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Posted: 6/1/2016 9:27:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Jeez, what a beauty. Don't know about you, but I have always been into bayonets. Don't even know why; I think they look super cool, wether if fixed on (some) rifles or even on their own, as blades. Cool post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Snip Bayonet stuff Jeez, what a beauty. Don't know about you, but I have always been into bayonets. Don't even know why; I think they look super cool, wether if fixed on (some) rifles or even on their own, as blades. Cool post. Thanks. 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 2:26:32 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
So, after consulting with a manufacturer of .gov UID labels, I've decided to take my clone builds just a liiittle bit closer to being more "ofishul" & will soon be forking out just over $300 to have 50 or so custom-made, .gov "certified", UID labels manufactured & shipped to my home address. At roughly $6 each as shipped to me, I don't find it all that bad a rate, all things considered... Yes, it's a lot of money, but at that cost range, it allows me to have 6 different MFG-CAGE-code/Part# combinations certified, manufactured, and shipped - so in the end, I'll have labels for not only my A4 clones, but also my M4A1 clones, A2 clones, & even the A1 clones as well...Yeah - technically the A1s don't really need them as I'm not even sure there are still any left in.gov inventories to put labels on, but since I happen to be "re-commissioning" an M12 rifle rack at the same time, and it has an A1 clone in it, I figure I might as well stick a label on it the same as all it's neighbors in the rack... just to make it more "o-fishul" & all... 
Here's what I'm going with design-wise... The labels themselves will be printed on 1.75 inch x 0.5 inch Tesa Label material (same stuff as used on issued weapons) All the A4 labels will be printed in what I like to call "FN Format", as I've only ever seen this type of label layout used on FN A4s: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/UID2.png They use "MFG" instead of "CAGE", use serial numbers that consist only of numbering (no lettering is used in the serial number) and have all of the "info" printed in a single, verticle, left-justified column, with the data matrix printed on the far right of the label. Whereas - All of the Colt labels I'm having made (for A1s, A2s, M4A1s) will be in this format: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/UID4.png Which uses "CAGE" instead of "MFG", generally uses serial numbers starting with a "W", and have all of the "info" organized into two vertical, independently left justified columns also with it's data matrix on the far right like the FN's. Oddly, there have been a few of these labels that have had the information in these columns right-justified... http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/16361331796_8a3152ccb2_b.jpg Both from what I recall as well as having researched since, most of these 1.75 inch x 0.5 inch labels have been placed primarily on weapons that have either been rebuilt, reassigned to alternate service, or otherwise at some point required their original round, or 0.75 x 0.75 labels (if the weapon ever had them to begin with) to be replaced. Newly constructed weapons appear to primarily be using 0.75 inch x 0.75 inch labels in this format, though I have yet to see any of these in use on any M16A4s: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/UID6.png They appear to be being used on pretty much everything, except A4s... (go figure). Along with having labels produced with my weapons' actual serial numbers, I decided to have a number of the labels produced with "generic" serial numbers representing the particular weapon's official adoption date by the military, for example: The M16A4's official adoption date is July 29th, 1997...So the "generic" serial number (FN) label I'm having produced will read: MFG 3S679 PART # 12973001 SERIAL # 07291997 ...with the data matrix, of course, being placed on the right side of the label as pictured in the first pic above. Does this seem like a reasonable approach to creating a generic A4 label?... or does the hive perhaps have a better idea? My purchase order has yet to actually be proto-typed or funds laid down, so I'm wandering if maybe the hive has a better perspective on this? FlDiveCop71 I have similar stickers on my M4 and M4A1 clones in both the rectangular (M4) and square (M4A1) formats. Mine are serial # specific to each gun, but I like your idea of a weapon's adoption date as the serial. I think a lot of people would love to have these labels for their clones. Any chance you can get the label maker to make some repro data plate stickers for M12 weapons racks? I'd pay big bucks for those to use on the one in my living room and others that are in worse shape. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:41:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
