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Posted: 9/14/2021 2:24:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BPR]
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I've done about 12-15 run and guns now, most of them 6+ miles, and my gear hasn't changed for the last 6 or 8 of those. There is a certain level of confidence achieved after you've run, crawled, waded, climbed and jumped in your gear. The most recent was this past weekend's Legion 10K, which actually ended up being about 7.2 miles. I did lose a loaded rifle mag from my belt mounted mag carrier, but it's because I failed to put the bungee up over the top of it before I kicked off. (May have lost it in the first of 6 creek crossings)
Volund belt, Tactical tailor pouches, Tactical Tailor mini-mav chest rig. I really like the TT Magna-mag pistol pouches. The rifle mag carriers on my chest rig work great too, they're still because of the chest rig on back and pistol pouch on front. I'm not a big fan of the belt mounted rifle mag pouch. It's hard to get a mag back in with one hand. No reinforcement at the opening. Short story- get your gear dirty and soaked in sweat. You'll learn something about it and you.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 3:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By matai: I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks Yes. I tripped and fell running in a training class and lost my pistol out of a friction holster. Running a Safariland ALS now. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 3:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BPR: I've done about 12-15 run and guns now, most of them 6+ miles, and my gear hasn't changed for the last 6 or 8 of those. There is a certain level of confidence achieved after you've run, crawled, waded, climbed and jumped in your gear. The most recent was this past weekend's Legion 10K. I did lose a loaded rifle mag from my belt mounted mag carrier, but it's because I failed to put the bungee up over the top of it before I kicked off. (May have lost it in the first of 6 creek crossings) Volund belt, Tactical tailor pouches, Tactical Tailor mini-mav chest rig. I really like the TT Magna-mag pistol pouches. The rifle mag carriers on my chest rig work great too, they're still because of the chest rig on back and pistol pouch on front. I'm not a big fan of the belt mounted rifle mag pouch. It's hard to get a mag back in with one hand. No reinforcement at the opening. Short story- get your gear dirty and soaked in sweat. You'll learn something about it and you. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44835/IMG_2473_jpeg-2090508.JPG Listen to this guy. I use my gear quite a bit but I'm planning on my first run n gun in a few months. Can't think of a better way to test your gear and be ready for what's coming. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210815_173319664_jpg-2053789.JPG Anyone know the intended purpose of the the two grommets and short length of paracord on the IFAK insert? I'm thinking that maybe it is to secure a roll of medical tape. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210815_173515422_jpg-2053790.JPG Keep in mind, the primary purpose for me exploring the interplay between the USGI Improved IFAK Insert and the LBT-9022B is due to the fact that the BFG MTKN! requires the use of mini bandages. The end result is a larger (but better IMO) belt mounted IFAK. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210815_173807881_jpg-2053792.JPG Now... Where to place medical shears? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210815_173912254_jpg-2053793.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210815_173923077_jpg-2053794.JPG |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 5:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By matai: Working on my first belt: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac mag pouches Esstac dump pouch Soil Eater TQ holder Leatherman Mut https://i.imgur.com/8ZOh6GP.jpg Will probably get a Blue Alpha Gear hook for gloves and a HSGI Bleeder pouch. I 3d printed a belt loop for the Leatherman Mut, working so far, might replace it with an Esstac one for peace of mind though. I need new holsters, I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks With ALS there's no reason not to. Everyone can say "it works for me" about fiction for holsters while on a flat range, but for an actual belt that might be carried in the woods, in the desert, around water, on an ATV, or worn during civil unrest there's ZERO reasons not to have active retention. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JASIRR: Yes. I tripped and fell running in a training class and lost my pistol out of a friction holster. Running a Safariland ALS now. I had my G19 go flying out of a friction holster when I had to sprint between barriers in a class. ALS from then on, 100%. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 5:37:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BPR: It's hard to get a mag back in with one hand. No reinforcement at the opening. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44835/IMG_2473_jpeg-2090508.JPG Sounds like an issue with your pouch. I have no trouble reinserting a mag into my S&S SMR. But it's rigid plastic. I've never heard that complaint about any mag pouch with a kydex insert. Granted, I'm not putting empty mags back in quickly, that's what dump pouches are for. Between the retention issue, and the reinsertion issue it honestly sounds like you're not using the appropriate mag pouch for the task. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 7:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: With ALS there's no reason not to. Everyone can say "it works for me" about fiction for holsters while on a flat range, but for an actual belt that might be carried in the woods, in the desert, around water, on an ATV, or worn during civil unrest there's ZERO reasons not to have active retention. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By matai: Working on my first belt: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac mag pouches Esstac dump pouch Soil Eater TQ holder Leatherman Mut https://i.imgur.com/8ZOh6GP.jpg Will probably get a Blue Alpha Gear hook for gloves and a HSGI Bleeder pouch. I 3d printed a belt loop for the Leatherman Mut, working so far, might replace it with an Esstac one for peace of mind though. I need new holsters, I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks With ALS there's no reason not to. Everyone can say "it works for me" about fiction for holsters while on a flat range, but for an actual belt that might be carried in the woods, in the desert, around water, on an ATV, or worn during civil unrest there's ZERO reasons not to have active retention. I'll go a step farther and say if you're wearing a warbelt, you should have a lanyard as well.  