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Posted: 12/13/2019 10:56:21 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9537_JPG-1193965.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9538_JPG-1193966.JPG CD 
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Posted: 12/13/2019 12:30:50 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
TA01NSN has a crosshair style reticle with BDC and only tritium. TA31RCO has Chevron reticle with BDC and fiber optic (day) illum as well as tritium (low light illum). I prefer the TA31 overall. The TA01NSN was better for taking precision shots at 100 to 300 meters than the RCO |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 1:10:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: When did the TA31 get into the mix? That seems like a Marine Corp thing? I assume the TA01NSN is the most clone correct. CD |
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Posted: 12/13/2019 1:12:20 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: When did the TA31 get into the mix? That seems like a Marine Corp thing? I assume the TA01NSN is the most clone correct. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2019 1:54:37 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
No, Block I had the side swivel mount under the FSB. http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/07/01/1828993_01_kac_ras_kit_colt_side_mount_fr_640.jpg CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By Blacktridenttactical:
What year did the “CQD rear sling mount” come out? Would it be kosher for a sopmod block 1? http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/07/01/1828993_01_kac_ras_kit_colt_side_mount_fr_640.jpg CD 
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Posted: 12/13/2019 2:15:47 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134:
Pretty sure he was talking about this one. https://i.imgur.com/esRP629.jpg?1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By Blacktridenttactical:
What year did the “CQD rear sling mount” come out? Would it be kosher for a sopmod block 1? http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/07/01/1828993_01_kac_ras_kit_colt_side_mount_fr_640.jpg CD https://i.imgur.com/esRP629.jpg?1 I missed that completely as well. |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 1:34:35 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
TA01NSN was what SOCOM purchased back in 95’. TA31/M150 was what big Army purchased after 01’ CD |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 8:19:12 AM EST
[#8]
This one is almost done. I just need to figure the sling out.
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Posted: 12/16/2019 8:54:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DBrock07:
This one is almost done. I just need to figure the sling out. https://i.imgur.com/nbschau.jpg CD |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 7:38:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: stinkypol]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Block I sling is easy to figure out as only one sling was issued. Standard USGI 1" silent sling, black nylon web. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By DBrock07:
This one is almost done. I just need to figure the sling out. https://i.imgur.com/nbschau.jpg CD 
One can spend hours looking at pictures trying to figure out these details. |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 9:32:18 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stinkypol: Stuff is so simple it's hard.....
One can spend hours looking at pictures trying to figure out these details.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 12:52:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: Guntoter]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MandPdude:
I use the ALG QMS trigger and it's an improvement over the stock BCM trigger I had. I went with the QMS because I didn't want a nickle boron trigger on my clone rifle.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 10:06:55 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter:
I just received the ALG QMS trigger group and installed it in my Colt Block 1. What a sweet, smooth trigger it is! Its a forged Schmid Tool trigger group, same as milspec and Colt, but without the notch cut in the top front of the hammer like Colt does. Came complete with trigger, hammer, disconnector and all springs and .001" oversize pins and a very smooth hammer notch and trigger sear face. Can't wait to shoot it. It feels as good as the LaRue MBT and the Geissele I installed in my sons AR, but in single stage. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137/ALG_QMS_hammer_jpg-1199491.JPG |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 6:07:55 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter:
I just received the ALG QMS trigger group and installed it in my Colt Block 1. What a sweet, smooth trigger it is! Its a forged Schmid Tool trigger group, same as milspec and Colt, but without the notch cut in the top front of the hammer like Colt does. Came complete with trigger, hammer, disconnector and all springs and .001" oversize pins and a very smooth hammer notch and trigger sear face. Can't wait to shoot it. It feels as good as the LaRue MBT and the Geissele I installed in my sons AR, but in single stage. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137/ALG_QMS_hammer_jpg-1199491.JPG |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 6:10:05 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4arc:
I've been thinking of doing the exactly same thing because the OEM trigger is awful. I was trying to stay as close to clone correct & OEM as possible but I might need to buy a QMS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4arc:
Originally Posted By Guntoter:
I just received the ALG QMS trigger group and installed it in my Colt Block 1. What a sweet, smooth trigger it is! Its a forged Schmid Tool trigger group, same as milspec and Colt, but without the notch cut in the top front of the hammer like Colt does. Came complete with trigger, hammer, disconnector and all springs and .001" oversize pins and a very smooth hammer notch and trigger sear face. Can't wait to shoot it. It feels as good as the LaRue MBT and the Geissele I installed in my sons AR, but in single stage. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137/ALG_QMS_hammer_jpg-1199491.JPG |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:03:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 100roundclipazine]
[#16]
Dont expect too much from the QMS triggers. I have 5 right now and 2 are pretty gritty and feel about as good as the standard mil spec trigger. The other 3 are pretty good.
