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Link Posted: 7/25/2020 3:11:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

I used one so I didn't have to carry my 1 go-to mag in my back pocket or some stupid buttstock pouch. Then you'd have those Safety Sallys that would think you've got a mag in and try to rip you apart.

Last trip I also had a M9, so I could drop the M4 when walking around the FOB and didn't really need it, though I still left it on.
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Safety Sally  
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 5:11:13 PM EDT
[#2]
Hey all, any KAC BUIS knowledge keepers in here?  Have a question on a couple 97082's that I need to get on their appropriate clones.  Can anyone tell roughly what era these are from besides the right one that is confirmed new production?  I'm going to take a wild ass guess that the middle is the oldest, perhaps a good candidate for the late 90's SOPMOD, whereas the left is a good candidate for the lates 2000's mk18? Thanks in advance!

Right: New production
Middle: Not sure, however things to note are the plastic aperture insert, it's not cut off at the bottom like the other 2.  Also of note, the windage knob does not has the ball seat hole drilled all the way through.  Full length threaded screw and gray clamp.
Left: Not sure.





Link Posted: 7/25/2020 6:02:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

Well, early birthday present secured

They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

You first.

I like that idea.

I just like the old school shit. The RAS compatibility definitely has a lure.

Well, early birthday present secured

They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.


Definitely post up some close up pics once you get it.  I’m really tempted to snag one.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 6:11:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey all, any KAC BUIS knowledge keepers in here?  Have a question on a couple 97082's that I need to get on their appropriate clones.  Can anyone tell roughly what era these are from besides the right one that is confirmed new production?  I'm going to take a wild ass guess that the middle is the oldest, perhaps a good candidate for the late 90's SOPMOD, whereas the left is a good candidate for the lates 2000's mk18? Thanks in advance!

Right: New production
Middle: Not sure, however things to note are the plastic aperture insert, it's not cut off at the bottom like the other 2.  Also of note, the windage knob does not has the ball seat hole drilled all the way through.  Full length threaded screw and gray clamp.
Left: Not sure.

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The BUIS pages from ST 23-31-1

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Two more photos will follow this post.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 7:55:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

Safety Sally  
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

I used one so I didn't have to carry my 1 go-to mag in my back pocket or some stupid buttstock pouch. Then you'd have those Safety Sallys that would think you've got a mag in and try to rip you apart.

Last trip I also had a M9, so I could drop the M4 when walking around the FOB and didn't really need it, though I still left it on.

Safety Sally  

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 7:59:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

I used one so I didn't have to carry my 1 go-to mag in my back pocket or some stupid buttstock pouch. Then you'd have those Safety Sallys that would think you've got a mag in and try to rip you apart.

Last trip I also had a M9, so I could drop the M4 when walking around the FOB and didn't really need it, though I still left it on.

Safety Sally  

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.

Takes all sorts man. I guess?
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 8:20:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.
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Go take a shower filthy animal!
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 8:29:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

Takes all sorts man. I guess?
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

I used one so I didn't have to carry my 1 go-to mag in my back pocket or some stupid buttstock pouch. Then you'd have those Safety Sallys that would think you've got a mag in and try to rip you apart.

Last trip I also had a M9, so I could drop the M4 when walking around the FOB and didn't really need it, though I still left it on.

Safety Sally  

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.

Takes all sorts man. I guess?

Don't get me started.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 8:30:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

Go take a shower filthy animal!
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

These were usually also the same people that would deny you entry to chow hall because you had a dirty uniform and/or weapon but didn't take into account that you don't live on this FOB and you've been out in the middle of the fucking desert for a few weeks.

Go take a shower filthy animal!

Link Posted: 7/25/2020 11:57:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2020 1:46:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Guntoter:

Why is the reflex sight dot put 8 clicks below the tip of the front sight, after the BUIS is sighted in?  Wouldn't that cause the weapon to shoot high?
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See NOTE at the bottom of page 10-6. Does that give you a 5-15m zero for the reflex sight?
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 10:18:02 AM EDT
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Alright, I'm stuck.

