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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:40:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:42:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Remote work isn’t going anywhere.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:43:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Urban areas (democrats) are losing their tax revenues
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:46:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Urban areas (democrats) are losing their tax revenues This right here. I'm in software dev. I don't have to do my job in an office, especially when my physical office is 750 miles away. I like to visit from time to time and build relationships but day to day is done in my home office. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:46:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. Yeah it is, in large part |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:46:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Urban areas (democrats) are losing their tax revenues They shot themselves in the dick. I care not if they bleed out. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:47:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it is, in large part Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. Yeah it is, in large part No, it isn’t. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:47:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Theft of service has to end
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:50:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it is, in large part Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. Yeah it is, in large part Not in knowledge work fields. I am looking for work and I am seeing the majority of roles as remote. For those positions, it seems the companies want the largest possible applicant pool. Going local will screw them out of this. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:50:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it isn’t. It’s already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I’ve heard the discussions. Here |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:52:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in knowledge work fields. I am looking for work and I am seeing the majority of roles as remote. For those positions, it seems the companies want the largest possible applicant pool. Going local will screw them out of this. Not to mention international work now slowly opening up more. Big business can scream and shout about returning to the office, but it’s not going to happen en masse like some on here secretly (and not so secretly) wish for. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:53:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I’ve heard the discussions. Here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, it isn’t. It’s already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I’ve heard the discussions. Here Most places aren’t metro, and more companies are popping up outside of those areas. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:53:50 PM EDT
[#12]
My son has a government job where he works from home
He and his friends look at commute times as unpaid overtime, and gas, wear/tear on personally owned vehicles, insurance, parking costs are laughable unnecessary expenses |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:54:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Remote work is freedom from tyranny in Democrat ran cities. It is akin to a bull getting out of a feed-lot.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:55:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention international work now slowly opening up more. Big business can scream and shout about returning to the office, but it’s not going to happen en masse like some on here secretly (and not so secretly) wish for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not in knowledge work fields. I am looking for work and I am seeing the majority of roles as remote. For those positions, it seems the companies want the largest possible applicant pool. Going local will screw them out of this. Not to mention international work now slowly opening up more. Big business can scream and shout about returning to the office, but it’s not going to happen en masse like some on here secretly (and not so secretly) wish for. Now......if mortgage rates were still in the 3% range, companies might be able to get people to relocate. At 8%.....that isn't happening. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:55:49 PM EDT
[#15]
My wife's firm just tried mandating 3 days/week and everyone told them to pound sand.
It's not 2020 bad, but it will never go back to prepandemic levels. Foot traffic in Downtown Chicago is a fraction of what it used to be. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:57:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Somebody put up the @wakeboarder signal so he can weigh in on this.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:58:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Urban areas (democrats) are losing their tax revenues As soon as the cunt of DC Muriel Bowser said all the .gov workers needed to come back into the offices in DC so the surrounding businesses could make money off of them I asked, "what about climate change from all those cars being driven again?" Lib coworker went through some mighty interesting mental gymnastics on how it's different in that instance. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:59:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As soon as the cunt of DC Muriel Bowser said all the .gov workers needed to come back into the offices in DC so the surrounding areas can make money off of them I asked, "what about climate change from all those cars being driven again?" Lib coworker went through some mighty interesting mental gymnastics on how it's different in that instance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Urban areas (democrats) are losing their tax revenues As soon as the cunt of DC Muriel Bowser said all the .gov workers needed to come back into the offices in DC so the surrounding areas can make money off of them I asked, "what about climate change from all those cars being driven again?" Lib coworker went through some mighty interesting mental gymnastics on how it's different in that instance. Sort of like protests where cities literally burned were acceptable during covid lockdowns. Amazing what those people come up with. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:00:29 PM EDT
[#19]
I just don't know how you put that cat back in the bag. I have a friends that work from home since COVID pushed that. At their companies many work from home pretty much full time. Unless you are unlucky and your manager thinks its necessary to be in the office.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:00:45 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I've heard the discussions. Here |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:01:36 PM EDT
[#21]
People won't go back to every day in the office, there's no point. Companies that mandate it will have lots of vacancies
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:03:41 PM EDT
[#22]
I hope so. I want them to move back to where they came from.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:05:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I've heard the discussions. Here A friend works IT for a law firm that rented 8 floors in an office building in a large city. Not a "sky scraper" I would say, but floors 27-34 smack in the middle of down town. So...I am sure the rent wasn't cheap. The "corner partners" were the big dog attorneys with literally that, the building corner offices with floor to ceiling windows of the city below. They have 2 floors left, they let the rest of them go. They keep those two for servers, IT hardware and other infrastructure. The only people who go there are the hardware guys and people who need to pull physical paperwork. He said they have no plans of going back and everyone has scattered around the globe. That the higher ups have expressed that if the company tries to make them go back to working in an office, they have formed a unified front that they will all go elsewhere. The company then tried. They sent out a notice to a bunch of people that if they didn't show up to the office the following Monday, they would be terminated. Nobody showed up and nobody has been terminated. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:05:41 PM EDT
[#24]
I don't get why businesses are so crazy about RTO....I don't have to worry about it but my employer is really trying to move people back into the office. Luckily I got hired remote before all this insanity started.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:07:05 PM EDT
[#25]
An unintended consequence.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:08:55 PM EDT
[#26]
I was 85% WFH in the Before Time.