My best QMS, on a 1-10, 10 being the nicest single stage trigger and 1 being the absolute bottom barrel functioning trigger, I would rate it a 6. The 2 bad ones are like a 4. One thing they all have for me is a consistent break. Just gritty out the box. My brother did the ACT hammer, springs, and pins, and disconnector, but threw on the QMS trigger since he wanted the black trigger, and its pretty smooth. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:36:35 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 100roundclipazine:
My brother did the ACT hammer, springs, and pins, and disconnector, but threw on the QMS trigger since he wanted the black trigger, and its pretty smooth. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:51:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 100roundclipazine]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: I've considered this more than once.... |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 5:44:43 PM EST
[#19]
Picked up a CompM2 and Matech for my Block I build. Going to pick up some CQD mounts and a Surefire M951 at some point. Ultimately I’d like to get a TA01NSN for it.
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Posted: 12/20/2019 6:37:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4arc: I've been thinking of doing the exactly same thing because the OEM trigger is awful. I was trying to stay as close to clone correct & OEM as possible but I might need to buy a QMS. |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 10:57:16 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006:
Picked up a CompM2 and Matech for my Block I build. Going to pick up some CQD mounts and a Surefire M951 at some point. Ultimately I’d like to get a TA01NSN for it. https://i.imgur.com/NHIKjTG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pvvMwgn.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 10:59:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4arc: I've been thinking of doing the exactly same thing because the OEM trigger is awful. I was trying to stay as close to clone correct & OEM as possible but I might need to buy a QMS. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 7:07:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: DC2FA5]
[#23]
I’m considering an Ergo extension on my Colt, can anyone confirm that the side sling swivel is a no-go with the extension?
Pic thread. 
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Posted: 12/21/2019 9:07:10 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DC2FA5:
I’m considering an Ergo extension on my Colt, can anyone confirm that the side sling swivel is a no-go with the extension? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:15:32 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DC2FA5:
I’m considering an Ergo extension on my Colt, can anyone confirm that the side sling swivel is a no-go with the extension? Pic thread. https://i.imgur.com/RZOwgFQ.jpg 
Not my pic 
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Posted: 12/22/2019 2:59:35 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64:
Just so you know, when mounted they droop down. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2019 3:31:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Meaning in relation to the barrel line? I think I can sort of see it in your pics. That would bug me but it's a cool idea. |
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Posted: 12/27/2019 4:27:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#28]
Working guns.
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Posted: 12/27/2019 5:46:02 PM EST
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2020 7:51:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: ilduce1307]
[#30]
Block I clone I have so far. It’s all Colt from the 14.5” barrel to the N1 stock and FCG. The only thing wrong so far is the lower which I have a PSA M4A1 lower on the way until I can get a Colt one. That’s also a KAC RAS, VFG, and Rail Covers with Vero Beach markings. The last pieces are the CompM2, waiting on it to arrive, Wilcox mount, and a Matech rear sight.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/6/2020 8:38:57 PM EST
[#31]
Just finished up these semi block 1 builds. I’m really happy how they turned out. Very handy rifles!