I found another Force Recon video that has a rifle that I could do as well.

So, my main question: XPS 3.0 vs Comp M4?

Link Posted: 7/26/2020 11:19:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By We_The_People:
Alright, I'm stuck.

I found another Force Recon video that has a rifle that I could do as well.

So, my main question: XPS 3.0 vs Comp M4?

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Thats what I like about this build. Such a variety of optics. Aimpoint T series, M2,3,4  ACOG, EXPS3


https://youtu.be/6s_NnQ_8_Ok
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 12:11:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uniform64:


Thats what I like about this build. Such a variety of optics. Aimpoint T series, M2,3,4  ACOG, EXPS3


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I vote for the ACOG. That's what I'm rolling with.
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 11:41:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey all, any KAC BUIS knowledge keepers in here?  Have a question on a couple 97082's that I need to get on their appropriate clones.  Can anyone tell roughly what era these are from besides the right one that is confirmed new production?  I'm going to take a wild ass guess that the middle is the oldest, perhaps a good candidate for the late 90's SOPMOD, whereas the left is a good candidate for the lates 2000's mk18? Thanks in advance!

Right: New production
Middle: Not sure, however things to note are the plastic aperture insert, it's not cut off at the bottom like the other 2.  Also of note, the windage knob does not has the ball seat hole drilled all the way through.  Full length threaded screw and gray clamp.
Left: Not sure.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50152614616_3bd5626feb_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50152614661_2e4c5af1ab_c.jpg

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@DStepec

I would guess the middle one is the oldest.
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 1:14:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:


@DStepec

I would guess the middle one is the oldest.
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Agreed! I tossed that one (middle) on the SOPMOD to replace the new production (right) that was sitting on it.

Minuteman you’re a rock star
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 3:45:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

I vote for the ACOG. That's what I'm rolling with.
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Agreed, ACOG's rock!
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 3:51:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:

Minuteman you’re a rock star
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Why do you say that? You should probably improve your evaluation criteria if you came to that conclusion.
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 3:55:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fordtough25:


Agreed, ACOG's rock!
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I didn't think I'd like them as much as I do, but for general use, it's hard to beat them.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 9:57:35 AM EDT
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- PSA M4A1 lower
- PSA 16" M4 kit
- Barrel chopped to 14.7", reprofiled and reparkerized
- Flash hider pinned and welded
- Colt side sling swivel
- Colt M4 stock
- KAC RAS with SAS bottom rail
- KAC VFG
- Matech BUIS
- QRP Aimpoint mount
- OKAY mag
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 10:18:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By shadeone:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2128/7LyzNP.jpg

- PSA M4A1 lower
- PSA 16" M4 kit
- Barrel chopped to 14.7", reprofiled and reparkerized
- Flash hider pinned and welded
- Colt side sling swivel
- Colt M4 stock
- KAC RAS with SAS bottom rail
- KAC VFG
- Matech BUIS
- QRP Aimpoint mount
- OKAY mag
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Thats slick! New grip and selector and it would be spot on.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 10:23:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By shadeone:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2128/7LyzNP.jpg

- PSA M4A1 lower
- PSA 16" M4 kit
- Barrel chopped to 14.7", reprofiled and reparkerized
- Flash hider pinned and welded
- Colt side sling swivel
- Colt M4 stock
- KAC RAS with SAS bottom rail
- KAC VFG
- Matech BUIS
- QRP Aimpoint mount
- OKAY mag
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She nasty! Good stuff.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 10:26:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

Thats slick! New grip and selector and it would be spot on.
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Colt ambi selector coming soon...

Educate me on the grip?
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 10:37:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By shadeone:


Colt ambi selector coming soon...

