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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:20:40 PM EDT
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because they can't get their own shit together so they want someone else to do it for them.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:21:48 PM EDT
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Because the people we call "liberals" are not liberals.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:26:39 PM EDT
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Because rational people are willing/able to grow up. Liberals tend to want government to step in when they're not willing do something themselves.
It's why they support communism/socialism since those economic systems support they're desire to be remain miserable. On the elitist portion communism is meant to reduce economic competition by suppressing the middle class, being the most dynamic in any society. ie wake up and get ready for the day, commute to work, cook their own food, defend themselves, be self enterprising, raise their own kids with the same values, etc. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:27:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: because they can't get their own shit together so they want someone else to do it for them. and yet...
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:30:54 PM EDT
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Fear
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:32:23 PM EDT
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Because of a distinction that Kant made.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:34:24 PM EDT
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Fear This, along with an inherent lack of personal responsibility. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:35:25 PM EDT
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I define the modern 'Liberal' as one who BELIEVES Government is the ultimate solution for all social and economic problems. . The Liberal mindset does not trust the free individual to make informed decisions, but instinctively trusts the state with unlimited power.. Essentially, the Liberal doesn't trust the Individual, and so willingly cedes all power to the State. . Why does the Liberal fear Liberty ? You're talking more about Progressives, not liberals, but I think everyone knows what you mean. I think you mistake their motivation. It's not that they do or don't trust individuals; it's that they do trust the state, because they assume the state will answer to them. The only "freedoms" they care about is the "freedom" to take your shit at gunpoint and punish you for expressing an opinion that differs from theirs. And after that, what else do they really need? This is kind of like asking why a common street mugger fears the concept of being able to walk down the street without getting robbed. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:37:33 PM EDT
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Why do so many conservatives back bigger government?
Mysteries abound. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:38:41 PM EDT
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Because they are evil mother fuckers. Most are just a snazzy black outfit away from rounding people up to put in camps. Often we laugh or deride them but we shouldn't. They're dangerous.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:39:58 PM EDT
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why do conservatives want to regulate everyone's lives under the guise of morality?
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:42:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Like the freedom to kill babies.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:42:16 PM EDT
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How many liberals do you know that change their own oil? There's your explanation.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:44:29 PM EDT
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Because they are evil mother fuckers. Most are just a snazzy black outfit away from rounding people up to put in camps. Often we laugh or deride them but we shouldn't. They're dangerous. 
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:47:23 PM EDT
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It's not about fear. It's about control. Among leftist societies, there has always been the ruling elite. They live in luxury. They use intimidation, fear, and corruption to keep the populace under control and enrich themselves. Liberty of the populace weakens their control.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:47:26 PM EDT
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Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:55:03 PM EDT
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The FSA are simply voting for their interests. The liberals that work for a living are in a fantasy world. They think their position is the charitable one. All the people who are disadvantaged by one thing or another just need help. They'd work if they could. They can't help it that they don't have a job. They were born with inferior intelligence or have been born without the advantages of a loving family that people of means had in their childhood. Many of them didn't have a father when they were growing up. That affects a child in ways that put them at a disadvantage in the game of life. If they had a loving family they'd be productive members of society and pillars of their community. We should help them. I'm a good person because I want to help them. Everybody else should be forced to help them through legislation increasing the taxes of the fortunate people in our society.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:56:14 PM EDT
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freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the people we call "liberals" are not liberals. Of course, they never picture themselves as Winston Smith. In their fantasies, they're always O'Brien. "Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy - everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought, which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother." |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 6:58:08 PM EDT