I have similar stickers on my M4 and M4A1 clones in both the rectangular (M4) and square (M4A1) formats. Mine are serial # specific to each gun, but I like your idea of a weapon's adoption date as the serial. I think a lot of people would love to have these labels for their clones. <span style="color: red;">Any chance you can get the label maker to make some repro data plate stickers for M12 weapons racks? I'd pay big bucks for those to use on the one in my living room and others that are in worse shape. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile  Attached FileIf so, I can only say that the production process required to make such a label, is somewhat different than that of a standard UID label, and while I too would like to find a source that could reproduce them, I'm not at all certain that the lasers these UID label makers use are even capable of imitating the process. I will ask though the next time I'm in contact with him. Feel free to copy my picture above. Perhaps you can photoshop a workable facsimile that can be reproduced on a home laser printer? I don't know - Good luck in your hunt. Back on topic... 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:29:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
I assume that you are referring to a label such as this one?: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0356.jpg If so, I can only say that the production process required to make such a label, is somewhat different than that of a standard UID label, and while I too would like to find a source that could reproduce them, I'm not at all certain that the lasers these UID label makers use are even capable of imitating the process. I will ask though the next time I'm in contact with him. Feel free to copy my picture above. Perhaps you can photoshop a workable facsimile that can be reproduced on a home laser printer? I don't know - Good luck in your hunt. Back on topic... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/6th_Marine_Rgt._in_action_in_Marja_2010-02-13.jpg FlDiveCop71 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
I have similar stickers on my M4 and M4A1 clones in both the rectangular (M4) and square (M4A1) formats. Mine are serial # specific to each gun, but I like your idea of a weapon's adoption date as the serial. I think a lot of people would love to have these labels for their clones. Any chance you can get the label maker to make some repro data plate stickers for M12 weapons racks? I'd pay big bucks for those to use on the one in my living room and others that are in worse shape. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I assume that you are referring to a label such as this one?: http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0356.jpg If so, I can only say that the production process required to make such a label, is somewhat different than that of a standard UID label, and while I too would like to find a source that could reproduce them, I'm not at all certain that the lasers these UID label makers use are even capable of imitating the process. I will ask though the next time I'm in contact with him. Feel free to copy my picture above. Perhaps you can photoshop a workable facsimile that can be reproduced on a home laser printer? I don't know - Good luck in your hunt. Back on topic... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/6th_Marine_Rgt._in_action_in_Marja_2010-02-13.jpg FlDiveCop71 My God that rack sticker is incredible. That may be very useful. If I do get some made I'll make sure to send you some. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 4:10:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
My God that rack sticker is incredible. That may be very useful. If I do get some made I'll make sure to send you some. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So, I mic'd it out & after talking with a few label manufactures have determined that the M12 Rack label is a 3" x 4.5" adhesive-backed .005" thick aluminum foil label in which the "black" facing (silkscreen) has been heat-transferred onto the aluminum surface. They say that this type of label can be reproduced, though the hard part would be 1 - coming up with a clean/clear image (silkscreen), and 2 - that it would be very cost prohibitive to reproduce due to requiring the purchase of an approximately 2000' roll of the .005 adhesive-backed aluminum label & screening material itself.... so not sure how helpful (or not) that info is to you... In other closer-to-topic news however... My initial UID Weapon Label project is now in the "Card Charged & Product Shipped" phase of completion, and thus should finally be arriving at my door sometime the middle of next week. I'm soo stoked. It's been a hell of a journey / learning experience getting these things all set-up & figured out, and while this may only be a small initial run of 50 or so various labels, the good news is that now that all the majority of details have been worked out, any successive runs will not only be easier, but much cheaper to reproduce. Now I guess it's time for me to see about maybe picking up a laser optic, or two... 
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Posted: 6/3/2016 6:07:29 PM EST
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Do any of you guys happen to have a higher quality version of the 3 ID A4 photo? There are a couple details I can't quite make out that I'm curious about.