Bearcamp stage 1 9/12/21 |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:09:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: I'll go a step farther and say if you're wearing a warbelt, you should have a lanyard as well.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7__caC06coQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By matai: Working on my first belt: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac mag pouches Esstac dump pouch Soil Eater TQ holder Leatherman Mut https://i.imgur.com/8ZOh6GP.jpg Will probably get a Blue Alpha Gear hook for gloves and a HSGI Bleeder pouch. I 3d printed a belt loop for the Leatherman Mut, working so far, might replace it with an Esstac one for peace of mind though. I need new holsters, I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks With ALS there's no reason not to. Everyone can say "it works for me" about fiction for holsters while on a flat range, but for an actual belt that might be carried in the woods, in the desert, around water, on an ATV, or worn during civil unrest there's ZERO reasons not to have active retention. I'll go a step farther and say if you're wearing a warbelt, you should have a lanyard as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7__caC06coWhy? For an additional snag hazard? As a way to interfere with your draw? Every professional organization has moved away from lanyards except a couple minor ones that work over open water and can't physically recover their pistols if dropped. Even those dudes try to get away with not wearing lanyards if at all possible. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:20:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Why? For an additional snag hazard? As a way to interfere with your draw? Every professional organization has moved away from lanyards except a couple minor ones that work over open water and can't physically recover their pistols if dropped. Even those dudes try to get away with not wearing lanyards if at all possible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By matai: Working on my first belt: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac mag pouches Esstac dump pouch Soil Eater TQ holder Leatherman Mut https://i.imgur.com/8ZOh6GP.jpg Will probably get a Blue Alpha Gear hook for gloves and a HSGI Bleeder pouch. I 3d printed a belt loop for the Leatherman Mut, working so far, might replace it with an Esstac one for peace of mind though. I need new holsters, I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks With ALS there's no reason not to. Everyone can say "it works for me" about fiction for holsters while on a flat range, but for an actual belt that might be carried in the woods, in the desert, around water, on an ATV, or worn during civil unrest there's ZERO reasons not to have active retention. I'll go a step farther and say if you're wearing a warbelt, you should have a lanyard as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7__caC06coWhy? For an additional snag hazard? As a way to interfere with your draw? Every professional organization has moved away from lanyards except a couple minor ones that work over open water and can't physically recover their pistols if dropped. Even those dudes try to get away with not wearing lanyards if at all possible. Guess you never had to re-patrol the same jungle 3 times to find someone's M9. Let's not even talk about an actual lost M9 from zodiac drills. Or have debris keep the handgun from locking into a Safariland and then bouncing out at a dead run. Or getting swatted by a bear and lose your grip on your sidearm(not something I've personally experienced) If I'm moving and it snags hard it'll break. I've broken a few actually. I've never had it interfere with a draw in the last 20 years, including professional shooting schools like a MEU SOC CQB, and a lot of matches since I got out. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:30:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JASIRR: Yes. I tripped and fell running in a training class and lost my pistol out of a friction holster. Running a Safariland ALS now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JASIRR: Originally Posted By matai: I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks Yes. I tripped and fell running in a training class and lost my pistol out of a friction holster. Running a Safariland ALS now. I had one of my M&Ps come up slightly in a Bladetech after sprinting (didn't come all the way out, thankfully). I tightened it and abused it to try to get it out, but I periodically make sure the tension is sufficient. So far, so good, and I've been pretty unkind to my gear. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:43:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By matai: I need new holsters, I asked this on another thread, but do you all consider active retention a requirement for battle belt holsters? Thanks I have two belts: One for work that is made up of combat specific pouches, med, etc. The holster absolutely has active retention (6354DO). It's required by team SOP and every shooting school that I've been to or know of. The other is specifically for 2 gun or other competition shooting. It has a Red Hill Tactical competition holster and competition specific pouches. All that to say: It depends. If you only plan on having one belt then yes, active retention. Build your shit out to fit the application you foresee using it in. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BPR: I'm not a big fan of the belt mounted rifle mag pouch. It's hard to get a mag back in with one hand. No reinforcement at the opening. The pouch is on your belt because it's generally faster to draw a mag from there than your chest and/or because it allows you to scale your kit as necessary. Generally speaking, you should not be *quickly* re-inserting a mag into the pouch. That's what you have that nice, big ol' dump pouch for. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: I'll go a step farther and say if you're wearing a warbelt, you should have a lanyard as well. No. No you should not. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:06:25 PM EDT