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I define the modern 'Liberal' as one who BELIEVES Government is the ultimate solution for all social and economic problems. . The Liberal mindset does not trust the free individual to make informed decisions, but instinctively trusts the state with unlimited power.. Essentially, the Liberal doesn't trust the Individual, and so willingly cedes all power to the State. . Why does the Liberal fear Liberty ? I've looked and thought about this at length and come to the conclusion that they DON'T hate Liberty, per se, they just have a very divergent from reality view of it. They want Liberty very much. They're of the opinion that we can let our benevolent government masters take the reigns and they'll take care of us without intruding or becoming despotic. They never learned the lesson that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Also, they see themselves as the powerful bourgeoise atop a tall balcony handing down remarkable wisdom to the proletariat below them... Because Socialism and communism work, if only we would try it HERE! The problem is that most conservatives aren't exactly for Liberty either and would happily curtail as many personal liberties as they possibly could given the chance as long as the new rules don't impact them. Both sides language is remarkably similar if you remove the subject words, much as that of BLM jackassery and Neo Nazi silliness. They've determined that they should be able to do whatever it is they want, but those assholes over there, THEY need a law to stop them from doing THAT! One very interesting observation I've made, however, is the stark difference between hearing an opinion they don't agree with. Conservatives will change the channel, ignore the message, or ridicule the messenger. Liberals want that message to STOP immediately, and any means of making that person stop saying THAT are fully justified up to and including murder and mass genocide. If a Liberal does not like what you're saying, they dehumanize you to the point that killing you is as easy as stomping on a particularly troublesome junebug. Liberals howl free speech right up until someone says something they disagree with, then they're shocked someone might say something different, so kill them. If you don't think the other side would absolutely execute everyone disagreeing with them were they able, ya better think again. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:00:49 PM EDT
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freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit I'm sorry for my morality. So is John Adams. [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:06:02 PM EDT
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It's not about fear. It's about control. Among leftist societies, there has always been the ruling elite. They live in luxury. They use intimidation, fear, and corruption to keep the populace under control and enrich themselves. Liberty of the populace weakens their control. 
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:07:41 PM EDT
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....... Liberals howl free speech right up until someone says something they disagree with, then they're shocked someone might say something different, so kill them. If you don't think the other side would absolutely execute everyone disagreeing with them were they able, ya better think again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I define the modern 'Liberal' as one who BELIEVES Government is the ultimate solution for all social and economic problems. . The Liberal mindset does not trust the free individual to make informed decisions, but instinctively trusts the state with unlimited power.. Essentially, the Liberal doesn't trust the Individual, and so willingly cedes all power to the State. . Why does the Liberal fear Liberty ? ....... Liberals howl free speech right up until someone says something they disagree with, then they're shocked someone might say something different, so kill them. If you don't think the other side would absolutely execute everyone disagreeing with them were they able, ya better think again. Absolutely they would. And history proves this anytime Communism comes to power, the great purge also takes place and anybody of differing opinion is killed. That's the leftist wet dream is to someday have anyone who thinks different executed. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:09:25 PM EDT
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"Political tags — such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth — are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort."
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:11:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:20:11 PM EDT
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Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? I always find this specific issue quite humorous from both sides. Nice strawman, by the way. Connecting Gays marrying to acts that by their very nature go against what we would call rape or child abuse. I'm firmly in the camp of the separation of church and state. Religious nuts have shown time and again that they absolutely can not be trusted with the reigns of government, especially those with a plainly moronic literal interpretation of the Bible. At the same time, government should have no fucking say whatsoever on what the church likes, dislikes, accepts, or tells to piss off. I'm sure we can very much agree that marriage is a religious institution, and that the church or synagogue, etc should be the only one able to sanction "marriage." On this we agree, I'm sure. How about were it up to the government to hand out equal benefits of domestic partnership to any couple of consenting age, be they male male, male female, or female female and only the church that can marry people? See Conservatives will start shouting that those gays shouldn't be able to do that, so we need to stop them! We need another law and government intrusion into their bedroom! Liberals howl that the churches should be FORCED, at gunpoint if necessary, to marry people they don't agree with. So we need another law and government intrusion into people's lives! Me personally, I say fuck it, let the gays be miserable too and pay more in taxes by getting married, and if the church don't like that, they can tell the gays to fuck off and get a domestic partnership at the courthouse or a church that accepts them. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:32:56 PM EDT
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Because with liberty, comes responsibility.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:43:12 PM EDT
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I define the modern 'Liberal' as one who BELIEVES Government is the ultimate solution for all social and economic problems. . The Liberal mindset does not trust the free individual to make informed decisions, but instinctively trusts the state with unlimited power.. Essentially, the Liberal doesn't trust the Individual, and so willingly cedes all power to the State. . Why does the Liberal fear Liberty ? The same reason Conservatives give up their liberties to conserve them. Because they have no philosophy.... They assume their leaders understand them on a deep spiritual level, and that common virtues are shared, rather then a tool of control.... Utter ridiculousness. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:50:18 PM EDT