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Posted: 6/3/2016 8:17:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: Keekleberrys]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
. do they all have the ega and usmc markings? |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 8:45:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys:
do they all have the ega and usmc markings? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
. do they all have the ega and usmc markings? All of the grip handles have the eagle/globe/anchor molded into one side & "USMC" molded into the other. What's different between the .Mil issue & commercial versions is that the military issue bayonets have "USMC" (as well as all the other text) physically stamped into the blade material itself rather than it being laser etched, and the "USMC" is stamped into the blade on the side opposite of the "USMC" molded into the grip (so that "USMC" is visible from either side of the bayonet). So basically - The military versions have "USMC" on the blade & the commercial ones don't. |
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Posted: 6/3/2016 9:07:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
All of the grip handles have the eagle/globe/anchor molded into one side & "USMC" molded into the other. What's different between the .Mil issue & commercial versions is that the military issue bayonets have "USMC" (as well as all the other text) physically stamped into the blade material itself rather than it being laser etched, and the "USMC" is stamped into the blade on the side opposite of the "USMC" molded into the grip (so that "USMC" is visible from either side of the bayonet). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
. do they all have the ega and usmc markings? All of the grip handles have the eagle/globe/anchor molded into one side & "USMC" molded into the other. What's different between the .Mil issue & commercial versions is that the military issue bayonets have "USMC" (as well as all the other text) physically stamped into the blade material itself rather than it being laser etched, and the "USMC" is stamped into the blade on the side opposite of the "USMC" molded into the grip (so that "USMC" is visible from either side of the bayonet). Ah. I don't care that much about that. I might still get one. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:39:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 64cyclone]
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Added a KAC VFG. Waiting on a McKay lower to replace this Anderson.
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Posted: 6/4/2016 3:00:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
My UID Label project is getting closer to completion... Here's a paper cutout of one of the generic FN label proofs. Still have to make a few minor corrections (change the "O" in the serial # to a zero, equalize the data matrix with the information height & overall size-wise, ect.), but should have the final proofs worked out by Friday, & some actual labels received shortly thereafter. 
Please excuse the crappy cell pics as my camera has yet to receive it's upgrade... http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0305.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0316.jpg FlDiveCop71 Do newer LT100 mounts now have the levers on the right side? I have two that are a few years old, and they have the levers on the left side. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 5:20:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 64cyclone:
Added a KAC VFG. Waiting on a McKay lower to replace this Anderson. http://i.imgur.com/AyVURSi.jpg You made a good decision. I built this one using a McKay Ent. lower. 
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Posted: 6/4/2016 7:30:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Nameless_Hobo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
I have similar stickers on my M4 and M4A1 clones in both the rectangular (M4) and square (M4A1) formats. Mine are serial # specific to each gun, but I like your idea of a weapon's adoption date as the serial. I think a lot of people would love to have these labels for their clones. Any chance you can get the label maker to make some repro data plate stickers for M12 weapons racks? I'd pay big bucks for those to use on the one in my living room and others that are in worse shape. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'd like to have one for an A4. I've got a square one on my 10.3" already. ETA with a shitty picture. This is what I've collected so far. 
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Posted: 6/4/2016 9:59:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Darkstar117:
Do newer LT100 mounts now have the levers on the right side? I have two that are a few years old, and they have the levers on the left side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Darkstar117:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
My UID Label project is getting closer to completion... Here's a paper cutout of one of the generic FN label proofs. Still have to make a few minor corrections (change the "O" in the serial # to a zero, equalize the data matrix with the information height & overall size-wise, ect.), but should have the final proofs worked out by Friday, & some actual labels received shortly thereafter.
Please excuse the crappy cell pics as my camera has yet to receive it's upgrade... http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0305.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0316.jpg FlDiveCop71 Do newer LT100 mounts now have the levers on the right side? I have two that are a few years old, and they have the levers on the left side. Sadly, no... The mount you see in my pic is an LT622. If you want the levers on the right, you need to purchase either an LT622, an LT622-SDO (has multiple mounting holes), or an LT681. Of all the ACOG mounts, the LT681 is probably the best choice, as it only requires one lever (which locks on the right hand side), and can be mounted the farthest back on the upper in order to achieve the best eye relief without obstructing your ability to pull the charging handle back. FlDiveCop71
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Posted: 6/5/2016 2:27:21 PM EST
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Newest pic of mine, put the ACOG back on and added a KAC 600m rear.
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Posted: 6/7/2016 6:29:33 PM EST
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What A2 stock kits are yall' using?
