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Posted: 8/10/2020 11:01:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: I want to get a Pelican case for the rifle once it's finished. Does anyone know if there's enough room in a 1700 for an assembled CQBR Block II along with an M4A1 Block II upper? When we say 10.3" we mean it  https://i.imgur.com/mz9UpDp.jpg Plenty of room  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 11:29:42 AM EDT
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The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Tan LMTs were unit purchases.
Y'all need to stop putting random baby shit colored things on your clone because you think it looks better. It doesn't and your taste sucks. Black stock/grip for a B2 has always been and always will be max aesthetic. If you need more color in your life because you're bored and spend more time staring at your gun than shooting it, rattle can is the answer you seek. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 11:53:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Tan LMTs were unit purchases. Y'all need to stop putting random baby shit colored things on your clone because you think it looks better. It doesn't and your taste sucks. Black stock/grip for a B2 has always been and always will be max aesthetic. If you need more color in your life because you're bored and spend more time staring at your gun than shooting it, rattle can is the answer you seek.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 12:20:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Tan LMTs were unit purchases. Y'all need to stop putting random baby shit colored things on your clone because you think it looks better. It doesn't and your taste sucks. Black stock/grip for a B2 has always been and always will be max aesthetic. If you need more color in your life because you're bored and spend more time staring at your gun than shooting it, rattle can is the answer you seek. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/nod-3.gif Keep it up and I'll go back to building mine on cerakoted receivers 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 1:24:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Keep it up and I'll go back to building mine on cerakoted receivers Lol please god, don’t do that... 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 1:31:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Tan LMTs were unit purchases. Y'all need to stop putting random baby shit colored things on your clone because you think it looks better. It doesn't and your taste sucks. Black stock/grip for a B2 has always been and always will be max aesthetic. If you need more color in your life because you're bored and spend more time staring at your gun than shooting it, rattle can is the answer you seek. Amen! |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 1:31:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Plenty of room https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2256_jpg-1540228.JPG CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: I want to get a Pelican case for the rifle once it's finished. Does anyone know if there's enough room in a 1700 for an assembled CQBR Block II along with an M4A1 Block II upper? When we say 10.3" we mean it https://i.imgur.com/mz9UpDp.jpg Plenty of room https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2256_jpg-1540228.JPG CD  Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Jokes aside, I've been following this thread for at least 3-4 years and I've always seen references to either company's gen 1 stocks being correct, with the black ones going on MK18s and tan or coyote going on the Blocks I & II 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 1:55:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Jokes aside, I've been following this thread for at least 3-4 years and I've always seen references to either company's gen 1 stocks being correct, with the black ones going on MK18s and tan or coyote going on the Blocks I & II That’s because there’s a bunch of dudes treating this as a queer eye for the straight rifle thread instead of a clone thread. The only sopmod stock that is “correct” is a black Gen 1 pattern. Both B5 and LMT were suppliers that fulfilled the contract. They’re correct for SOPMOD and the stock didn’t change with Block II. The tan Gen 1 LMTs are generally accepted because they were unit purchases that show up (although rarely) on ITW photos from GWOT era. I’m sure there’s a “50 shades of brown shit on your rifle picture and discussion thread” somewhere on this forum, but this ain’t it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:08:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: That’s because there’s a bunch of dudes treating this as a queer eye for the straight rifle thread instead of a clone thread. The only sopmod stock that is “correct” is a black Gen 1 pattern. Both B5 and LMT were suppliers that fulfilled the contract. They’re correct for SOPMOD and the stock didn’t change with Block II. The tan Gen 1 LMTs are generally accepted because they were unit purchases that show up (although rarely) on ITW photos from GWOT era. I’m sure there’s a “50 shades of brown shit on your rifle picture and discussion thread” somewhere on this forum, but this ain’t it. @tinycrumb please add 10.3,4,5 to the title. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:12:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#10]
Oh, boy. Poopstocks replace gas ports as the latest in clone drama heats up? Answers at 5.
