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Posted: 10/7/2017 6:57:12 PM EST
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Should I buy the Franklin BFS III vs Fostech Echo II ???? Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 10/7/2017 7:11:18 PM EST
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Bottom Line: Should I buy the Franklin BFS III vs Fostech Echo II ???? Thanks in advance. The stock echo is nice because it eliminates hammer follow, but the trigger pull weights are atrocious. So between the two stock triggers, I like the BFS3. However, if you replace the spring in the echo, it is far and away the best option. Hopefully some one else who has done the modification can chime in as well. I personally put the modified echo in my favorite rifle and relegated the BFS3 to my mpx. |
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Posted: 10/7/2017 9:26:44 PM EST
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Thanks, I'll take a look at the Geissele SD3G. 
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Posted: 10/8/2017 3:00:51 PM EST
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So I got my springs, I ordered 2 sets. Is there just supposed to be 1 spring per trigger kit? I ask as I only received 2 small springs approx 1/8 thick and 1/2 long? Where does this spring install at? I plan on taking it apart in a few weeks and at the moment I'm unsure where this single small spring is installed at.
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Posted: 10/8/2017 3:08:31 PM EST
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So I got my springs, I ordered 2 sets. Is there just supposed to be 1 spring per trigger kit? I ask as I only received 2 small springs approx 1/8 thick and 1/2 long? Where does this spring install at? I plan on taking it apart in a few weeks and at the moment I'm unsure where this single small spring is installed at. |
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Posted: 10/8/2017 3:08:44 PM EST
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So I got my springs, I ordered 2 sets. Is there just supposed to be 1 spring per trigger kit? I ask as I only received 2 small springs approx 1/8 thick and 1/2 long? Where does this spring install at? I plan on taking it apart in a few weeks and at the moment I'm unsure where this single small spring is installed at. Click here for install instructions. |
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Posted: 10/8/2017 3:13:21 PM EST
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I was coming back here to edit my post as I just seen the install page. Thanks for the reply.
I may want another 2 springs, do you ever plan on selling anymore or is your source ok with just selling them individually? I ask as I was going to keep the 2nd spring as a backup but I'm thinking about buying another echo and using it in that one on a 20" ar. Debating on maybe a 308 but the issue I'm running into is finding drum mags for a 308. X products only makes 50rds for 308 and I was hoping to find a 75 or 100rd. I want to make it loud and fast with large holes in paper! 
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Posted: 10/8/2017 3:20:13 PM EST
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I've got some more actually. Following recent events, people started blowing up my inbox so I went ahead and did another run. Let me know if you want a few more!
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Posted: 10/8/2017 4:42:48 PM EST
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what happened to the 4.5lb trigger pull as advertised?
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Posted: 10/9/2017 12:07:36 AM EST
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You can't sell merchandise in this thread
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Posted: 10/9/2017 9:44:43 AM EST
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I have purchased 2 Echo’s a gen1 and 2 and sent in for the replacement kit for the gen 1 but have not installed it yet.
I have only ran approx. 300 rnds. Each Both triggers weigh in @ approx 5lbs. Pull in semi-auto with a Lymans Electronic Digital Trigger Pull Gauge. I’m just getting the hang of the trigger. Love the double tap >>>making 8’s on my targets. Bullets right on top of each other. Still getting the rhythm down to perfection on echo mode. Time & practice is necessary. Right now I have zero complaints on the trigger. I’ll update my opinion with a few more 1000 rnds. ......the ammo guys love the trigger options available. I’m having second thoughts about reloading 5.56 now. Oh I must mention . I did the trigger pull weight on dirty triggers not fresh out of the box.....if that matters to anyone. Its great to live free and have options ! |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 10:24:21 AM EST
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Late to the party here and a bit confused. Do you need the Echo-II trigger lock if you buy the Echo-II, or is it there to turn an original Echo into an Echo-II. The Fostech site leaves a lot to be desired.
I'm also confused about the spring (and haven't read all 26 pages). I believe its to bring trigger pull weight down to a normal number, but it looks to be a custom spring. Do I have that right? |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 11:22:57 AM EST
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Late to the party here and a bit confused. Do you need the Echo-II trigger lock if you buy the Echo-II, or is it there to turn an original Echo into an Echo-II. The Fostech site leaves a lot to be desired. I'm also confused about the spring (and haven't read all 26 pages). I believe its to bring trigger pull weight down to a normal number, but it looks to be a custom spring. Do I have that right? Haven't paid attention to the spring discussion, so I can't help you there. |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 3:26:57 PM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful!