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Authoritarian follower mindset. Just like social conservatives.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:50:56 PM EDT
[#30]
The same reason republicans do. Liberty is in a sense lonely and uncomfortable and not many people can tolerate it. They need big brother to hold them, and keep them safe.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:50:58 PM EDT
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they love the freedom to commit infanticide.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry for my morality. So is John Adams. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit I'm sorry for my morality. So is John Adams. [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Keep your morality to yourself, and we have no problem. You have no right to coerce or force others to live as you see fit, should they not harm you in doing so. Thomas Paine was more right than Adams. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:53:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? Consenting adults doing things that don't affect you, verses things that have innocent or unwilling victims. I just sorted out all your stupid strawmen. You're welcome. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:54:16 PM EDT
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It's not exclusive to one party they both hate not telling people what to do. It's what government does.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 7:59:39 PM EDT
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Baseless overly high self opinion requires a villain to explain their failure in life. Every villain needs a superhero to punish them, that hero is .gov.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:01:10 PM EDT
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Baseless overly high self opinion requires a villain to explain their failure in life. Every villain needs a superhero to punish them, that hero is .gov. That sounds like a Leo recruiting slogan. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:03:11 PM EDT
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Because they're better, smarter, fairer, and less racist than you... So they deserve to rule you. (just ask them)
And by God, they're going to do it, or you're going to die trying to resist them... Just like every other Glorious Workers Socialist Revolution in history. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:03:57 PM EDT
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That sounds like a Leo recruiting slogan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Baseless overly high self opinion requires a villain to explain their failure in life. Every villain needs a superhero to punish them, that hero is .gov. That sounds like a Leo recruiting slogan. I thought I might shoehorn it into a Haiku... I hate typing on this tablet. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:09:15 PM EDT
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"The Affordable Care Act makes poor people more free. You can't be free if you're dying of a disease."
That is their logic. Nevermind the means, the ends justify theft, threats, assault, and ultimately murder of peaceful people. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:11:50 PM EDT
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Consenting adults doing things that don't affect you, verses things that have innocent or unwilling victims. I just sorted out all your stupid strawmen. You're welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? Consenting adults doing things that don't affect you, verses things that have innocent or unwilling victims. I just sorted out all your stupid strawmen. You're welcome. No you didn't! You are implying that consenting people are adults. And the definition of adult is made by a law. A law that impedes your freedom to be an adult until you have reached an age set forth by the government. You are using a restriction in liberty to justify an argument and therefore are a hypocrite. This same enfringment won't allow some people to even drink certain beverages until they reached an age set forth by a government restrictive law. Nice try though. By the way. I could care less if gays get married, good for them. Doesn't make any difference to me. I do believe in Liberty. Yep , I am a Christian. But that's my business and nobody else's. and what others do is there business not mine. However while I don't care what the gays do, it doesn't mean I have to like them. But as long as they ain't knocking at my door screaming for my acceptance , or telling my kids at school that I'm wrong for raising them different than we won't have any problems. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:16:51 PM EDT
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Keep your morality to yourself, and we have no problem. You have no right to coerce or force others to live as you see fit, should they not harm you in doing so. Thomas Paine was more right than Adams. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like the freedom to kill babies. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile freedom to not have your phone tapped, freedom to marry whoever the fuck you want...all the social policies that are destroying the republican party... all because of this "Christian values" or morality horse shit I'm sorry for my morality. So is John Adams. [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Keep your morality to yourself, and we have no problem. You have no right to coerce or force others to live as you see fit, should they not harm you in doing so. Thomas Paine was more right than Adams. The point was, that moral standards are not the source for the downfall of the Republican, nor any, party. The argument is that the lack of morality, en masse, is the source for the destruction. BTW, the Red and blue don't corroborate. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:26:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because with liberty, comes responsibility. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:26:54 PM EDT
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Because the people we call "liberals" are not liberals. Ding. Our "liberals" are actually communists. And they call themselves "progressives" now, since they destroyed the liberal brand already. Much like everything touched by a filthy commie. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:28:12 PM EDT
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Because they are evil mother fuckers. Most are just a snazzy black outfit away from rounding people up to put in camps. Often we laugh or deride them but we shouldn't. They're dangerous. Found one! |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:29:04 PM EDT
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Morals and societal mores drive our laws.