I need some better outdoor pictures. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2020 1:05:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: srob7001]
[#32]
Hey Guys,
Need a little insight before I post some pics, just want to make sure I am as correct as I can be. Going for a FN M4A1 Clone Upper - F Marked Upper - FN SOCOM 14.5" barrel w/ F marked FSP, Colt A2 flash hider, pinned with a spacer by ADCO - Colt Delta Ring Assembly - KAC RAS w/ grip and panels - FN marked BCG w/ MPF bolt - FN Charging Handle - Matech BUIS - I have a EXPS3-0 on it now, but have a 512 on another gun. Which optic is more correct? Or would purchasing a Aimpoint PRO or Comp M2 be a better choice? Lower - FN M4 military collector complete lower - this has the ambi safety on it, but it's the longer style. It also came with a 6 position receiver extension. Is that correct, or would I be better off swapping on my Colt 4 position extension? It has a waffle stock on it. No marking on the stock at all. I don't hate the waffle stock, but I much prefer my IMOD...is an IMOD acceptable for this clone project? I have a Colt side sling swivel and M16 silent sling on the way. Is there anything I am missing? Once I get it figured out I will get some pictures up. Thanks for any info provided in advance. |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 1:14:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By srob7001:
Hey Guys, Need a little insight before I post some pics, just want to make sure I am as correct as I can be. Going for a FN M4A1 Clone Upper - F Marked Upper - FN SOCOM 14.5" barrel w/ F marked FSP, Colt A2 flash hider, pinned with a spacer by ADCO - Colt Delta Ring Assembly - KAC RAS w/ grip and panels - FN marked BCG w/ MPF bolt - FN Charging Handle - Matech BUIS - I have a EXPS3-0 on it now, but have a 512 on another gun. Which optic is more correct? Or would purchasing a Aimpoint PRO or Comp M2 be a better choice? Lower - FN M4 military collector complete lower - this has the ambi safety on it, but it's the longer style. It also came with a 6 position receiver extension. Is that correct, or would I be better off swapping on my Colt 4 position extension? It has a waffle stock on it. No marking on the stock at all. I don't hate the waffle stock, but I much prefer my IMOD...is an IMOD acceptable for this clone project? I have a Colt side sling swivel and M16 silent sling on the way. Is there anything I am missing? Once I get it figured out I will get some pictures up. Thanks for any info provided in advance.  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 2:30:17 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Which unit/service do you want to clone? So far very clone approved. No one is going to see your receiver extension but the military only issues 4 position. On a FN clone, waffle pattern stock. The VLTOR IMOD is not issued for the M4 per se, however it is part of the Mk14 40mm GL. I've issued a few to M4s. On optic, Aimpoint is the preferred red dot for Big Army. Comp2 or Comp4, the PRO just uses a different caps IIRC. Some units bought EoTechs under COTS. On the lower, stick with A2 PG and standard trigger guard. Nice build again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9768_jpg-1228668.JPG CD Going more for an Army clone, so I will leave the waffle stock on it. Will probably just leave the 6 position extension as it is staked very well in 2 spots. Will probably look into the Aimpoint Comp2 or 4 or even the PRO. Need to do more research on those 3 models to see which I would prefer. Not sure what you mean with this comment..."On the lower, stick with A2 PG and standard trigger guard." It has the standard trigger guard, but not sure what A2 PG means. |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 2:50:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By srob7001: Thanks for the info CD...and all the wonderful pics you post in all the clone threads. You are so full of valuable information. I am amazed at how much you and some of the others know on the subject of all the different parts needed for these clones. Going more for an Army clone, so I will leave the waffle stock on it. Will probably just leave the 6 position extension as it is staked very well in 2 spots. Will probably look into the Aimpoint Comp2 or 4 or even the PRO. Need to do more research on those 3 models to see which I would prefer. Not sure what you mean with this comment..."On the lower, stick with A2 PG and standard trigger guard." It has the standard trigger guard, but not sure what A2 PG means. Comp M2 is my preferred for B1. Lotta guys run the PRO sights in the original QRP mount. 2 moa dot size is much better than 4 moa. |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 3:17:00 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
PG= pistol grip, A2 style. Comp M2 is my preferred for B1. Lotta guys run the PRO sights in the original QRP mount. 2 moa dot size is much better than 4 moa. FYI.....this build is kind of your fault....lol. I always saw you talking about Shark Arms and made the mistake of looking at his site. Has cost me quite a bit of money, but worth every penny. I think everything I have for this build is from Big Chris other than the F marked upper(had to use Charlies for that one...ouch) and the lower(EE). So with all the items I have I am assuming it would be more Block 1 vs Block 1.5? Or am I wrong? |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 3:24:19 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By srob7001:
So with all the items I have I am assuming it would be more Block 1 vs Block 1.5? Or am I wrong? 
