Hearing it was on their second attempt to land.


A Cessna C550 business jet had left Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas. The plane crashed around 4:15 am near French Valley Airport in Murrieta, California, on Saturday




Six people have died after a private plane crashed into a California field and burst into flames.

The flight had left Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas and crashed near French Valley Airport in Murrieta, California, around 4:15 am Saturday, according to KTLA.

The plane burst into flames when it crashed and video from the scene showed the charge fuselage.


The flight was a Cessna C550 business jet.

There was no word on what caused the crashed or the names of the people who died.








'Deputies located an aircraft fully engulfed,' the Riverside County Sheriff's Department stated about eh crash. 'Six occupants from the plane were located and pronounced deceased at the scene.'

It took firefighters about an hour to extinguish the brush fire that ignited after the plane crashed, officials said.

The National Transportation Safety Board will investigate the incident.

“Preliminary information indicates…the airplane crashed short of French Valley Airport during its second approach around 4:15 a.m.,” a spokesperson for the NTSB said.







It is the second airplane crash near French Valley Airport in a week




On July 4, a plane crashed at the same airport shortly after takeoff. In that incident, one person died and three people were injured.



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The Citation 500 series are a very forgiving aircraft if you respect their limitations.
I have lots of time in the 550, 560, and 650.

Dang! I was just at that airport 3 weeks ago. That’s wild.

In before "associate of the Clintons/Bidens/Epstein"

Dude! I was there about a month ago. I’m doing okay, thankfully

I drive a 560 so will be waiting for the NTSB info.

Pilot error I suspect but time will tell.

Anyone know the N number?

Harry Reid rated an airport?

N819KR Cessna Citation II

So we don't know anything about this yet, but when you read a statement like this it's almost never good...

It’s Las Vegas.  They do that.  Its fucking annoying.

N819KR

Seems to have been very active this week.
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Equipment failure?
Pilot fatigue?

It could be nearly anything at this point without an investigation

It does look like a fresh paint job. I can't find pics online with the red tail livery, all the standard white paint.

https://www.aircraft.com/aircraft/208935521/n819kr-1979-cessna-citation-ii

It was foggy and visibility was shit in the footage from there this morning.

From the blancolirio YouTube

He got the goombas out and he was vital to the introduction of a free market economy in Vegas.
not a small ding

WOW

415 AM PDT is 1115 UTC (Z)

METAR data

KF70 081135Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 081115Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 081055Z AUTO 00000KT 3/4SM BR OVC003 11/11 A2985 RMK AO2

RVAV (GPS) Rwy 18 approach

Looks like the best visibility requirement is 7/8 mile and it was 1/2 mile at 4:15 AM PDT.  Someone should verify the applicable minimums for that aircraft.

Text:KF70 081115Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
Temperature:12.0°C ( 54°F)
Dewpoint:12.0°C ( 54°F) [RH = 100%]
Pressure (altimeter):29.86 inches Hg (1011.3 mb)
Winds:calm
Visibility:0.50 sm ( 0.80 km)
Ceiling:300 feet AGL
Clouds:overcast cloud deck at 300 feet AGL
Weather:FG (fog)
QC Flag:automated observation with no human augmentation

METARS from possible preflight weather check time period included.  Departure time about 1016 UTC/Z


KF70 081415Z AUTO 00000KT 5SM BR OVC003 12/12 A2988 RMK AO2
KF70 081355Z AUTO 00000KT 1SM BR OVC003 12/12 A2988 RMK AO2
KF70 081335Z AUTO 00000KT 2SM BR OVC003 13/13 A2988 RMK AO2 VIS 1V4
KF70 081315Z AUTO 00000KT 1/4SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 081255Z AUTO 00000KT 3/4SM BR OVC003 12/12 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 081235Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 081215Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 081155Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 081135Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 081115Z AUTO 00000KT 1/2SM FG OVC003 12/12 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 081055Z AUTO 00000KT 3/4SM BR OVC003 11/11 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 081035Z AUTO 12003KT 10SM CLR 12/10 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 081015Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 12/10 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 080955Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 12/10 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 080935Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 13/11 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 080915Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 14/12 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 080855Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 13/11 A2985 RMK AO2
KF70 080835Z AUTO 13003KT 10SM CLR 13/11 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 080815Z AUTO 12003KT 10SM CLR 13/10 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 080755Z AUTO 12003KT 10SM CLR 14/11 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 080735Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 14/11 A2986 RMK AO2
KF70 080715Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 15/11 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 080655Z AUTO 18003KT 10SM CLR 15/11 A2987 RMK AO2
KF70 080635Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 16/11 A2987 RMK AO2

So vis below minimums for the RNAV... Wonder what the AWOS said, and if the AWOS said below min for the approach, why did he even try to get in there instead of just going to his alternate?