Without a yardstick, or some sense of what is "right" and what is "wrong" you're standing on quicksand. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:30:08 PM EDT
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Fear of accountability.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:31:32 PM EDT
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Because the people we call "liberals" are not liberals. This As I see it, we might as refer to the democrat party as the socialist party of America. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:31:37 PM EDT
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Morals and societal mores drive our laws. Without a yardstick, or some sense of what is "right" and what is "wrong" you're standing on quicksand. I have my own code of justice. Like the man with no name 
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:57:23 PM EDT
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They value equality of outcome above liberty. Liberty leads to inequality of outcome. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:59:08 PM EDT
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I always find this specific issue quite humorous from both sides. Nice strawman, by the way. Connecting Gays marrying to acts that by their very nature go against what we would call rape or child abuse. I'm firmly in the camp of the separation of church and state. Religious nuts have shown time and again that they absolutely can not be trusted with the reigns of government, especially those with a plainly moronic literal interpretation of the Bible. At the same time, government should have no fucking say whatsoever on what the church likes, dislikes, accepts, or tells to piss off. I'm sure we can very much agree that marriage is a religious institution, and that the church or synagogue, etc should be the only one able to sanction "marriage." On this we agree, I'm sure. How about were it up to the government to hand out equal benefits of domestic partnership to any couple of consenting age, be they male male, male female, or female female and only the church that can marry people? See Conservatives will start shouting that those gays shouldn't be able to do that, so we need to stop them! We need another law and government intrusion into their bedroom! Liberals howl that the churches should be FORCED, at gunpoint if necessary, to marry people they don't agree with. So we need another law and government intrusion into people's lives! Me personally, I say fuck it, let the gays be miserable too and pay more in taxes by getting married, and if the church don't like that, they can tell the gays to fuck off and get a domestic partnership at the courthouse or a church that accepts them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because you have to draw a hard line somewhere. Or you open the door to continuing downward spirals until nothing is off limits. You say conservative morality is horse shit and shouldn't be considered. So where do YOU draw the line? People legally marrying animals? Sex with animals? Sex with children? Sex with infants? Are these things ok with you? Is that the country you want to live in? After all if we don't allow people to do these things I mentioned, then aren't we just being Christian horse shit morality police? I always find this specific issue quite humorous from both sides. Nice strawman, by the way. Connecting Gays marrying to acts that by their very nature go against what we would call rape or child abuse. I'm firmly in the camp of the separation of church and state. Religious nuts have shown time and again that they absolutely can not be trusted with the reigns of government, especially those with a plainly moronic literal interpretation of the Bible. At the same time, government should have no fucking say whatsoever on what the church likes, dislikes, accepts, or tells to piss off. I'm sure we can very much agree that marriage is a religious institution, and that the church or synagogue, etc should be the only one able to sanction "marriage." On this we agree, I'm sure. How about were it up to the government to hand out equal benefits of domestic partnership to any couple of consenting age, be they male male, male female, or female female and only the church that can marry people? See Conservatives will start shouting that those gays shouldn't be able to do that, so we need to stop them! We need another law and government intrusion into their bedroom! Liberals howl that the churches should be FORCED, at gunpoint if necessary, to marry people they don't agree with. So we need another law and government intrusion into people's lives! Me personally, I say fuck it, let the gays be miserable too and pay more in taxes by getting married, and if the church don't like that, they can tell the gays to fuck off and get a domestic partnership at the courthouse or a church that accepts them. I am an Atheist, but I recognize the freedom hating democratic fraud machine's need to destroy the concept of God in order to to weaken those inalienable rights we hold self evident. Once they establish that our rights are granted by the government & not God, it's game over / checkmate. |
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