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I think the drawbacks to a lanyard would be more than the benefits stateside.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:13:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y: I think the drawbacks to a lanyard would be more than the benefits stateside. Agree For air and water ops, sure, but I don't do either. So no use for me. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: I think the drawbacks to a lanyard would be more than the benefits stateside. If I've noticed drawbacks I'd definitely rethink their use |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:23:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: If I've noticed drawbacks I'd definitely rethink their use Oh for sure. If they work for you, rock them like it's a job. I'm already catching slings, holsters, mics, etc on door frames, door knobs, and bushes and shit. The less "catchy" thing I have the better. 
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Posted: 9/15/2021 12:46:16 PM EDT
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 ATS belt. Thought about going with a two piece but I don't really wear tactical EDC, other than my conceal carry, and wanted something that could pull double duty and fill in for a chest rig. Basic stuff: - TQ - HSGI mag carriers - Tactical Tailor double mag pouch, extra rifle mags, water bottle, or whatever - ATS slim dump pouch - ATS tear away IFAK - ATS mini GP pouch - Blackhawk!!!!!1!!! T series for my P320 with TLR-1 and ACRO Left all the belt slack on the right, so I can let it in or out for whatever I'm wearing on the fly. Looking for any recommendations on replacement 2" buckles that you think might be an improvement. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 6:25:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: acegunner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperStormBryan: https://i.imgur.com/rMgalFrh.jpg ATS belt. Thought about going with a two piece but I don't really wear tactical EDC, other than my conceal carry, and wanted something that could pull double duty and fill in for a chest rig. Basic stuff: - TQ - HSGI mag carriers - Tactical Tailor double mag pouch, extra rifle mags, water bottle, or whatever - ATS slim dump pouch - ATS tear away IFAK - ATS mini GP pouch - Blackhawk!!!!!1!!! T series for my P320 with TLR-1 and ACRO Left all the belt slack on the right, so I can let it in or out for whatever I'm wearing on the fly. Looking for any recommendations on replacement 2" buckles that you think might be an improvement. I think Cobra buckles would be the best option. I'm not familiar with any others, but Cobra buckles are what all of the top belts use. I've never had any issues with them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 6:27:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Oh for sure. If they work for you, rock them like it's a job. I'm already catching slings, holsters, mics, etc on door frames, door knobs, and bushes and shit. The less "catchy" thing I have the better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Originally Posted By 03RN: If I've noticed drawbacks I'd definitely rethink their use Oh for sure. If they work for you, rock them like it's a job. I'm already catching slings, holsters, mics, etc on door frames, door knobs, and bushes and shit. The less "catchy" thing I have the better. I've had lanyards on my kit before. Moving through some of the bush here is trouble enough, doubly so with the snaggy bits. Until I need to worry about air and water ops, I'm limiting straps to a rifle sling. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acegunner: I think Cobra buckles would be the best option. I'm not familiar with any others, but Cobra buckles are what all of the top belts use. I've never had any issues with them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/121400/FY45KVV-Rendered-scaled_jpg-2092084.JPG To add, I have been wearing my ESSTAC belt w/cobra everyday besides weekends and it is showing no signs of rust on the release clips like I thought it would. Even though they are not painted like the main buckle, they look brand new still. I sweat like a mofo and can rust a set of guitar strings after 2 sessions (just making a reference). The cobra buckle seems to be the new standard. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 10:49:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acegunner: I think Cobra buckles would be the best option. I'm not familiar with any others, but Cobra buckles are what all of the top belts use. I've never had any issues with them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/121400/FY45KVV-Rendered-scaled_jpg-2092084.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acegunner: I think Cobra buckles would be the best option. I'm not familiar with any others, but Cobra buckles are what all of the top belts use. I've never had any issues with them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/121400/FY45KVV-Rendered-scaled_jpg-2092084.JPG Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC: To add, I have been wearing my ESSTAC belt w/cobra everyday besides weekends and it is showing no signs of rust on the release clips like I thought it would. Even though they are not painted like the main buckle, they look brand new still. I sweat like a mofo and can rust a set of guitar strings after 2 sessions (just making a reference). The cobra buckle seems to be the new standard. Thanks gents. I figured that was still the main go to. All I've seen are the fastex, cop buckle, and the Cobra. |
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Posted: 9/16/2021 6:26:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFtacFANAC: To add, I have been wearing my ESSTAC belt w/cobra everyday besides weekends and it is showing no signs of rust on the release clips like I thought it would. Even though they are not painted like the main buckle, they look brand new still. I sweat like a mofo and can rust a set of guitar strings after 2 sessions (just making a reference). The cobra buckle seems to be the new standard. I've been wearing this one nearly daily for a decade. The latches are brass so they tarnish and technically rust a little but it's not like steel or iron. Just some verdigris in the corners where it doesn't rub off.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2021 2:50:04 PM EDT
[#25]
Got started on mine finally, still a work in progress...