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Posted: 6/7/2016 6:44:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
What A2 stock kits are yall' using? On the latest A4 I built, I used a White Oak Armament A2 stock assembly. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 9:27:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
On the latest A4 I built, I used a White Oak Armament A2 stock assembly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
What A2 stock kits are yall' using? On the latest A4 I built, I used a White Oak Armament A2 stock assembly. Those look really nice and the price is right, thanks! |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 8:05:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Good write up Mike, but there are always exceptions. I just received 3ea M16A4 upper receivers (go back one page to see) that are dated 10/05 and 06/14 and produced by FN. All three have rifle feed ramps with no markings on above the gas tube port. Never did get the 3 M16A4 bbls I requested so the got A2 bbls (non F marked FSB and rifle cuts on barrel extensions). M5 RAS that I received were KAC uppers and P&S lower halfs. I installed side sling swivel mounts to the FSB. I give the shooter his choice of either MaTech or KAC 600m BUIS, as I have both to issue. Starting to see more active duty Army units going north with M16A2s and M16A4s this year then last where very few M16s were seen. M16A2 are usually slicked topped (ie no optics) 50/50 round/RAS handguards where the M16A4s all have RAS and an optic. CD Interesting post, while when in Iraq in 2004/5 I saw probably 50/50 rifles vs carbines , when I was in Afghanistan in 08 I saw very few full length rifles, and was under the impression ( apparently incorrect) that all services were transitioning to carbines. I lugged an A4 in Iraq and and m4 in Afghanistan myself. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 8:25:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captain127:
Interesting post, while when in Iraq in 2004/5 I saw probably 50/50 rifles vs carbines , when I was in Afghanistan in 08 I saw very few full length rifles, and was under the impression ( apparently incorrect) that all services were transitioning to carbines. I lugged an A4 in Iraq and and m4 in Afghanistan myself. Sadly, it looks like the USMC will finally be moving away from the A4 later this year... 
This coming July 29th, will mark 19 years that the weapon has officially been in service... |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 5:34:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Posted: 6/8/2016 6:06:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71: So... as for my UID label project... http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0359b.jpg Now I just have to decide what will go where...  Beauty! Congrats. I like things well done. |
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Posted: 6/11/2016 9:07:52 AM EST
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Posted: 6/11/2016 6:14:50 PM EST
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Got an email from Midway -- surplus buttstock mag pouches are $9 link
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Posted: 6/11/2016 10:58:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThey look like the Specter. And they are grade 1, new and or unissued. |
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Posted: 6/11/2016 10:59:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
They look like the Specter. And they are grade 1, new and or unissued. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
They look like the Specter. And they are grade 1, new and or unissued. $15 shipped for me, nice
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Posted: 6/11/2016 11:01:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: They look like the Specter. And they are grade 1, new and or unissued. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: They look like the Specter. And they are grade 1, new and or unissued. They are Specter. If you browse through the pictures and see the one with the pouch open, you'll see the brand tag sewn on the inside of the pouch cover |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 6:03:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Posted: 6/14/2016 8:32:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Interestingly enough, these are both about the same weight when empty / unloaded. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/IMAG0366B.jpg Both muskets looks fantastic 
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Posted: 6/14/2016 11:50:02 PM EST
[#30]
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now.
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Posted: 6/15/2016 1:08:27 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now. Which brand did you go with? |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 1:19:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Which brand did you go with? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now. Which brand did you go with? Ballistic Advantage, because I'm a bad clone builder, I'm hoping it'll be decently accurate because I'm going to try to waste my time shooting in service rifle competitions with it.
I'm also going to free float it with the RAS on a national match sleeve. |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 6:51:05 AM EST
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Pretty much everything you'd expect in a USA A4 clone. :) With a different sling and light. No pics, and it doesn't really fit now. But the fixed stock is gone for now, so is the quad rail. The rifle is more now of a combo "M16A5" and a Canadian C7A2. |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 7:09:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Flag:
<a href="http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/jackflagusa/media/DSC02128_zpsqogjvxpd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p496/jackflagusa/DSC02128_zpsqogjvxpd.jpg</a> Pretty much everything you'd expect in a USA A4 clone. :) With a different sling and light. No pics, and it doesn't really fit now. But the fixed stock is gone for now, so is the quad rail. The rifle is more now of a combo "M16A5" and a Canadian C7A2. What did you write on your ejection port door? |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 8:28:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Ballistic Advantage, because I'm a bad clone builder, I'm hoping it'll be decently accurate because I'm going to try to waste my time shooting in service rifle competitions with it.