Personally not a big fan of poop A2 grips and poopstocks... but there has always been some flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice. If the forbidden flavor of the poopy calls to you, go for it. I don't give a fuck, there are worse things.  EAT DA POO POO ETA: Pasta Sempa knows all about the forbidden taste of the poo poo. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:13:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:14:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Can I get a #POOPMOD Pelican case instead of tan
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:17:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: @tinycrumb please add 10.3,4,5 to the title. Keep the poors out. Only 10.3 and 10.4. None of that "bUt LMT pOSsiBly SuPpliED uPpERS" poor person talk. edit: we've reached new levels of petty. I love it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Keep the poors out. Only 10.3 and 10.4. None of that "bUt LMT pOSsiBly SuPpliED uPpERS" poor person talk. edit: we've reached new levels of petty. I love it. That was the joke 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:29:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: That was the joke |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:32:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOne of my fav photos. Gotta love the Corps using that shitty rmr. Can anyone confirm if that's a scalar works mount? It's hard to tell, but I feel like I can see through the mount.
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: One of my fav photos. Gotta live the Corps using that shitty rmr. Can anyone confirm if that's a scalar works mount? It's hard to tell, but I feel like I can see through the mount. Looks like an SLR Mount to me. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:40:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Looks like an SLR Mount to me. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:44:37 PM EDT
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I approve of this thread title change, LOL
Poop stocks are exactly that - poop. they are too tight on the tube, and they look like... well poop. I'm glad we are laying the hammer down on getting the poop out of this thread. it's LMT or bust! |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 2:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: I approve of this thread title change, LOL Poop stocks are exactly that - poop. they are too tight on the tube, and they look like... well poop. I'm glad we are laying the hammer down on getting the poop out of this thread. it's LMT or bust! I ran a B5 Sopmod in black for 5 years overseas on an Colt M4A1 and a Colt Mk18. No problems with fitment on the stock 4 position tube. The Coyote B5 I have fits those weapons exactly the same. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: I approve of this thread title change, LOL Poop stocks are exactly that - poop. they are too tight on the tube, and they look like... well poop. I'm glad we are laying the hammer down on getting the poop out of this thread. it's LMT or bust! Eh, when it comes to the B5s, I've found the poopers actually fit much better than the black contract B5s. The one pooper I have fits just like my LMTs, but the black B5 I've got is way tight. The finish/quality is better on the pooper as well. I prefer LMT, but if we're talking purely fit/finish on Gen 1 B5s, the pooper is better IME. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:05:28 PM EDT
[#23]
For give me clone god for I have sinned. I have a b5 gen 1 poop stock... AND A B5 CAR
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:07:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/4b0ujg_jpg-1540586.JPG We've already said b5 gen 1 black is kosher... |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: We've already said b5 gen 1 black is kosher... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/4b0ujg_jpg-1540586.JPG We've already said b5 gen 1 black is kosher...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:31:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/b3cfc7961dd238f23c55654a755b69e8_jpg-1540595.JPG I cant tell anymore 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:46:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soopreme]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Eh, when it comes to the B5s, I've found the poopers actually fit much better than the black contract B5s. The one pooper I have fits just like my LMTs, but the black B5 I've got is way tight. The finish/quality is better on the pooper as well. I prefer LMT, but if we're talking purely fit/finish on Gen 1 B5s, the pooper is better IME. I agree. I’ve had 2 black b5 G1 contract stocks and they both were super tight. I even shaved one down and it’s still on the snug side. So wait. Gen 2 lmt taupe isn’t correct? Well fuck |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 3:47:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: The Coyote B5s are not correct. Never have been. Tan LMTs were unit purchases. Y'all need to stop putting random baby shit colored things on your clone because you think it looks better. It doesn't and your taste sucks. Black stock/grip for a B2 has always been and always will be max aesthetic. If you need more color in your life because you're bored and spend more time staring at your gun than shooting it, rattle can is the answer you seek.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:05:25 PM EDT
[#30]
All this f'ing around and the BLACK B5 Gen 1's are now out of stock again at Primary Arms.