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Posted: 9/17/2021 7:28:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
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If anyone wants to buy my Crye MRB let me know. I just picked up an Eagle belt.
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Posted: 9/18/2021 1:48:29 PM EDT
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Current state.
Just got done swapping over to onewrap and attaching my 6930 which is replacing a Gcode holster. Added the taco a couple of weeks ago during a shoot where I was using MP5 magazines. Only thing as of right now that I can seeing changing is swapping the BFG micro trauma out for a LBT small blow-out kit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/19/2021 4:05:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: I've been wearing this one nearly daily for a decade. The latches are brass so they tarnish and technically rust a little but it's not like steel or iron. Just some verdigris in the corners where it doesn't rub off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210916_192135_jpg-2092548.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210916_192146_jpg-2092549.JPG Awesome to know. I thought the way they are starting to 'patina' made it seem like they are not steel. |
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Posted: 9/19/2021 4:16:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joker581]
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Posted: 9/19/2021 5:01:13 PM EDT
[#30]
The current belt setup i've been messing with
 Ferro Concepts Bison inner+outter Soileater TQ holder True North Holster adapter + QLS plate Various Safarilands on QLS forks Trex thigh strap Sometimes I put an ifak on the back: BFG micro, Coyote Tactical STOMP, or just rock a spiritus sack back there. Immediate Access rifle pouch from EMDOM, routed through Direct Action Gear dump pouch 2x Shaw concepts pistol pouches on their angle adapters. |
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Posted: 9/19/2021 9:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sevin8nin: The current belt setup i've been messing with https://i.imgur.com/jc6FeKa.jpg Ferro Concepts Bison inner+outter Soileater TQ holder True North Holster adapter + QLS plate Various Safarilands on QLS forks Trex thigh strap Sometimes I put an ifak on the back: BFG micro, Coyote Tactical STOMP, or just rock a spiritus sack back there. Immediate Access rifle pouch from EMDOM, routed through Direct Action Gear dump pouch 2x Shaw concepts pistol pouches on their angle adapters. I really like this setup, I like the canted pistol mags, how do you like the dump pouch around the rifle mag? |
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Posted: 9/20/2021 11:01:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boudreaux_Boz: I really like this setup, I like the canted pistol mags, how do you like the dump pouch around the rifle mag? so far so good. My rifle mag is still just as easy to access as it ever was but now it's a lot more straightforward to actually dump something in it. Previous range day was hot so i was keeping a bottle of water in there. Pretty handy |
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Posted: 9/20/2021 11:17:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hoody2shoez]
[#33]
Lots of cool setups in here.
Currently playing with the new haley pouches/ifak. The rifle/radio pouch is LEGIT. This pistol mag pouches are... frustrating. You can def tell they we're designed with plastic glock mags in mind. The retention method they use literally sticks to my metal hk mags and makes them almost impossible to draw. Literally need two hands. According to them they should break in and loosen up and I have gone so far as to actually turn the magazines sideways to get them to loosen. It's working slowly but so far is been frustrating because they are so well designed and I want to like them. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 9:18:16 AM EDT
[#34]
Shout out to everyone in this thread. Great gear reviews, great insight...helped me build a kit that was AMAZINGingly comfortable and functional.