I'm also going to free float it with the RAS on a national match sleeve. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now. Which brand did you go with? Ballistic Advantage, because I'm a bad clone builder, I'm hoping it'll be decently accurate because I'm going to try to waste my time shooting in service rifle competitions with it.
I'm also going to free float it with the RAS on a national match sleeve. I'm torn between using BA and Windham Weaponry. I prefer the park finish on the WW but they only offer a non F marked FSB. I guess I could always get a +.040" fsp for it if need be. |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 9:28:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
I'm torn between using BA and Windham Weaponry. I prefer the park finish on the WW but they only offer a non F marked FSB. I guess I could always get a +.040" fsp for it if need be. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now. Which brand did you go with? Ballistic Advantage, because I'm a bad clone builder, I'm hoping it'll be decently accurate because I'm going to try to waste my time shooting in service rifle competitions with it.
I'm also going to free float it with the RAS on a national match sleeve. I'm torn between using BA and Windham Weaponry. I prefer the park finish on the WW but they only offer a non F marked FSB. I guess I could always get a +.040" fsp for it if need be. The WW barrel assembly works great with either an A2 or A4 receiver. I bought the complete WW upper assembly for my latest A4 build and it did not even need any adjustment to the FSP for a 50 yd. sight-in. I use the detachable carrying handle on this A4. |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 10:46:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
The WW barrel assembly works great with either an A2 or A4 receiver. I bought the complete WW upper assembly for my latest A4 build and it did not even need any adjustment to the FSP for a 50 yd. sight-in. I use the detachable carrying handle on this A4. Good deal, thanks man! |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 5:50:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
What did you write on your ejection port door? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By Jack_Flag:
<a href="http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/jackflagusa/media/DSC02128_zpsqogjvxpd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p496/jackflagusa/DSC02128_zpsqogjvxpd.jpg</a> Pretty much everything you'd expect in a USA A4 clone. :) With a different sling and light. No pics, and it doesn't really fit now. But the fixed stock is gone for now, so is the quad rail. The rifle is more now of a combo "M16A5" and a Canadian C7A2. What did you write on your ejection port door? Just me being a dummy  It just says "USA" four times.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 1:57:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: Nameless_Hobo]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
I'm torn between using BA and Windham Weaponry. I prefer the park finish on the WW but they only offer a non F marked FSB. I guess I could always get a +.040" fsp for it if need be. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Should be a new A4gery born by this time next week. I'm waiting on a barrel, now. Which brand did you go with? Ballistic Advantage, because I'm a bad clone builder, I'm hoping it'll be decently accurate because I'm going to try to waste my time shooting in service rifle competitions with it.
I'm also going to free float it with the RAS on a national match sleeve. I'm torn between using BA and Windham Weaponry. I prefer the park finish on the WW but they only offer a non F marked FSB. I guess I could always get a +.040" fsp for it if need be. I was planning on hitting the BA barrel with some high temp grill paint to dull the finish. The grill paint looks pretty close to park. 
Kind of a shitty picture of what I've been doing. I wanted to preserve the plastic covers here because the RAS looks weird to me without them. I had to do some serious jerry rigging, but I believe it will look decent when I get done cleaning it up.Yes, it's aesthetic bullshit, but that's cloning, isn't it? I haven't decided if I'm going cut slots to preserve the look of the ventilation holes or not, but I probably will. I should have a decently believable M16A4 "clone" that's free floated and fairly accurate when I'm done. ETA with a mockup. Trijicon sent my ACOG back from getting some repairs done and, for some reason, replaced the tritium without charging. I'm not complaining. 