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Posted: 1/11/2020 11:04:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#38]
This is going in here because the standard M4 thread got archived. Needs a PEQ and I need to switch the buffer tube out for a Colt, but other than that it is pretty much done.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 2:16:35 AM EST
[#39]
This might be one of my most favorites. So light weight and handy.
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Posted: 1/12/2020 9:36:49 AM EST
[#40]
Who's gonna clone it?
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Posted: 1/12/2020 11:03:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#41]
Quote HistorySomeone walk me through this. I assume some pic rail adapter and epoxy fuckery?
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Posted: 1/12/2020 12:13:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: stinkypol]
[#42]
Looks like a A.R.M.S #17 mount or a similar one for a older Surefire light.
 Attached File Attached FileETA: A couple of wood screws and some fitting gets a 'Old School Gangsta Grip'. |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 1:22:33 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stinkypol:
Looks like a A.R.M.S #17 mount or a similar one for a older Surefire light. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/136710/ARMS17_jpg-1231293.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/136710/TommyGrip_jpg-1231297.JPG ETA: A couple of wood screws and some fitting gets a 'Old School Gangsta Grip'. |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 2:36:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThe bottom of the magazine looks strange. That's no floorplate I am familiar with. Is it some foreign magazine?
Also, the guy is The Lord. Check out his nametape. What is the rifle to the far right, with the metal butt plate and trap door? Is that an M14? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 2:44:03 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter:
The bottom of the magazine looks strange. That's no floorplate I am familiar with. Is it some foreign magazine? Also, the guy is The Lord. Check out his nametape. What is the rifle to the far right, with the metal butt plate and trap door? Is that an M14? |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 3:31:14 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx:
I'm pretty sure that's a kalash. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx:
Originally Posted By Guntoter:
The bottom of the magazine looks strange. That's no floorplate I am familiar with. Is it some foreign magazine? Also, the guy is The Lord. Check out his nametape. What is the rifle to the far right, with the metal butt plate and trap door? Is that an M14? |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 7:37:20 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stinkypol:
This.........and a HK mag. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stinkypol:
Originally Posted By CMCctx:
Originally Posted By Guntoter:
The bottom of the magazine looks strange. That's no floorplate I am familiar with. Is it some foreign magazine? Also, the guy is The Lord. Check out his nametape. What is the rifle to the far right, with the metal butt plate and trap door? Is that an M14? |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 8:00:43 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOh dear God.....(literally, look at dudes last name)
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 8:38:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Oh dear God.....(literally, look at dudes last name) 
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Posted: 1/12/2020 10:20:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: Guntoter]
[#50]
Here is another view of Spc Christopher Lord (aka: The Lord) with his M4, but with a standard KAC VFG. Note the UID tag and Matech rear sight.
Photo that can be enlarged  Attached File |
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