Educate me on the grip?
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Its easy to pick out a commercial a2 grip from a mile away. The colt/fn and other contract a2 grips will be fatter and won't have the noticeable line at the top where the angle cuts off. The hotdog selector is also easy to spot. Minor things, yea but still noticeable.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 11:20:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

Its easy to pick out a commercial a2 grip from a mile away. The colt/fn and other contract a2 grips will be fatter and won't have the noticeable line at the top where the angle cuts off. The hotdog selector is also easy to spot. Minor things, yea but still noticeable.
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What has been seen cannot be unseen. Luckily I only have one incorrect grip, but now it's bugging the shit out of me. Got an Ergo arriving Friday for another lower so I will swap it then. Thanks for ruining my Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and half of Friday until mail runs.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:07:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

What has been seen cannot be unseen. Luckily I only have one incorrect grip, but now it's bugging the shit out of me. Got an Ergo arriving Friday for another lower so I will swap it then. Thanks for ruining my Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and half of Friday until mail runs.
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lol! My bad.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:24:02 PM EDT
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Yeah, your bad. lol :)
I've just wasted the past 30 minutes at work searching for a source for verified "fat" Colt takeoff A2 grips... Got any leads?
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:27:07 PM EDT
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lol! My bad.
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No worries, I've only reloaded tracking 556 times to see if it is arriving early. Still no shipping info on the Cadex, so that's my biggest annoyance at the moment.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:31:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shadeone:
Yeah, your bad. lol :)
I've just wasted the past 30 minutes at work searching for a source for verified "fat" Colt takeoff A2 grips... Got any leads?
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@shadeone https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/FN-A2-grip-Colt-A1-stock-PSA-A2-stock-body-Magpul-MOE-Enidine-Buffer-Buffer-tube/119-2025134/

It's FN, though.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:33:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shadeone:
Yeah, your bad. lol :)
I've just wasted the past 30 minutes at work searching for a source for verified "fat" Colt takeoff A2 grips... Got any leads?
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Do a search for "F marked a2 grip" or search EE, tacswap, etc.
Lot of places are out of stock right now though.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:41:13 PM EDT
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That one is good! More then I would want to pay, but everything is double priced right now.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:41:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:58:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

No worries, I've only reloaded tracking 556 times to see if it is arriving early. Still no shipping info on the Cadex, so that's my biggest annoyance at the moment.
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did you pull the trigger on the extension?? LEGIT
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 1:29:47 PM EDT
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did you pull the trigger on the extension?? LEGIT
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I was still mulling it over that day when my mom called and asked what I wanted for my birthday. No more thought was necessary!
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 1:57:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/Colt-F-marked-A2-pistol-grips-12-00/25-2023486/

Found a better deal and these are Colt
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But not that chalky gray goodness.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 1:59:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

But not that chalky gray goodness.
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Its okay, the spray paint covers that.
I've actually never had an M4 or M4A1 with the gray looking grips.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 2:11:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

Its okay, the spray paint covers that.
I've actually never had an M4 or M4A1 with the gray looking grips.
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

But not that chalky gray goodness.

Its okay, the spray paint covers that.
I've actually never had an M4 or M4A1 with the gray looking grips.

They look the same with some CLP on them.


Or paint, as you said. They do have a different "feel" to them though.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 4:59:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/Colt-F-marked-A2-pistol-grips-12-00/25-2023486/

