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Posted: 11/5/2023 10:32:07 PM EDT
Heroes serve a purpose, often many purposes in a story.

But what kind of a story do you have when you don't have a physical antagonist? Someone who is dumb, crazy or just plain mean enough to move the story forward.

I realize that IRL villains and probably a few bad guys from novels might find their way into a discussion like this. I just specify movie villains to limit the scope somewhat.
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Zorg.
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Someone with presence who can act

RRR's Villain role player Ray Stevenson talks about the first movie in his career #rrr
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[#3]
James Woods.
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My favorite movie good guy and bad guy.
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The Hanses - Gruber and Landa
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Godzilla. We don't give a shit that he's crushing and burning cities, while killing tens of thousands of people. He's OUR guy.

Can't wait for Godzilla Minus One!
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Anton Chigur
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Darth freaking Vader
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FPNI

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I learned a long time ago the bad guy was always the most interesting character.  Un-inhibited, original, able to do things nobody else would try.  Heroes always have to do the right thing.  Of course, that's why anti-heroes like Mal from Firefly, or Han Solo, or Hancock (Will Smith in the first part of the movie) are such an attraction.

Hans Gruber from Die Hard comes to mind as one of the best.  Darth Vader before Lucas neutered him?

edit:  beaten like a mule a couple times while composing my reply
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[#15]
Hannibal Lecter.
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Followed by Gus Fring, The Chicken King of Albuquerque.
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[#22]
Sta-puff Marshmallow Man

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Mr. Benedict.
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The best hands down.










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Maybe Top Dollar from the Crow?
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John Fain in Big Jake.
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Not a really complex personality, but a fantastic representation of the 'true believer.' The true believer is a particularly frightening archetype.

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Dr. Peters (12 monkeys)


And Joker


Oh, and Gus (Pet Cemetery II)
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[#35]
The Joker - Heath Ledger version, of course.

Beat like a govt mule!!
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An excellent choice.

The cool sociopath is a truly unsettling person.
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HAL 9000 wasn't even on my radar, but it's an intriguing selection.

I think I'd enjoy having a beer with you, sir.
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This is Arfcom, so I pick both.

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Roy Batty from Blade Runner
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If not physically menacing, then it would have to be a woman who’s cunning like the femme fatale’s

Gone Girl (2014) HD - Cool Girl
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stapufft dude didn't have shit on dickless




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eta: this guy was pretty good.

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Good choice.

I'll add Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen

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Nazi concentration camp commander (schindler’s list)

played by ralph fiennes
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