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Posted: 11/28/2019 11:10:17 AM EDT

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/erpo

https://www.nycourts.gov/legacypdfs/forms/erpo/Application_Temporary_ERPO_(UCS-6341)_fillable.pdf

I looked briefly for one that had been filed, but didn't find it even though I know there have been some, I'll look again later

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:11:59 AM EDT

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Lol someone can file a petition to take your guns without revealing their name or address.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:12:46 AM EDT

[#2]

Red false flag time

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:12:54 AM EDT

[#3]

Something something fuck due process, something something take the guns.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:13:14 AM EDT

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Sounds like we have some work to do...

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:14:08 AM EDT

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A threat or act of violence or use of physical force directed toward self, the petitioner, or another person;
A violation or alleged violation of an Order of Protection;
A pending charge or conviction for an offense involving the use of a weapon;
The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun;
A history of a violation of an Extreme Risk Protection Order;
Evidence of recent or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol;
Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any
ammunition therefor;
Other (specify)

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:18:20 AM EDT

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It would be tragic if politicians who voted for RFL and their donors were erroneously the subject of said petitions.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:26:14 AM EDT

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A threat or act of violence or use of physical force directed toward self, the petitioner, or another person;
A violation or alleged violation of an Order of Protection;
A pending charge or conviction for an offense involving the use of a weapon;
The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun;
A history of a violation of an Extreme Risk Protection Order;
Evidence of recent or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol;
Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any
ammunition therefor;
Other (specify)

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Any common purchase. Ridiculous.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:27:07 AM EDT

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It would be tragic if politicians who voted for RFL and their donors were erroneously the subject of said petitions.

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Lol someone can file a petition to take your guns without revealing their name or address.

It would be tragic if politicians who voted for RFL and their donors were erroneously the subject of said petitions.

Would be a shame if someone used a list of registered Democrat voters and mass produced red flag reports

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:27:40 AM EDT

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wow

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:30:25 AM EDT

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By law, the court clerk must charge a $210 fee to assign an index number to a Supreme Court case.

of course.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:31:39 AM EDT

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Any common purchase. Ridiculous.

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Didn't Fredo aka Chris should have been a cum stain like his older brother Cuomo violate # 1 a few months back when he threatened a guy who confronted him and called him Fredo. I wonder if Chris owns a gun.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:33:21 AM EDT

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Wow that seems ripe for abuse and taking up lots of resources........

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:33:25 AM EDT

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Citizens snitching on citizens, government men coming in the night and taking you, no evidence, no due process....Very 1950s Iron Curtain.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:33:44 AM EDT

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For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:34:00 AM EDT

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Wait until the Fudds start getting these and having their $100K collections taken and disposed of, then it’ll get real.

Theirs lots of room their for swatting and false flag ops to make martyrs.

Very dangerous

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:35:12 AM EDT

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If enough of those petitions are filed, especially with no name required, that overwhelm their system, would they rethink the "law"?

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:35:38 AM EDT

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Our country was founded by people who shot at people who were trying to take their guns.

If someone trying to take your guns isn't justification for using them I don't know what is.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:35:41 AM EDT

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Yup

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:36:06 AM EDT

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A threat or act of violence or use of physical force directed toward self, the petitioner, or another person;
A violation or alleged violation of an Order of Protection;
A pending charge or conviction for an offense involving the use of a weapon;
The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun;
A history of a violation of an Extreme Risk Protection Order;
Evidence of recent or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol;
Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any
ammunition therefor;
Other (specify)

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Wow.

So you could tune up somebody who can't keep their hands to themselves and get red flagged.

OR, just warn somebody to keep their hands off you, or you'll kick their ass.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:36:25 AM EDT

[#20]

There's only 11 spaces.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:37:52 AM EDT

[#21]

Just file one on everyone who threatens the president in NY.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:38:55 AM EDT

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Wow.

So you could tune up somebody who can't keep their hands to themselves and get red flagged.

OR, just warn somebody to keep their hands off you, or you'll kick their ass.

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A threat or act of violence or use of physical force directed toward self, the petitioner, or another person;
A violation or alleged violation of an Order of Protection;
A pending charge or conviction for an offense involving the use of a weapon;
The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun;
A history of a violation of an Extreme Risk Protection Order;
Evidence of recent or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol;
Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any
ammunition therefor;
Other (specify)

Wow.

So you could tune up somebody who can't keep their hands to themselves and get red flagged.

OR, just warn somebody to keep their hands off you, or you'll kick their ass.

Evidence of recent acquisition of...ammunition.

Buy a box of 9mm, justification for being attacked by the redcoats.

But since no evidence is required anyway, that's really just a list of things to make up.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:42:32 AM EDT

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Is there any process of accountability? I mean,do they keep track of these to see who had one taken out on them and if it was investigated? Who decides whether one is unworthy of investigation?

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:42:41 AM EDT

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Lol someone can file a petition to take your guns without revealing their name or address.

It would be tragic if politicians who voted for RFL and their donors were erroneously the subject of said petitions.

Application would be crumpled up and lost.

I'd imagine it would be hard to check on the status if you remain anonymous.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:43:18 AM EDT

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The district attorney has been paying that fee I think

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:44:47 AM EDT

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Is there any process of accountability? I mean,do they keep track of these to see who had one taken out on them and if it was investigated? Who decides whether one is unworthy of investigation?