Found a better deal and these are Colt
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sweet just got me 2. one for the block 1 and probably paint one fde for the block 2
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 5:13:53 PM EDT
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sweet just got me 2. one for the block 1 and probably paint one fde for the block 2
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You can get fde ones from kac. If they're in stock...
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 7:32:52 PM EDT
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You can get fde ones from kac. If they're in stock...
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I've been searching on and off for one for a UCWRG FDE set that I have. I'll probably end up using the UCWRG/B5 grip I got with it.
Link Posted: 7/31/2020 12:43:47 AM EDT
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My M4A1 clone. Colt M4A1 marked lower with Larue trigger and B5 SOPMOD stock, complete Colt upper with 14.5" SOCOM barrel with pin and weld extended FH, KAC RAS with KAC VG and KAC rail covers, KAC BUIS, Trijicon TA31F, and Surefire scout light with tape switch inner tubed to VG.
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Link Posted: 7/31/2020 10:25:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TrucksAndGuns:
My M4A1 clone. Colt M4A1 marked lower with Larue trigger and B5 SOPMOD stock, complete Colt upper with 14.5" SOCOM barrel with pin and weld extended FH, KAC RAS with KAC VG and KAC rail covers, KAC BUIS, Trijicon TA31F, and Surefire scout light with tape switch inner tubed to VG.
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Like
Link Posted: 7/31/2020 12:46:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TrucksAndGuns:
My M4A1 clone. Colt M4A1 marked lower with Larue trigger and B5 SOPMOD stock, complete Colt upper with 14.5" SOCOM barrel with pin and weld extended FH, KAC RAS with KAC VG and KAC rail covers, KAC BUIS, Trijicon TA31F, and Surefire scout light with tape switch inner tubed to VG.
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My main grab and use carbine is setup identical to yours minus a the lowers markings, well done!
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[Last Edit: CMCctx] [#46]
Took the MaTech off and put a Daniel Defense fixed rear on. Have those ever been seen fielded? I'm going to run an Aimpoint and move the ACOG to another rifle. I like folding rears on magnified optics but fixed with red dots. Either way, I think it will look slick when the Cadex gets here.
Link Posted: 8/5/2020 10:47:16 AM EDT
[#47]
Alright, I've now got myself a decision to make.

I've picked up a number of handguards for really good deals, but I definitely can't keep them all.

I currently have, unmounted:
-KAC RAS w/ Ergo Extension
-KAC RAS 2
-KAC MRE

My game plan was to do the force recon clone, but I kind of made my bed by just buying an NIB Aimpoint Pro for a really good deal.

So, I'm now thinking I'll end up in the GWOT thread, but I'm not sure which rail I should keep of the three. It will choose the direction I go.
Link Posted: 8/5/2020 10:58:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By We_The_People:
Alright, I've now got myself a decision to make.

I've picked up a number of handguards for really good deals, but I definitely can't keep them all.

I currently have, unmounted:
-KAC RAS w/ Ergo Extension
-KAC RAS 2
-KAC MRE

My game plan was to do the force recon clone, but I kind of made my bed by just buying an NIB Aimpoint Pro for a really good deal.

So, I'm now thinking I'll end up in the GWOT thread, but I'm not sure which rail I should keep of the three. It will choose the direction I go.
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First of all, if MRE is an answer choice, that's the right answer. Second, get you an ARMS riser and slap that Aimpoint in there and you'll be a GWOT Lord. Keep the rest for force recon down the road.

Edit: you said you can't keep them all. Offload the RAS w/ Ergo. Those aren't terribly hard to find if you ever change your mind.
Link Posted: 8/7/2020 12:46:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By We_The_People:
Alright, I've now got myself a decision to make.

I've picked up a number of handguards for really good deals, but I definitely can't keep them all.

I currently have, unmounted:
-KAC RAS w/ Ergo Extension
-KAC RAS 2
-KAC MRE

My game plan was to do the force recon clone, but I kind of made my bed by just buying an NIB Aimpoint Pro for a really good deal.

So, I'm now thinking I'll end up in the GWOT thread, but I'm not sure which rail I should keep of the three. It will choose the direction I go.
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I was just about to let people know in here that someone is selling a RAS with Ergo extension on the EE  lol
Link Posted: 8/7/2020 12:55:13 PM EDT
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I was just about to let people know in here that someone is selling a RAS with Ergo extension on the EE  lol
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It's there if anyone wants it!

I'm moving forward with the MRE; although I got it for a killer price, I need to get a couple more things for this build.
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