2020 made that 100%. Now I'm at 98.87% and my boss said he would support me if I wanted to work from Italy 3 months out of the year. (An option that my wife and I are currently reviewing ...) It all depends on who you work for, and if you can be a productive employee on your own. Companies want the fuckups in the office so they can look over their shoulders. Don't be a fuckup. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:12:07 PM EDT
[#27]
Depends on work but for most part; folks are never going back in.
We took survey; 90% said they'd quit. ALL the work we do can be done from anywhere and the single women w/children basically cannot afford the daycare, fuel, car, food, lunch and other expenses that come with going into an office. Its basically a salary onto its own. For a woman or even a family; the daycare savings alone are a salary. One female said its cheaper for her to stay at home and take care of kids - than to go to work. But working from home she oversees her two kids. ALL her work can be tracked every hour; so this aint govt work where you can move a mouse every 4 minues. We can track everything all day long and the work gets done. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:12:14 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm starting a new job next week and one of the things that they want addressed is making remote work more accessible to employees. They also want to figure out how to get more employees to participate in the 401k matching.
I feel like I may be entering bizzaro world. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:13:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remote work isn't going anywhere. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:13:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Why have a building that you have to maintain, clean and pay for?
VR, Teams etc has made office cubicles obsolete for office work. And this helps prevent the spread of Covid
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:14:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Do/Should WFH peeps worry their jobs turn into WFH peeps from overseas taking their jobs?
I’m sure they can find a cheaper workforce of all you need is an internet connection. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:15:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm starting a new job next week and one of the things that they want addressed is making remote work more accessible to employees. They also want to figure out how to get more employees to participate in the 401k matching. I feel like I may be entering bizzaro world.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:16:03 PM EDT
[#33]
If you want my production to decrease have me come back to the office.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:17:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do/Should WFH peeps worry their jobs turn into WFH peeps from overseas taking their jobs? I'm sure they can find a cheaper workforce of all you need is an internet connection. I have worked full work weeks, taken conference calls, the whole mess, while in resorts in HI. Not on PTO time, just....a normal week because, what does it actually matter? I have written projects and code, with my toes in the sand in a beach chair in Mexico. I told my manager of my plans before I left. He said he really didn't need to know where the fuck I am, as long as the work gets done right and on time. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:17:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't know how you put that cat back in the bag. I have a friends that work from home since COVID pushed that. At their companies many work from home pretty much full time. Unless you are unlucky and your manager thinks its necessary to be in the office. Not to mention structural tightening of the labor market. Boomers are retiring and Gen Z is smaller. The size of the boomer generation resulted in oversupply of labor for the past 30+ years. This is changing and will.be shifting the long term balance of power away from employers. Also factored in is the increased competition for high skill workers, especially in tech applications. I do software development in banking. Even regional banks need significant teams if in-house analysts, admins, and devs to configure and maintain their applications. Ten years ago, banks this size had a fraction of that as they still heavily used paper processes and lots of clerical positions instead of automation. It adds up to increased competition for workers who can build and maintain this stuff And for the inevitable 'they can just send the job to India!'.. LOL. I've seen it attempted with high skill (not help desk) jobs. Failed spectacularly each time. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:18:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent Managers need to micro manage |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:21:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent  There are publicly traded companies that are 100% remote. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:21:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do/Should WFH peeps worry their jobs turn into WFH peeps from overseas taking their jobs? I'm sure they can find a cheaper workforce of all you need is an internet connection. not enough resources in-house to do it all. The quality of what we got back was less than impressive. Took us more time to redo a bunch of the code we paid them for. Management learned a valuable lesson there. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:23:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are publicly traded companies that are 100% remote. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent There are publicly traded companies that are 100% remote. Yep, For now They are all slowly bringing people back in. Laugh all you want but you hear it every day of companies telling people to come to work. I know it sucks but its happening |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:24:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do/Should WFH peeps worry their jobs turn into WFH peeps from overseas taking their jobs? I’m sure they can find a cheaper workforce of all you need is an internet connection. It’s always possible. Many places have tried that and have regretted it. Also many places have geographic and citizenship/residency constraints. The remote cat is not going back in the bag. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:25:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent Managers need to micro manage Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remote work isn’t going anywhere. It is going to be so thinned out it will almost be nonexistent Managers need to micro manage I do not agree with this conclusion. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:25:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We experimented with contracting out some of our programming work to an Indian office when we were slammed and not enough resources in-house to do it all. The quality of what we got back was less than impressive. Took us more time to redo a bunch of the code we paid them for. Management learned a valuable lesson there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do/Should WFH peeps worry their jobs turn into WFH peeps from overseas taking their jobs? I'm sure they can find a cheaper workforce of all you need is an internet connection. not enough resources in-house to do it all. The quality of what we got back was less than impressive. Took us more time to redo a bunch of the code we paid them for. Management learned a valuable lesson there. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:25:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't know how you put that cat back in the bag. I have a friends that work from home since COVID pushed that. At their companies many work from home pretty much full time. Unless you are unlucky and your manager thinks it's necessary to be in the office. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:27:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Bold move ahead of an election where they are likely to try to lock everything down again.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:27:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people around here are remote working. It's not like there are tech companies in southern Utah (as far as I know) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just don't know how you put that cat back in the bag. I have a friends that work from home since COVID pushed that. At their companies many work from home pretty much full time. Unless you are unlucky and your manager thinks it's necessary to be in the office. Locations are becoming meaningless. I could set up a tool for my client, right now, in Azure and build, maintain, hire a team, etc. from anywhere in the world. …if he actually listened to me and stopped trying to run his business off Excel.. BUT I’M NOT BITTER LOL |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:27:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Wait, so everyone that could wfh during covid, had to wfh to keep the business going, and now with inflation over the moon, they want people to basically take a paycut and rto, for what?
Are companies actually doing worse or is it just that the companies that didn't divest themselves of unneeded properties are stuck holding the rent bill? Is there some kind of occupancy number they have to hit to be able to write off the property cost? Or is it just that micro managers have to justify their job by how many people they can see on the floor? |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:28:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention international work now slowly opening up more. Big business can scream and shout about returning to the office, but it’s not going to happen en masse like some on here secretly (and not so secretly) wish for. Friend of mine has a work-from-home job with an Israeli company. Remote work really opens up what businesses you can apply for, and what workers those businesses can attract. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:28:33 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s already significantly down from what it once was. As metro areas put pressure on large corporations/threaten to remove tax breaks, more people will be going hybrid and then back to the office. Fortune 200 here, senior mgmt- I’ve heard the discussions. Here Fortune 100 here and we are adding close to 400 remote positions next year and transitioning enough employees to shut down 3 offices. Goal is 75% remote by 2027. EDIT Profits and productivity have been steadily increasing since 2020 when all this started. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:28:37 PM EDT
[#49]
if they build drone semis id love to start and finish the day with a control station in the house.
use a vr visor and drive my drone truck and park it at days end. could even do shifts around the clock and keep it moving. have meals at my table and sleep in my own bed. they'll be doing that in a few years |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:28:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This right here. I'm in software dev. I don't have to do my job in an office, especially when my physical office is 750 miles away. I like to visit from time to time and build relationships but day to day is done in my home office. |
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