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After it is filed the cops and DA go to the judge and explain uwhat a menace you are before, surprise Buttsex, heading to your house with a court order

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:45:40 AM EDT

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Evidence of recent acquisition of...ammunition.

Buy a box of 9mm, justification for being attacked by the redcoats.

But since no evidence is required anyway, that's really just a list of things to make up.

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That's terrible.

I usually buy ammo every week. Everybody in the county has probably seen me buying ammo.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:45:56 AM EDT

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Citizens snitching on citizens, government men coming in the night and taking you, no evidence, no due process....Very 1950s Iron Curtain.

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Very Gulag Archipelago

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:47:35 AM EDT

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Uh, petitioner has to sign at top n' bottom.

EDIT: I missed the checkbox that redacts petitioner's name. Aimless is right.

That said, you threatened to kick someone's ass ten years ago......payback is here.

That's the enemy, plain and simple. It's a good thing I sold all my guns at a gun show.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:48:38 AM EDT

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Wow.

So you could tune up somebody who can't keep their hands to themselves and get red flagged.

OR, just warn somebody to keep their hands off you, or you'll kick their ass.

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A threat or act of violence or use of physical force directed toward self, the petitioner, or another person;
A violation or alleged violation of an Order of Protection;
A pending charge or conviction for an offense involving the use of a weapon;
The reckless use, display or brandishing of a firearm, rifle or shotgun;
A history of a violation of an Extreme Risk Protection Order;
Evidence of recent or ongoing abuse of controlled substances or alcohol;
Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any
ammunition therefor;
Other (specify)

Wow.

So you could tune up somebody who can't keep their hands to themselves and get red flagged.

OR, just warn somebody to keep their hands off you, or you'll kick their ass.

Or, evidently all it takes is recently acquiring a gun.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:49:14 AM EDT

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Alcohol abuse is an awfully subjective medical issue.

I sure feel safer knowing that everyone that likes beer can be stripped of their rights.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:50:21 AM EDT

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For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

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By that wording, buying a CAR can meet the requirements(dangerous instrument)

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:50:42 AM EDT

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That's nice what happened to a citizen's right to confront their accusers?

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:52:58 AM EDT

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Learned something new today.

Acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor is a behavior.

Also learned that I may have to get really, really close to the icky guns, and maybe even handle them, to get their serial numbers.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:53:03 AM EDT

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Citizens snitching on citizens, government men coming in the night and taking you, no evidence, no due process....Very 1950s Iron Curtain.

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Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn saw this coming many years ago and opted to go back to Russia...rather than stay here.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:54:17 AM EDT

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Or, evidently all it takes is recently acquiring a gun.

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Not even that. Just ammo

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:54:30 AM EDT

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I showed this to my dad, a man that fled the DDR before the Berlin wall came down. He could only shake his head and say modern leftists will be recruiting for the secret police shortly.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:54:54 AM EDT

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Well, time to file one on every politician, reporter, police chief, judge, county official, etc etc....

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:55:04 AM EDT

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How is this even slightly constitutional?

Red flag everything.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:57:42 AM EDT

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Alcohol abuse is an awfully subjective medical issue.

I sure feel safer knowing that everyone that likes beer can be stripped of their rights.

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Wait for everyone who gets an open container, DUI, DWAI, dis con or whatever to be de facto prohibited. In NY most of that would prevent you from getting a pistol license and owning handguns, but now that standard will apply to everything and they'll enforce it by kicking your door in.

Posted: 11/28/2019 11:57:55 AM EDT

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^ THIS ^

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:01:14 PM EDT

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For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

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Lol someone can file a petition to take your guns without revealing their name or address.

For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

No INFRINGING there, No sir, no INFRINGING at all.

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:02:17 PM EDT

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Any common purchase. Ridiculous.

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At some point it said "in connection with any of the aforementioned." Meaning if you saw someone abusing drugs and they went and bought a gun you should check both boxes to indicate there was an imminent developing threat, just buying isn't reportable.

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:06:52 PM EDT

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Lol someone can file a petition to take your guns without revealing their name or address.

It would be tragic if politicians who voted for RFL and their donors were erroneously the subject of said petitions.

I'm sure they immunized themselves from it, they usually do....

...their staffers on the other hand.

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:08:31 PM EDT

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"Hi Court and Police...…..Aimless is a threat and has guns!!

"I choose to not give my name."

Six O'clock News: "Breaking Bombshell story...…..a man named Aimless has had his firearms arsenal confiscated and is in custody pending bail hearing...……."

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:12:26 PM EDT

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For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

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Better hope your mailman isn't an anti.

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:12:34 PM EDT

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By that wording, buying a CAR can meet the requirements(dangerous instrument)

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For 'Evidence of recent acquisition of a firearm, rifle, shotgun or other deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or any ammunition therefor'.

So if you buy a firearm, or bullets...they can come and take all your shit.

Jesus....

By that wording, buying a CAR can meet the requirements(dangerous instrument)

Kitchen knife

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:13:29 PM EDT

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Attached File

Thanks. This answers a question I was sure I knew the answer to.

Oh, and no ex-spouses in the
Family or household member of the respondent, as defined in Social Services Law §459-a block?