This is why we ARF. 
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Posted: 9/21/2021 9:59:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Shout out to everyone in this thread. Great gear reviews, great insight...helped me build a kit that was AMAZINGingly comfortable and functional. This is why we ARF. https://i.imgur.com/quhK44y.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 10:09:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Lots of cool setups in here. Currently playing with the new haley pouches/ifak. The rifle/radio pouch is LEGIT. This pistol mag pouches are... frustrating. You can def tell they we're designed with plastic glock mags in mind. The retention method they use literally sticks to my metal hk mags and makes them almost impossible to draw. Literally need two hands. According to them they should break in and loosen up and I have gone so far as to actually turn the magazines sideways to get them to loosen. It's working slowly but so far is been frustrating because they are so well designed and I want to like them. Yikes! I was looking at trying a couple of these out, but that's hardly a stellar review. |
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Posted: 9/21/2021 10:14:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Yikes! I was looking at trying a couple of these out, but that's hardly a stellar review. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Lots of cool setups in here. Currently playing with the new haley pouches/ifak. The rifle/radio pouch is LEGIT. This pistol mag pouches are... frustrating. You can def tell they we're designed with plastic glock mags in mind. The retention method they use literally sticks to my metal hk mags and makes them almost impossible to draw. Literally need two hands. According to them they should break in and loosen up and I have gone so far as to actually turn the magazines sideways to get them to loosen. It's working slowly but so far is been frustrating because they are so well designed and I want to like them. Yikes! I was looking at trying a couple of these out, but that's hardly a stellar review. If you're using plastic mags it shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure they will loosen up sooner or later. Just annoying. Like I said though, the rifle pouch is AWESOME. 10/10 would recommend. It's like the retention of the kywi had a forbidden, beautiful love child with the modularity of a taco. |
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Posted: 9/22/2021 10:51:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Bring your new belt to work day
 I need to get rid of the MCB pouch and go to RG. A buddy is sending me the belt loop mount for my S&S SMR as the MOLLE version worked well on my MRB but not the Eagle style belt. I didn't need a belt pouch for my mags today so it wasn't an issue. If anyone wants to buy a Crye MRB or the MCB 9022b hit me up. |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 5:00:47 PM EDT
[#39]
Just picked up a Staccato P. I ordered the Esstac 2011 insetts. I ran some drills with the normal glock style, they work until you start moving around. The taper of the 2011 mags and how slick they are, they would pop out if I ran or jumped.
Just letting 2011 guys know that you REALLY should get the 2011 inserts. |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 6:01:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFtacFANAC: Just picked up a Staccato P. I ordered the Esstac 2011 insetts. I ran some drills with the normal glock style, they work until you start moving around. The taper of the 2011 mags and how slick they are, they would pop out if I ran or jumped. Just letting 2011 guys know that you REALLY should get the 2011 inserts. What holster are you using? |
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Posted: 9/24/2021 8:11:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC: Just picked up a Staccato P. I ordered the Esstac 2011 insetts. I ran some drills with the normal glock style, they work until you start moving around. The taper of the 2011 mags and how slick they are, they would pop out if I ran or jumped. Just letting 2011 guys know that you REALLY should get the 2011 inserts. Bro are we of the same mind? I just got my Stacatto P and also got esstac pouches. Holy shit this thing is nuts. I normally do my practice at roughly 10/15 yards and I'm an okay shooter. They're hits, but it's nothing special. I pushed it out to 30 today and except for a few rapid fires I was chewing the center. This pistol is insane. 