Wouldn't the METAR data I provided come from the AWOS-3 system?

Airport Communications
CTAF/UNICOM: 122.8
WX AWOS-3: 119.025 (951-696-1018)
MARCH APPROACH: 133.5 134.0
MARCH DEPARTURE: 133.5 134.0
WX AWOS-3PT at HMT (11 nm NE): 118.375 (951-925-6886)
WX AWOS-3P at L18 (15 nm SW): 118.425 (760-723-6073)

Airnav source

Can someone find ADS-B data for that flight?

https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=ab2bbc&lat=33.631&lon=-117.267&zoom=10.9&showTrace=2023-07-08

Bet its going to be a CFIT

Since he crashed on the second attempt, he knew very well. Makes the question of diverting even more important

I wonder how much "passenger pressure " he was getting to land it at that airport.  

I don't even remember the news that the asshole had died.

Looks like it. saw Juan's report on it earlier.
The 172 crash mentioned that the pilot was the father of the 3 kids inside and that he may not even have had a license.

JFC if true.

Yeah. Below mins, already flustered

You guys should start a gofundme.

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Looks his rate of descent put him in a bad way. Not a jet driver but if his engines wouldn't stop the descent in time you might expect a SPLAT. Look at the position of the wing relative to the tail/remains of body.

You can see in the video where he hit the terrain before the runway. The terrain is about 30-40ft below the runway.

The activist leftist city council used still unknown donor funds to change the name from McCarran who is supposedly some racist now. No one in the city asked for it but they went ahead and did it anyway.

IN before 87 pages of 'not the pilots fault/non-explosions/SMEs/' ad nauseam

Assuming it's Part 91, it's legal to look/see the approach.

If it's Part 135/121, that's not allowed. You need the visibility to commence the approach.

Global warming?

Not the first time a pilot got a case of get thereitis in the soup.


I heard the offer to divert from the tower to this pilot.  He decided to continue his approach into the small airport rather than the properly equipped and less socked in airport.


Not long after I was forwarded a text from a passenger that I know on it.  He was sitting in the right seat for the ride.  His head went into the panel and cut him up pretty good.  He described what he saw and heard.  The annunciator was barking "too low. Terrain" over and over until the yoke holder quipped "shut the fuck up" and muted it.  Then he saw the field come into the window at almost the same instant as the plane hit the field.  Luckily noone was killed.



Missed it by that much...  1/4 mile short.  

The pilot was very experienced too.  He knew better.

Is the C550 a single pilot rated aircraft?

Between the weather, where the crash was, and the fact the aircraft was very active leading up to the crash, those holes in the Swiss cheese are already starting to appear.

The certificate for that aircraft was issued 11/16/22, the LLC was registered 5/25/22. New pilot in type? That's what killed Tarzan.

Get-there-itis kills.  Perhaps the Kobe Bryant crash was similar in that regard.

Oh look, it was filled with FBI/IRS whistleblowers!  How about that?

Probably not, but I wouldn't be surprised to the depths of evil our government will go.

"And although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority that pilot flew a perfectly good jet into the ground.”

Of course, there certainly could have been aircraft issues that we don’t know about yet.

Considering almost all crashes have pilot error in there, you are probably right

The most dangerous thing about an airplane is the pilot.

Bad weather, 2nd attempt at landing, and crashing short..... weather is a factor and their instrument skills were likely off.

They could have easily flown the ILS into Riverside, Chino, or Ontario, and got an Uber.   Freaking idiot.

never go below the glideslope.      :(

Narrative:
A Cessna 550 Citation II crashed during a go around in heavy fog off runway 36 near Murrieta/Temecula-French Valley Airport (RBK), California, USA.

Prestige Worldwide LLC is not so funny anymore.

Middle of the night 135 flight? How long had the crew been “on duty”?

We can wait a year...or two or more...for the NTSB report to come out but there is a high probability that it was pilot error possibly driven by real or perceived pressure from one or more passengers to get there now.

Because the pax had their cars at French Valley and we’re giving them shit because they wanted to divert to ONT? Not an unusual scenario.