I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. "Unfortunately all sales are final
Thanks" No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 4:19:11 PM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. To which I told them that if my card was charged, then I expect the item to be in stock and shipping to me soon. No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. 
I have cancelled a few orders before they shipped (Brownells, Budsguns, etc.) and they ALWAYS gave me a refund no questions asked. |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 4:51:15 PM EST
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Late to the party here and a bit confused. Do you need the Echo-II trigger lock if you buy the Echo-II, or is it there to turn an original Echo into an Echo-II. The Fostech site leaves a lot to be desired. I'm also confused about the spring (and haven't read all 26 pages). I believe its to bring trigger pull weight down to a normal number, but it looks to be a custom spring. Do I have that right? Instructions For Spring Installation |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 9:09:34 PM EST
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I would call your cc company and they will get it reversed
I have cancelled a few orders before they shipped (Brownells, Budsguns, etc.) and they ALWAYS gave me a refund no questions asked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. To which I told them that if my card was charged, then I expect the item to be in stock and shipping to me soon. No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later.
I have cancelled a few orders before they shipped (Brownells, Budsguns, etc.) and they ALWAYS gave me a refund no questions asked. I think if I dispute the charge with the CC company, that can effect my credit. |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 9:45:11 PM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! 
What is your trigger of choice, then? |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 11:50:22 PM EST
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I just started to look into them, and ordered it before I had completed my research since it was recommended by the ARF hive as the "better" option. I finally completed my research and not surprisingly, ARF hive is wrong.
Franklin Armory's trigger is much better, for reasons I've touched upon earlier in this thread. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:23:39 AM EST
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So what mods so far are the must do? Hyperfire springs? Centurysprings? Nylon spacer? Can somebody sum it up?
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:45:16 AM EST
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when you say there are many of these triggers breaking how many is many ? i would say it's a very small percentage compared to the number of echo's out there. i've had one of these since they first came out and follow them pretty closely , including the pic of the broken disco on this page i can only remember seeing 3 or 4 pics of broken or damaged echo parts. if your looking for a trigger made of better materials that can provide fast double taps i would recommend the geissele sd3g , it will also do it cheaper than a bfs with no tuning necessary to your setup. and just a general FYI , i was talking with Pete from fostech a couple of weeks back and if you have one of the early triggers that was #'d the new trigger lock will not work with your trigger pack. if you do want the new trigger lock they will work with you on swapping out your trigger with a new one though. i opted to keep my old one as i think i have it in a happy place now  |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:36:15 AM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. To which I told them that if my card was charged, then I expect the item to be in stock and shipping to me soon. No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 8:00:38 AM EST
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So what mods so far are the must do? Hyperfire springs? Centurysprings? Nylon spacer? Can somebody sum it up? |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 12:04:25 PM EST
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I just started to look into them, and ordered it before I had completed my research since it was recommended by the ARF hive as the "better" option. I finally completed my research and not surprisingly, ARF hive is wrong. Franklin Armory's trigger is much better, for reasons I've touched upon earlier in this thread. if you plan on shooting suppressed you will need to re-tune the gun when you want to put your can on. i could never find a good middle ground tune that would run both suppressed and unsuppressed without issues |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 12:20:04 PM EST
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How do we find out if the pack needs swapped? I have an early release. I think I waited a year to get mine from the days of when they haven't even released them yet and ordered the trigger lock recently. if yours has a number engraved in the housing it won't work with the new trigger lock. 
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Posted: 10/10/2017 12:27:00 PM EST
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what happened to the 4.5lb trigger pull as advertised? |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 12:42:01 PM EST
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I was dry firing the other day and it did that let me check it might be bc i released the trigger before cycling the action but it was definitely in echo
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:19:09 PM EST
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the FA bfs 3 is a nice trigger , it has one issue that i don't like though if you plan on shooting suppressed you will need to re-tune the gun when you want to put your can on. i could never find a good middle ground tune that would run both suppressed and unsuppressed without issues  By tune, you mean what - replacement buffer springs? Different carrier group? What?