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Posted: 9/25/2021 12:37:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: What holster are you using? Right now a cheapo kydex from Midway. I probably will try a QVO holster because of putting a light on. I think a safariland is over kill for work. Also, I will be shooting open division with it, so the QVO with trigger housing retention should be good enough for me. |
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Posted: 9/25/2021 12:50:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Bro are we of the same mind? I just got my Stacatto P and also got esstac pouches. Holy shit this thing is nuts. I normally do my practice at roughly 10/15 yards and I'm an okay shooter. They're hits, but it's nothing special. I pushed it out to 30 today and except for a few rapid fires I was chewing the center. This pistol is insane. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/Screenshot_20210924-144022_Gallery-2103670.jpg HA we are always on that same wave length. Except for KAC. I prefer my franken guns. Yes, the gun is nuts. I am in the current debate of what optic to put on it. TBH I really like my holosun 507c on my glock 19x. When I did some training with a co worker yesterday, my double taps have closed up a ton. My Esstac inserts did not come in until I got home from work. I used the standard insert will running drills. The tall taper of the mags makes it almost impossible to keep the mags retained with the glock style insert. They cost me about 12 bucks and I got more stickers! Gun came in Thursday, and hilariously, I met an Arfcommer at work who said he would stop in sometime to say hi. Really good guy. The trigger alone is just silly. 4 pounds, almost 0 take up. I thought I was impressed with my Timney Alpha/CZ guns. All of them are on the wall of shame now. This is now the carry/work/comp gun. I need to order the cadre comp since I have the threaded version, but it is not really needed. It shoots flat already. If you ever make it to Ohio, let me know and we can burn up some targets.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/26/2021 1:33:28 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Guess you never had to re-patrol the same jungle 3 times to find someone's M9. Let's not even talk about an actual lost M9 from zodiac drills. Or have debris keep the handgun from locking into a Safariland and then bouncing out at a dead run. Or getting swatted by a bear and lose your grip on your sidearm(not something I've personally experienced) If I'm moving and it snags hard it'll break. I've broken a few actually. I've never had it interfere with a draw in the last 20 years, including professional shooting schools like a MEU SOC CQB, and a lot of matches since I got out. Why doesn’t anyone run a lvl 3 retention. Both ALS and SLS. Those are the only holsters I run. Have to wear em on duty and I train with them off duty. Not any slower I keep up with people running plain no retention kydex. It’s all apart of the draw. Don’t need a lanyard if you have a lvl 3 retention safariland. |
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Posted: 9/26/2021 12:22:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFtacFANAC: Just picked up a Staccato P. I ordered the Esstac 2011 insetts. I ran some drills with the normal glock style, they work until you start moving around. The taper of the 2011 mags and how slick they are, they would pop out if I ran or jumped. Just letting 2011 guys know that you REALLY should get the 2011 inserts. Noticed the same issue, I havent done any shooting except static ones lately and even then my 2011 mags have worked themselves out which made me kinda want to dump them for another set. Nice to know bout the 2011 inserts, how do those work with other magazine types?  Pic for attention. @WhiskersTheCat get your grips stippled for flex. |
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Posted: 9/26/2021 4:48:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Massan: Noticed the same issue, I havent done any shooting except static ones lately and even then my 2011 mags have worked themselves out which made me kinda want to dump them for another set. Nice to know bout the 2011 inserts, how do those work with other magazine types? https://i.ibb.co/m4986tt/20210527-213510.jpg Pic for attention. @WhiskersTheCat get your grips stippled for flex. That's nice looking, I dig it |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:16:39 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Massan: Noticed the same issue, I havent done any shooting except static ones lately and even then my 2011 mags have worked themselves out which made me kinda want to dump them for another set. Nice to know bout the 2011 inserts, how do those work with other magazine types? https://i.ibb.co/m4986tt/20210527-213510.jpg Pic for attention. @WhiskersTheCat get your grips stippled for flex. My CZ P-09 likes the 2011 inserts. My SP-01 mags are decent in there as well. Glock mags are not great. That's the only types of mags I have. I will note that my 70 deg w/magnet pouch is pretty tight. I may remold it. Nice grip. I like the stock design looks wise, but I need more grip. Does anyone know of base pads that work with the magwell on 126mm tubes? The flush fit is not working great for me. Just a couple more mm's would make a great difference. I saw that MBX and Taran's do not work with the magwell. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 5:27:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: waldershrek]
[#48]
Awhile back I had asked about how the G Code OD green matched up to Esstac ranger green. Well the answer is pretty close:
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Posted: 9/28/2021 11:32:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
[#49]
 Finally finished, got the S&S belt loop and the JSTA and LBX med pouch in today. Eagle belt Spiritus JSTA and double mag insert S&S SMR LBX Med Pouch Eleven10 CAT TQ holster Safariland Single leg shroud with QLS and ELS ELS can mount a shotgun shell holder or baton. |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 9:18:30 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20210928_182734-2110269.jpg Finally finished, got the S&S belt loop and the JSTA and LBX med pouch in today. Eagle belt Spiritus JSTA and double mag insert S&S SMR LBX Med Pouch Safariland Single leg shroud with QLS and ELS Not pictured is an Eleven10 CAT holster ELS can mount a shotgun shell holder or baton. How you liking the JSTA? Was thinking about getting one as a grab pouch |
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