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Posted: 6/17/2016 9:59:17 PM EST
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If you want a cheap spray option that matches parking well, check out Rustoleums Automotive Primer. It has a charcoal colored cap. Not quite gray, not quite black.... |
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Posted: 6/17/2016 10:56:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
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Posted: 6/18/2016 9:14:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
<a href="http://s612.photobucket.com/user/americancheese1/media/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt202/americancheese1/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg</a> Working on Acog... Seems to be missing more than just an ACOG...like perhaps an A2 stock?, or a 20" barrel?, or a proper forward assist; safety lever; flash suppressor; or even a correct magazine?... I don't know - I'm just not seeing the resemblance to an A4 clone here other than the KAC M5 rail. Nice Rifle though... |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 9:24:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Seems to be missing more than just an ACOG...like perhaps an A2 stock?, or a 20" barrel?, or a proper forward assist; safety lever; flash suppressor; or even a correct magazine?... I don't know - I'm just not seeing the resemblance to an A4 clone here other than the KAC M5 rail. Nice Rifle though... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
<a href="http://s612.photobucket.com/user/americancheese1/media/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt202/americancheese1/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg</a> Working on Acog... Seems to be missing more than just an ACOG...like perhaps an A2 stock?, or a 20" barrel?, or a proper forward assist; safety lever; flash suppressor; or even a correct magazine?... I don't know - I'm just not seeing the resemblance to an A4 clone here other than the KAC M5 rail. Nice Rifle though... Kac rear is correct, as is sling mount, furniture, A1 and sopmod stocks have been seen in the wild as well as 20 round GI mags. What exactly is a proper forward assist? But yeah...it's closer to an SPR build. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:50:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Kac rear is correct, as is sling mount, furniture, A1 and sopmod stocks have been seen in the wild as well as 20 round GI mags. What exactly is a proper forward assist? But yeah...it's closer to an SPR build. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
<a href="http://s612.photobucket.com/user/americancheese1/media/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt202/americancheese1/97201e91-bf1c-40b7-ae14-26b6d5050e24_zpstjtnnpdd.jpg</a> Working on Acog... Seems to be missing more than just an ACOG...like perhaps an A2 stock?, or a 20" barrel?, or a proper forward assist; safety lever; flash suppressor; or even a correct magazine?... I don't know - I'm just not seeing the resemblance to an A4 clone here other than the KAC M5 rail. Nice Rifle though... Kac rear is correct, as is sling mount, furniture, A1 and sopmod stocks have been seen in the wild as well as 20 round GI mags. What exactly is a proper forward assist? But yeah...it's closer to an SPR build. Kind of the down side of cloning an A4, there's not as much variety as the SOPMOD guns, since they mostly were issued to units without much flexibility in swapping parts. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:29:32 AM EST
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What would be the correct sling setup for an M16A4? I only had a very brief time with an A4 before we went to the M4 so I have no recollection of that time period
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:10:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: What would be the correct sling setup for an M16A4? I only had a very brief time with an A4 before we went to the M4 so I have no recollection of that time period For USMC try the Blue Force Gear NSN sling, with the stock adapter and forward rail mount. All from BFG. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:57:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256:
What would be the correct sling setup for an M16A4? I only had a very brief time with an A4 before we went to the M4 so I have no recollection of that time period I had a plain black strap. I got my barrel today. Have to do some final fitting, and then I can get it torqued in place. So, one final mockup, because why not. 
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:22:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
For USMC try the Blue Force Gear NSN sling, with the stock adapter and forward rail mount. All from BFG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By cone256:
What would be the correct sling setup for an M16A4? I only had a very brief time with an A4 before we went to the M4 so I have no recollection of that time period For USMC try the Blue Force Gear NSN sling, with the stock adapter and forward rail mount. All from BFG. This is the set up I went with. Like it a lot. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 12:46:38 AM EST
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I have a fondness for the firearms community, a preference for the AR15 community, but a special place in my heart for the AR15.com Team.
A long time member here reached out to me with a gift for no reason other than he's a badass dude, and sent me this IUID sticker!! My M16A4 clone is now 87,000 times cooler than it ever would have been :) Thank you Sir! CAGE is FN, P/N is M16A4, and S/N is the date of when the M16A4 was adopted (29JUL1997) How fricken cool is that?! 
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Posted: 6/21/2016 4:33:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
For USMC try the Blue Force Gear NSN sling, with the stock adapter and forward rail mount. All from BFG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By cone256:
What would be the correct sling setup for an M16A4? I only had a very brief time with an A4 before we went to the M4 so I have no recollection of that time period For USMC try the Blue Force Gear NSN sling, with the stock adapter and forward rail mount. All from BFG. OK thanks! |
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