I put in an order for a BFS 3, but I'm going to cancel it if I need to swap parts every time I take the can on/off. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 5:24:24 PM EST
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I own both the echo and the BFS3. The Echo with replacement spring > BFS3>>>>>>> stock echo. The stock echo is nice because it eliminates hammer follow, but the trigger pull weights are atrocious. So between the two stock triggers, I like the BFS3. However, if you replace the spring in the echo, it is far and away the best option. Hopefully some one else who has done the modification can chime in as well. I personally put the modified echo in my favorite rifle and relegated the BFS3 to my mpx. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 5:26:33 PM EST
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what happened to the 4.5lb trigger pull as advertised? |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 5:29:22 PM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. To which I told them that if my card was charged, then I expect the item to be in stock and shipping to me soon. No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 7:14:05 PM EST
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Mine shipped out today so they are still fulfilling previously placed orders. Actually MUCH quicker than I expected given the circumstances. There might be a quicker turnaround to fulfill orders than they predict, legislation can be a buzzkill if it beats fulfilling your orders. Anyway looks like I have many pages of reading to learn more about this trigger.
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Posted: 10/11/2017 1:19:10 AM EST
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Well, that's a non-starter. Every rifle has a can on it. By tune, you mean what - replacement buffer springs? Different carrier group? What?
I put in an order for a BFS 3, but I'm going to cancel it if I need to swap parts every time I take the can on/off. when a can is added the extra back pressure requires more mass , i ran an m16 carrier and different buffers if you run adjustable gas you may be able to find a happy medium with 2 different settings instead of having to change parts , i don't run adjustable gas on any of my 5.56 di guns but i always wanted to try it. the franklin armory is a great trigger also , it has the ability to be tuned to run faster than an echo if your looking for speed but the echo is pretty much drop in and run with no tuning needed / suppressed or unsuppressed. if you run mid length or rifle length gas the bfs usually requires less tuning but i'm not sure about adding a can to these gas lengths as i've only run them with carbine gas. one plus the bfs has over the echo , atleast to me , is the reset for the second shot is on the release. with the echo the reset for the second shot is on the pull. the trigger cadence is much more natural with the bfs , with the echo it takes a little while to get used to having to pull the trigger further to the rear after the first shot has broke. after the hype dies down i want to pick up a bfs3 to put in my "HEAT" clone
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Posted: 10/11/2017 6:25:16 AM EST
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I have the Echo 1 and the Echo 2 as well as two BFS3. I must clearly be doing something wrong as the Echo1 and 2 runs fantastic and the BFS3 is adequate at best. BFS3 does excellent double taps but the Echo's mag dump for me quite easily. The only thing I don't care for on the Echo is the shortened length of the trigger.
I use an Adams arms AR, a LWRC M6 spr, and a LMT DI. My findings are consistent with either platform and with either trigger. The Echo outruns the BFS3 for me quite easily. I barely use the BFS3 even after trying various buffer weights and springs. I just couldn't ever get it to run nearly as fast as the Echo. Several of my buddies experienced the exact same thing when using my rifles. Any ideas why the BFS3 is so much slower for me?? |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 9:48:58 AM EST
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generally with a 5.56 carbine gas gun you will want a lightweight carrier with an extra power buffer spring and a carbine or h buffer when a can is added the extra back pressure requires more mass , i ran an m16 carrier and different buffers if you run adjustable gas you may be able to find a happy medium with 2 different settings instead of having to change parts , i don't run adjustable gas on any of my 5.56 di guns but i always wanted to try it. the franklin armory is a great trigger also , it has the ability to be tuned to run faster than an echo if your looking for speed but the echo is pretty much drop in and run with no tuning needed / suppressed or unsuppressed. if you run mid length or rifle length gas the bfs usually requires less tuning but i'm not sure about adding a can to these gas lengths as i've only run them with carbine gas. one plus the bfs has over the echo , atleast to me , is the reset for the second shot is on the release. with the echo the reset for the second shot is on the pull. the trigger cadence is much more natural with the bfs , with the echo it takes a little while to get used to having to pull the trigger further to the rear after the first shot has broke. after the hype dies down i want to pick up a bfs3 to put in my "HEAT" clone Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, that's a non-starter. Every rifle has a can on it. By tune, you mean what - replacement buffer springs? Different carrier group? What?
