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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:48:57 PM EDT
[#1]
The past is another country. They do things differently there.
That said if you, as a man had fought, scratched and clawed your way into one of the boats. You would probably be internationally famous for your cowardly actions once Carpathia got to port. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:49:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Rose could have scooted her ass over and made room for Jack on that stupid door she was floating on.
Fuckin' bitch. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:51:22 PM EDT
[#3]
There were no feminist on the Titanic.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:52:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rose could have scooted her ass over and made room for Jack on that stupid door she was floating on. Fuckin' bitch.  Hey, there's |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:54:48 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm a fucking boomer so honor and dignity are still a thing for me. Yeah, I'd save women and children first. And then old folks, especially rich ones cuz afterwards? Yeah, I'm gonna expect some compensation. If I survive.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:55:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rose could have scooted her ass over and made room for Jack on that stupid door she was floating on. Fuckin' bitch. With that thicc ass? Maybe not... |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:58:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a fucking boomer so honor and dignity are still a thing for me. Yeah, I'd save women and children first. And then old folks, especially rich ones cuz afterwards? Yeah, I'm gonna expect some compensation. If I survive. This. I also spent many years in the military and would have willingly died for it too, so yes. I would sacrifice myself for children. And the right women. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:02:18 PM EDT
[#8]
I once said, every man believes in the adage of "Women and children first!” when they’re standing on the dock.
Once you're waist deep in the Atlantic on the deck of the Titanic, you might be surprised at how many guys will put on a dress and try to Billy Zane their way into a lifeboat. The Birkenhead Drill isn’t for pussies. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:04:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Different era…honor, dignity, decorum all meant something. Notice pictures from that era with most men wearing jacket, hat and tie. Ladies never went out unless properly attired. Compare and contrast to what we have today.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:05:16 PM EDT
[#10]
If you are locked up in the steerage section you might not have the choice.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:07:42 PM EDT
[#11]
As a former HT, I've thought about this over and over.
I understand the bulkheads were not water tight. I get that they had "gaps" at the top for air flow. The question that lingers with me, could there have been a way to create a water tight bulkhead after the fact..? I would like to think I could have mobilized the men and that fucking band to stuff mattresses and get us a fighting chance or die trying. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:10:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I would have grabbed a dinning table they would have been better than a door.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:11:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rose could have scooted her ass over and made room for Jack on that stupid door she was floating on. Fuckin' bitch. Rose was rotten selfish cunt. If she just would have stayed on the first life boat jack would have had the door all to himself. Cal and Lovejoy could have just paid their way on to one of Murdoch's boats like they intended. She was directly responsible Jack's and Lovejoy's death that night. That selfishness followed her her whole life. The bitch just throws the dimond away knowing full well what it could have done to help her caretaking granddaughter. After the movie implies she died at the end look at all the pictures of herself (not her family) she had at her bedside. Let's not forget just leaving her mother high and dry after presumably spending the last of their family money to keep her in good graces with the high society while she was trying to find a wealthy husband. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:12:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As a former HT, I've thought about this over and over. I understand the bulkheads were not water tight. I get that they had "gaps" at the top for air flow. The question that lingers with me, could there have been a way to create a water tight bulkhead after the fact..? I would like to think I could have mobilized the men and that fucking band to stuff mattresses and get us a fighting chance or die trying. With a full wooden interior and a carpenter's shop on board I think a few more floating things could have been fashioned. Nobody treated the sinking as serious until it was too late to launch lifeboats full from both sides. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:13:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Read up on “The Birkenhead Drill”. Different times and better men.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:17:17 PM EDT
[#16]
I don't know. Id' like to think so.
You'd probably freeze before you got the chance to drown, but there was a different class of men back then. ETA: And women. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:17:50 PM EDT
[#17]
I’m making my way to the buffet line, no one will be there and its all you can eat for the rest of your life!
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:18:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Heck, if such a thing would happen today I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to hear that the men had shot the women, children and the crew then pitched them into the ocean before even launching the boats.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:21:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted: "Women and Children",..first. Would you actualy Drown for them. Hypothermia is more likely. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:22:25 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With a full wooden interior and a carpenter's shop on board I think a few more floating things could have been fashioned. Nobody treated the sinking as serious until it was too late to launch lifeboats full from both sides. I just can't wrap my head around it, logically thinking... the average person has zero idea how to jump into action at the least expected time, amidst a chaotic situation nonetheless. I've read many daring acts carried out at sea, I've spent time in the middle of the ocean and I can understand how non seafaring folks can panic quick.. I had a panic attack once, I was below the waterline under an engine room, welding. My light went black, absolutely no room to turn over, couldn't see my hand in front of my face. Then the thought of another ship ramming into us and getting stuck sent me into a slight panic. I never told anyone that, but fuck..getting crushed and drowning sounds wretched. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:24:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hypothermia is more likely. Hypothermia would cause you to have slow reaction, sink and drown. So I heard. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:24:29 PM EDT
[#22]
There is a story about a drunk crew member that survived the night.
