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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:18:36 PM EDT
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It certainly wouldn't be a wise course of action. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:19:28 PM EDT
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Never, not a single one. Totally unconstitutional.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:19:52 PM EDT
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Never, not a single one. Totally unconstitutional. Since when has that stopped anything |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:20:09 PM EDT
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They can fuck off to hell.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:20:51 PM EDT
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That would be a bad idea. Doing so would show support for totalitarianism.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:21:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: It certainly wouldn't be a wise course of action. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:22:00 PM EDT
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This won't end well.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:23:11 PM EDT
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Never, not a single one. Totally unconstitutional. 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:23:24 PM EDT
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If the NYPD gets involved the bystander body counts will be horrific.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:26:02 PM EDT
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If the NYPD gets involved the bystander body counts will be horrific. We can only hope they run out of bullets. 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:29:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Never, not a single one. Totally unconstitutional. In NY the reaction will be "you don't need those anyways, sure wish my department issued rifle plates" there was an article in the Ny hometown forum today that someone was arrested for carrying outside the restrictions (hunting only) on his permit. No way is that a penal law violation, he still got arrested. A couple of months ago a guy got arrested for having an illegal suppressor when what he really had was one of those .22lr hk clones with the fake suppressor, still got arrested. Kid in Rochester got arrested for having 'illegal assault weapons' even though they were legal post ban guns, the DA agreed to let the grand jury toss it basically but the kid still got arrested and hired a top flight Rochester criminal defense guy which I would guess was a $ 50k plus payment his parents made. I foresee almost no NY police officers giving up their pensions and .gov jobs over principle, lose their houses and go live in an apartment and make a living as a security guard or swinging a hammer (if they can find work). There are certainly exceptions, but the overriding attitude here will be "you never needed one of those and better just give them up or else" |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:29:50 PM EDT
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... Ouch! Fuck.
Wouldn't wanna be the cop that got that order! |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:30:00 PM EDT
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Ha. Good luck with that.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:31:50 PM EDT
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If the NYPD gets involved the bystander body counts will be horrific. I could only imagine how much hell would be unleashed by the populace on the "enforcers". It would make Iraq look like kids play. not to mention if that started happening how much infrastructure would start magically shutting down.....entire power grids, water, sewage, trash control, communications, flights, you name it. NYC would be a jungle in about ten minutes it would be ugly very quick |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:35:00 PM EDT
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If the NYPD gets involved the bystander body counts will be horrific. I could only imagine how much hell would be unleashed by the populace on the "enforcers". It would make Iraq look like kids play. not to mention if that started happening how much infrastructure would start magically shutting down.....entire power grids, water, sewage, trash control, communications, flights, you name it. NYC would be a jungle in about ten minutes it would be ugly very quick You over estimate our power! I'm going to pull a number out of my ass 99.99% of NYers will comply because law abiding citizens do that 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:39:07 PM EDT
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I'm not NYPD, but I wouldnt follow that order.
Not Constitutional. And I'm not getting killed to fulfill Bloomberg's wildest, wettest dream. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:39:23 PM EDT
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They may be able to disarm NewYork City, I don't think they will have much luck upstate.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:39:53 PM EDT
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I am not saying I wouldn't give them up or that I am going out shooting, but I am not handing anything over with being paid fair value.
There is a process by which the state can seize private property, but it involves due process and/or compensation. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:40:22 PM EDT
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... Ouch! Fuck. Wouldn't wanna be the cop that got that order! Yeah, I can see those orders going over like a fart in church. I'd bet more than half would just quit on the spot. The rest, well, I don't think they would like the result. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:40:34 PM EDT
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Never, not a single one. Totally unconstitutional. In NY the reaction will be "you don't need those anyways, sure wish my department issued rifle plates" there was an article in the Ny hometown forum today that someone was arrested for carrying outside the restrictions (hunting only) on his permit. No way is that a penal law violation, he still got arrested. A couple of months ago a guy got arrested for having an illegal suppressor when what he really had was one of those .22lr hk clones with the fake suppressor, still got arrested. Kid in Rochester got arrested for having 'illegal assault weapons' even though they were legal post ban guns, the DA agreed to let the grand jury toss it basically but the kid still got arrested and hired a top flight Rochester criminal defense guy which I would guess was a $ 50k plus payment his parents made. I foresee almost no NY police officers giving up their pensions and .gov jobs over principle, lose their houses and go live in an apartment and make a living as a security guard or swinging a hammer (if they can find work). There are certainly exceptions, but the overriding attitude here will be "you never needed one of those and better just give them up or else" until a few grow extra orifices at 2800fps.... |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:40:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Good luck to them.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:41:47 PM EDT
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They better review their life insurance benefits with their union rep if they do.
The payouts could bankrupt the whole system... 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:42:17 PM EDT
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They may very well try it in big Blue Zone cities. Suicidal in most of the Red Zone.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:43:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: ... Ouch! Fuck. Wouldn't wanna be the cop that got that order! Especially since according to the article they'd be enforcing a federal law that didn't actually require confiscation. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:43:53 PM EDT
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They may very well try it in big Blue Zone cities. Suicidal in most of the Red Zone. there's also a fuck ton of happy go luck FSA hippies upstate, too. 
