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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:46:03 PM EDT
A team of DEA agents raided a house hours before they applied for a search warrant. 7th Cir.: "We do not condone this illegal behavior by law enforcement," but the agents did get a warrant after the search, so no need to suppress the evidence they found inside the house. 
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:48:11 PM EDT
[#1]
That’s bullshit
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:49:28 PM EDT
[#2]
"Fourth Amendment? What's that?"
-US Courts |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:49:34 PM EDT
[#3]
I knew the 4th was dead, but they're raping its corpse on the dining room table now.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:49:45 PM EDT
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Well what’s the fucking point of having laws then?
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:50:19 PM EDT
[#5]
The time for the 2A to really make it's meaning clear fast approaches.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:50:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Clown world.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:50:34 PM EDT
[#7]
If your reward illegal behavior you do condone it.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:51:13 PM EDT
[#8]
I’d need more info before developing an opinion
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:51:58 PM EDT
[#9]
It’s going to be suppressors and SBRs next. “No need to suppress the evidence since we obtained records after the fact”
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:51:58 PM EDT
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Well what’s the fucking point of having laws then? |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:52:15 PM EDT
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I knew the 4th was dead, but they're raping its corpse on the dining room table now. 
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:52:59 PM EDT
[#12]
"Friut of the poisonous tree" no longer applies.
So the Rule of Law is truly dead. |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:53:03 PM EDT
[#13]
That's fucking insane.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:54:15 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And allowing a half-hour to draw a crowd to watch. |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:54:20 PM EDT
[#15]
Holy shit that’s some juicy fruit.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:54:53 PM EDT
[#16]
"If it gits one of dem dopers".
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:55:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well what’s the fucking point of having laws then? |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:55:38 PM EDT
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I'd need more info before developing an opinion They weren't vague at all. Basically, They were thinking about not breaking the law so it's all good |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:56:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:56:40 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well what’s the fucking point of having laws then? |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:56:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://i.imgur.com/nerhTwY.png 
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:57:11 PM EDT
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Well, you have the court's opinion so what else do b you need. They weren't vague at all. Basically, They were thinking about not breaking the law so it's all good Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd need more info before developing an opinion They weren't vague at all. Basically, They were thinking about not breaking the law so it's all good |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:57:17 PM EDT
[#23]
So breaking and entering. Respond appropriately.
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if they did an undercover buy in his front yard and when the deal was made and they tried to arrest him he then got away and ran back in his house and locked the door? Would your opinion change if they chased him in the house and happened to see a pile of meth on his table while arresting him? I could be way off base but I hope I'm not because if so, this is pretty bad. And I haven't read the fine print so who knows. I'm just saying I think there's more to the story. They would've had probable cause at least to enter |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:57:40 PM EDT
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National security? If not, very disturbing......
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:58:12 PM EDT
[#26]
lol
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
If your reward illegal behavior you do condone it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:59:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "...the better practice is to obtain the warrant before entering the home" |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:59:12 PM EDT
[#29]
 
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:59:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In that case they wouldn't have used the word illegal. They would've had probable cause at least to enter Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What if they did an undercover buy in his front yard and when the deal was made and they tried to arrest him he then got away and ran back in his house and locked the door? Would your opinion change if they chased him in the house and happened to see a pile of meth on his table while arresting him? I could be way off base but I hope I'm not because if so, this is pretty bad. And I haven't read the fine print so who knows. I'm just saying I think there's more to the story. They would've had probable cause at least to enter |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 11:59:24 PM EDT
[#31]
 Steppenwolf - Don't Step On The Grass, Sam |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:00:12 AM EDT
[#32]
You have to be fucking shitting me
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if they did an undercover buy in his front yard and when the deal was made and they tried to arrest him he then got away and ran back in his house and locked the door? Would your opinion change if they chased him in the house and happened to see a pile of meth on his table while arresting him? I could be way off base but I hope I’m not because if so, this is pretty bad. And I haven’t read the fine print so who knows. I’m just saying I think there’s more to the story. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:00:50 AM EDT
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We are either a land of laws or we are not. Which is it?
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:00:56 AM EDT
[#35]
Morons and activists in the judiciary are literally and figuratively killing this country.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:01:36 AM EDT
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Is there a reason we’re only getting bits and pieces of the story instead of a link with all/most of the facts?
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:01:40 AM EDT
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We are either a land of laws or we are not. Which is it? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:01:44 AM EDT
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Due process is reduced to a "best practice". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: "...the better practice is to obtain the warrant before entering the home" |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:02:14 AM EDT
[#39]
Your daily reminder that there is no rule of law.
There is no constitution and no 2A. There is only mob rule. Act accordingly. Been saying it for a long time. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:02:19 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We are either a land of laws or we are not. Which is it? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:02:20 AM EDT
[#41]
Bulldozers
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:03:36 AM EDT
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You could play ‘what if’ all day. But to give you my uneducated answer, I believe in both those scenarios it would be legal to arrest him and anything in plain view would be admissible. Still need a warrant to search the the rest of the house? I don’t know. But that isn’t what happened. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:04:10 AM EDT
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I’d need more info before developing an opinion |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:04:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d like to know the circumstances of them entering the house. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:05:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It says they saw drugs in his kitchen which makes me think it’s in plain view. Maybe they saw it from outside a window and worried that he would destroy the evidence before a warrant could be obtained. You are completely right, there are lots of what ifs. I’d like to know the full story before developing an opinion. Otherwise I’d be just like the “my baby didn’t do nuffin” mommas that we all think are retarded. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:06:32 AM EDT
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Okay... so the police no longer feel the need to follow the 4th amendment, but I think we can still count on them following the Constitution when it comes to the second.
Right? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like I need to make fake drugs, put them on a table and hope fascist idiots break into my house to investigate. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:06:57 AM EDT
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It says they saw drugs in his kitchen which makes me think it’s in plain view. Maybe they saw it from outside a window and worried that he would destroy the evidence before a warrant could be obtained. You are completely right, there are lots of what ifs. I’d like to know the full story before developing an opinion. Otherwise I’d be just like the “my baby didn’t do nuffin” mommas that we all think are retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could play ‘what if’ all day. But to give you my uneducated answer, I believe in both those scenarios it would be legal to arrest him and anything in plain view would be admissible. Still need a warrant to search the the rest of the house? I don’t know. But that isn’t what happened. |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:07:10 AM EDT
[#49]
i wonder if they realize the reason they need a warrant is because without one, they are breaking into the house illegally, which means the homeowner has every right to shoot every single one of them and would not be charged with homicide. the warrant is to protect them just as much to protect the homeowner.
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Posted: 6/6/2019 12:07:37 AM EDT
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The time for the 2A to really make it's meaning clear fast approaches.  I hope some feds run a warrantless search of his home and kill his dog accidentally - see how he feels about that bullshit then.
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