Here we go... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:24:48 PM EDT
[#23]
Children and pregnant women.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:25:33 PM EDT
[#24]
That would have sucked. Drownings bad at whatever depth but especially in some bottomless abyss, knowing you would be food for some creepy Greenland shark.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:26:11 PM EDT
[#25]
We're all going to die sometime. I would rather go meet God, Jesus, and my WWII veteran Marine Corps father as someone who sacrificed his life to save women and children than I would as a coward who saved himself at the expense of women and children.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:26:42 PM EDT
[#26]
What always got me was why didn’t they ask the men in the undercarriage (?) to start building any flotation device they could out of doors, etc.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:27:30 PM EDT
[#27]
If that happened today you could hop aboard one of the thicccccc asses and stay afloat!
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:27:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:29:14 PM EDT
[#29]
 Attached FileBut yes, I would drown or go out in my own way if it meant a woman or child would live. An honorable end in anyone's book. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:29:41 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: "Women and Children",..first. Would you actualy Drown for them. Have you seen the passengers on a Carnival Cruise? It's a floating Walmart. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:30:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: "Women and Children",..first. Would you actualy Drown for them. The richest man in the world did. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:31:47 PM EDT
[#32]
I would like to see a modern day sequel set on a budget cruise line by netflix of course.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:33:10 PM EDT
[#33]
They were gonna jump anyway, the band sucked
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:34:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Times have changed, but my upbringing hasn't. Women and children first.
Unless I get a "I don't need your help!" feminist. When she finally realizes that she made a mistake I'll wave from the lifeboat. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:34:56 PM EDT
[#35]
Since we're going back in time. I would have said, hey Cap'n how's about we cut this F'n locker open and give our lookouts some binoculars.
I'd like to think women and children first, don't know how it would have played out had my ass dipped below the waterline. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:36:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know. Id' like to think so. You'd probably freeze before you got the chance to drown, but there was a different class of men back then. ETA: And women. To take your chance in the thick of a rush, with firing all about, Is nothing so bad when you've cover to 'and, an' leave an' likin' to shout; But to stand an' be still to the Birken'ead drill is a damn tough bullet to chew, An' they done it, the Jollies—'Er Majesty's Jollies—soldier an' sailor too! Their work was done when it 'adn't begun; they was younger nor me an' you; Their choice it was plain between drownin' in 'eaps an' bein' mopped by the screw, So they stood an' was still to the Birken'ead drill, (2) soldier an' sailor too! |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:37:26 PM EDT
[#37]
Women and children first, 100%, but you better be damned I'd be getting on those first boats that were damn near empty.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:38:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryImagine all the trannies knocking people out left and right to claim their seat on the rescue boats. 
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:41:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Scratch that. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:42:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The richest man in the world did. "We're dressed in our finest, and prepared to die as gentlemen. I would like a brandy, though." |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:42:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would like to think I could have mobilized the men and that fucking band to stuff mattresses and get us a fighting chance or die trying. I always wondered about dropping things over the damaged side, like a weighted tarp or some such, to let the water pressure seal the crack... slow the water down, anyways. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:43:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's amazing that the captain survived. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:44:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The captain went down. The White Star exec survived. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's amazing that the captain survived. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:45:38 PM EDT
[#44]
I'd be making a raft out of deck chairs.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:45:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Scratch that. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:48:17 PM EDT
[#46]
'To stand and be still
to the Birken'ead Drill is a damn tough bullet to chew'. -Kipling A bit of reading for those not inclined to read history. https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Women-Children-First/ |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:50:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Women and children first, 100%, but you better be damned I'd be getting on those first boats that were damn near empty. I'm surprised more didn't make a calculated choice to jump and swim to a boat earlier in the evacuation after seeing there was room to be had. Titanic had a height from water line to Boat Deck of 60 feet. Doable. Scary, but doable.  Steve Aoki 60 ft. Cliff Jump in Ibiza |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:51:11 PM EDT
[#48]
I'll build a damn raft out of fat chicks and set sail.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:52:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: "Women and Children",..first. Would you actualy Drown for them. Actually... Can a woman be defined in these current times? I can see if it is your woman but there is that pickle surprise thang. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 8:52:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Scratch that. Charles Lightoller. 2nd Officer, did survive. It was he who spent the night atop a capsized collapsible lifeboat. He had a distinguished career in the British Navy, retired, and participated in the "Miracle of Dunkirk." His experience there was mirrored in Nolan's movie as the owner of the sailboat featured therein. |
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