as part of the base airframe build,.... that is not utilized in this seating configuration so it is blocked off and covered and looks like a wall on the inside. There was no door handle for passengers to jiggle. The airframe is only 2 months old. its a manufacturing fuck up How many takeoff and landings do you figure this plane had? There’s no way to calculate that, but obviously not many, by airline standards. 2-5 legs a day? Traditionally, Airliners were expected to hold together for 3-4 Decades. |
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Quoted: Nobody can be an expert in everything. This one is a “door plug”, but everyone keeps saying “plug door”. A plug door is made not to get pushed out of the plane under pressure. All the other doors are plug doors, but not this one. View Quote Good explanation for the non aviation people. I was going to say “plug door” means something totally different than this set up. |
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Quoted: Video from in flight
View Quote Bet that was incredibly cold. |
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Notes to self:
1. Never fly again. 2. If I must fly, do not eat anything for twelve hours before departure, and be sure body is fully evacuated. |
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I bet the passengers were all thinking "I should've paid attention during the safety briefing."
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Quoted: How many takeoff and landings do you figure this plane had? View Quote 19 flights in the last week https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n704al |
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I’d have been more pissed that I was diverted to Portland. Can we just keep flying until we hit the next city?
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Quoted: They weren't diverting to PDX, that was where the flight originated. PDX is actually a pretty nice airport. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’d have been more pissed that I was diverted to Portland. Can we just keep flying until we hit the next city? They weren't diverting to PDX, that was where the flight originated. PDX is actually a pretty nice airport. Yeah. It’s not a bad airport at all and much improved over the time I used to work there in the early 90’s. I’ve noticed they are working on it again (just flew in/out in December). That was mostly a joke about how bad Portland sucks. |
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I’m expecting United to ground its fleet today, I’d be shocked if they don’t.
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The passengers would be in far greater danger if they roam around Portland.
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Chinese doors made by: Aerospace Industrial Development Corporation (AIDC), Taichung,Taiwan
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Quoted: I've been in Orlando since Wednesday morning! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Wow, I flew Alaska Air to Orlando Florida Tuesday morning, it was a great flight. Returning on Monday. That would freak me out. I've been in Orlando since Wednesday morning! What are you doing today? We are trying to figure out things to do in the rain. @Procyon |
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View Quote Translation: "I built it, but it definitely wasn't *my* fault!!!" If I were that guy's dad, I'd be worried about my job on Monday morning. Not really a good look to be bringing up my employer in relation to something this attention-grabbing. |
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