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:46:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: They may be able to disarm NewYork City, I don't think they will have much luck upstate. Sure, because what they have done in NYC so far has worked great to disarm criminals. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:47:04 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:47:43 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:49:14 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take. <Insert CoC Violation Here  >
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:53:10 PM EDT
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I could only imagine how much hell would be unleashed by the populace on the "enforcers". It would make Iraq look like kids play. not to mention if that started happening how much infrastructure would start magically shutting down.....entire power grids, water, sewage, trash control, communications, flights, you name it. NYC would be a jungle in about ten minutes it would be ugly very quick You're high. If they haven't done anything by now, they won't. In a related vein, I understand from the bluethers here that NO cops will enforce such an order, yet here are cops, pondering it. Hmmm. I am confused. Please shed some light, if you will. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:54:29 PM EDT
[#31]
disreguard
Free Quoted:
It certainly wouldn't be a wise course of action. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:54:57 PM EDT
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There are no "registered" ARs in New York City since the time that David Dinkins was mayor.
He contacted every registered owner by mail and waned them to remove them all from within the city limits and that the police would be visiting to ensure compliance. The police never did visit. But as a result, there are no registered ARs or AKs in NYC for the cops to come looking for. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:55:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Good fucking luck.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:55:16 PM EDT
[#34]
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I am not saying I wouldn't give them up or that I am going out shooting, but I am not handing anything over with being paid fair value. There is a process by which the state can seize private property, but it involves due process and/or compensation. You have already lost....
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:55:59 PM EDT
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Yeah, I can see those orders going over like a fart in church. I'd bet more than half would just quit on the spot. The rest, well, I don't think they would like the result. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'd just like some clarification. Please list the instances where cops have refused similar orders. Please list any individual cops you are aware of in IL, MA, NY, CT, MD, CA, or other states who quit rather than enforce blatantly unConstitutional orders to seize weapons. Please list any cop shops that have refuse en masse to enforce such laws. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:57:58 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take. I'm sure many will be able to keep the bullets.............. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:58:46 PM EDT
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Yea alot of them will come down with terminal case of lead poisoning Free Really? You would forfeit your retirement and murder cops over a hobby? You would die from lethal injection, see your wife made penniless, see your children shamed? Isn't advocating cop killing on this board a permaban offense? |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:59:17 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take. ETA: I'm in the Ohio National Guard, If we get the order I am refusing it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 3:59:21 PM EDT
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It's tough for both sides. Police won't want to enforce this, but if people resist, then they will be labeled domestic terrorists. Then the hammer will come down on all terrorists, foreign and domestic.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:00:32 PM EDT
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Yea alot of them will come down with terminal case of lead poisoning Free Really? You would forfeit your retirement and murder cops over a hobby? You would die from lethal injection, see your wife made penniless, see your children shamed? Isn't advocating cop killing on this board a permaban offense? Over a what? 
Jeez, where do you guys keep coming from? |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:01:59 PM EDT
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I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take. A thief with a badge is still a thief. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:03:31 PM EDT
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Yea alot of them will come down with terminal case of lead poisoning Free Really? You would forfeit your retirement and murder cops over a hobby? You would die from lethal injection, see your wife made penniless, see your children shamed? Isn't advocating cop killing on this board a permaban offense? Over a what?
Jeez, where do you guys keep coming from? I wish I had the answer to that question. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:04:24 PM EDT
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ETA: I'm in the Ohio National Guard, If we get the order I am refusing it. Enjoy Leavenworth. I understand they allow trustees to work road details in the summer. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:05:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know a few local leo hoping they get to confiscate. They assume they will get to keep what they take. Guns they'll probably have to destroy, not like when they seize cars and homes from alleged drug dealers and sell them off to get more overtime and new police cars. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:05:14 PM EDT
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Yea alot of them will come down with terminal case of lead poisoning Free Really? You would forfeit your retirement and murder cops over a hobby? You would die from lethal injection, see your wife made penniless, see your children shamed? Isn't advocating cop killing on this board a permaban offense? Your lack of understanding is deep and broad. Wow. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:05:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ETA: I'm in the Ohio National Guard, If we get the order I am refusing it. Enjoy Leavenworth. I understand they allow trustees to work road details in the summer. Shut up |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:05:34 PM EDT
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Over a what?
Jeez, where do you guys keep coming from? Oh. I'm sorry. Is it a religion for you or something? Did JMB take a stroll on the water one day, then make the 1911? |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:05:54 PM EDT
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Yea alot of them will come down with terminal case of lead poisoning Free Really? You would forfeit your retirement and murder cops over a hobby? You would die from lethal injection, see your wife made penniless, see your children shamed? Isn't advocating cop killing on this board a permaban offense? The trolls arent even trying to hide it anymore. Obama won, go back to DU now. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:06:25 PM EDT
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At the point a so called government official comes to your door to take your firearms they are no longer law abiding citizens but criminals, no better than any thief. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:07:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: bluethers? You sound like your from the DU. Quoted: I could only imagine how much hell would be unleashed by the populace on the "enforcers". It would make Iraq look like kids play. not to mention if that started happening how much infrastructure would start magically shutting down.....entire power grids, water, sewage, trash control, communications, flights, you name it. NYC would be a jungle in about ten minutes it would be ugly very quick You're high. If they haven't done anything by now, they won't. In a related vein, I understand from the bluethers here that NO cops will enforce such an order, yet here are cops, pondering it. Hmmm. I am confused. Please shed some light, if you will. |
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