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It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus.
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NYC COs? Nope, "Perps in Uniforms". EXTORRIS and the like will be along shortly to backstop this.
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If true, those 2 POS DOC officers deserve the worst punishment available....
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Paid admin leave and 6 months probation? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If true, those 2 POS DOC officers deserve the worst punishment available.... Paid admin leave and 6 months probation? DA there has been charging them left and right lately. |
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Fuck a female inmate without a condom?
Seems like a good idea. |
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Going by mainstream depictions of prison rape, American guards are used to turning a blind eye.
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Just take em out back and put a 9mm in the back of their heads. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If true, those 2 POS DOC officers deserve the worst punishment available.... Just take em out back and put a 9mm in the back of their heads. If true, toss em in prison for a while and make sure the inmates know what happened. Sounds fair. |
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Shitty COs need to be charged.
Shitty leadership needs to be fired. That level of shit doesn't occur out of the blue. |
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A lawsuit of a major felony without a criminal complaint?
Yup, ludicrous. |
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Shitty COs need to be charged. Shitty leadership needs to be fired. That level of shit doesn't occur out of the blue. View Quote You're right. It grows out of the same mentality that defended Glynewicz (spelling, but IDGAF because he was a piece of shit) and covers up other misdeeds by LEOs, or shields them from consequences for their bad acts. |
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I wonder how the other inmates will welcome them if they get convicted.
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Quoted: It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. View Quote All of the "facts" in that story are taken from the plaintiff's allegations in a federal lawsuit and cleverly worded by the author to make them sound like known facts, only adding a "the lawsuit alleges" to the end. Salacious, outrageous accusations get readership, not ethical reporting. You can allege absolutely anything in a lawsuit, and silly, outrageous false claims hoping for "go away" money are extremely common for every large jail facility. At the facility I worked in, if an inmate died in jail for any reason whatsoever, even in his sleep of natural causes, the county would settle with his next of kin for at least $50k just to not deal with the stupidity. A friend of mine was once sued in federal court for supposedly sodomizing a man with a radio antennae while he and some other deputies were placing him into a padded safety cell after he tried to hurt himself. The suit was dropped once the plaintiff's attorney got the requested surveillance video and realized his client was both a lunatic and a scam artist. If the story presented is truly credible, the civil attorney who is filing the suit should be in communication with ever investigative agency that could possibly have jurisdiction over the alleged crime, and if the claim is credible the FBI will pursue civil rights violation charges even if it goes nowhere in state court. The fact that the article doesn't mention a corresponding criminal inquiry sets my BS detector off. |
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Quoted: All of the "facts" in that story are taken from the plaintiff's allegations in a federal lawsuit and cleverly worded by the author to make them sound like known facts, only adding a "the lawsuit alleges" to the end. Salacious, outrageous accusations get readership, not ethical reporting. You can allege absolutely anything in a lawsuit, and silly, outrageous false claims hoping for "go away" money are extremely common for every large jail facility. At the facility I worked in, if an inmate died in jail for any reason whatsoever, even in his sleep of natural causes, the county would settle with his next of kin for at least $50k just to not deal with the stupidity. A friend of mine was once sued in federal court for supposedly sodomizing a man with a radio antennae while he and some other deputies were placing him into a padded safety cell after he tried to hurt himself. The suit was dropped once the plaintiff's attorney got the requested surveillance video and realized his client was both a lunatic and a scam artist. If the story presented is truly credible, the civil attorney who is filing the suit should be in communication with ever investigative agency that could possibly have jurisdiction over the alleged crime, and if the claim is credible the FBI will pursue civil rights violation charges even if it goes nowhere in state court. The fact that the article doesn't mention a corresponding criminal inquiry sets my BS detector off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. All of the "facts" in that story are taken from the plaintiff's allegations in a federal lawsuit and cleverly worded by the author to make them sound like known facts, only adding a "the lawsuit alleges" to the end. Salacious, outrageous accusations get readership, not ethical reporting. You can allege absolutely anything in a lawsuit, and silly, outrageous false claims hoping for "go away" money are extremely common for every large jail facility. At the facility I worked in, if an inmate died in jail for any reason whatsoever, even in his sleep of natural causes, the county would settle with his next of kin for at least $50k just to not deal with the stupidity. A friend of mine was once sued in federal court for supposedly sodomizing a man with a radio antennae while he and some other deputies were placing him into a padded safety cell after he tried to hurt himself. The suit was dropped once the plaintiff's attorney got the requested surveillance video and realized his client was both a lunatic and a scam artist. If the story presented is truly credible, the civil attorney who is filing the suit should be in communication with ever investigative agency that could possibly have jurisdiction over the alleged crime, and if the claim is credible the FBI will pursue civil rights violation charges even if it goes nowhere in state court. The fact that the article doesn't mention a corresponding criminal inquiry sets my BS detector off. It's Rikers Island. There's absolutely nothing outrageous about the accusations. In fact, it's a little bit tamer than I expected. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. Just like Abner Louima right? That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. |
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A lawsuit of a major felony without a criminal complaint? Yup, ludicrous. View Quote Lower standards of evidence in a suit. Criminal is harder to prove. DA's rely on plea bargins for most of their work but they can't normally get that with people in the business. So a suit is easier. |
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Biggest penal colony in the world And that's just the staff. Test a neutron bomb on the place. |
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That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. Just like Abner Louima right? That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. A number of people have posted in various threads that their initial reaction to Louima was disbelief, just like those who's initial reaction here is disbelief. I am not commenting on the technicalities of who is bringing what kind of charges or suits before which venue. I don't think most of the people expressing disbelief in this thread are taking that angle, merely saying that the idea of one prison guard raping an inmate in front of another stretches credulity. And I find that alleged act to be very believable. |
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That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. Just like Abner Louima right? That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a guard or two were dumb enough to fuck a prisoner. It would surprise me if the contact wasn't initiated and/or encouraged by the inmate. Then, once they have the guard by the balls so to speak, for the story to change to "I was forcibly raped." |
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if a guard or two were dumb enough to fuck a prisoner. It would surprise me if the contact wasn't initiated and/or encouraged by the inmate. Then, once they have the guard by the balls so to speak, for the story to change to "I was forcibly raped." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. Just like Abner Louima right? That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a guard or two were dumb enough to fuck a prisoner. It would surprise me if the contact wasn't initiated and/or encouraged by the inmate. Then, once they have the guard by the balls so to speak, for the story to change to "I was forcibly raped." That's exactly what it sounds like. She was DTF as long as he had a condom, but he didn't. |
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That's exactly what it sounds like. She was DTF as long as he had a condom, but he didn't. View Quote Him using a condom isn't good for her. She needs the evidence. Inmates play games. It's what they do and they're good at it. Spend a much time around them and they try to befriend you and start to work their angle. Some will seems like the nicest people ever. Always willing to give a helping hand but it comes with a hook. If they can get you to fuck up, they own you unless you have the fortitude to admit you fucked up and take the consequences. It's completely possible the she threw some ass their way and they jumped on it only to have her turn them in. But she can game for more money if she claims they forcibly raped her (FYI- all staff on inmate sexual contact is non-consensual). |
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Joke's gonna be on him when he finds out "she" wasn't born female. |
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Him using a condom isn't good for her. She needs the evidence. Inmates play games. It's what they do and they're good at it. Spend a much time around them and they try to befriend you and start to work their angle. Some will seems like the nicest people ever. Always willing to give a helping hand but it comes with a hook. If they can get you to fuck up, they own you unless you have the fortitude to admit you fucked up and take the consequences. It's completely possible the she threw some ass their way and they jumped on it only to have her turn them in. But she can game for more money if she claims they forcibly raped her (FYI- all staff on inmate sexual contact is non-consensual). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's exactly what it sounds like. She was DTF as long as he had a condom, but he didn't. Him using a condom isn't good for her. She needs the evidence. Inmates play games. It's what they do and they're good at it. Spend a much time around them and they try to befriend you and start to work their angle. Some will seems like the nicest people ever. Always willing to give a helping hand but it comes with a hook. If they can get you to fuck up, they own you unless you have the fortitude to admit you fucked up and take the consequences. It's completely possible the she threw some ass their way and they jumped on it only to have her turn them in. But she can game for more money if she claims they forcibly raped her (FYI- all staff on inmate sexual contact is non-consensual). word |
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Meh.
