My M16A4

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Iraq gets cold as hellllll, a little FYI this is where we "hygeined". There was a table with a water bull and some mirrors. Fucking sucks.

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This picture is something I'd like to point out to the AR haters. I own an AK as well as a Bushmaster and Stag, but the AR is by no means unreliable. This is how we cleaned our shit for 7 months. I *never ever ever ever* had any malfunction with my M16. Not a single time. And some days I put over 500 rounds in it...in a sandstorm. Not one single motherfucking time did my M16A4 ever jam, FTF, FTE, nothing. This is using issued USGI green follower mags and green tip ammo.

I don't know what everyone else does wrong, but FN is doing something right. No matter how good you clean it, your AR will never be clean when you're in a two man tent with an AP brush and a month old rag. But it worked. Every single time.

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One last pic because I know someone doesn't believe me about the sandstorms...

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This is my M16A4 clone based on a CMMG 20 Gov't profile A4.

If anyone needs a M5 RAS at a reasonable price: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/m5rirasquras.html

Wow, who has 1st hand delt with this site? I may have to place an order.

Ordered from them dozens of times over the last 10 years without a single issue.

What are you thinking of adding?

Pic thread:

I thought the title of this thread was M16A4(clone) Picture thread.  That last rifle doesn't even come close.

Well I'll make up for it but be warned - I have violated my A4Gery by using every available piece of rail space on my receiver;





















Wait, what?
 

Sorry guys this is my first rifle and my friend mislead me on a little info and told me to post here. My bad  if 1 of the moderators could delete my pic that be great.

Post that rifle in the M4 pic thread.  Looks good, but does not conform to the theme of this thread.

Now that is one nice looking rifle..

My newest CA-legal 10-round fixed-magazine build:

CMMG gov't profile M16A4 clone with F/A carrier
CA-legal fixed 10 round magazine kit
BlackHawk sling
Spare parts and oil stored in trapdoor stock

Keep it simple, stupid!

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My first time out, best 50 yard group:

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I got a chance to take better pictures over the weekend

















The vise on the end of the pallet is what I used to install the barrel.

Well - My purchase just came in... Here's how it went:

Ordered 1 KAC M5 Rail Kit from CDNN using above link late last Wednesday night (hold for @ $250 placed on CC, and auto order confirmation Email received).
The order was processed & item sent out by UPS Thursday. (CC actually charged, and Tracking # Email received)

Here's the tracking info:
Location                                 Date                   Local Time                Description
(@ My area), FL, US          02/23/2010              5:40 P.M.                DELIVERY  
                                          02/23/2010              7:10 A.M.               OUT FOR DELIVERY  
                                          02/23/2010              5:50 A.M.               ARRIVAL SCAN  
JACKSONVILLE, FL, US     02/23/2010              1:30 A.M.               DEPARTURE SCAN  
JACKSONVILLE, FL, US     02/22/2010             10:01 A.M.              ARRIVAL SCAN  
MONTGOMERY, AL, US      02/22/2010            12:38 A.M.              DEPARTURE SCAN  
MONTGOMERY, AL, US      02/19/2010               5:00 P.M.              ARRIVAL SCAN  
JACKSON, MS, US              02/19/2010             12:53 P.M.              DEPARTURE SCAN  
                                            02/19/2010            11:58 A.M.              ARRIVAL SCAN  
MESQUITE, TX, US               02/19/2010              4:42 A.M.              DEPARTURE SCAN  
MESQUITE, TX, US               02/18/2010             11:53 P.M.              ARRIVAL SCAN  
ABILENE, TX, US                  02/18/2010               8:13 P.M.              DEPARTURE SCAN  
                                           02/18/2010                8:01 P.M.              ORIGIN SCAN  
US                                        02/18/2010                6:36 P.M.             BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED  

Tracking showed nothing moved over the weekend (though indicated item as "on time")
Item received on appointed day @ 6pm courtesy UPS... So @ a week's total time. Not too bad IMO.
The Kit received was the older style (uses the non-captured, allen head type retainer screw), but arrived in PERFECT condition!
It was Sealed, with No Dents/Dings/Scratches/Ect. Decent Black coloring (not "purple"). What arrived was the complete military kit which included the upper & lower rail assemblies, the full set of all the various length rail cover panels (10 covers total), a KAC vertical fore grip, the M203 barrel stop adapter, a vinyl storage pouch, and the KAC installation instuctions. Not sure who (probably CDNN), removed the original military labeling off the box (cut out), but I'm not really that concerned with discovering CDNN's .mil supply sources.

Based on the above experience, I will in all likeliness soon be purchasing a second set from them for my dedicated .22lr trainer A4 build...

FlDiveCop71 (one really happy basturd )

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Can you go into more detail about this? Im trying to decide between a KAC M5 and an omega 12.0. I want something that locks up tight, and wont have any flex in it. Are the "newer" KAC rails tighter?

well, my new upper came in today... :)













-Joe

You can't get much tighter than a KAC M5 RAS.