I put in an order for a BFS 3, but I'm going to cancel it if I need to swap parts every time I take the can on/off. when a can is added the extra back pressure requires more mass , i ran an m16 carrier and different buffers if you run adjustable gas you may be able to find a happy medium with 2 different settings instead of having to change parts , i don't run adjustable gas on any of my 5.56 di guns but i always wanted to try it. the franklin armory is a great trigger also , it has the ability to be tuned to run faster than an echo if your looking for speed but the echo is pretty much drop in and run with no tuning needed / suppressed or unsuppressed. if you run mid length or rifle length gas the bfs usually requires less tuning but i'm not sure about adding a can to these gas lengths as i've only run them with carbine gas. one plus the bfs has over the echo , atleast to me , is the reset for the second shot is on the release. with the echo the reset for the second shot is on the pull. the trigger cadence is much more natural with the bfs , with the echo it takes a little while to get used to having to pull the trigger further to the rear after the first shot has broke. after the hype dies down i want to pick up a bfs3 to put in my "HEAT" clone |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 11:29:03 AM EST
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Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. To which I told them that if my card was charged, then I expect the item to be in stock and shipping to me soon. No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Another reason why I wouldn't vote for echo, aside from all of its shortcomings (short unegronomic trigger, cheap and weak mim cast components, bad trigger pull) the customer service is downright awful! I placed an order on Friday (which they instantly charged my card for right away), and emailed them today that I wanted it canceled and my CC refunded as I don't want to be charged something that isn't going to ship for 2 - 3 months. I received the following email reply. "Unfortunately all sales are final
Thanks" No response from them as of yet. I despise companies that charge you up front for something that they have no intention of shipping out for months later. |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 11:44:19 AM EST
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I have the Echo 1 and the Echo 2 as well as two BFS3. I must clearly be doing something wrong as the Echo1 and 2 runs fantastic and the BFS3 is adequate at best. BFS3 does excellent double taps but the Echo's mag dump for me quite easily. The only thing I don't care for on the Echo is the shortened length of the trigger. I use an Adams arms AR, a LWRC M6 spr, and a LMT DI. My findings are consistent with either platform and with either trigger. The Echo outruns the BFS3 for me quite easily. I barely use the BFS3 even after trying various buffer weights and springs. I just couldn't ever get it to run nearly as fast as the Echo. Several of my buddies experienced the exact same thing when using my rifles. Any ideas why the BFS3 is so much slower for me?? 
when i do a mag dump with either they feel "by the seat of my pants" the same , really fast but when i've gone back to video's i've taken from the ejection side and did my best "guesstimation" on rpm i was averaging about 100 rpm more with the bfs. i calculated on my good mag dumps about 650 to 675 rpm with a bfs and about 550 to 560 with the echo. i do need to get some more video of the echo as i've got the trigger cadence down better and think i'm getting rid of those 30 rounds a little bit quicker now. i've also seen plenty of vids on youtube of people emptying a mag through a gun with an echo quicker than me , i'll admit that i'm getting old and slow. if you're getting 30 rounds through a gun in under 7 seconds with either trigger i doubt you're doing anything wrong
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Posted: 10/11/2017 12:06:14 PM EST
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Thanks for the feedback. My "go to" is a 10.5" DD Mk18 with a can. It is the only one I run an adjustable block on to reduce the "DD gas face" problem. I think I'd prefer a stock (or Geissele/Larue) trigger group for reliability and try the BFS3/Echo on something like my old reliable RRA entry tac. or DDM4v5. i would definitely put it in a fun gun and save the wear and tear on your primary. if you end up liking the trigger and have an ammo stash you'll burn through many thousands of rounds in no time. i've tried a bfs or the echo out in most of my guns but ended up putting the echo in a dedicated gun to save the wear on the others. although i do highly recommend dropping it in your mk18 for a range trip just to see how your mk18 was meant to run
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Posted: 10/11/2017 1:21:06 PM EST