Not that I condone their actions, not by a long shot, but prison should be a shitty, hellish place to be. Can't source any fucks to give. |
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Fuck a female inmate without a condom? Seems like a good idea. View Quote ...lol dude is going to jail, and will have his Ebola Aids pre-installed ETA: I have had a former co worker do the deed with a transported inmate (apparently they knew each other in some form in the past)..tardo was happy for about1/2 day. She got to wherever she was headed and sung...tardo is now serving 30+ years (no possibility of consent with a prisoner so ,armed sexual assault, among other charges) I also worked with a guy who was transporting a van full of inmates, was accused of raping one dude, within an hour IA was there, ..he had to give them his underwear, like rfn.. pretty embarrassing with nothing but a arrested guy's word to have to give up your boxers in the booking area and be under investigation for several months (ya, he was paid the whole time) turned out guy was lying..shocking seen it go both ways |
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She may have a problem if she "asked" him to wear a condom, might be taken as consent.
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It's Rikers Island. There's absolutely nothing outrageous about the accusations. In fact, it's a little bit tamer than I expected. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. All of the "facts" in that story are taken from the plaintiff's allegations in a federal lawsuit and cleverly worded by the author to make them sound like known facts, only adding a "the lawsuit alleges" to the end. Salacious, outrageous accusations get readership, not ethical reporting. You can allege absolutely anything in a lawsuit, and silly, outrageous false claims hoping for "go away" money are extremely common for every large jail facility. At the facility I worked in, if an inmate died in jail for any reason whatsoever, even in his sleep of natural causes, the county would settle with his next of kin for at least $50k just to not deal with the stupidity. A friend of mine was once sued in federal court for supposedly sodomizing a man with a radio antennae while he and some other deputies were placing him into a padded safety cell after he tried to hurt himself. The suit was dropped once the plaintiff's attorney got the requested surveillance video and realized his client was both a lunatic and a scam artist. If the story presented is truly credible, the civil attorney who is filing the suit should be in communication with ever investigative agency that could possibly have jurisdiction over the alleged crime, and if the claim is credible the FBI will pursue civil rights violation charges even if it goes nowhere in state court. The fact that the article doesn't mention a corresponding criminal inquiry sets my BS detector off. It's Rikers Island. There's absolutely nothing outrageous about the accusations. In fact, it's a little bit tamer than I expected. Spend time there? |
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Quoted: That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It seems too outrageous to be true. I would think there would be video on the bus. Just like Abner Louima right? That didn't "seem too outrageous to be true" that was investigated properly, went to trial, and resulted in a 30 year sentence for Volpe and a lengthy sentence for his accomplice to his perversion. A civil suit alleging sexual assault by jail guards without a corresponding criminal complaint is fishy and you know it. It may be true, but it does not lend itself to immediate credibility. Even a bush league civil attorney knows that a criminal investigation is the best way to back your case if the crime actually happened. So cops sodomizing a a guy in custody doesn't "seem too outrageous to be true", but a corrections officer fucking a female inmate does???? |
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View Quote Mr Krabs! |
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Inmates play games. It's what they do and they're good at it. Spend a much time around them and they try to befriend you and start to work their angle. Some will seems like the nicest people ever. Always willing to give a helping hand but it comes with a hook. If they can get you to fuck up, they own you unless you have the fortitude to admit you fucked up and take the consequences. It's completely possible the she threw some ass their way and they jumped on it only to have her turn them in. But she can game for more money if she claims they forcibly raped her (FYI- all staff on inmate sexual contact is non-consensual). View Quote So, question for anyone that's seen stuff like this go to trial: Assuming it comes down to witness statements - two COs vs. five inmates. Which does that generally go at trial? Criminal vs. Civil? |
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She may have a problem if she "asked" him to wear a condom, might be taken as consent. View Quote No it wont. It can't. No sexual act between a guard and an inmate is considered consensual because of the authority and power the guard has over the inmate. Kinda like a 25 yo teacher with a 15 yo student. If this guy did anything with her, he's screwed when he gets to court. |
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