They still have Coyote Brown in stock... 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:06:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:07:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
[#32]
I love tiny and the title change
And at least they switched the conversation up in here, i remember when it was endless talk of suppressor baffles for a month or so. 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:15:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: I want to get a Pelican case for the rifle once it's finished. Does anyone know if there's enough room in a 1700 for an assembled CQBR Block II along with an M4A1 Block II upper? When we say 10.3" we mean it https://i.imgur.com/mz9UpDp.jpg Dumb question, but is the shoulder in the same spot and the only difference the length of the threaded portion? |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:19:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zakk_Wylde_470]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By von_landstuhl: Dumb question, but is the shoulder in the same spot and the only difference the length of the threaded portion? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By von_landstuhl: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: I want to get a Pelican case for the rifle once it's finished. Does anyone know if there's enough room in a 1700 for an assembled CQBR Block II along with an M4A1 Block II upper? When we say 10.3" we mean it https://i.imgur.com/mz9UpDp.jpg Dumb question, but is the shoulder in the same spot and the only difference the length of the threaded portion? Nope, neither the overall length nor shoulder on the "dead-on, balls-accurate" ACI barrel were correct.  If I remember tonight I'll take a similar picture with the DD barrel I'm using instead. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:24:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Is my LMT okay?
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:40:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: I love tiny and the title change And at least they switched the conversation up in here, i remember when it was endless talk of suppressor baffles for a month or so. https://i.postimg.cc/LsdkDRr1/0-F3-F5-B63-6-B90-49-C4-8-C6-C-BD4-C415-A1598.jpg Whats wrong with talking about suppressor baffles 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:43:09 PM EDT
[#37]
You get a shit color stock, you get a shit color stock!
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: https://i.postimg.cc/6qcstMN9/A98-DFE19-C0-F9-400-E-8-CFC-AE8-FAF0-AEA64.jpg Nevermind the #POOPMOD, peep that Raptor charging handle
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Posted: 8/10/2020 4:52:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Nevermind the #POOPMOD, peep that Raptor charging handle Ahhh yeah, when those shitty things hit peak popularity.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:27:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye: Is my LMT okay? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260726/20200810_162343-1540688.jpg Of course. Tan LMTs have been seen ITW on some of the earliest Block II. They were unit purchases and IIRC they've only been seen on Army guns. I don't recall seeing any on Navy or Raider ones. ETA: They're also relatively rare and used to command a premium price, not sure if that's still the case. I remember selling on back in the day for $450. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:32:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Ahhh yeah, when those shitty things hit peak popularity. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/4AD2B200-0DFD-4BF3-B584-4C273277BC44_jpe-1540717.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Nevermind the #POOPMOD, peep that Raptor charging handle Ahhh yeah, when those shitty things hit peak popularity. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/4AD2B200-0DFD-4BF3-B584-4C273277BC44_jpe-1540717.JPG I really love my Raptor, so this was a tough pill to swallow 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:37:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Of course. Tan LMTs have been seen ITW on some of the earliest Block II. They were unit purchases and IIRC they've only been seen on Army guns. I don't recall seeing any on Navy or Raider ones. ETA: They're also relatively rare and used to command a premium price, not sure if that's still the case. I remember selling on back in the day for $450. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Oh, boy. Poopstocks replace gas ports as the latest in clone drama heats up? Answers at 5. Personally not a big fan of poop A2 grips and poopstocks... but there has always been some flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice. If the forbidden flavor of the poopy calls to you, go for it. I don't give a fuck, there are worse things. It's not drama, it's just people treating this as a dress up doll thread instead of a clone thread. There's flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice because it's fairly common to see ITW rifles where an operator has swapped out his issued shit for something that he finds more comfortable. The hypothetical problem with shit colored B5 stocks and A2 grips is that, (this will blow your mind), they work just like the black ones. So the theory is that Joe Operator loved his stock and grip but just couldn't stand the color so went out and spent his hard earned deployment pay on swapping out the color. I'm sure it's happened once or twice but we haven't seen evidence that it's a common thing … and for pretty obvious reasons. The gist of it is that it's the same type of attitude of "inspired". "My personal taste is so much better than issued kit so I'm going to dump it in the clone thread and look for validation." That's not really what the point of this thread is. If someone wants to go start a thread called "My personal take on making govt. issued rifles look better" then by all means… |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: They have been seen in use w/ MARSOC Pics? Buddy of mine asked if they had a few years ago and I failed to find him an example. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:43:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Pics? Buddy of mine asked if they had a few years ago and I failed to find him an example.  Also since we are talking about SOPMODs, heres a gen2 w/ MARSOC that was probably an individual purchase since there is also a gen 1 in the case. 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:47:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zakk_Wylde_470]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: It's not drama, it's just people treating this as a dress up doll thread instead of a clone thread. There's flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice because it's fairly common to see ITW rifles where an operator has swapped out his issued shit for something that he finds more comfortable. The hypothetical problem with shit colored B5 stocks and A2 grips is that, (this will blow your mind), they work just like the black ones. So the theory is that Joe Operator loved his stock and grip but just couldn't stand the color so went out and spent his hard earned deployment pay on swapping out the color. I'm sure it's happened once or twice but we haven't seen evidence that it's a common thing … and for pretty obvious reasons. The gist of it is that it's the same type of attitude of "inspired". "My personal taste is so much better than issued kit so I'm going to dump it in the clone thread and look for validation." That's not really what the point of this thread is. If someone wants to go start a thread called "My personal take on making govt. issued rifles look better" then by all means… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By krdt: Oh, boy. Poopstocks replace gas ports as the latest in clone drama heats up? Answers at 5. Personally not a big fan of poop A2 grips and poopstocks... but there has always been some flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice. If the forbidden flavor of the poopy calls to you, go for it. I don't give a fuck, there are worse things. It's not drama, it's just people treating this as a dress up doll thread instead of a clone thread. There's flexibility when it comes to stock/grip choice because it's fairly common to see ITW rifles where an operator has swapped out his issued shit for something that he finds more comfortable. The hypothetical problem with shit colored B5 stocks and A2 grips is that, (this will blow your mind), they work just like the black ones. So the theory is that Joe Operator loved his stock and grip but just couldn't stand the color so went out and spent his hard earned deployment pay on swapping out the color. I'm sure it's happened once or twice but we haven't seen evidence that it's a common thing … and for pretty obvious reasons. The gist of it is that it's the same type of attitude of "inspired". "My personal taste is so much better than issued kit so I'm going to dump it in the clone thread and look for validation." That's not really what the point of this thread is. If someone wants to go start a thread called "My personal take on making govt. issued rifles look better" then by all means… You got me on the taupe A2 but I legitimately thought all the Gen 1 SOPMODs variants were kosher. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 5:50:47 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: You got me on the taupe A2 but I legitimately thought all the Gen 1 SOPMODs variants were kosher. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 6:16:45 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://i.imgur.com/2vKwaM5.jpg Something funny with that stock. It's clearly rattle canned at some point. The body of it looks like it could be tan where the rattle can is wearing off. But the butt pad is clearly black. Also looks like it might be a Gen 2. If that's the only single piece of evidence we have I'd still side on them not being bought by marsoc. |
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Posted: 8/10/2020 6:26:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Something funny with that stock. It's clearly rattle canned at some point. The body of it looks like it could be tan where the rattle can is wearing off. But the butt pad is clearly black. Also looks like it might be a Gen 2. If that's the only single piece of evidence we have I'd still side on them not being bought by marsoc. 
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Posted: 8/10/2020 6:36:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Definitely rattle canned but also definitely a Gen 1. It does have a black butt pad but that could be chalked up to losing the original and then getting it replaced by a black one. I'm 95% sure that it is a tan stock. However, I will raise you... look right above the 203 gunner. https://i.imgur.com/5ZKOrIn.jpg That looks rattle canned to me as well. Looks like it’s wearing off on the top. I dunno tho, could be… |
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