Edit to add: Page 38 ownage, now I need to find a pic to post or take another!

Not an M16A4 clone, gotta make the Irish dude happy.

Is this an M16A4 clone?

haha yeah, definately an M4 clone... but a real good one at that. ;)

-Joe

Ok, though it's still a work in progress (just added the KAC M5 RAS), here's some pics of my M16A4 clone...

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The kit came with a VFG (not shown), which (owing partially to past mil experience with this rail system) I decided to mount on my m4 carbine clone instead. I've found that with the VFG mounted @ the center of lower rail of the M5 ras, the lower rail will flex slightly when even mild lateral pressure is applied to the VFG. Though I know this to be "normal" for the KAC M5, I prefer not to subject the lower rail to such forces unless truly necessary (Just my personal preference - YMMV). I don't however notice this type of flex when using the VFG with the M4 carbine RAS.  
Aside from the lower rail flex (when using a VFG), there is no other movement out of the entire M5 system that I'm able to perceive, and the top rail is absolutely immobile & inflexible.

For this clone project I next plan on looking into getting a better sling system as well as a butt stock mag pouch. After that I'll have to decide whether to take the plunge on optics with this project, or switch gears & finish my dedicated .22lr build...

FlDiveCop71

SPECS:

BCM 20" gov't profile Upper Receiver Group  1/7 twist,  chrome, MP, HP, F Front Sight Base
BCM  BCG
Doublestar Lower Receiver w Colt Interntals
KAC M5 RAS w Rail Covers and Vertical Grip
MaTech BUIS
LaRue LT-707 weapon light mount
Surefire G2 Light OD
Trijicon TA-31F w/TA-51 Mount and Kill Flash
Eagle Industries TAS-1 Sling OD
Eagle Indistried Buttstock Mag Pouch OD
USGI Mags with Magpul Followers[/span]

































[span style='font-size: 18pt;']Here is a preview of my next A4 Build[/span]

Just an observation, but the top rail in this photo is improperly mounted... (the spring tang is suppose to rest inside/underneath the front end cap, not on top of it...)

On a side note: That's one really nice weapon system you have set up there. I'm actually rather envious of it.

Hope this helps...
FlDiveCop71

Thanks FIDiveCop71!!! I fixed it.  Not sure how I over looked it, but it is right now...

That is an excellent 'civvie' M16A4. I don't think you could get any better than that. You seem to be ready for 'the 'Stan'. Short of that, you're going to have to get it dirty and wear off some finish to get 'the look'. That's the part I hate - 'aging' it after going to all that trouble and expense. I'm working on a puny carbine version (middie) but am actually looking forward to shooting it -  hopefully a lot more than I ever shot my true carbines.

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Do the usmc issue a4's use the 6/3 marked carry handle?

All detachable carry handles are marked 6/3 on the elevation wheel. I used to think that there was an 8/3 marked detachable handle too

Okay, I guess I learned something tonight. How accurate are the ranging marks on the elevation drum when used with the 20" barrel?

I just built my A4gery with a BCM upper and I couldn't be happier. Unfortunately I am a noob with this forum thing and I don't have access to a good camera yet

dayphotog

Is that an issue or personal weapon?  Specs?

I'm gonna say its personal. I dont see an auto/burst sear pin and the stock would be as black as the pistol grip if it was an issued FN.

Yea I wish it was my issued rifle. Not in anymore but I built as close as I could to current specs with the funds that I had. CMMG gov profile upper, Old preban bushmaster lower, correct acog, Kac, grip pod, Old beat up surplus stock. Not sure on sling but I got it off the EE, and Kyloned magazine.

this is my favorite rifle

Took all the little barbie accessories off to make it a basic pic.

-Top and bottom receiver Colt large hole, no sear block, with a fence.
-20" D marked barrel
-Nightforce 2.5-10 optic
-ADM mount
-KAC rear BUIS
-KAC RAS
-KAC trigger
-M93 stock, marked "Experimental"
-Magpul pistol grip
-PRI handle
-Bottom emergency flare launcher

I could have swore when the rifle was first contracted out and delivered, it didn't have the M5 fore end, can anyone confirm?

Based on my research, it seems that the army uses a few M16A4s without the rail and adds MWS to the name for those with a rail.

A friend of mine who's serving in Iraq (Army) sent me pictures of his FN A4. It has standard A2 handguards, an Aimpoint CCO, and no BUIS.

Pictures he sent:

I'm not sure at all. I would think (and I may be wrong) that an A4 won't be as accurate as an A2 out to 800 meters. The A2 has elevation adjustments for 800 meters, while the A4 only has adjustments for 600 meters.

This thread should probably be renamed the M16A4 Clone Picture & Discussion Thread

Picture thread:

koldt: what brand flare launcher is that? most flare guns look so lame, that actually looks like a 203.

thanks

-Joe