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i thought DD offered correct ported barrels to those with the barrels with the monster blow holes. i would definitely put it in a fun gun and save the wear and tear on your primary. if you end up liking the trigger and have an ammo stash you'll burn through many thousands of rounds in no time. i've tried a bfs or the echo out in most of my guns but ended up putting the echo in a dedicated gun to save the wear on the others. although i do highly recommend dropping it in your mk18 for a range trip just to see how your mk18 was meant to run Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for the feedback. My "go to" is a 10.5" DD Mk18 with a can. It is the only one I run an adjustable block on to reduce the "DD gas face" problem. I think I'd prefer a stock (or Geissele/Larue) trigger group for reliability and try the BFS3/Echo on something like my old reliable RRA entry tac. or DDM4v5. i would definitely put it in a fun gun and save the wear and tear on your primary. if you end up liking the trigger and have an ammo stash you'll burn through many thousands of rounds in no time. i've tried a bfs or the echo out in most of my guns but ended up putting the echo in a dedicated gun to save the wear on the others. although i do highly recommend dropping it in your mk18 for a range trip just to see how your mk18 was meant to run As for the rest, yeah - my RRA has the most rounds through it as for years it was the one I drug to classes. I have taken my Mk18 to the last two carbine classes and except for some tuning issues with the block and some weak ass PMC .223 it has run well and will be my primary for most serious classes. For example, I waiting on the schedule for a live fire shoot house class (room clearing/active shooter III) and will take the Mk18. For the umpteenth "tactical carbine class" I will probably run the RRA or M4v5 and maybe with the BFS3 if the instructor doesn't mind. Ammo is not a problem. I'm approaching 20k 5.56 again and need to shoot up some of the older stuff. |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 4:11:51 AM EST
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Not sure what you meant by the part in blue. As for the rest, yeah - my RRA has the most rounds through it as for years it was the one I drug to classes. I have taken my Mk18 to the last two carbine classes and except for some tuning issues with the block and some weak ass PMC .223 it has run well and will be my primary for most serious classes. For example, I waiting on the schedule for a live fire shoot house class (room clearing/active shooter III) and will take the Mk18. For the umpteenth "tactical carbine class" I will probably run the RRA or M4v5 and maybe with the BFS3 if the instructor doesn't mind. Ammo is not a problem. I'm approaching 20k 5.56 again and need to shoot up some of the older stuff.
i thought i heard DD would replace the barrel in your mk18 upper with a new barrel with a crane spec'd gas port , .070 i believe , if you had bought one with the huge gas port. |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 5:44:31 AM EST
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sounds like your good on ammo
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Not sure what you meant by the part in blue. As for the rest, yeah - my RRA has the most rounds through it as for years it was the one I drug to classes. I have taken my Mk18 to the last two carbine classes and except for some tuning issues with the block and some weak ass PMC .223 it has run well and will be my primary for most serious classes. For example, I waiting on the schedule for a live fire shoot house class (room clearing/active shooter III) and will take the Mk18. For the umpteenth "tactical carbine class" I will probably run the RRA or M4v5 and maybe with the BFS3 if the instructor doesn't mind. Ammo is not a problem. I'm approaching 20k 5.56 again and need to shoot up some of the older stuff.
i thought i heard DD would replace the barrel in your mk18 upper with a new barrel with a crane spec'd gas port , .070 i believe , if you had bought one with the huge gas port. |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 3:20:40 PM EST
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I hadn't heard that, but it sounds like I need to look into it! Thanks for the heads up!
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Posted: 10/12/2017 4:38:57 PM EST
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Posted: 10/12/2017 5:01:46 PM EST
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Posted: 10/12/2017 6:02:11 PM EST
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(Wears out track package button through a touch screen)
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Posted: 10/12/2017 7:56:21 PM EST
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Posted: 10/12/2017 9:46:38 PM EST
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I hadn't heard that, but it sounds like I need to look into it! Thanks for the heads up! |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 11:06:16 PM EST
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Has anybody used the Echo 2 trigger with a CMMG dedicated 22lr upper? It doesn't look like it will work at all either in semi or in echo mode with the upper as supplied. I'm guessing that a auto sear trip from CMMG will be needed? If so, is it just a drop in? I'm not too concerned if it doesn't work reliably in echo mode, but I'd like it to work reliably in semi mode.
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Posted: 10/13/2017 1:27:12 PM EST
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So I ordered an echo on the 8th but as of the 10th they changed their site which apparently they aren't competent enough to save customer information. So now my order as far as I know no longer exists, but they sure as hell charged me for it.
Edit: I just fired off an email with my order information, I will post the results when I get them. |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 5:23:23 PM EST
[#50]
Does anyone know the length and thread pitch for the selector screw? Mine came without one.
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